more death, please
Phantasm
and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need more
likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unquite dead.
Hulahoop
Assuming this is not some form of trollery - I take your point about
it not being minor characters. I always used to laugh when watching
Star Trek TOS when it was obvious that unknown security person on away
mission was going to die, usually in some horrible fashion.
It won't happen though as it loses its impact if someone major dies
too often
Ignis Fatuus
The biggest let-down of the series was the moment when the Dalek
bottled out of zapping Rose.
Raffalo Jabe and Gwyneth were pretty substantial characters who met a
grizzly end. The first series had a pretty high casualty rate among
female characters. I still wish Lynda (wiv a wy) had been rescued. She
could have been an excellent companion.
Cassandra, the Face of Boe, Jackie II, a substantial portion of the
Family of Blood cast, Chantho, The Master, Astrid...
I think the series has notched up a fairly substantial casualty list.
ZARBIFACE
The 10th Doctor dies at Christmas. Is that high profile enough for you?
The Doctor
Give it up!
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Ici doc...@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
Never Satan President Republic!
If you cannot lead a family how can you pastor a church?
The Doctor
Monsieur Tabernac
Who can predict the future, but you may be disappointed with Steven
"Everybody Lives" Moffatt taking over the show.
The Doctor
ZARBIFACE
Perhaps Phantasm doesn't understand that Doctor Who is a family show.
It's not an adult misery-fest like Battlestar Galactica.
The Face of Po
Phantasm got out a spraycan and scrawled the following:
> i am firmly of the opinion that doctor who needs more death in it.
> and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need more
> likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unquite dead.
We need people to die before they're described as being dead, so that we
don't keep getting fed crap like Rose' "this is the day that I died".
Memory wiping != death
Temporary exile to parallel universe != death
Remembering alternate self vanishing along with an entire divergent
timeline != death
--
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Stephen O'Connell
> The first series had a pretty high casualty rate among female
> characters. I still wish Lynda (wiv a wy) had been rescued. She
> could have been an excellent companion.
I'm starting to get to the point where I wish the Daleks would arrive in
Albert Square and exterminate her character in that as well. Tanya is so
annoying!
Stephen O'Connell
>
> We need people to die before they're described as being dead, so that
> we don't keep getting fed crap like Rose' "this is the day that I
> died".
The biggest cheat ever!
There I was thinking that the bitch was going to die and what did we
get? Just a weepy goodbye! Still, "this is the day that I died" was a
fairly dramatic way to start an episode. It had me hooked. So from that
point of view, it worked. But at the end of the story, I did get the
feeling that i'd been cheated.
Stephen Wilson
"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:h08ei5$ikc$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> In article <taef25dg3tfgpd6m0...@4ax.com>,
> Monsieur Tabernac <mtab...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>>On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 22:36:08 -0700 (PDT), Phantasm
>><forb...@dangerous-minds.com> wrote:
>>
>>>i am firmly of the opinion that doctor who needs more death in it.
>>>and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need more
>>>likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unquite dead.
>>
>>Who can predict the future, but you may be disappointed with Steven
>>"Everybody Lives" Moffatt taking over the show.
>
> now to get SM to stop beign a Social Darwinist.
Is that meant to mean anything?
Stephen Wilson
> In article <Yb-dnXuZQu9BH7rX...@bt.com>,
> ZARBIFACE <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>Phantasm wrote:
>>> i am firmly of the opinion that doctor who needs more death in it.
>>> and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need more
>>> likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unquite dead.
>>
>>The 10th Doctor dies at Christmas. Is that high profile enough for you?
>>
>
> Must you troll?
Are you saying that David Tennant is staying on? We all know he isn't. So
you're trolling. Why?
Mr.Smartypants
<stephen.wilson2004nos...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:h08ei5$ikc$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>
> > Monsieur Tabernac <mtaber...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
> >>On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 22:36:08 -0700 (PDT), Phantasm
> >><forbid...@dangerous-minds.com> wrote:
>
> >>>i am firmly of the opinion that doctor who needs more death in it.
> >>>and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need more
> >>>likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unquite dead.
>
> >>Who can predict the future, but you may be disappointed with Steven
> >>"Everybody Lives" Moffatt taking over the show.
>
> > now to get SM to stop beign a Social Darwinist.
>
> Is that meant to mean anything?
Only to trolling twats,............of which there is only ONE on RADW
at present.
Mr.Smartypants
<stephen.wilson2004nos...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:h08del$7vp$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>
> > ZARBIFACE <alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>Phantasm wrote:
> >>> i am firmly of the opinion that doctor who needs more death in it.
> >>> and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need more
> >>> likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unquite dead.
>
> >>The 10th Doctor dies at Christmas. Is that high profile enough for you?
>
> > Must you troll?
>
> Are you saying that David Tennant is staying on? We all know he isn't. So
> you're trolling. Why?
Why does a fish swim?.....why does a frog jump?.....it's what they do.
That's why trolls troll.
sadako
I wonder if like fish and frogs, the troll has any natural predators
likely to eat them alive?
Ignis Fatuus
Even Babs couldn't persuade me to watch it - but I remember her
character fondly as one of the lost gems of DW.
Hulahoop
>
> - Show quoted text -
I seem to recall that they don't like Big Billy Goats
Regards
Ged
sadako
>
> - Show quoted text -
Can we mail order one to eat Yads then? :)
sadako
To be perfectly honest I don't think lots of death is a requirement in
Doctor Who, or in any sci-fi series. There's always a desire to make
it 'darker' but I don't think darker necessarily means better.
Battlestar Galactica is a 'dark' show but I find it so difficult to
watch or feel any good will or sympathy for any of it. Likewise the
best Star Trek film was the light-hearted one with the whales. City of
Death and Snakedance are classic stories with minimal collateral,
Warriors of the Deep and Resurrection of the Daleks both rack up the
body counts and both of them are a piece of shit.
No don't get me wrong, dark and bleak can make for good drama and good
Doctor Who (i.e. Inferno, Genesis of the Daleks, Horror of Fang Rock,
Dalek), but first and foremost its about the quality of writing and
what the author is comfortable writing about, not the death toll. The
death toll should be a completely natural and organic byproduct of the
writing and plotting, not something indulged or inserted in
gratuitously.
The Doctor
RTD blunders again! Still PArting of the Ways, Rose Tyler reverses
the deaths of all involved IMHO.
The Doctor
>
>Is that meant to mean anything?
>
>
>
You don't know what a Socail Darwinist is?
The Doctor
No trolling here. Just a flame thread here.
