fixative
erika
that it does not smudge? If so what type. If not how do I prevent it
from smudging?
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perhaps a year, and then do a varnish. Oil painting in any form, whether
from a tube or from a stick, is, after all, oil painting, and requres the
same handling.
Cindy
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verifiable minutes.
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> x-no-archive: yes
> I suppose that the waiting period is for some
> of the lighter elements in the oil to evaporate,
> leaving a thicker, more physically solid substance,
> or is there some chemical reaction (curing) going on?
> Thur
>
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Gud E. Nuff
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>
>I did a picture in oil crayon,can I use some kind of fixative on it so
>that it does not smudge? If so what type. If not how do I prevent it
>from smudging?
Give it time to dry thoroughly and it shouldn't
smudge any longer. You might try an aerosol
spray can of acrylic varnish, lightly applied,
or if you want to spend the money for artist's
varnish, a Damar aerosol would be the right
choice - again, lightly applied.
Gud E. Nuff
says...
>
>x-no-archive: yes
>I suppose that the waiting period is for some
>of the lighter elements in the oil to evaporate,
>leaving a thicker, more physically solid substance,
>or is there some chemical reaction (curing) going on?
>Thur
With OIL paints, it's really not correct
to refer to the paint as "drying" since
it is a chemical reaction between air
and oil that is the slow-going portion
of the process. The turps or mineral spirits
used in the painting process evaporate away
rapidly, but it takes about six months,
according to all accounts, for the reactions
to reach maturation in the usual oil painting.
Perhaps longer in an unusually thickly painted
painting.
Gud E. Nuff
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>
>Spray fixative will shorten the drying time from accused "months" to
>verifiable minutes.
WRONG WRONG WRONG. You're talking
about something you obviously don't
understand. The dried surface coat of varnish
may give the mistaken impression of
curing, allowing one to touch the
surface without paint picking up,
but it's only a surface
effect. Ever read Mayer's 'bible?'
Spray fixative puts a "film" over
the paint, thereby RETARDING the
the chemical reaction with air. It's
a "cheat" to allow one to display
a just-completed painting by evening
out the surface (glossy vs matte)
and providing a modicum of protection
to the surface in the interim.
Flobby Bischer
As for fixatives in general, use on DRY pastels, sparingly. Always use
fixative outdoors or in a professionally ventilated room. It's very
dangerous stuff to breath.
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> In article <vjvndlf...@corp.supernews.com>,
> http://www.rcip.com/nerdgerl/email.htm says...
> >
> >Spray fixative will shorten the drying time from accused "months" to
> >verifiable minutes.
>
> WRONG WRONG WRONG. You're talking
> about something you obviously don't
> understand.
It's obvious you have know idea what you're talking about. I have EXPERIENCE
not only with using fixative, BUT ALSO WITH USING CAPITAL LETTERS.
> The dried surface coat of varnish
> may give the mistaken impression of
> curing, allowing one to touch the
> surface without paint picking up,
> but it's only a surface
> effect. Ever read Mayer's 'bible?'
Irrelevant
> Spray fixative puts a "film" over
> the paint, thereby RETARDING the
> the chemical reaction with air. It's
> a "cheat" to allow one to display
> a just-completed painting by evening
> out the surface (glossy vs matte)
> and providing a modicum of protection
> to the surface in the interim.
Again, Irrelevent. Why don't you TRY IT before disclaiming the procedure.
Unless, that is, you use "oil crayons" in a manner that resembles a 3-layer
cake when finished!
Marc Sabatella
months,
> perhaps a year, and then do a varnish. Oil painting in any form,
whether
> from a tube or from a stick, is, after all, oil painting, and requres
the
> same handling.
Not quite. The term "oil crayon" is not specific - it isn't in standard
use to my knowledge - but "oil pastel" is, and the oil content is small
enough relative to the wax or other inert binder that it does not cure.
Furthermore, many varnishes will dissolve the wax and ruin the painting.
On the other hand, "oil sticks" pretty much reverse this ratio of oil to
wax compared to oil pastels, and will indeed cure over time.
There are indeed fixatives specially formulated to help protect oil
pastels, just as there are for soft pastels. In both cases, though, use
of the fixative ends up being a personal choice often rejected by
artists, because of how it affects the color and surface quality of the
painting, the risk of damaging a painting with it, and the relatively
small benefit it provides - a fixed pastel is still going to be
susceptible to smudging if not handled carefully, and it will still need
to be framed under glass if you care about preserving it more that a few
years.
Which answers the second part of the original question - the
traditional, and more effectively, way of prevetning smudging in pastel
(whether oil or soft) is to frame it under glass.
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Gud E. Nuff
says...
>Not quite. The term "oil crayon" is not specific - it isn't in standard
>use to my knowledge - but "oil pastel" is
As well as the term "oil stick" - referring to those
big fat logs of oil color that are wonderful for those
who enjoy working loosely. I have seen oil stick
paintings that were not framed under glass since the
oil stick does immitate "real" oil paints as it
hardens.
Seagull Manager
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I believe oil sticks dry exactly like oil paints, except more slowly because
of the wax.