Web site footprint? Protecting art work on line.
Bob & Dale Ford
dangerous to display the art in cyberspace as it could be
misappropriated, and sold in cyberspace by some one other then me. This
person mentioned I should add a footprint to the image so that it could
not be stolen and resold. Since I am a painter not a computer wizard I
would like to ask does this problem and solution ring any bells for any
one? How do you protect your art work from being stolen on line?
Thanks
Dale
Peter H.M. Brooks
Bob & Dale Ford <bdf...@mb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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People can always 'steal' an image - even if they simply see it in a
gallery.
--
"Death, like eating roast chicken or going to war, is an area in which
no absolutely kind or wholesome things happen." Derek Roskell BMJ
10/02/2001
Bob & Dale Ford
I have been ripped off many times before, so much so that I stopped showing.
But really what good is that????
Thanks for the advice I will be sure to follow it.
Dale
Billie Yuss
>
>True......
>I have been ripped off many times before, so much so that I stopped showing.
>But really what good is that????
>Thanks for the advice I will be sure to follow it.
>Dale
I'm amazed! Can you explain just how you
have been "ripped off?" I read what you
say to mean that someone has done something
with images you've previously posted on the
internet? If you're talking about some other
form of "rip off," won't you please explain
for the benefit of others who might be saved
a similar experience.
I can't imagine anyone replicating anything
downloaded from the internet, but then
beginners are often looking for art work that
they can mimick. I personally would be flattered
to know someone thought so much of one of
my works. It might infringe my copyright, but
since I am not "world famous" it would flatter
rather than bother me. Since selling what I
produce is always problematic, I can't imagine
anyone else being successful selling copies
of my work. If they were, I'd have to say "More
power to them!" Maybe they'd agree to be my agent!!
William Barkin
-Bill
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William Barkin - Fine Artist
Online Portfolio
http://www.bcn.net/~wbarkin
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Bob & Dale Ford
Thanks
William Barkin
water mark...Adobe Photoshop has the ability to generate a user defined
watermark in version 5.0 and up, I'm not sure about previous versions.
-Bill
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William Barkin - Fine Artist
Online Portfolio
http://www.bcn.net/~wbarkin
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Dale
Bob & Dale Ford
would be interested. This was a while ago (ten years), my work was displayed as
part of a public exhibition at a University (or if you are American, College). I
was still in process of getting a BFA. There was a art publisher hanging around
trying to buy art from various artists. Needless to say my series of work was
stolen right off the walls of the gallery. When I went to pick up my work the
professors and other students who were picking up their work thought some one else
must have picked it up for me. Why would any one steal a student's work? Wasn't
the case and after a couple of other works of art ( by more important people then
me) went missing from the university and this guy got banned ( So I was told 3rd
hand no one actually dealt with my stuff being gone per say, I was not important.
But this guy who always seemed to be lurking around, I never saw again.) So yes I
did take it as flattery at the time. I was upset, but since they were lino cuts
and I still had the plates, and two more prints of each I could just make another
series if I wanted too. ( these were all 1/3).
By the time I got to the drying racks I found out the other prints were stolen.
And the 2 of the plates as well. One of the plates I had in another location so I
still had that one at least. But they were a series and the three needed to be
together. So now I was upset and the flattery novelty wore off pretty quickly.
I had forgotten all about it when 5 years ago a small group of students after
class, told me they really liked my "stuff". Unfortunately they had never seen my
stuff. So I questioned them and they described what they had seen. I still thought
they were pulling my leg until a teacher gave me the same story. So I questioned
the kids (if you call 18 kids;-)) It appears a public gallery had exhibited this
exact series of prints, still with my name on them as well as a portrait by me.
When I contacted the gallery, a year later because that is when I found out, they
informed me that all their records were messed up and the director and staff had
been replaced within the last year, (small gallery). They couldn't tell me a
thing, so I dropped it.
Very strange, but true. I can't figure it out this stuff still has my signature on
it. The kids thought my work had won a cash prize, but weren't sure. Like I said
it was a year later and they had more important things to remember. And every once
in a blue moon some one will say that they saw my stuff in an exhibit some where.
I guess the lesson would be be more careful with your art work, and your plates.
And look your studio doors when you aren't around.
Before that, I studied graphic design and found some people would steal my ideas.
Copying what they saw me working on. Drove me nuts because how do you prove it was
your idea first? In one case in particular when I complained the Prof. thought
perhaps it was me who had stolen the ideas. Decided I didn't want to work in an
industry like that so I changed carreer paths.
Dale
John Mashler
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Dale, I have heard other artists on art lists say that the best way to avoid
this is to make the resolution of the image less (whatever that means - I don't
know a thing about making a website)
Good luck
John
Bob & Dale Ford
Billie Yuss
>
>Actually I should have been more specific
Well, that surely was an interesting story.
I've heard of thefts in art school while I
was attending too. Oftentimes it was some
other student who needed stretcher bars or
a frame or something - couldn't care less
about the art work. In your case this theif
has to have real balls to present your work
to a gallery for show. Amazing! But then at
my age nothing much amazes me any longer.
In any event, the thread was about posting
work on the internet and your interjection of
of the incident you mention confused matters
in that sense.
Bob & Dale Ford
situation to happen in another form. So I was looking for ways to stop the
equivalent from having in cyber space. And It really helped.
Dale
mdeli
>
>Before that, I studied graphic design and found some people would steal my ideas.
>Copying what they saw me working on. Drove me nuts because how do you prove it was
>your idea first?
The moment you show a work your ideas are public. Who is first is
unimportant. Its who does it best.
Picasso is a good example of copped ideas. Dali's basic ideas aren't
that original but he was able to refine them and carry them out to a
degree based on skill and craftsmanship which makes his major work
almost impossible to imitate. Its the combination of all three that
make the best painting.
Try stealing Bosh's ideas see how far you get. Was he first? Who
knows. Who was the first guy to paint a stripe on a large canvas?
...no skill no art
Modern Academic Art is incompetence in search of an idea.
Tired of Modern Art? Check out my web page!
Chris
mdeli wrote:
> knows. Who was the first guy to paint a stripe on a large canvas?
Apelles of Cos (at least the first one to make the art history books).
Regards;
Chris