The Doctor
Mr.Smartypants <bunghol...@lycos.com> wrote:
>On Jun 4, 5:28=A0pm, "Stephen Wilson"
><stephen.wilson2004nos...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>
>> news:h08ei5$ikc$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>
>> > In article <taef25dg3tfgpd6m028d6i0g2g8pspl...@4ax.com>,
>> >>On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 22:36:08 -0700 (PDT), Phantasm
>> >><forbid...@dangerous-minds.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>>i am firmly of the opinion that doctor who needs more death in it.
>> >>>and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need more
>> >>>likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unquite dead.
>>
>> >>Who can predict the future, but you may be disappointed with Steven
>> >>"Everybody Lives" Moffatt taking over the show.
>>
>> > now to get SM to stop beign a Social Darwinist.
>>
>> Is that meant to mean anything?
>
>
>
>Only to trolling twats,............of which there is only ONE on RADW
>at present.
Troll on goosestepping chronic liar.
The Doctor
Mr.Smartypants <bunghol...@lycos.com> wrote:
>On Jun 4, 5:29=A0pm, "Stephen Wilson"
><stephen.wilson2004nos...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>
>> news:h08del$7vp$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>
>> > In article <Yb-dnXuZQu9BH7rXnZ2dnUVZ8nBi4...@bt.com>,
>> >>Phantasm wrote:
>> >>> i am firmly of the opinion that doctor who needs more death in it.
>> >>> and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need more
>> >>> likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unquite dead.
>>
>> >>The 10th Doctor dies at Christmas. Is that high profile enough for you?
>>
>> > Must you troll?
>>
>> Are you saying that David Tennant is staying on? We all know he isn't. So
>> you're trolling. Why?
>
>
>Why does a fish swim?.....why does a frog jump?.....it's what they do.
>That's why trolls troll.
>
Said troll Ron Hamilton.
The Doctor
sadako <tom...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>On 5 June, 00:36, "Mr.Smartypants" <bunghole-jon...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <stephen.wilson2004nos...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> > "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>
>> >news:h08del$7vp$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>
>> > > In article <Yb-dnXuZQu9BH7rXnZ2dnUVZ8nBi4...@bt.com>,
>> > >>Phantasm wrote:
>> > >>> i am firmly of the opinion that doctor who needs more death in it.
>> > >>> and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need more
>d.
>>
>> > >>The 10th Doctor dies at Christmas. Is that high profile enough for yo=
>u?
>>
>> > > Must you troll?
>>
>> > Are you saying that David Tennant is staying on? We all know he isn't. =
>So
>> > you're trolling. Why?
>>
>> Why does a fish swim?.....why does a frog jump?.....it's what they do.
>> That's why trolls troll.
>
>
>I wonder if like fish and frogs, the troll has any natural predators
>likely to eat them alive?
Anti-trolls like me.
The Doctor
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 5 June, 00:36, "Mr.Smartypants" <bunghole-jon...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> > > <stephen.wilson2004nos...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> > > > "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>
>> > > >news:h08del$7vp$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>
>> > > > > In article <Yb-dnXuZQu9BH7rXnZ2dnUVZ8nBi4...@bt.com>,
>it.
>> > > > >>> and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need m=
>ore
>> > > > >>> likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unquite=
> dead.
>>
>> > > > >>The 10th Doctor dies at Christmas. Is that high profile enough fo=
>r you?
>>
>> > > > > Must you troll?
>>
>'t. So
>> > > > you're trolling. Why?
>>
>.
>> > > That's why trolls troll.
>>
>> > I wonder if like fish and frogs, the troll has any natural predators
>> > likely to eat them alive?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> I seem to recall that they don't like Big Billy Goats
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Ged- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Can we mail order one to eat Yads then? :)
I stew goats!
sadako
> In article <f4824a53-26dd-4bd9-b844-85bb59861...@p4g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
>
> - Show quoted text -
So you're a troll AND an anti-troll.
Could we possibly ask you to do the decent thing and eat YOURSELF for
the greater good of the group?
Ignis Fatuus
Before or after you've eaten them ?
The Doctor
>com>,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> sadako =A0<tom...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >On 5 June, 00:36, "Mr.Smartypants" <bunghole-jon...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> <stephen.wilson2004nos...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> >> > "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >news:h08del$7vp$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>
>> >> > > In article <Yb-dnXuZQu9BH7rXnZ2dnUVZ8nBi4...@bt.com>,
>t.
>> >> > >>> and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need mo=
>re
>> >> > >>> likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unquite =
>dea=3D
>> >d.
>>
>> >> > >>The 10th Doctor dies at Christmas. Is that high profile enough for=
> yo=3D
>> >u?
>>
>> >> > > Must you troll?
>>
>> >> > Are you saying that David Tennant is staying on? We all know he isn'=
>t. =3D
>> >So
>> >> > you're trolling. Why?
>>
>> >> Why does a fish swim?.....why does a frog jump?.....it's what they do.
>> >> That's why trolls troll.
>>
>> >I wonder if like fish and frogs, the troll has any natural predators
>> >likely to eat them alive?
>>
>> Anti-trolls like me.
>> --
>> Ici doc...@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
>> Never Satan President Republic!
>t -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>So you're a troll AND an anti-troll.
>
>Could we possibly ask you to do the decent thing and eat YOURSELF for
>the greater good of the group?
TRoll on tom80s!
sadako
> In article <002d2104-007b-45c7-a97f-ef198ecc1...@e20g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
>
> - Show quoted text -
I'll take that as a 'no' then.
Looks like we'll have to get someone else to eat you then.
peachy ashie passion
In the tradition of "he who smelt it dealt it", you thought it up,
YOU do it!
ZARBIFACE
I've never understood some fans affection for Lynda with a fucking Y.
She was a bland character that had nothing going for her apart from the
emphasis on her name. The Daleks did us a favour.
ZARBIFACE
See, I post on topic and Yads STILL claims I'm trolling. More proof that
HE is the troll.
Yadallee, if you knew anything about the show you claim to be a fan of
you'll know I was telling the truth.
Ignis Fatuus
It was Lynda WIV a Y; and she just happened to be - potentially - a
much more interesting character than Rose. At least she was played by
an actress, and not a 'personality' mouthing lines.
ZARBIFACE
> On 5 June, 03:43, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> In article <f4824a53-26dd-4bd9-b844-85bb59861...@p4g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
>
>> Anti-trolls like me.
No one likes you.
sadako
> i am firmly of the opinion that doctor who needs more death in it.
> and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need more
> likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unquite dead.
I'm reposting the following to try and put the thread back on topic
after Yads' usual filthy trollage....
