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Tony W.

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Mar 9, 2004, 3:47:13 PM3/9/04
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What can I do to alleviate the uneven sheen on my water-mixable oil paintings?

Chris

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Mar 9, 2004, 6:00:37 PM3/9/04
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"Tony W." <tony...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> What can I do to alleviate the uneven sheen on my water-mixable oil
paintings?

Have you tried varnishing the finished painting? It also occurs with regular
oil paints, and it's one of the reasons for varnishing once you are done.

Chris


Tony W.

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Mar 9, 2004, 10:00:33 PM3/9/04
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Thanks, Chris.

No, I haven't tried that, because the paintings are supposed to dry for
six months first. I need a solution now, because I'm trying to get the
paintings into a gallery now.

Do you have any other suggestions?

Tony

Chris

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Mar 9, 2004, 10:24:21 PM3/9/04
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"Tony W." <tony...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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You can try retouch varnish; it's made to bring up the gloss on dried areas
so that a painter can work with a more even looking surface. You have to be
able to apply it very thinly (it's not a continuous protective coating like
permanent varnish); there's a number of spray products available if you
don't feel comfortable doing this with a brush (I use spray :). There's no
guarantee w/r to the permanence of the gloss; you should still make
arrangements to varnish the paintings 6 months or so down the road.But it
should do for a while.

Jax can probably fill you in more (if he's still in the room, so to speak.).

Good luck.

Chris

> Tony


walnut earl

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Mar 9, 2004, 10:32:36 PM3/9/04
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 03:00:33 GMT, "Tony W." <tony...@hotmail.com>
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> I need a solution now, because I'm trying to get the
>paintings into a gallery now.

Spray retouch varnish. It fades a bit over time, but by the time that
it does, it's usuall fine to hit it with damar or Kamar.

Mani Deli

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Mar 9, 2004, 11:37:01 PM3/9/04
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On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 19:00:37 -0400, "Chris" <n...@this.address> wrote:

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>"Tony W." <tony...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> What can I do to alleviate the uneven sheen on my water-mixable oil
>paintings?
>

Try a very thin coat of modeling paste, very thin. Check that its even
when dry. If not add another. It will also restore the ground and
take further coats evenly.

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Mike Stengl

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Mar 10, 2004, 10:28:03 AM3/10/04
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Mani Deli <ma...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<sk6t40dvmlvrlb2kt...@4ax.com>...

> On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 19:00:37 -0400, "Chris" <n...@this.address> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Tony W." <tony...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >> What can I do to alleviate the uneven sheen on my water-mixable oil
> >paintings?
> >
> Try a very thin coat of modeling paste, very thin. Check that its even
> when dry. If not add another. It will also restore the ground and
> take further coats evenly.

I had never heard of modeling paste. Did a search and found 'Liquitex
Acrylic MOdeling Paste'. Suggested use as a ground for oil or acrylic
painting then this "Modeling paste should not be used over or mixed
directly with oil or oil painting materials."

Flobby Bischer

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Mar 10, 2004, 11:07:02 AM3/10/04
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correct, NEVER use modelling paste or any other acrylic medium over oil
based medium.


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Flobby Bischer

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Mar 10, 2004, 11:07:38 AM3/10/04
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A thin layer of damar can dry in one or two days.


Chris

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Mar 10, 2004, 11:34:17 AM3/10/04
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"Flobby Bischer" <blube...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> A thin layer of damar can dry in one or two days.
>
>

The problem with using a regular damar varnish is exactly that - it dries
much faster than the oil painting underneath; hence the issue re. possible
cracking.

Retouch varnish (which is also made with damar), is much thinner than
regular damar varnish, so it doesn't suffer from that problem.

Chris


Tony W.

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Mar 10, 2004, 11:51:29 AM3/10/04
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I assume that one shouldn't paint over the retouch varnish?

Would the retouch varnish have to be removed before a final varnish is applied?

Tony

Mani Deli

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Mar 10, 2004, 3:51:05 PM3/10/04
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My mistake I didn't read the title carefully and assumed you were
using acrylics.


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keith o'connor

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Mar 10, 2004, 5:25:28 PM3/10/04
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Retouch varnish is used to even out the sheen so that when you add fresh
paint to make adjustments to a previous painting the sheen (light
reflection) from the previously applied paint matches that of the fresh
paint.

Yes you can varnish over it in the future

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of art is based upon the application of tendencies and as such creates more
variety of interpretation between people than absolute agreement between
people.
Keith O'Connor


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Chris

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"Tony W." <tony...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Chris wrote:
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> I assume that one shouldn't paint over the retouch varnish?
>
> Would the retouch varnish have to be removed before a final varnish is
applied?
>

You can paint - or varnish - over retouch varnish without problems (provided
you put it on reasonably thinly), it's made for that.. You can also use
several layers of it, one over the other, in case one doesn't do the trick.
All things in moderation of course - and the usual caveats re be sure to
test it on work you aren't too interested in first.

Cheers;

Chris


Tony W.

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Mar 11, 2004, 10:21:48 PM3/11/04
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Thanks, Chris and Keith.

Can matte, gloss and satin retouch varnishes all be sprayed onto the
same water-mixable oil painting?

Tony

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