Abstract, animated art ?
Peter Petersen
does it ring the bell with anybody around ??
(Or, maybe I didn’t come to the right newsletter group, and so please
help me).
Anyway, I am here on my way to develop what I think is an entirely new
kind of art, with the artist more likely to work as a composer, in
colours, rather than directly being a painter.
A kind of abstract art, abstract in the sense of “music” i.e. music in
colours, only to be made with computers and to be shown on computers,
and the cinema eventually.
With absolutely no printers or canvasses involved. A question just as
absurd as “to print out music”.
Music is a question of listening. Here it is a question of looking, on a
screen big or small.
Moving colours. With possible key words, Nordic Lights, cosmic lights
(?), synaesthesia (in English colour hearing), music with a vision of
colours coming out simultaneously.
Very beautiful indeed, if you don’t mind telling it myself.
Only, if someone has the remembrance, with something almost in the same
direction, but still very, very differently (he was then working
directly, with nails or whatever, on the film) Norma MacLaren, one of
the cofounders of the Film Board of Canada.
However, a tiny little problem is. Trying to bring pictures together in
a kind of abstract movie, it takes so much energy that any attempt of
bringing it on the Internet, even with smaller examples, is just out of
question. From something like twenty to thirty Megabytes involved, for
the very smallest, and normally hundred to three hundred or even more,
there is only one way out – the CD-ROM, the DVD, or the movie of course.
Therefore I cannot show you. You have to imagine, or ask for examples to
be sent.
First of all, if you have any idea with where to go in order to publish
such things, I shall only be delighted.
Thank you for helping me,
Peter Petersen
xform1
pej...@club-internet.fr wrote:
> ABSTRACT, ANIMATED "3d" ART -
> does it ring the bell with anybody around ??
>
> help me).
>
I have the same problem -- none which I know of deal specifically
with electronic arts... There just isn't yet a critical mass of
computer artists. Most get interested in special effects or
video games, stuff that sells product & never look back...
Don't let that be a discouragement.
> Anyway, I am here on my way to develop what I think is an entirely new
> kind of art, with the artist more likely to work as a composer, in
> colours, rather than directly being a painter.
>
> A kind of abstract art, abstract in the sense of ?music? i.e. music in
> colours, only to be made with computers and to be shown on computers,
> and the cinema eventually.
> With absolutely no printers or canvasses involved. A question just as
> absurd as ?to print out music?.
> Music is a question of listening. Here it is a question of looking, on
a
> screen big or small.
> Moving colours. With possible key words, Nordic Lights, cosmic lights
> (?), synaesthesia (in English colour hearing), music with a vision of
> colours coming out simultaneously.
>
This is not at all new. These ideas (combining music with abstract film)
can be traced back at least to the 1920's with Viking Eggeling, and
in the context of electronic and computer art with John Whitney who
started sometime in the fifties. I would at recommend Whitney's book
_Digital Harmony_ for an introduction to these ideas -- you would
probably find they resonate with your own. A brief bio of
Whitney may be found at
http://www.education.siggraph.org/stuff/spacef95/john.html
> Very beautiful indeed, if you don?t mind telling it myself.
>
> Only, if someone has the remembrance, with something almost in the
same
> direction, but still very, very differently (he was then working
> directly, with nails or whatever, on the film) Norma MacLaren, one of
> the cofounders of the Film Board of Canada.
>
> However, a tiny little problem is. Trying to bring pictures together
in
> a kind of abstract movie, it takes so much energy that any attempt of
> bringing it on the Internet, even with smaller examples, is just out
of
> question. From something like twenty to thirty Megabytes involved, for
> the very smallest, and normally hundred to three hundred or even more,
> there is only one way out - the CD-ROM, the DVD, or the movie of
course.
>
> Therefore I cannot show you. You have to imagine, or ask for examples
to
> be sent.
>
> First of all, if you have any idea with where to go in order to
publish
> such things, I shall only be delighted.