The Doctor
>.com>,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> sadako =A0<tom...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >On 5 June, 03:43, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>ps.=3D
>> >com>,
>>
>> >> sadako =3DA0<tom...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> >On 5 June, 00:36, "Mr.Smartypants" <bunghole-jon...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> <stephen.wilson2004nos...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >> >news:h08del$7vp$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>
>> >> >> > > In article <Yb-dnXuZQu9BH7rXnZ2dnUVZ8nBi4...@bt.com>,
>n i=3D
>> >t.
>> >> >> > >>> and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need=
> mo=3D
>> >re
>> >> >> > >>> likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unqui=
>te =3D
>> >dea=3D3D
>> >> >d.
>>
>> >> >> > >>The 10th Doctor dies at Christmas. Is that high profile enough =
>for=3D
>> > yo=3D3D
>> >> >u?
>>
>> >> >> > > Must you troll?
>>
>> >> >> > Are you saying that David Tennant is staying on? We all know he i=
>sn'=3D
>> >t. =3D3D
>> >> >So
>> >> >> > you're trolling. Why?
>>
>do.
>> >> >> That's why trolls troll.
>>
>> >> >I wonder if like fish and frogs, the troll has any natural predators
>> >> >likely to eat them alive?
>>
>> >> Anti-trolls like me.
>> >> --
>> >> Ici doc...@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ risin=
>g!
>> >> Never Satan President Republic!
>tex=3D
>> >t -
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> >So you're a troll AND an anti-troll.
>>
>> >Could we possibly ask you to do the decent thing and eat YOURSELF for
>> >the greater good of the group?
>>
>> TRoll on tom80s!
>> --
>> Member - Liberal International =A0This is doc...@nl2k.ab.ca
>> Ici doc...@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
>> Never Satan President Republic!
>> If you cannot lead a family how can you pastor a church?- Hide quoted tex=
>t -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>
>Looks like we'll have to get someone else to eat you then.
Hopefully your appetite will disappear when eaten.
The Doctor
The Doctor
The Doctor
sadako <tom...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>On 4 June, 06:36, Phantasm <forbid...@dangerous-minds.com> wrote:
>> i am firmly of the opinion that doctor who needs more death in it.
>> and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need more
>> likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unquite dead.
>
>I'm reposting the following to try and put the thread back on topic
>after Yads' usual filthy trollage....
>
>To be perfectly honest I don't think lots of death is a requirement
>in
>Doctor Who, or in any sci-fi series. There's always a desire to make
>it 'darker' but I don't think darker necessarily means better.
>Battlestar Galactica is a 'dark' show but I find it so difficult to
>watch or feel any good will or sympathy for any of it. Likewise the
>best Star Trek film was the light-hearted one with the whales. City
>of
>Death and Snakedance are classic stories with minimal collateral,
Snakedance?? UGH!! Why was this the S20 notable
I will never know.
sadako
> In article <c08cb8eb-0c7f-4622-b843-834a2d142...@a7g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
>
> - Show quoted text -
Who the fuck asked you, troll? Maybe you didn't read my message
properly but I specifically said no trolls are allowed to join in this
discussion so fuck off!!
Ignis Fatuus
The Doctor
sadako <tom...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>On Jun 5, 2:59=A0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> In article <c08cb8eb-0c7f-4622-b843-834a2d142...@a7g2000yqk.googlegroups.=
>com>,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> sadako =A0<tom...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >On 4 June, 06:36, Phantasm <forbid...@dangerous-minds.com> wrote:
>> >> i am firmly of the opinion that doctor who needs more death in it.
>> >> and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need more
>> >> likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unquite dead.
>>
>> >I'm reposting the following to try and put the thread back on topic
>> >after Yads' usual filthy trollage....
>>
>> >To be perfectly honest I don't think lots of death is a requirement
>> >in
>> >Doctor Who, or in any sci-fi series. There's always a desire to make
>> >it 'darker' but I don't think darker necessarily means better.
>> >Battlestar Galactica is a 'dark' show but I find it so difficult to
>> >watch or feel any good will or sympathy for any of it. Likewise the
>> >best Star Trek film was the light-hearted one with the whales. City
>> >of
>> >Death and Snakedance are classic stories with minimal collateral,
>>
>> I will never know.
>> --
>> Ici doc...@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
>> Never Satan President Republic!
>t -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>properly but I specifically said no trolls are allowed to join in this
Thus trolled anti-social troll Tom80s the SadTrollster!
Stephen O'Connell
> In article <h09jke$5s8$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Stephen O'Connell <no....@fk.u.com> wrote:
>> Ignis Fatuus wrote:
>>> The first series had a pretty high casualty rate among female
>>> characters. I still wish Lynda (wiv a wy) had been rescued. She
>>> could have been an excellent companion.
>>
>> I'm starting to get to the point where I wish the Daleks would
>> arrive in Albert Square and exterminate her character in that as
>> well. Tanya is so annoying!
>
> RTD blunders again! Still PArting of the Ways, Rose Tyler reverses
> the deaths of all involved IMHO.
Good point Doc! Yes Jack comes back to life, after being exterminated,
so does that mean that they all did? Or was Jack just 'special'?
Stephen O'Connell
> sadako wrote:
>>
>> Looks like we'll have to get someone else to eat you then.
>
> In the tradition of "he who smelt it dealt it", you thought it up,
> YOU do it!
I'm sorry peachy, but the image of Dave eating himself is not one that I
want to conjure up in to my brain at teatime, thanks!
The Face of Po
Stephen O'Connell got out a spraycan and scrawled the following:
I'd assumed it was just Jack, because of how much the show focused on
him and none of the others. But as the Doctor hasn't been back to the
year 200k since, we've never had a chance to see if a small collection
of Satellite 5 employees had become immortal.
--
Happiness will prevail
#14 Aggy's RADW ruiners list - JLqdnfnfr4HTXofX...@eclipse.net.uk
Stephen O'Connell
Why would Rose create life and then only bring one person back? What
about poor Lynda wiv a Y, or the guy that won The Weakest Link and never
got his money? Or the two Satellite 5 employees who fancied each other?
Aren't they 'special' too?
Monsieur Tabernac
I got the impression that she brought back everyone on Earth too, as
the entire planet seemed to have been destroyed (most of the
continents were wiped out). Otherwise, there would be future
repercussions, so a patented RTD-Reset-Switch (tm) was required.
Maybe Jack got special treatment because she fancied him?
john smith
Uber-troll, more like!
john smith
"sadako" <tom...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:585590b3-3746-435a...@u10g2000vbd.googlegroups.com...
How about Zombo?
http://www.2000adreview.co.uk/site/index.php/2000AD-2008-2009/2000AD-1634.html
The Doctor
Exactly what I want to know. I specualate Rose canncelled out the Daleks
exterminatoins.
