Classical Italian Abstract Artist Preview
Gloria_Emma Wetzell Moya Mendez
one of the few remaining classical abstract Italian oil painters, working
out of his studio in Fiumicello, Italy (near Udune).
His web site is almost finished (within days) and all of it is functioning
except for the "Purchase" page. Take advantage of this preview to get first
shot at one of his original oils. We only sell originals. The website has
not yet been submitted to search engines, so this truly is a unique
opportunity.
Enjoy the art!
David Schiesher
Sales Associate
Elvio Zorzenon Fine Art
Thur
"Gloria_Emma Wetzell Moya Mendez" <gloria...@bluewin.ch> wrote in message
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On the other hand, they have no meaning to me, and however
cleverly the paint has been applied, I would not be able to look
at one of them for too long.
The paintings are about the best they could be under such
circumstances.
--
Thur
chris
the composition is always plunked in the middle of the picture, safely
confined away from the edges, and the arrangements are always vertical
or slanted slightly to the right. Plus the dynamic range of color &
tone is pretty unchallenging. All in all, it reminds me of cubism in
search of a subject....
Chris
artangel
However, they would look good in a 70s office. Bright and will not
distract anyone from their work.
Bill
justice to the paintings:
Rotten, Stupid, Worthless, Talentless, Hopeless, Childish, and
Imbecillic. This is a serious waste of good paint and canvas.
Have a nice day. Bill
s_l_a...@hotmail.com
You're right words fail you.
Gloria_Emma Wetzell Moya Mendez
Thur, chris, artangel and Biljo. Your comments were thoughtful and sensitive
even though you were not crazy about his work. Bill, thank you for taking
the time to look at the paintings. I found your comments unhelpful and mean.
I can't imagine you saying what you said to Elvio in person. He's a 66 year
old guy who loves to paint and sells almost everything he makes. Your
comments, Bill, would only cause hurt if he were to take them to heart. Why
would you want to demean a person's life work with such harsh, unbalanced
words?
David
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Bill
incorrectly, as a Presbyterian, a vegetarian or a jew, does not make me
anti Presbyterian, vegetarian or jewish. I meant to identify Picasso as
communist, since many of the founders and leaders of communism,
including Trotsky, were in- deed jewish. As was the founder of the
dreaded Soviet secret police. A good number of the top officials and
prominent figures of the Soviet Union were jewish including commissars,
astronauts and political leaders. Surely you won't dispute the fact
that Picasso was a communist. Being badly misguided in his political
convictions does not necessarily mean his artistic views were similarly
flawed. But it leaves PLENTY of room for disagreement with those views.
And with the whole trend of splattering paint on canvas and calling it
art.
chris
Good one Bill. Communist now equates to Jewish? I know a number of
Israelis, among others, who might beg to differ. As of course would
anyone who ever opened a history book (at least one not on the Aryan
Brotherhood approved reading list..) As for Felix Dzerzhinsky, you nit,
he wasn't Jewish; he was born Catholic and in his youth, for a while,
even felt called to the priesthood. FWIW, he wasn't even Russian; he
was born into a family of Polish gentry.
Cheers;
Chris
chris
My apologies for the brusqueness of my response to Elvio's work. I'm
glad you posted your follow-up & I hope you stick around to discuss
Elvio's (or other's) work. It's too easy to forget that there is a
human being at the other end of the post, and if Elvio is painting
successfully and for the love of it, that certainly shouldn't be
brushed aside.
Regards;
Chris
Bill
involved in the founding of the communist party and were NOT important
figures in the Soviet Union and that that Trotsky was NOT Jewish and
that Picasso was NOT a life long communist. But you CAN'T ! Instead
you dance around the subject, and fail to admit the truth while trying
to play the tired old dog eared anti semitic card. As for Dzerzhinsky
his Polish credentials are dubious at best. Sorry Chris. It won't
flush. Any more than the claim by Picasso supporters that his work is
worthy of anything but a liner in a bird cage.
And I REPEAT. Identifying someone as a vegetarian does not mean I
am ANTI- vegetarian. Unless you're looking for an argument as Biljo
seems to be doing by identifying himself as a black homosexual. He
hoped by doing so he would start that argument with a racist and a
homophobe. Sorry to disappoint you both. But Picasso still stinks, and
so does the whole canvas-smeared-with-paint movement.
Have a nice day. Bill.
Thur
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Bill said in another thread:_
> You're giving Picasso more attention than he deserves. He was a jew
> who spent most of his life sticking his finger in the eye of artists
> better than himself, and trying to denigrate a thousand years of great
> art which focused on the Christian heritage of Europe. Don't look for
> meaning in his doodles. It HAS none! And without the force of his
> ethnic community propping up demand for his work by bogus claims of
> sales at high prices, no one would allow his work to hang on their
> walls. Picasso was good at two things: abusing women and self promotion.
The whole post was an attack of both P.'s art and his morals.
The inclusion of his supposed race can be read in no other
way than that it was an attempt to use the word as a term of
abuse.
If just one clue had been given as to why his supposed race
had to be mentioned, then other possibilities could have hidden
the intentions.
The attack on his morals was pathetic.
Being a "jew" is no different to being a Catalan or a Spaniard.
Picasso's attitude to sex and women and the accepted "morals"
of the day was little different to many other painters both great
and humble.
