abstract
the messenjah
summer a yellow blob up high
autumn red and orange flashes
winter black strokes against the sky
who can see the seasons vie
side by side in crayoned scrawl
except the visionary eye
within the child who put them all
in the drawing hanging on my wall
the messenjah
THE ARSBITER wrote:
> "the messenjah" <theguyo...@veryfast.biz>
> sednews:1107038252.0...@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
> Crap
>
> THE ARSBITER
Thank you for your comment.
Henrietta K Thomas
On 29 Jan 2005 14:37:32 -0800, "the messenjah"
<theguyo...@veryfast.biz> wrote:
Not bad. Not bad at all.
Henrietta
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i know punctuation is a matter of choice, i feel that this piece is
done an injustice by the lack of it, specially as it has a rhyme
scheme. jmo
billy
:)
TSB Bearings
Henrietta K Thomas wrote:
> [newsgroups trimmed]
>
> On 29 Jan 2005 14:37:32 -0800, "the messenjah"
> <theguyo...@veryfast.biz> wrote:
>
> >spring is green with bright bold slashes
> >summer a yellow blob up high
> >autumn red and orange flashes
> >winter black strokes against the sky
> >
> >who can see the seasons vie
> >side by side in crayoned scrawl
> >except the visionary eye
> >within the child who put them all
> >in the drawing hanging on my wall
>
> Not bad. Not bad at all.
Thank you, Henri.
Barbara's Cat
TSB Bearings <theguyo...@veryfast.biz> said:
> Henrietta K Thomas wrote:
> > [newsgroups trimmed]
> >
> > On 29 Jan 2005 14:37:32 -0800, "the messenjah"
> > <theguyo...@veryfast.biz> wrote:
> >
> > >spring is green with bright bold slashes
> > >summer a yellow blob up high
> > >autumn red and orange flashes
> > >winter black strokes against the sky
> > >
> > >who can see the seasons vie
> > >side by side in crayoned scrawl
> > >except the visionary eye
> > >within the child who put them all
> > >in the drawing hanging on my wall
> >
> > Not bad. Not bad at all.
>
> Thank you, Henri.
Attaboy, Pedo-Chuck. Throw on the old Lysaght charm by
referring to her with a man's name (no surprise there).
BTW, jerk, you never did thank Peter, Bertie, and me for
providing you with most of the lines for what you wrote.
It's sad to see how badly you crapped up our gifts.
--
Cm~
the messenjah
Barbara's Cat wrote:
> In article <1107093674.1...@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> TSB Bearings <theguyo...@veryfast.biz> said:
>
> > Henrietta K Thomas wrote:
> > > [newsgroups trimmed]
> > >
> > > On 29 Jan 2005 14:37:32 -0800, "the messenjah"
> > > <theguyo...@veryfast.biz> wrote:
> > >
> > > >spring is green with bright bold slashes
> > > >summer a yellow blob up high
> > > >autumn red and orange flashes
> > > >winter black strokes against the sky
> > > >
> > > >who can see the seasons vie
> > > >side by side in crayoned scrawl
> > > >except the visionary eye
> > > >within the child who put them all
> > > >in the drawing hanging on my wall
> > >
> > > Not bad. Not bad at all.
> >
> > Thank you, Henri.
>
> Attaboy, Pedo-Chuck. Throw on the old Lysaght charm by
> referring to her with a man's name (no surprise there).
Back again, Barbie? I know a woman here in Jax named Henri. With an
"i".
>
> BTW, jerk, you never did thank Peter, Bertie, and me for
> providing you with most of the lines for what you wrote.
> It's sad to see how badly you crapped up our gifts.
None of damned fools has ever given anything of value to anyone.
>
> --
> Cm~
Barbara's Cat
the dragqueen <perpetualm...@verystupid.moron> said:
> Barbara's Cat wrote:
> > In article <1107093674.1...@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> > TSB Bearings <theguyo...@veryfast.biz> said:
> >
> > > Henrietta K Thomas wrote:
> > > > [newsgroups trimmed]
> > > >
> > > > On 29 Jan 2005 14:37:32 -0800, "the messenjah"
> > > > <theguyo...@veryfast.biz> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >spring is green with bright bold slashes
> > > > >summer a yellow blob up high
> > > > >autumn red and orange flashes
> > > > >winter black strokes against the sky
> > > > >
> > > > >who can see the seasons vie
> > > > >side by side in crayoned scrawl
> > > > >except the visionary eye
> > > > >within the child who put them all
> > > > >in the drawing hanging on my wall
> > > >
> > > > Not bad. Not bad at all.