The Doctor
The Doctor
You befreind trolls john smith.
The Doctor
Time for a hunter's trophy to go up.
john smith
Like your head mounted on a plaque?
john smith
Ugh! I don't *want* to be your friend, you religious nutcase...
The Doctor
Right application, wrong idea.
The Doctor
I am **no** troll john smith firned of trols.
--
peachy ashie passion
Nor I, but I find it an improvement on the image of anyone else doing it.
sadako
wrote:
Maybe it'd be better all round if it was done by a close friend of
his.
You know what they say.... 'a friend in gravy is a friend indeed'
Mr.Smartypants
> In article <0f4de07e-e012-4ef3-9730-0c6156c0a...@x6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> sadako <tom...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >On 5 June, 01:52, Hulahoop <sweeney...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Jun 5, 9:50=A0am, sadako <tom...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> > On 5 June, 00:36, "Mr.Smartypants" <bunghole-jon...@lycos.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > On Jun 4, 5:29=A0pm, "Stephen Wilson"
>
> >> > > <stephen.wilson2004nos...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >> > > > "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>
> >> > > >news:h08del$7vp$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>
> >> > > > > In article <Yb-dnXuZQu9BH7rXnZ2dnUVZ8nBi4...@bt.com>,
> >> > > > > ZARBIFACE =A0<alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> > > > >>Phantasm wrote:
> >it.
> >> > > > >>> and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need m=
> >ore
> >> > > > >>> likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unquite=
> > dead.
>
> >> > > > >>The 10th Doctor dies at Christmas. Is that high profile enough fo=
> >r you?
>
> >> > > > > Must you troll?
>
> >> > > > Are you saying that David Tennant is staying on? We all know he isn=
> >'t. So
> >> > > > you're trolling. Why?
>
> >> > > Why does a fish swim?.....why does a frog jump?.....it's what they do=
> >.
> >> > > That's why trolls troll.
>
> >> > I wonder if like fish and frogs, the troll has any natural predators
>
> >> > - Show quoted text -
>
>
> >> Regards
>
> >> Ged- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
>
> I screw goats!
> --
I know you do.
> Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nl2k.ab.ca
> Ici doc...@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
> Never Satan President Republic!
Soze
> On 4 June, 06:36, Phantasm <forbid...@dangerous-minds.com> wrote:
>> i am firmly of the opinion that doctor who needs more death in it.
>> and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need more
>> likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unquite dead.
>
> To be perfectly honest I don't think lots of death is a requirement in
> Doctor Who, or in any sci-fi series. There's always a desire to make
> it 'darker' but I don't think darker necessarily means better.
> Battlestar Galactica is a 'dark' show but I find it so difficult to
> watch or feel any good will or sympathy for any of it. Likewise the
> best Star Trek film was the light-hearted one with the whales. City of
> Death and Snakedance are classic stories with minimal collateral,
> body counts and both of them are a piece of shit.
>
> No don't get me wrong, dark and bleak can make for good drama and good
> Doctor Who (i.e. Inferno, Genesis of the Daleks, Horror of Fang Rock,
> Dalek), but first and foremost its about the quality of writing and
> what the author is comfortable writing about, not the death toll. The
> death toll should be a completely natural and organic byproduct of the
> writing and plotting, not something indulged or inserted in
> gratuitously.
Well, I think BSG is the best genre show of the last 10 years or so
personally...I was pretty much gripped by it every week. I do like "dark"
drama, where the heroes don`t always win and often come off much the worse
for wear. But I don`t think this suits Dr Who very well at all. Being that
it has a sizeable child audience it`ll always have the good guys winning,
the Doctor being whiter than white, generally strong morals etc.
That said...some of the recurring villains do see their threat diminished by
always being beaten! I would like to see an episode which really make the
daleks or The Master terrifying, where they totally succeed in their
ambitions. But I realise this isn`t really feasible for the show. The best
that could be done is having a Doctor Lite ( or Doctor Gone! ) episode early
in the season which just features the daleks and has them completely and
utterly victorious. And then later in the season this "prelude" could be
resolved in a 2 parter where the Doctor beats them again. At least this way
we`d see a 45 minute standalone ( of sorts ) episode which makes them a
viable threat again. A bit like they did with Daleks Masterplan I suppose.
Going back to the earlier point ( or I could just be rambling as random
thoughts flitter through my brain ) I think Blake`s 7 managed to pull off
being both dark and camp at the same time in a way no other show before or
since has ever done.
The Doctor
Mr.Smartypants <bunghol...@lycos.com> wrote:
>On Jun 4, 8:46=A0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> In article <0f4de07e-e012-4ef3-9730-0c6156c0a...@x6g2000vbg.googlegroups.=
>com>,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> sadako =A0<tom...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >On 5 June, 01:52, Hulahoop <sweeney...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > On 5 June, 00:36, "Mr.Smartypants" <bunghole-jon...@lycos.com> wrote=
>:
>>
>> >> > > On Jun 4, 5:29=3DA0pm, "Stephen Wilson"
>>
>> >> > > <stephen.wilson2004nos...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> >> > > > "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>
>> >> > > >news:h08del$7vp$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>
>> >> > > > > In article <Yb-dnXuZQu9BH7rXnZ2dnUVZ8nBi4...@bt.com>,
>in =3D
>> >it.
>> >> > > > >>> and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we nee=
>d m=3D
>> >ore
>> >> > > > >>> likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unqu=
>ite=3D
>> > dead.
>>
>> >> > > > >>The 10th Doctor dies at Christmas. Is that high profile enough=
> fo=3D
>> >r you?
>>
>> >> > > > > Must you troll?
>>
>isn=3D
>> >'t. So
>> >> > > > you're trolling. Why?
>>
> do=3D
>> >.
>> >> > > That's why trolls troll.
>>
>> >> > I wonder if like fish and frogs, the troll has any natural predators
>> >> > likely to eat them alive?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> >> I seem to recall that they don't like Big Billy Goats
>>
>> >> Regards
>>
>> >> Ged- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> >Can we mail order one to eat Yads then? :)
>>
>> I screw goats!
>> --
>
>
>I know you do.
>
>
TRying a Tom80s are you?
--
sadako
I must admit that when I started watching Battlestar Galactica, Mike
Morris' rather harsh evaluation of it (coupled with his scathing
snobbery towards its fans) was always at the back of my mind and
perhaps that spoiled some of the enjoyment of it. I think the
miniseries was superb, as was the Razor telemovie, Season One was
pretty strong stuff if rather humourless and melodramatic but there
were one or two stories that were duds for me and which were so
melodramtic that they were rather offputting (namely that episode
about the tribunal which became a witch hunt, Tigh Me Up and Tigh Me
Down I must say I found quite misogynistic, and I do recall finding
the prison episode rather too unpleasant, I felt that story really
didn't need that nasty scene where one of the prisoners tries to rape
Cally). Season Two was where I started to warm to it a lot more,
particularly when the Pegasus and Admiral Cain arrived on the scene.