Most painters of any worth stand apart from their fellows
in some way. Their commentary on life is sharper, their
intensity deeper and their insight painfully attuned to the world
about them.
--
Thur
chris
especially as that seeming is mostly a product of your wonderfully
perverse historical illiteracy. One won't forget that you are also the
person to whom Picasso is Jewish and a life long Communist (he in fact
joined the Party at the age of 63), to whom Jews are Communists (some
were, some weren't) and Communists are Jews (some were, some weren't),
to whom Dzerzhinsky is not Polish (despite the fact that Poles on both
sides of the Communist divide claim them as Polish, as does every
recognized historian), ad naseum.
I agree to a large extent with Biljo (and that's rare, believe me) -
you should be considered more an amusing crackpot than anything else -
except for the fact that as both a political and asthetic conservative
I find your singular ignorance does far more harm than good to the
notion of understanding what went wrong with art 100 years ago, and how
to heal the breach grown between it and the rest of society. Most
distastefully, and as Thur rightly points out, you attempt to use
supposed racial - or even political - characteristics in order to
denigrate an artists work. Do you really think that that washes with
anyone other than complete cultural isolate these days? It's just as
vapidly nihilistic as the arguments of your counterparts on what might
be termed the extreme left of the art world, who try and portray
traditional arts as representative of an oppressive paternalism. I'd
love to see both you and them shooed back to high school until you had
achieved at least a grade 9 or 10 education, but unfortunately I doubt
they'd have you. I suppose the one benefit your existence yields up is
as a reminder to those of us who do have a real interest in art what
becomes of the person who fails to think, and to think tolerantly.
Thanks, at least, for that.
Cheers;
Chris
Gloria_Emma Wetzell Moya Mendez
Thank you for the apology, but I don't expect everyone to like Elvio's work.
I also know that many people do like his work because only six of his
current paintings in the gallery have not been sold yet, which means he sold
13 paintings in about a month. Not bad. I believe that one's appreciation of
artwork is determined by very personal and subjective factors and no one
should be judged according to what they like or don't like.
For instance, in reference to your comments about his work, some people may
like center-focussed compositions or right-leaning arrangements (politics
aside) or unchallenging dynamic ranges of color and tone. I for one, having
not studied art, have no idea what you mean by the latter point. I can't
critically or academically analyze a painting as many of you are able to do.
(I'm a mental health therapist.) But I know, somehow, when I look at a piece
of art whether I like it or not. I like some of Elvio's work and some I
don't like.
As a mental health therapist, I could say much about Bill's critique of the
paintings when he said they were "Rotten, Stupid, Worthless, Talentless,
Hopeless, Childish, and Imbecillic", and then in the same breath says, "Have
a nice day." but my professionalism and compassionate nature prevents me
from doing so. And I've learned how to allow words with such negative energy
to move through and out of me instead of getting stuck inside of me, so that
they leave no lasting impression.
I've never studied Picasso's work either and I really don't care with which
political party or nationality or religion he chooses to align himself. All
I know is that his name is known by the whole world and that his work has
had a huge impact on contemporary art, and for that alone, he deserves
respect.
All the best,
David
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Thur
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> David -
>
> since you are a mental health professional, I'd like your opinion on
> something. Others have mentioned that the reason people like Bill and Mani
> Deli post outrageous, inflammatory statements on usenet is to get the
> attention that is missing from their lives. I myself wonder if it is not
> a
> love of confrontation, as with young gang members who continually look for
> trouble. What do you think?
Matthew 7:5
--
Thur
chris
Thur wrote:
> Matthew 7:5
>
Luke 15:24 ? Or perhaps John 8:7?
(I may not be religious, but I did go to a church school...)
Chris
King Rundzap
the time to look at the paintings. I found your comments unhelpful and
mean.
I can't imagine you saying what you said to Elvio in person. He's a 66
year
old guy who loves to paint and sells almost everything he makes."
The important thing to remember about criticism is that it has little
weight unless we think the person making isn't an idiot. The
assumption that all criticism has equal weight, because all critics are
equally competent/capable of reasoned, critical thinking, is pretty
absurd. We too often become upset at criticism that we should just
dismiss because the person giving it is simply stupid and/or way off
base.
Mani Deli
wrote:
>Gloria_Emma . . . said, "Bill, thank you for taking
>the time to look at the paintings. I found your comments unhelpful and
>mean.
>I can't imagine you saying what you said to Elvio in person. He's a 66
>year
>old guy who loves to paint and sells almost everything he makes."
Except for the fact that his paintings are run-of-the-mill- nothing.
Not quite as bad as Fox.
>The important thing to remember about criticism is that it has little
>weight unless we think the person making isn't an idiot. The
>assumption that all criticism has equal weight, because all critics are
>equally competent/capable of reasoned, critical thinking, is pretty
>absurd. We too often become upset at criticism that we should just
>dismiss because the person giving it is simply stupid and/or way off
>base.
This guy is a patronizining ass.
artangel
If Mani Deli likes your work, STOP PAINTING! Do something else now.
Run for the hills!
If he however hates your work - take heart, you are on the right path.
Gloria_Emma Wetzell Moya Mendez
I can't answer that question because I've never met Bill or Mani and I
refuse to make generalizations about "people like Bill and Mani". There
could be many reasons for posting outrageous, inflammatory statements, and
any that I would mention would be pure speculation, so I won't mention any.
David