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Bethany

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Nov 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/19/99
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Any suggestions about wholesale/ cheap catalogs? Also has anyone had any
experiences with those newfangled oil sticks? I hate using paintbrushes,
half the time I just dig right in with my fingers instead... Thanks!
~Bethany

Lil Ruse

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Nov 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/21/99
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In article <8176s8$4nss$2...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>, Beth...@prodigy.net
says...

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>Any suggestions about wholesale/ cheap catalogs?

Most catalog order firms are online now. Just do a
web search on the words 'art supplies' etc.

>Also has anyone had any
>experiences with those newfangled oil sticks?

There's nothing 'newfangled' about oil sticks unless
your term of reference is pre-war vs post-war or
something. They've been around for years.


Bethany

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Nov 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/21/99
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I just heard about the oil sticks- guess I'm not cutting edge! I did do
searches for catalogs, (and ordered some) but there so many of them I was
wondering if anyone had a "favorite" that they liked. (cheap is good)
Lil Ruse wrote in message <38380...@oracle.zianet.com>...

Richard / Marsha

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Nov 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/21/99
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I guess I'm the only one here who has such poor shopping
locally that I have to order most everything important to
me. Yes, I have a favorite, it is Jerry's Artarama. They have
a huge catalog and the best prices I've found. Their url is:
www.jerryscatalog.com/

Marsha
"Bethany" <Beth...@prodigy.net> wrote:

>I just heard about the oil sticks- guess I'm not cutting edge! I did do
>searches for catalogs, (and ordered some) but there so many of them I was
>wondering if anyone had a "favorite" that they liked. (cheap is good)
>Lil Ruse wrote in message <38380...@oracle.zianet.com>...
>>In article <8176s8$4nss$2...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>,
>Beth...@prodigy.net
>>says...
>>>
>>>Any suggestions about wholesale/ cheap catalogs?
>>
>>Most catalog order firms are online now. Just do a
>>web search on the words 'art supplies' etc.

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Alison A Raimes

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Nov 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/22/99
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In article <819e8t$46j0$1...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>, Bethany
<Beth...@prodigy.net> writes

>I just heard about the oil sticks- guess I'm not cutting edge! I did do
>searches for catalogs, (and ordered some) but there so many of them I was
>wondering if anyone had a "favorite" that they liked. (cheap is good)

I don't know what is up with the wicked witch of the south these days,
but in answer to your original question about oil sticks I am assuming
you are referring to something like Windsor and Newton *oil bars* or
Markal *oil paintsticks* ? I prefer the former - they come in three
sixes but I generally use the stumps (165 ml size). If you like to
*draw* as part of your painting process they are terrific and once on
the paper/canvas you can blend them with turpentine or more linseed oil
(they already have some blended with the pigments). I like to blend them
with my fingers or a turps soaked rag. Alternatively you can use a a
brush dipped in turps on them - its a great way of working in oils
outside or somewhere away from the studio. The seem expensive but last
for a long time - if you aren't heavy handed. You might also want to
check out what makes of pigment sticks are available - in the UK the
best ones are handmade by a company called R&F.

As for suppliers - I guess it depends where you are. I would say Pearl
have the most competitive prices in the US and I believe they have mail
order, don't they ?

Good Luck !
Alison
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http://www.raimes.demon.co.uk

Charles Eicher

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Nov 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/22/99
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In article <819e8t$46j0$1...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>, "Bethany" says...

>
>I just heard about the oil sticks- guess I'm not cutting edge! I did do
>searches for catalogs, (and ordered some) but there so many of them I was
>wondering if anyone had a "favorite" that they liked. (cheap is good)

If you like cheap, you can buy huge "oil bars" in about 5 colors, from hardware
stores, farm stores, and I saw them in a catalog from "Forestry Supply" (boy I
get some obscure catalogs). They are commonly used in forestry to mark trees for
cutting, and are sometimes used to mark livestock for culling. I mean, you can
get a HUGE stick about a foot long and about 4 inches across for a couple of
bucks. They even come in fluorescent colors, although I'd stick with black or
white for painting. Some of my painter friends swear by them, but I'm not
convinced its a very good quality pigment and binder. They look and handle
exactly like the professional oil bars you buy in art supply stores for about
$10.
You can do some amazing things with oil sticks. I like the "blender stick" which
has just the oil binder, no pigment. But this stuff takes a long time to dry,
you might as well use real oil paint. I remember my ex- used to print for
Richard Serra, they did a series of silkscreens that were done by scribbling oil
stick over the screen stencil. Then they waited for the support to dry, and then
printed it again, up to 12 times. You could just see how thick the pigment was
at the edges, it was really dramatic. And it had a wonderful texture. But it was
a massive amount of work, so these prints were typically only about 6 inches
wide.

>Lil Ruse wrote in message <38380...@oracle.zianet.com>...
>>In article <8176s8$4nss$2...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>,
>Beth...@prodigy.net
>>says...
>>>
>>>Any suggestions about wholesale/ cheap catalogs?
>>
>>Most catalog order firms are online now. Just do a
>>web search on the words 'art supplies' etc.
>>

Marilyn Welch

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Nov 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/22/99
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Yup,
Those bright orange-glo marks on trees are the kiss of death.
Those oil sticks must have great durability because they are used
in the Northwest, and the stuff stays on and on and on,
just like Pond's lipstick. (remember Pond's Charles?)

The note of caution for using oil sticks on paper, gesso the paper,
or give it a coat of acrylic mat medium for durability.

But all that durability, archival stuff can be a bore, after all,
how long have we got here? Is a painting a painting if there is no one
left on earth to see it?

Marilyn

wq...@victoria.tc.ca
Victoria BC Canada

Bethany

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Nov 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/22/99
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There is an art store about 45 min away from me called Crafts 2000 that is
SO CHEAP! (About half as much as regular stores) Unfortunately, they don't
sell the oil sticks. They said nobody bought them, so they stopped carrying
them... I'm going to try the forestry supply company and Jerry's catalog.
Thanks, everyone for the oil sticks advice- very needed! Thanks again,
~Bethany


trevor atkinson

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Dec 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/9/99
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I use them all the time. I work from the landscape of Northumberland,
England. Check out my stuff and see that I do www.tatkinson.freeservers.com.

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