KITSCH
Dagnytgrt
have on my shelf or a Chinese checkers "board" on my wall. It's also the little
"doo-dads" too many grandmas have sitting around their kitchens and living
rooms. - And the lava lamp my guy still cherishes.
Sally Milo
http://www.milodesign.com
Tucson, Arizona
ww Bracken
"Dominique Moreau" <dm.m...@wp.pl> wrote in message
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> Please tell me what doeas the word "kitsch" (not only in art)mean for you?
> What is the definition of kitsch
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Dominique
Nono Rayne
says...
>
>Please tell me what doeas the word "kitsch" (not only in art)mean for you?
>What is the definition of kitsch
In German, the word means "trash."
The English dictionary definition is:
"Something that appeals to popular or low-brow
taste and is often of poor quality."
My definition would be anything created by
Thos Kincade, Hummel, Franklin Mint, or
Jeff Koons.
gaynorgallagher
> >Please tell me what doeas the word "kitsch" (not only in art)mean for
you?
> >What is the definition of kitsch
>
> In German, the word means "trash."
>
> The English dictionary definition is:
>
> "Something that appeals to popular or low-brow
> taste and is often of poor quality."
>
> My definition would be anything created by
> Thos Kincade, Hummel, Franklin Mint, or
> Jeff Koons.
when I was taught art in the 70's at school, kitsch was purely used in the
negative sense to refer to anything like Kincade or pretty gaudy articles
like Austrian folk patterns on cushions for the tourists. there was still an
inherent snobbery of high and low art. a left over from Greenberg and pure
modernism. Jeff Koons however is considered as 'high art' deliberately
using kitsch as a visual language. since Andy warhol the whole divide
between high and low, kitsch versus taste has become more complicated.
gaynor
mdeli
Raphael, Dutch flower painting and three quarters of the best
religious art etc are kitsch by today's standards.
As an imperative, the term kitsch really means ignore anything that
shows exceptional superior skill and craft. Once this tabu label is
attached to any artwork by the modern academic theologian one should
expect no further discussion on the matter. In this sense Kitsch is
equivalent to blasphemy. All artwork so labeled is then excommunicated
from any holy place showing Modern Academic Art.
A few results of the dreaded kitsch label are books on Surrealism with
no mention of Dali and slanted Modern Academic Art history which
totally ignores the work of 19th century academic masters.
Of course when Picasso and anyone who is as poor a draftsman tries to
produce kitsch the result is abomination (Mother and child, dove of
peace, Paolo and the donkey etc.) Artzy fartzies label this sort of
over the couch crap as "self expression."
Here is my definition of Modern academic painted non-kitsch: it
exhibits lousy draftsmanship, no craftsmanship and looks like a put-on
that few would rescue from a trash heap if it lacked a coveted
signature. For the most modern varieties, it also helps if the artist
lived like a slob and committed suicide.
Any forgiveness for a lack of skill and craftsmanship is due to a
temporary surrender to fashion.
>
...no skill no art...
Tired of Modern Art? Check out my web page
gaynorgallagher
to put down all art that was not pure Clement Greenberg abstraction but also
ends with how today this is NOT the only way to look at the situation. it
now depends what you do with it. so if you've got it flaunt it.
http://www.city-journal.org/html/9_1_urbanities_kitsch_and_the.html
and some links to go with it.
http://192.211.16.13/curricular/barking/vkitsch.htm
some of which are dead unfortunately
gaynor
JSA
> I think that some of the greatest art ever produced is Kitsch.
> Raphael, Dutch flower painting and three quarters of the best
> religious art etc are kitsch by today's standards.
These could be considered Kitsch by a crackpot only. The framed
holographic print of the Mona Lisa ($2.50) I have in my kitchen is
Kitsch, not the original. Stop redefining terms in order to bang your
drum.
> As an imperative, the term kitsch really means ignore anything that
> shows exceptional superior skill and craft. Once this tabu label is
> attached to any artwork by the modern academic theologian one should
> expect no further discussion on the matter. In this sense Kitsch is
> equivalent to blasphemy. All artwork so labeled is then excommunicated
> from any holy place showing Modern Academic Art.
> A few results of the dreaded kitsch label are books on Surrealism with
> no mention of Dali and slanted Modern Academic Art history which
> totally ignores the work of 19th century academic masters.
>
> Of course when Picasso and anyone who is as poor a draftsman tries to
> produce kitsch the result is abomination (Mother and child, dove of
> peace, Paolo and the donkey etc.) Artzy fartzies label this sort of
> over the couch crap as "self expression."
>
> Here is my definition of Modern academic painted non-kitsch: it
> exhibits lousy draftsmanship, no craftsmanship and looks like a put-on
> that few would rescue from a trash heap if it lacked a coveted
> signature. For the most modern varieties, it also helps if the artist
> lived like a slob and committed suicide.
It must be 40 years since Kitsch was used by modernists as a weapon to
denegrate conservative painting.
> Any forgiveness for a lack of skill and craftsmanship is due to a
> temporary surrender to fashion.
Picasso is hardly fashionable at the moment.
Regards,
JSA
mdeli
wrote:
> (mdeli) wrote: I think that some of the greatest art ever produced is Kitsch.
>> Raphael, Dutch flower painting and three quarters of the best
>> religious art etc are kitsch by today's standards.
>
>These could be considered Kitsch by a crackpot only. The framed
>holographic print of the Mona Lisa ($2.50) I have in my kitchen is
>Kitsch, not the original. Stop redefining terms in order to bang your
>drum.
I didn't define Kitsch.
>It must be 40 years since Kitsch was used by modernists as a weapon to
>denegrate conservative painting.
Perhaps you haven't read a newspaper in forty years.
>
>> Any forgiveness for a lack of skill and craftsmanship is due to a
>> temporary surrender to fashion.
>
>Picasso is hardly fashionable at the moment.
>
Tell that to some of the artzy fartzies here and check out some
auction prices.
ww Bracken
And you would see that you are the kitch of today
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