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Herbert Ward

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Nov 18, 2002, 12:31:36 PM11/18/02
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What would make a nice white paint for highlights on graphite pencil
drawings?

I currently use liquid correction fluid (white-out). But, I was
wondering what else would be good.

Tina Mammoser

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Nov 18, 2002, 4:54:38 PM11/18/02
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White pastel (chalk or oil) - white conte crayons - acrylic or goache
paint - white coloured pencil. :)

Tina.

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Sharr Truce

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Nov 18, 2002, 7:21:39 PM11/18/02
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In article <16ce5857.02111...@posting.google.com>,
wa...@physics.utexas.edu says...

>
>What would make a nice white paint for highlights on graphite pencil
>drawings?

The PAPER. I personally would never use
a white "paint" of any kind to highlight
graphite drawings. Let the white of the
paper do the talking for you.


Herbert Ward

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Nov 19, 2002, 1:00:41 PM11/19/02
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> The PAPER. I personally would never use
> a white "paint" of any kind to highlight
> graphite drawings. Let the white of the
> paper do the talking for you.

I use white-out in very small dabs (1-3 square mm). Like a candle in
a faraway window. Or a few stars. I think it's effective, tasteful,
and non-obtrusive this way, as well as convenient and easy.

I'd wouldn't use macroscopic (large) patches of it. The texture
discontinuity would be icky and disconcerting. As you say, the paper
is brilliant enough for a moon or lit window.

Goethe Helen Waite

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Nov 19, 2002, 4:07:32 PM11/19/02
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In article <16ce5857.02111...@posting.google.com>,

I have seen white out on original pen and ink drawings by cartoonists
(eg. Gary Trudeau). But, I don't think it works for a fine art application
or for pencil.

May consider something like gouache or white pencil (waxy). The best
tack is to plan ahead and keep those white areas white by not drawing on
them in the first place.
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Sharr Truce

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Nov 19, 2002, 6:41:50 PM11/19/02
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> I think it's effective, tasteful,


>and non-obtrusive this way, as well as convenient and easy.

If it works for you, that's all that matters.
Going back to your original question then,
I'd use an acrylic white in place of the
white-out, which is mostly chalk, I think.
Then there is traditional Chinese white used
by watercolorists - of course no purist
would use it in watercolor - but like your
uses, if it's effective for you, that's what
matters.

Sharr Truce

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Nov 19, 2002, 6:44:51 PM11/19/02
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In article <1037740052.322311@smirk>, e...@idiom.com says...


>May consider something like gouache or white pencil (waxy). The best
>tack is to plan ahead and keep those white areas white by not drawing on
>them in the first place.

That's the purist's approach. I failed to
mention that it's easy to keep the white
paper white if one first applies a masque,
often referred to as Frisket in the art
trade. One can use ordinary rubber cement
but the Frisket is designed specifically
for easy removal with a gummy eraser once
the work is complete - or whenever one
wants to uncover the masked area.

Erik A. Mattila

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Nov 19, 2002, 9:38:28 PM11/19/02
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Herbert, try Higgens Super White. You can buy it on-line if you can't
find it locally. Here's a URL.

http://www.discountart.com/store/higgins-drawing-ink.html

Scroll down to bottom of page. We used to use this (and competing
products) regularly in graphic arts and printing before everything went
to computers. Great stuff, and not carcenogenic like typewriter "white
out."

Erik

Goethe Helen Waite

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Nov 20, 2002, 2:23:57 PM11/20/02
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In article <3ddac...@oracle.zianet.com>,


Frisket is great stuff, but if you are doing a pencil drawing, there's
a chance of accidentally gumming up pencil and ooblick.

I have used it in watercolor a good bit. One thing I learned the hard way
was to get the stuff off the paper within a few days, otherwise it magically
turns into The Creature That Eats Paper. I wonder what's up with that?

Sharr Truce

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Nov 20, 2002, 7:15:07 PM11/20/02
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In article <1037820236.670156@smirk>, e...@idiom.com says...


>I have used it in watercolor a good bit. One thing I learned the hard way
>was to get the stuff off the paper within a few days, otherwise it magically
>turns into The Creature That Eats Paper. I wonder what's up with that?

Misket, frisket, tisket a tasket!

I think the worst is using rubber cement.
I guess maybe because it's solvent based.
Most of the friskets made for artist use
are water based. For the purpose of the
current discussion at hand, where the person
who posted the question is dealing with
small dots they want to keep pristine white,
I would not use a "pickup eraser" but rather
something more - ummmm - to the point?


Erik A. Mattila

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Nov 20, 2002, 7:36:24 PM11/20/02
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But using rubber cement is a good career move, since your work will
increase in value when you're dead. As well, the net effect of the
hexanes and heptanes on the nervous system lead directly to great
inspiration.

What pisses me off, though, is that a kid today can't buy an actual
metal "Erector Set" with a geared motor that can grind off the end of
your finger, and nuts and bolts that you can swallow. We've raised a
generation of people who have no concept of "safe use" since it is now
built into our products. So back to rubber cement - it is about the best
masking material I've ever used, with or without a frisket. Is the
health risk too high? Probably. We need a risk/benefit study here, and
a gas-mask.

Erik

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