To me that was a real step up that made me feel far more engaged. I
also really loved the episode Scar, that was a gem.
Then I got onto Season Three and I must say this is where I got
stopped. Much of the occupation arc just struck me as needlessly mean
spirited and whats more it took the characters into directions that I
just couldn't believe in, I didn't feel there were sincere motivations
behind the terrible things the characters did, especially when it came
to Tigh committing matricide. Once the occupation arc was over it just
grew increasingly dull, and indulgent of the self-absorbed characters
who became increasingly impossible to like. The character arc of Gaias
Baltar kept me hanging in there, particularly when it finally came to
his trial, but after that I felt no desire at all to buy and watch
Season Four, or even to lend it off someone else. I'd just completely
stopped caring about any of the characters, and found the whole thing
simply depressing and not worth carrying on with. I've heard many
people say that Season Four was an improvement on Season Three but
it's hardly encouraged me.
In terms of Doctor Who, in the 80's they certainly put the Doctor
through the mill and pulled the rug under his feet and undermined his
competency and his moral code. But instead of making for more
compelling drama, it simply felt like playing some tasteless practical
joke on the audience.
> That said...some of the recurring villains do see their threat diminished by
> always being beaten! I would like to see an episode which really make the
> daleks or The Master terrifying, where they totally succeed in their
> ambitions. But I realise this isn`t really feasible for the show. The best
> that could be done is having a Doctor Lite ( or Doctor Gone! ) episode early
> in the season which just features the daleks and has them completely and
> utterly victorious. And then later in the season this "prelude" could be
> resolved in a 2 parter where the Doctor beats them again. At least this way
> we`d see a 45 minute standalone ( of sorts ) episode which makes them a
> viable threat again. A bit like they did with Daleks Masterplan I suppose.
>
The best example for me was of course the Big Finish spin-off Dalek
Empire, in which the Daleks perversely became the heroes of the piece
(I certainly thought it was a far better take on the intergalactic war
and moral issues of collaborating with the occupying enemy than the
new Battlestar Galactica was). I think that could be done as a TV spin-
off series, in the same adult timeslot as Torchwood completely
unchanged and a modern audience would just instantly 'get' it. Perhaps
that would be a way of actually showing the Daleks being all
conquering and reigning supreme when the Doctor's not on the scene, so
that the stakes would be raised the next time the Doctor encountered
them in the main series.
To me the Master really should have been abandoned after The Deadly
Assassin or Castrovalva. Or at least he should have got only half the
stories he got in the 80's, namely- Five Doctors, Mark of the Rani,
Trial, and Survival. I really don't see why he needed to be in the New
Series. To me the most terrifying Master story is actually the Unbound
story Sympathy for the Devil, mainly because it appears there like
they've really thought around the concept of making the Master like
Moriarty.
> Going back to the earlier point ( or I could just be rambling as random
> thoughts flitter through my brain ) I think Blake`s 7 managed to pull off
> being both dark and camp at the same time in a way no other show before or
> since has ever done.
>
I think Blakes' 7, much like the better McCoy stories had a way of
wrapping quite spiky and dark content in a colourful coating, and
seemed to really using its campness as a radical, artistic statement
of non-conformity.
Soze
> Then I got onto Season Three and I must say this is where I got
> stopped. Much of the occupation arc just struck me as needlessly mean
> spirited and whats more it took the characters into directions that I
> just couldn't believe in, I didn't feel there were sincere motivations
> behind the terrible things the characters did, especially when it came
> to Tigh committing matricide. Once the occupation arc was over it just
> grew increasingly dull, and indulgent of the self-absorbed characters
> who became increasingly impossible to like. The character arc of Gaias
> Baltar kept me hanging in there, particularly when it finally came to
> his trial, but after that I felt no desire at all to buy and watch
> Season Four, or even to lend it off someone else. I'd just completely
> stopped caring about any of the characters, and found the whole thing
> simply depressing and not worth carrying on with. I've heard many
> people say that Season Four was an improvement on Season Three but
> it's hardly encouraged me.
Tigh`s matricide is explained in S4, they actually managed to wrap up most
of the dangling plot points really well. The last episode was a
rollercoaster ride although the very end proved contentious amongst fans. I
actually agree that S3 dipped alarmingly in quality (although I liked the
occupation stuff immensely, it was afterwards the show floundered ). There
was a good 6-7 episode run that really tested my patience mid series. S4 was
superb though and overall the show stands head and shoulders over most sf TV
IMO.
A dalek spin off series would be a great idea actually, showing them at
their ruthless best. I guess it would have to have a human lead...someone
fighting them...an Absolm Daak ( or whatever he was called ) sort of
character. But I`d want to see the daleks win more often than not for the
reasons I mentioned above and perhaps there could be a Dr Who tie in that
sees the Doctor finally get the better of them. I`m fanwanking of course but
if I can`t do that here where can I?!
I only ever listened to the first dalek empire CD, it didn`t really inspire
me to buy anymore although I`ve heard many people rant and rave about it.
> To me the Master really should have been abandoned after The Deadly
> Assassin or Castrovalva. Or at least he should have got only half the
> stories he got in the 80's, namely- Five Doctors, Mark of the Rani,
> Trial, and Survival. I really don't see why he needed to be in the New
> Series. To me the most terrifying Master story is actually the Unbound
> story Sympathy for the Devil, mainly because it appears there like
> they've really thought around the concept of making the Master like
> Moriarty.
The Master has just become a pantomime villain...and has been even since the
Delgado days to be honest. When you have a bad guy turn up every week and be
beaten he just becomes a joke. At least Delgado played the part with some
gravitas though, Ainley`s Master was a proper moustache twirler. I`m aware
that`s how he was told to play it, indeed his final performance gave a
tantalising glimpse of how much better the character could have been if he`d
been allowed to play the part slightly darker. That said I did enjoy Simm`s
portrayal ( I know I`m in the minority here ), there was a genuine threat
for a while.
>> Going back to the earlier point ( or I could just be rambling as random
>> thoughts flitter through my brain ) I think Blake`s 7 managed to pull off
>> being both dark and camp at the same time in a way no other show before
>> or
>> since has ever done.
>>
>
> I think Blakes' 7, much like the better McCoy stories had a way of
> wrapping quite spiky and dark content in a colourful coating, and
> seemed to really using its campness as a radical, artistic statement
> of non-conformity.