> > >
> > > Thank you, Henri.
> >
> > Attaboy, Pedo-Chuck. Throw on the old Lysaght charm by
> > referring to her with a man's name (no surprise there).
>
> Back again, Barbie? I know a woman here in Jax named Henri.
> With an "i".
One of your many drag queen friends, I suppose.
> > BTW, jerk, you never did thank Peter, Bertie, and me for
> > providing you with most of the lines for what you wrote.
> > It's sad to see how badly you crapped up our gifts.
>
> None of damned fools has ever given anything of value to anyone.
Yeah, I know damned fools like you haven't.
BTW, how many different damned fool socks are you going to post
with this morning? And what or who are you trying to hide from?
--
Cm~
Thur
Beware Troll Alert
Bertie the Bunyip
sednews:1107097435.8...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
>
>
> Barbara's Cat wrote:
>> In article <1107093674.1...@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>> TSB Bearings <theguyo...@veryfast.biz> said:
>>
>> > Henrietta K Thomas wrote:
>> > > [newsgroups trimmed]
>> > >
>> > > On 29 Jan 2005 14:37:32 -0800, "the messenjah"
>> > > <theguyo...@veryfast.biz> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >spring is green with bright bold slashes
>> > > >summer a yellow blob up high
>> > > >autumn red and orange flashes
>> > > >winter black strokes against the sky
>> > > >
>> > > >who can see the seasons vie
>> > > >side by side in crayoned scrawl
>> > > >except the visionary eye
>> > > >within the child who put them all
>> > > >in the drawing hanging on my wall
>> > >
>> > > Not bad. Not bad at all.
>> >
>> > Thank you, Henri.
>>
>> Attaboy, Pedo-Chuck. Throw on the old Lysaght charm by
>> referring to her with a man's name (no surprise there).
>
> Back again, Barbie? I know a woman here in Jax named Henri. With an
> "i".
Found out after the complaint was sworn against you, eh?
Bertie
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sednews:1107039552.4...@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Hey Chuckles, ho wlong befroe someone figger out where you plaigerised that
from?
bertie
the messenjah
Thanks Billy. I may re-write this old poem. (Well, it's 24 years old.)
http://skywriter.diaryland.com/050129_72.html
Barbara's Cat
the messenjah <theguyo...@veryfast.biz> said:
>
>
> billy wrote:
> > i can remember pics like this on my fridge
> > i know punctuation is a matter of choice, i feel that this piece is
> > done an injustice by the lack of it, specially as it has a rhyme
> > scheme. jmo
> >
> > billy
> > :)
>
> Thanks Billy. I may re-write this old poem. (Well, it's 24 years old.)
Transparent bullshit.
--
Cm~
Barbara's Cat
Bertie the Bunyip <XZXZ@XZXZ.> said:
> "the messenjah" <theguyo...@veryfast.biz>
> sednews:1107039552.4...@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
>
> >
> >
> > THE ARSBITER wrote:
> >> "the messenjah" <theguyo...@veryfast.biz>
> >> sednews:1107038252.0...@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
> >>
> >> > spring is green with bright bold slashes
> >> > summer a yellow blob up high
> >> > autumn red and orange flashes
> >> > winter black strokes against the sky
> >> >
> >> > who can see the seasons vie
> >> > side by side in crayoned scrawl
> >> > except the visionary eye
> >> > within the child who put them all
> >> > in the drawing hanging on my wall
> >>
> >>
> >> Crap
> >>
> >> THE ARSBITER
> >
> > Thank you for your comment.
> >
>
> Hey Chuckles, ho wlong befroe someone figger out where you plaigerised that
> from?
I don't believe anyone bothers to determine
if Pedo-Chuck has plagiarized something --
it's sort of become a given.
--
Cm~
Bertie the Bunyip
sednews:MPG.1c66e8fd5...@news-60.giganews.com:
Ah,i see.
Still, it';s fun to rub his nose in it whneyou find the source. I suspect
it makes him go all dayglo purple, and that has to be good.
Thur
"Biljo White" <biljo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:20050130121440.094$I...@newsreader.com...
> "Thur" <no-per...@z.com> wrote:
>> Rec.arts.fine
>> Beware Troll Alert
>
> Mani's been here since 1995 - why alert now?