>
In my opinion: Don't worry about this now. In 3 years there
will be much greater bandwidth still. What's important is
that you enjoy and learn from what you do and strive for the
highest quality possible. I could not show my images for many
years until 24-bit color was commonplace, even with the cheapest
systems.
--Harvey
--xform1 at geocities dot com--
Transformations Digital Gallery:
http://www.geocities.com/Soho/Exhibit/5782
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Peter Nelson
Peter Petersen wrote in message <3747DE5B...@club-internet.fr>...
>ABSTRACT, ANIMATED "3d" ART –
>does it ring the bell with anybody around ??
>
>help me).
>
>Anyway, I am here on my way to develop what I think is an entirely new
>kind of art, with the artist more likely to work as a composer, in
>colours, rather than directly being a painter.
It's been done a lot. Some Russian who does anstract
animation was posting his adverts on this n.g. a few months
ago. But that doesn't mean you can't do it better.
>However, a tiny little problem is. Trying to bring pictures together in
>a kind of abstract movie, it takes so much energy that any attempt of
>bringing it on the Internet, even with smaller examples, is just out of
>question.
Why? How does the energy it takes to do it make it any more
difficult to put on the 'net?
> From something like twenty to thirty Megabytes involved, for
>the very smallest,
This is not a problem. Almost a million people (including me)
in the US alone have broadband access AT HOME these days.
> and normally hundred to three hundred or even more,
>there is only one way out – the CD-ROM, the DVD, or the movie of course.
So what? Why can't you just put an excerpt on the web? To
use your analogy with music, people put samples of symphonies
on the web all the time. Go to any online CD store and see
for yourself.
---peter
tin...@home.com
Petersen
I will add that:
I have been playing with creating images both
representational and abstract using paint shop
pro and a mouse (no scanning). At the moment they
are static but in my mind's eye I am imagining a
movement process that would add another dimension
to the work.
One of my works which I would like to animate at
some distant point in the future is "Source", I am
also thinking it would work well in a political
work based upon an animated german expressionist
approach. I want to include some viewer
interaction through mouse or other interface
control.
It's nice to dream.
"source" is at "http://www.tinmangallery.com"
take care: keith/tinman/pan
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Peter Petersen wrote:
>
> ABSTRACT, ANIMATED "3d" ART –
> does it ring the bell with anybody around ??
>
> (Or, maybe I didn’t come to the right newsletter group, and so please
> help me).
>
> Anyway, I am here on my way to develop what I think is an entirely new
> kind of art, with the artist more likely to work as a composer, in
> colours, rather than directly being a painter.
>
> A kind of abstract art, abstract in the sense of “music” i.e. music in
> colours, only to be made with computers and to be shown on computers,
> and the cinema eventually.
> With absolutely no printers or canvasses involved. A question just as
> absurd as “to print out music”.
> Music is a question of listening. Here it is a question of looking, on a
> screen big or small.
> Moving colours. With possible key words, Nordic Lights, cosmic lights
> (?), synaesthesia (in English colour hearing), music with a vision of
> colours coming out simultaneously.
>
> Very beautiful indeed, if you don’t mind telling it myself.
>
> Only, if someone has the remembrance, with something almost in the same
> direction, but still very, very differently (he was then working
> directly, with nails or whatever, on the film) Norma MacLaren, one of
> the cofounders of the Film Board of Canada.
>
> However, a tiny little problem is. Trying to bring pictures together in
> a kind of abstract movie, it takes so much energy that any attempt of
> bringing it on the Internet, even with smaller examples, is just out of
> question. From something like twenty to thirty Megabytes involved, for
> the very smallest, and normally hundred to three hundred or even more,
> there is only one way out – the CD-ROM, the DVD, or the movie of course.
>
> Therefore I cannot show you. You have to imagine, or ask for examples to
> be sent.
>
> First of all, if you have any idea with where to go in order to publish
> such things, I shall only be delighted.
>