Beautifully put!
<p>sychotic <c>hicken
was mentioned just to complicate things :
>On Jun 4, 3:36�pm, Phantasm <forbid...@dangerous-minds.com> wrote:
>> i am firmly of the opinion that doctor who needs more death in it.
>> and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need more
>> likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unquite dead.
>
>it not being minor characters. I always used to laugh when watching
>Star Trek TOS when it was obvious that unknown security person on away
>mission was going to die, usually in some horrible fashion.
>
>It won't happen though as it loses its impact if someone major dies
>too often
The unknown security officer didn't really die ... he was probably dying
for a ciggy.
--
"Bill Jillians is a troll who will say anything to anyone, anytime
if he thought it'd cause mischief. If you're basing you position
one incident, go google his name and read the whole history. Also
go search out the utube clip. I think you'll find it quite
revealing" MuntDregger - 5/6/2009
Stephen O'Connell
>
> A dalek spin off series would be a great idea actually, showing them
> at their ruthless best. I guess it would have to have a human
> lead...someone fighting them...an Absolm Daak ( or whatever he was
> called ) sort of character. But I`d want to see the daleks win more
> often than not for the reasons I mentioned above and perhaps there
> could be a Dr Who tie in that sees the Doctor finally get the better
> of them. I`m fanwanking of course but if I can`t do that here where
> can I?!
I never could understand why there was never a Dalek spin-off tv series.
We had Doctor Who annuals and Dalek annuals side by side for a few
years. So I don't know why the BBC couldn't have tried a Dalek
'special'. Maybe they thought the fans wouldn't 'get it' if there was no
Doctor around? A missed idea and one that Nicholas Briggs and Big
Finish put right when they did their Dalek Empire series of audios.
> I only ever listened to the first dalek empire CD, it didn`t really
> inspire me to buy anymore although I`ve heard many people rant and
> rave about it.
Guilty as charged! The original story is as good an anything you'll ever
hear. Well, IMO of course! :-)
Will Tingle
<doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes
>In article <YO2dnTkKMdJCnLTX...@bt.com>,
>ZARBIFACE <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:>>>><f4824a53-26dd-4bd9-b844-85bb59861...@p4g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
>>>
>>
>>>> Anti-trolls like me.
>>
>>No one likes you.
>>
>>
>
>Troll on Zarbitroll the deluded.
He isn't eluded - Name ONE person who likes you!
--
Will Tingle
Remove YOUR_PANTS to e-mail
Questions For Yads (AKA "The Doctor"):
(most up to date answers will be added as they are given)
1. what _specifically_ do you mean when you say that Zarbi "Behaves like a
cripple"?
A1. "Zarbiface behaves as if he is a cripple."
2. Who (appart from yourself, and people asking this question) uses the word
"Ag" on RADW?
john smith
"Will Tingle" <Will@YOUR__PANTSwillsbedroom.co.uk> wrote in message
news:B5F5VfRl...@willsbedroom.freeserve.co.uk...
> In message <h0b86l$696$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca>, The Doctor
> <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes
>>In article <YO2dnTkKMdJCnLTX...@bt.com>,
>>ZARBIFACE <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5 June, 03:43, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>>>>> In article
>>>>> <f4824a53-26dd-4bd9-b844-85bb59861...@p4g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>
>>>
>>>>> Anti-trolls like me.
>>>
>>>No one likes you.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Troll on Zarbitroll the deluded.
>
> He isn't eluded - Name ONE person who likes you!
>
Even the people at his church and Toastmasters group think he's a cunt...
The Doctor
Will Tingle <Will@YOUR__PANTSwillsbedroom.co.uk> wrote:
>In message <h0b86l$696$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca>, The Doctor
><doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes
>>In article <YO2dnTkKMdJCnLTX...@bt.com>,
>>ZARBIFACE <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5 June, 03:43, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>>>>> In article
>>>>><f4824a53-26dd-4bd9-b844-85bb59861...@p4g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>
>>>
>>>>> Anti-trolls like me.
>>>
>>>No one likes you.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Troll on Zarbitroll the deluded.
>
>He isn't eluded - Name ONE person who likes you!
>
>--
>Will Tingle
>Remove YOUR_PANTS to e-mail
>
Eluded? Where did that come from?
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Ici doc...@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
Never Satan President Republic!
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The Doctor
john smith <the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>"Will Tingle" <Will@YOUR__PANTSwillsbedroom.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:B5F5VfRl...@willsbedroom.freeserve.co.uk...
>> In message <h0b86l$696$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca>, The Doctor
>> <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes
>>>In article <YO2dnTkKMdJCnLTX...@bt.com>,
>>>ZARBIFACE <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5 June, 03:43, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>>>>>> In article
>>>>>> <f4824a53-26dd-4bd9-b844-85bb59861...@p4g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Anti-trolls like me.
>>>>
>>>>No one likes you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Troll on Zarbitroll the deluded.
>>
>> He isn't eluded - Name ONE person who likes you!
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> --
>> Will Tingle
>> Remove YOUR_PANTS to e-mail
>>
>> Questions For Yads (AKA "The Doctor"):
>> (most up to date answers will be added as they are given)
>>
>> 1. what _specifically_ do you mean when you say that Zarbi "Behaves like
>> a
>> cripple"?
>> A1. "Zarbiface behaves as if he is a cripple."
>> 2. Who (appart from yourself, and people asking this question) uses the
>> word
>> "Ag" on RADW?
>
>
Nice to see you back top Poster.
john smith
"Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:790156F...@mid.individual.net...
"...dark and camp..."
Heh! Sounds like a new music genre: dark camp! Cradle of Filth doing "Hey
Big Spender" (and other Shirley Bassey show numbers)!
Soze
"john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:p3ZWl.7448$2D....@newsfe17.ams2...
Well, they did cover `Devil Woman" with King Diamond on backing vocals...
Will Tingle
>In article <B5F5VfRl...@willsbedroom.freeserve.co.uk>,
>Will Tingle <Will@YOUR__PANTSwillsbedroom.co.uk> wrote:
>>In message <h0b86l$696$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca>, The Doctor
>><doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes
>>>In article <YO2dnTkKMdJCnLTX...@bt.com>,
>>>ZARBIFACE <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5 June, 03:43, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>>>>>> In article
>>>>>><f4824a53-26dd-4bd9-b844-85bb59861...@p4g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Anti-trolls like me.
>>>>
>>>>No one likes you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Troll on Zarbitroll the deluded.
>>
>>He isn't eluded - Name ONE person who likes you!