He talks about art.
He does not Troll for flames, or try to create off topic
and disruptive threads.
If Mani's treatment is too rough for you then don't
provoke him.
Visit one of the poetry groups and watch them if you
feel the need to waste the time.
Thur
the messenjah
Look at you people. One little poem about a child's drawing, and you're
out of control. What happens to you when something real stressful
happens? Jeez...
Bertie the Bunyip
sednews:1107113656.9...@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
>
>
> Thur wrote:
>> "Biljo White" <biljo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:20050130121440.094$I...@newsreader.com...
>> > "Thur" <no-per...@z.com> wrote:
>> >> Rec.arts.fine
>> >> Beware Troll Alert
>> >
>> > Mani's been here since 1995 - why alert now?
>> He talks about art.
>> He does not Troll for flames, or try to create off topic
>> and disruptive threads.
>> If Mani's treatment is too rough for you then don't
>> provoke him.
>> Visit one of the poetry groups and watch them if you
>> feel the need to waste the time.
>> Thur
>
> Look at you people. One little poem about a child's drawing, and you're
> out of control.
Look who's talking.
Bertie
Barbara's Cat
the messenjah <theguyo...@veryfast.biz> said:
I see you're out casting a bit of that "Lysaght Mystique"
fishing for supporters again. Reel 'em in, moron.
--
Cm~
Henrietta K Thomas
On 30 Jan 2005 11:34:16 -0800, "the messenjah"
<theguyo...@veryfast.biz> wrote:
I don't think it was the poem that bothered them so much as the crossposts.
They know what's going
on in the poetry groups, and they don't want it to happen to them.
Please don't crosspost anymore. If you want to post a poem to
rec.arts.fine, please post only to rec.arts.fine.
Ditto for us.arts.poetry. We're tired of the noise as well.
NightMist
>Rec.arts.fine
>Beware Troll Alert
And it isn't one of my three cats either.
They won't type for anything short of Mehitabel.
Barbara
--
"To repeat what others have said, requires education; to challenge
it, requires brains." -Mary Pettibone Poole
keith o'connor
poem in metaphorical terms it raises the question - which is more important
the external world object or the internal world object.
some art writers argue that the subject is secondary and that the artist's
created image - the art work - is the primary image. to imitate the primary
image is to lie since the secondary image takes place on a flat surface - so
the objective is to create an image that lets the viewer know that the
artiest is not trying to lie to them -
now we are down to the role of the visual lie in art.
--
take care: Keith
"the messenjah" <theguyo...@veryfast.biz> wrote in message
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the messenjah
keith o'connor wrote:
> the cross posting occurred: let's take a closer look at it - looking
at the
> poem in metaphorical terms it raises the question - which is more
important
> the external world object or the internal world object.
>
> some art writers argue that the subject is secondary and that the
artist's
> created image - the art work - is the primary image. to imitate the
primary
> image is to lie since the secondary image takes place on a flat
surface - so
> the objective is to create an image that lets the viewer know that
the
> artiest is not trying to lie to them -
> now we are down to the role of the visual lie in art.
I appreciate your comments.
Bertie the Bunyip
sednews:1107227275.9...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>
>
> keith o'connor wrote:
>> the cross posting occurred: let's take a closer look at it - looking
> at the
>> poem in metaphorical terms it raises the question - which is more
> important
>> the external world object or the internal world object.
>>
>> some art writers argue that the subject is secondary and that the
> artist's
>> created image - the art work - is the primary image. to imitate the
> primary
>> image is to lie since the secondary image takes place on a flat
> surface - so
>> the objective is to create an image that lets the viewer know that
> the
>> artiest is not trying to lie to them -
>> now we are down to the role of the visual lie in art.
>
> I appreciate your comments.
>>
You appreciae any attention at all, pedofreek.
bertie
Thur
"keith o'connor" <ke...@tinmangallery.com> wrote in message
news:ztidnQTL3tI...@rogers.com...
> the cross posting occurred: let's take a closer look at it - looking at
> the
> poem in metaphorical terms it raises the question - which is more
> important
> the external world object or the internal world object.
>
> some art writers argue that the subject is secondary and that the artist's
> created image - the art work - is the primary image. to imitate the
> primary
> image is to lie since the secondary image takes place on a flat surface -
> so
> the objective is to create an image that lets the viewer know that the
> artiest is not trying to lie to them -
> now we are down to the role of the visual lie in art.
