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William December Starr  
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 More options Nov 9 2001, 9:28 am
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: wdst...@panix.com (William December Starr)
Date: 9 Nov 2001 09:28:36 -0500
Local: Fri, Nov 9 2001 9:28 am
Subject: Re: Apparent theme of the 8DAs
In article <9s6k2a$...@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca>,
smith...@mcmail.cis.McMaster.CA (R.J. Smith) said:

> Yes, but Empire of Glass was significantly before that (about 3
> years or so, if memory serves). Tears nails it down pretty much as
> far as Virgin could then, it's Empire that provides the ambiguity.

I can't argue with you here as I bypassed most of the Missing
Adventures, including that one.  My whole exposure, wholly unexpected,
to the "Brax as the Doctor's sibling" idea came from just the one
source, _Tears of the Oracle_.

[ *snip* ]

> Of course it would have been there, they nailed it down! My gripe
> about that line is that they weren't ambiguous enough - I don't mind
> a hint that possiblymaybeperhaps Braxi might be the Doctor's brother
> (or the nearest equivalent that us mere mortals can understand) but
> saying "Yep, he's my brother" is clunky and obvious, IMO.

Even taking into account the licensing difficulties I suspect that it
could have been stated more clearly.  And then there's the whole
_Lungbarrow_ problem that's brought up by the use of "brother" rather
than "I have a, well, the relationship is something like a brother,"
which would at least have left open the possibility that Irving was a
Cousin who avoided being namechecked during _Lungbarrow_ and later
managed to overcome the family trait of iron-rod-up-one's-assedness
and chose to hit the road.

> I think this thread is amusing. You're claiming that they weren't
> concrete enough and that you fon't like the ambiguity of it, while I
> think it's the textbook example of nailing something down too hard
> and where ambiguity would greatly improve it.

Perhaps the real sin is that they tried to have it both ways at once.
"Yes, we're absolutely positively nailing it down in concrete that
Irving is the Doctor's brother.  Except that we aren't.  Well, not
officially.  But you know what we mean, nudge nudge, wink wink. But
for the record, we never said it.  And we'll deny it under oath."
Bleah.

-- William December Starr <wdst...@panix.com>


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