>>
>>--
>>Will Tingle
>>Remove YOUR_PANTS to e-mail
>>
>
>Eluded? Where did that come from?
typo - deluded: the question still stands though-
Name ONE person who likes you!
--
Will Tingle
Remove YOUR_PANTS to e-mail
Questions For Agamemnon:
(most up to date answers will be added as they are given)
1. How old are you?
2. What do you do for a living?
3. Have you ever Had sex with a human?
"none of your business"
4. Where did you get your Physics Degree?
5. Is it racist to call a Japanese lady "JapBird" ?
"No it is not"
6. Do you, consider the word "Pakki" to be acceptable?
7. Is it racist to call a Greek man "Greek"?
8. Is a pigeon the same as a metaphor or isn't it?
"You are a fool!"
9. Please provide an example of Will Tingle's alleged racism.
10. Provide an example of ONE reputable historian who denies the existence of
oral tradition.
The Doctor
sadako
> In article <TcutsdCM9lLKF...@willsbedroom.freeserve.co.uk>,
> Will Tingle <Will@YOUR__PANTSwillsbedroom.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >In message <h0jr8g$v...@gallifrey.nk.ca>, The Doctor
> ><doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes
> >>In article <B5F5VfRlfUKKF...@willsbedroom.freeserve.co.uk>,
> >>Will Tingle <Will@YOUR__PANTSwillsbedroom.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>In message <h0b86l$69...@gallifrey.nk.ca>, The Doctor
> >>><doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes
> >>>>In article <YO2dnTkKMdJCnLTXnZ2dnUVZ8m9i4...@bt.com>,
> >>>>ZARBIFACE <alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> On 5 June, 03:43, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> >>>>>>> In article
> >>>>>>><f4824a53-26dd-4bd9-b844-85bb59861...@p4g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
>
> >>>>>>> Anti-trolls like me.
>
> >>>>>No one likes you.
>
> >>>>Troll on Zarbitroll the deluded.
>
> >>>He isn't eluded - Name ONE person who likes you!
>
> >>>--
> >>>Will Tingle
> >>>Remove YOUR_PANTS to e-mail
>
> >>Eluded? Where did that come from?
>
> >typo - deluded: the question still stands though-
>
> >Name ONE person who likes you!
> >--
> >Will Tingle
> >Remove YOUR_PANTS to e-mail
>
> You mean Agamemnon and <p><c> and Dave Cross.
> --
> Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nl2k.ab.ca
> Ici doc...@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
> Never Satan President Republic!
>
> - Show quoted text -
He means fuck off!
The Doctor
sadako <tom...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>On 9 June, 15:22, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> In article <TcutsdCM9lLKF...@willsbedroom.freeserve.co.uk>,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >In message <h0jr8g$v...@gallifrey.nk.ca>, The Doctor
>> ><doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes
>> >>In article <B5F5VfRlfUKKF...@willsbedroom.freeserve.co.uk>,
>> >>>In message <h0b86l$69...@gallifrey.nk.ca>, The Doctor
>> >>><doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes
>> >>>>In article <YO2dnTkKMdJCnLTXnZ2dnUVZ8m9i4...@bt.com>,
>>
>> >>>>>> On 5 June, 03:43, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> >>>>>>> In article
>,
>>
>> >>>>>>> Anti-trolls like me.
>>
>> >>>>>No one likes you.
>>
>> >>>>Troll on Zarbitroll the deluded.
>>
>> >>>He isn't eluded - Name ONE person who likes you!
>>
>> >>>--
>> >>>Will Tingle
>> >>>Remove YOUR_PANTS to e-mail
>>
>>
>> >typo - deluded: the question still stands though-
>>
>> >Name ONE person who likes you!
>> >--
>> >Will Tingle
>> >Remove YOUR_PANTS to e-mail
>>
>> You mean Agamemnon and <p><c> and Dave Cross.
>> --
>> Ici doc...@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
>> Never Satan President Republic!
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Thus trolled anti-social troll Tom80s the SADactor!
sadako
> In article <b49ea91b-bc37-484a-831c-4e61daefa...@k2g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
>
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Hey don't shoot the messenger. He did honestly mean 'fuck off'! Don't
blame me for pointing that out.
ZARBIFACE
LOL!
Will Tingle
>In article <TcutsdCM...@willsbedroom.freeserve.co.uk>,
>Will Tingle <Will@YOUR__PANTSwillsbedroom.co.uk> wrote:
>>In message <h0jr8g$vi$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca>, The Doctor
>><doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes
>>>In article <B5F5VfRl...@willsbedroom.freeserve.co.uk>,
>>>Will Tingle <Will@YOUR__PANTSwillsbedroom.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>In message <h0b86l$696$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca>, The Doctor
>>>><doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes
>>>>>In article <YO2dnTkKMdJCnLTX...@bt.com>,
>>>>>ZARBIFACE <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5 June, 03:43, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>>><f4824a53-26dd-4bd9-b844-85bb59861...@p4g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anti-trolls like me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No one likes you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Troll on Zarbitroll the deluded.
>>>>
>>>>He isn't eluded - Name ONE person who likes you!
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Will Tingle
>>>>Remove YOUR_PANTS to e-mail
>>>>
>>>
>>>Eluded? Where did that come from?
>>
>>typo - deluded: the question still stands though-
>>
>>Name ONE person who likes you!
>>--
>>Will Tingle
>>Remove YOUR_PANTS to e-mail
>>
>
>You mean Agamemnon and <p><c> and Dave Cross.
first of all - you obviously can't count, second <p><c> and DC just
enjoy squabbling - they don't LIKE you, they're just being contentious,
lastly Aggy has every reason to dislike you because 1) your trolling
takes attention away from him and 2) When I was annoying you, you
claimed I was behaving like him. CLUE: When you use peoples names as an
insult - it does not endear you to them.
--
Will Tingle
Remove YOUR_PANTS to e-mail
Questions For Agamemnon:
The Doctor
>com>,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> sadako =A0<tom...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >On 9 June, 15:22, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> >> In article <TcutsdCM9lLKF...@willsbedroom.freeserve.co.uk>,
>>
>> >> >In message <h0jr8g$v...@gallifrey.nk.ca>, The Doctor
>> >> ><doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes
>> >> >>In article <B5F5VfRlfUKKF...@willsbedroom.freeserve.co.uk>,
>> >> >>>In message <h0b86l$69...@gallifrey.nk.ca>, The Doctor
>> >> >>><doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes
>> >> >>>>In article <YO2dnTkKMdJCnLTXnZ2dnUVZ8m9i4...@bt.com>,
>>
>> >> >>>>>> On 5 June, 03:43, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>> In article
>om>=3D
>> >,
>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Anti-trolls like me.
>>
>> >> >>>>>No one likes you.
