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Thur

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Mar 15, 2006, 6:22:08 AM3/15/06
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For those who may be interested on what kind of art
decorated high status buildings such as churches in
the "Dark Ages", this rare find is worthy of note.
http://arts.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,1713978,00.html

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Thur


Bill

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Mar 15, 2006, 2:25:37 PM3/15/06
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"Thur" <no-per...@z.com> wrote in message
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The Brits are constantly coming across these religious artifacts and
constantly reacting with surprise. Why ? In fact the Church of England
began with Henry VIII and one of the worst cultural atrocities in world
history ! Destruction of the paintings, the carvings and the sculptures,
along with the monasteries, churches and convents which contained them was
an act of vicious cultural aggression against the world's religious
heritage. This "Goodness gracious. Look what we found". attitude is
ludicrous and typical of a nation that simply cannot face the shabby and
contemptible history upon which their official state religion was based.

Regards, Bill


Thur

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Mar 15, 2006, 2:44:25 PM3/15/06
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"Bill" <bm...@XpaM.net> wrote in message
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I wanted to avoid a discussion on history in general, and
for this reason I had delayed posting.
Students of the history of art would be interested in a period
which has very little left, for the reasons you refer to and
simply age, and there was no culture of making things in
materials like stone, so buildings disappeared and most
of it's contents decayed too.
By the way, although Henry 8th did cause some of the damage
you refer to, it was Cromwell and Puritanism which proudly
destroyed all that was left, which was plenty.

> The Brits are constantly coming across these religious artifacts
Constantly? I wish.

>...attitude is


> ludicrous and typical of a nation that simply cannot face the
> shabby and contemptible history upon which their official
> state religion was based.

Come off it Bill. This remark may be how you feel, but isn't
based upon knowledge of we Brits.

How would you feel if I referred to some of USA's shabby
history and made such generalisations about it's citizens?
In Britain we have lots of history, and are a little more relaxed
about it than you seem to be.

Let's stick to art in this newsgroup, eh?
We'll all get along better and not bore the pants off everyone
else.
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Thur


Erik A. Mattila

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Mar 15, 2006, 7:58:42 PM3/15/06
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Don't fret, Thur. Bill would find fault with a truffle if a liberal pig
had rooted it out. Best to leave him to his misery.

I thought the find was very interesting. I remember studying this
period in grad school, and the prof was constantly complaining about the
terrible lack of samples.

andy gee

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Mar 16, 2006, 10:05:20 AM3/16/06
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"Thur" <no-per...@z.com> wrote in
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> Subject: Re: New light on AngloSaxon period art
> From: "Thur" <no-per...@z.com>
> Newsgroups: rec.arts.fine


>
>
> "Bill" <bm...@XpaM.net> wrote in message
> news:44186acf$0$3679$470e...@news.pa.net...

> By the way, although Henry 8th did cause some of the damage
> you refer to, it was Cromwell and Puritanism which proudly
> destroyed all that was left, which was plenty.
>> The Brits are constantly coming across these religious artifacts
> Constantly? I wish.
>
>>...attitude is
>> ludicrous and typical of a nation that simply cannot face the
>> shabby and contemptible history upon which their official
>> state religion was based.


Just out of curiousity, is there a record of Celtic, Gaelic, Angle,
Jute, Pict etc art destroyed to make way for the previous established
church? Any surviving stuff?

--ag

Thur

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Mar 16, 2006, 10:54:33 AM3/16/06
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"andy gee" <and...@GETRIDOFTHISinterport.net> wrote in message
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Most of what is left of this period has been found in graves, and
is of metal. History books of the ages referred to have very little
else to rely on save for a couple of very dodgy manuscripts.
Destruction in the time of Cromwell is best recorded by the
journals of William Dowsing in East Anglia.
Library of Congress call number: BR757 .J68 2001
A few wall paintings and decorations have been uncovered from
whitewash put on by Puritans, but I can't think of an object similar
to the Saxon angel.
There are some examples of Medieval decoration,
pre-Henry8 and post 1066, which have given historians
a clue to what churches may have looked like.
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Thur


Andy Gee

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Mar 16, 2006, 8:29:22 PM3/16/06
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"Thur" <no-per...@z.com> wrote in news:ZSfSf.57$zr.19@newsfe7-
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> Destruction in the time of Cromwell is best recorded by the
> journals of William Dowsing in East Anglia.
>

Oh, sorry, I was thinking more 5th or 6th century, destruction by the first
established church in the area.

Thanks for the reply --

--ag

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