>
> --
>
>
> take care: Keith
>
> www.tinmangallery.com
>
<snipped all remnant of trollish crossposts>
Not sure I understand.
There is what was in the mind of the artist. The intention the artist
had to communicate something to the viewer. The superficial
effect the painting has on the viewer. The misunderstood conception
that most art produces, since there is no definite language.
Then there is the successful understanding of the artists intention. Maybe.
Have you an example of the "artistic lie"?
Regarding what is important.
I suggest that the best situation is when the artists intention is
successfully
transmitted to the viewer.
Well, at least the framework. Maybe there is room, as in literature and
music, to provide a space for personal interpretation.
When the artwork is intended solely to become this last function without
any intended communication, then I suggest we are getting to your
"artistic lie"?
Thur
Barbara's Cat
the messenjah <theguyo...@veryfast.biz> said:
> keith o'connor wrote:
> > the cross posting occurred: let's take a closer look at it - looking
> at the
> > poem in metaphorical terms it raises the question - which is more
> important
> > the external world object or the internal world object.
> >
> > some art writers argue that the subject is secondary and that the
> artist's
> > created image - the art work - is the primary image. to imitate the
> primary
> > image is to lie since the secondary image takes place on a flat
> surface - so
> > the objective is to create an image that lets the viewer know that
> the
> > artiest is not trying to lie to them -
> > now we are down to the role of the visual lie in art.
>
> I appreciate your comments.
I'm sure the actual author would appreciate his comments too.
You will be passing along his comments to the actual author,
won't you?
Link to the Plagiarism Mini-FAQ on Charles S. Lysaght:
http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/chuck/plagiarism.html
--
Cm~
the messenjah
Barbara's Cat wrote:
> In article <1107227275.9...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
> the messenjah <theguyo...@veryfast.biz> said:
>
> > keith o'connor wrote:
> > > the cross posting occurred: let's take a closer look at it -
looking
> > at the
> > > poem in metaphorical terms it raises the question - which is more
> > important
> > > the external world object or the internal world object.
> > >
> > > some art writers argue that the subject is secondary and that the
> > artist's
> > > created image - the art work - is the primary image. to imitate
the
> > primary
> > > image is to lie since the secondary image takes place on a flat
> > surface - so
> > > the objective is to create an image that lets the viewer know
that
> > the
> > > artiest is not trying to lie to them -
> > > now we are down to the role of the visual lie in art.
> >
> > I appreciate your comments.
>
> I'm sure the actual author would appreciate his comments too.
Then send them along...
> You will be passing along his comments to the actual author,
> won't you?
I can't. I am the actual author, Barbara.
Barbara's Cat
the messenjah <theguyo...@veryfast.biz> said:
Bullshit.
the messenjah
This is a little game for you isn't it, Barbara? I post something, you
insult me. I respond, you respond. And then it goes on and on...
I'm taking it to the next level, but you don't have the intellectual
capacity to reach that level. In other words, Barbara. I'm smarter than
you are. Of course, that's not really saying much.
Barbara's Cat
the messenjah <theguyo...@veryfast.biz> said:
Please, moron, excuse me for a moment while I laugh uncontrollably.
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HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!
--
Cm~
Rob Evans
messenjah <theguyo...@veryfast.biz> writes
>I'm taking it to the next level, but you don't have the intellectual
>capacity to reach that level. In other words, Barbara. I'm smarter than
>you are. Of course, that's not really saying much.
>
flat-lining at stupid ever since you arrived.
Moron.
Rob
--
Rob Evans
When I see a swine
I reach for 45-calibre pearls.
keith o'connor
have been away for a few days - just checking back
painting takes place on a two dimensional surface - to create a third
dimension on a two dimensional surface requires trickery - the extreme
classic example is birds pecking at surface painted grapes - bulls being
tricked by a surface painting of a cow - not need to go on - this is in
essence a graphic lie - exceptional artists and many master painters - stop
short of the complete illusion you the viewer are given clues such that you
do not mistake the painting for an actual three dimensional object - master
work is not in that sense a graphic lie
so the objective is to lie but let your viewer know that you are lying -
therefor all art is in essence a lie to varying degrees.
to deny this fact is to enter into a state of delusion - does rothko for
example create a lie when he seeks his colour field effects - he creates
atmospheric colour which is pure visual illusion but he does not attempt in
the traditional manner to activate the viewer's sense of touch which deals
with the third dimension.
--
take care: Keith
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