>>
>> >> >>>>Troll on Zarbitroll the deluded.
>>
>> >> >>>He isn't eluded - Name ONE person who likes you!
>>
>> >> >>>--
>> >> >>>Will Tingle
>> >> >>>Remove YOUR_PANTS to e-mail
>>
>>
>> >> >typo - deluded: the question still stands though-
>>
>> >> >Name ONE person who likes you!
>> >> >--
>> >> >Will Tingle
>> >> >Remove YOUR_PANTS to e-mail
>>
>> >> You mean Agamemnon and <p><c> and Dave Cross.
>> >> --
>> >> Ici doc...@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ risin=
>g!
>> >> Never Satan President Republic!
>ide q=3D
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>>
>> >He means f!@#k off!
>>
>> Thus trolled anti-social troll Tom80s the SADactor!
>> --
>> Member - Liberal International =A0This is doc...@nl2k.ab.ca
>> Ici doc...@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
>> Never Satan President Republic!
>> Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength. =A0-Eric Hoffer- Hide q=
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>
>blame me for pointing that out.
Troll on anti-social troll Tom80s the SADactor!
The Doctor
The Doctor
<p>sychotic <c>hicken
was mentioned just to complicate things :
Well oiled tonight I see.
The Doctor
That would be Tpo Poster for you.
Phantasm
> I was hanging out with the cool kids in rec.arts.drwho when
> Phantasm got out a spraycan and scrawled the following:
> > and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need more
> > likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unquite dead.
>
> don't keep getting fed crap like Rose' "this is the day that I died".
>
> Memory wiping != death
>
> Temporary exile to parallel universe != death
>
> Remembering alternate self vanishing along with an entire divergent
> timeline != death
Quoted for truthiness. Death means your heart stops beating permanantly, nervous system becomes dormant permanantly, and the remains of your body begin decomposing irreversibly.
Phantasm
> > i am firmly of the opinion that doctor who needs more death in it.
> > and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need more
> > likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unquite dead.
>
I said likable characters.
The Doctor
God,Queen and country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!
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The Doctor
Phantasm
> Monsieur Tabernac wrote:
> > On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 22:36:08 -0700 (PDT), Phantasm
> >
> >> i am firmly of the opinion that doctor who needs more death in it.
> >> and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need more
> >> likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unquite dead.
> >
> > "Everybody Lives" Moffatt taking over the show.
>
>
> Perhaps Phantasm doesn't understand that Doctor Who is a family show.
> It's not an adult misery-fest like Battlestar Galactica.
HA HA HA! That's funny.
Are you talking about the show that was originally about a miserable old man who abused his granddaughter by locking her in a shed in a junkyard, then kidnapped and almost killed her schoolteachers who tried to intercede on her behalf? Yeah, I guess that kinda had an afterschool special vibe to it . . . until they got to the half naked cave people smashing each others heads open like cabbages.
Or did you meant the newer version of the show, where he's a weirdo who prances around like Michael Jackson trying to recapture his youth and sneaks into children's bedrooms in the middle of the night to do to unseemly things with, ahem, cracks?
Dunno about you but I prefer the first version.
The Doctor
>On Thursday, June 4, 2009 7:30:04 AM UTC-5, ZARBIFACE wrote:
>> Monsieur Tabernac wrote:
>> > On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 22:36:08 -0700 (PDT), Phantasm
>> > <> wrote:
>> >> and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need more
>> >> likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unquite dead.
>> > "Everybody Lives" Moffatt taking over the show.
>>=20
>> Perhaps Phantasm doesn't understand that Doctor Who is a family show.=20
>
>HA HA HA! That's funny.
>
>n who abused his granddaughter by locking her in a shed in a junkyard, then=
> kidnapped and almost killed her schoolteachers who tried to intercede on h=
>er behalf? Yeah, I guess that kinda had an afterschool special vibe to it =
>. . . until they got to the half naked cave people smashing each others hea=
>ds open like cabbages.
>
>Or did you meant the newer version of the show, where he's a weirdo who pra=
>nces around like Michael Jackson trying to recapture his youth and sneaks i=
>nto children's bedrooms in the middle of the night to do to unseemly things=
>
>Dunno about you but I prefer the first version.
Phantasm
> In article <d6cfaffc-fff9-411b...@googlegroups.com>,
> Phantasm <forb...@dangerous-minds.com> wrote:
> >On Thursday, June 4, 2009 7:41:09 AM UTC-5, The Face of Po wrote:
> >> I was hanging out with the cool kids in rec.arts.drwho when
> >> Phantasm got out a spraycan and scrawled the following:
> >> > i am firmly of the opinion that doctor who needs more death in it.
> >> > and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need more
> >> > likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unquite dead.
> >>
> >> We need people to die before they're described as being dead, so that we
> >> don't keep getting fed crap like Rose' "this is the day that I died".
> >>
> >> Memory wiping != death
> >>
> >> Temporary exile to parallel universe != death
> >>
> >> Remembering alternate self vanishing along with an entire divergent
> >> timeline != death
> >
> >Quoted for truthiness. Death means your heart stops beating permanantly, nervous system becomes dormant permanantly, and the remains of your body begin decomposing irreversibly.
>
> Truthiness?
TB
> i am firmly of the opinion that doctor who needs more death in it.
> and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need more
> likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unquite dead.
TB
> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 23:03:28 -0700 (PDT), Hulahoop
> <sween...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jun 4, 3:36�pm, Phantasm <forbid...@dangerous-minds.com> wrote:
> >> i am firmly of the opinion that doctor who needs more death in it.
> >> and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need more
> >> likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unquite dead.
> >
> >it not being minor characters. I always used to laugh when watching
> >Star Trek TOS when it was obvious that unknown security person on away
> >mission was going to die, usually in some horrible fashion.
> >
> >It won't happen though as it loses its impact if someone major dies
> >too often
>
> The biggest let-down of the series was the moment when the Dalek
> bottled out of zapping Rose.
>
> Raffalo Jabe and Gwyneth were pretty substantial characters who met a
> grizzly end. The first series had a pretty high casualty rate among
> female characters. I still wish Lynda (wiv a wy) had been rescued. She
> could have been an excellent companion.
>
> Cassandra, the Face of Boe, Jackie II, a substantial portion of the
> Family of Blood cast, Chantho, The Master, Astrid...
>
> I think the series has notched up a fairly substantial casualty list.
The Master keeps coming back!
TB
> > i am firmly of the opinion that doctor who needs more death in it.
> > and i don't mean minor characters nobody cares about. we need more
> > likable characters to snuff it, like gwyneth did in the unquite dead.
>
TB
TB
The Doctor
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