Dear God...
Douglas B. Killings
today's date:
******
"The weekend of 16th and 17th September saw former long time Doctor Who
producer John Nathan-Turner (left with Nicholas Briggs) record his
memoirs for Big Finish.
"John tells all about his time with the programme - detailing his early
work with Pat Troughton and Jon Pertwee through the ten years he spent
producing the show and talks candidly about the controversial aspects of
his tenure and the actors, actresses, writers and directors he worked
with.
"JNT's memoirs will be released in two double-CD volumes in early 2001."
******
Does anyone else find this a little, um, groan-worthy?
And the sad thing is, I'll probably STILL end up plopping down the money
for them...
--
Douglas B. Killings
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Cliff Bowman
news:39C950D0...@EnterAct.COM...
> I just looked at Big Finish's website. The following is posted with
> today's date:
>
> ******
>
> "The weekend of 16th and 17th September saw former long time Doctor Who
> producer John Nathan-Turner (left with Nicholas Briggs) record his
> memoirs for Big Finish.
>
> "John tells all about his time with the programme - detailing his early
> work with Pat Troughton and Jon Pertwee through the ten years he spent
> producing the show and talks candidly about the controversial aspects of
> his tenure and the actors, actresses, writers and directors he worked
> with.
>
> "JNT's memoirs will be released in two double-CD volumes in early 2001."
>
> ******
>
> Does anyone else find this a little, um, groan-worthy?
I find it remarkable that more than ten years worth of working on a
programme like "Doctor Who" is going to fit in 148 minutes. Unless, of
course, he spent much of that time not working with anyone...
> And the sad thing is, I'll probably STILL end up plopping down the money
> for them...
>
Possibly - but I can't help but think it's going to be their slowest seller.
--
Cheers,
Cliff Bowman
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PS change "2" to "1" and remove "inter" to reply by e-mail
Douglas B. Killings
> > "JNT's memoirs will be released in two double-CD volumes in early 2001."
>
> I find it remarkable that more than ten years worth of working on a
> programme like "Doctor Who" is going to fit in 148 minutes. Unless, of
> course, he spent much of that time not working with anyone...
Two double CD sets, thats four CDs total. At a max of 74 min per CD, that's a
potential for 296 minutes. So, what we are looking at is about 4-5 hours of JNT
blathering into the microphone regurgitating all of the stories he's told over
and over again at every convention he's ever attended.
OK, straw poll time. Is there anyone here who may actually buy these when they
come out?
Rufus T. Firefly
> Cliff Bowman wrote:
>
> > > "JNT's memoirs will be released in two double-CD volumes in early
2001."
> >
> > I find it remarkable that more than ten years worth of working on a
> > programme like "Doctor Who" is going to fit in 148 minutes. Unless, of
> > course, he spent much of that time not working with anyone...
>
> Two double CD sets, thats four CDs total. At a max of 74 min per CD,
that's a
> potential for 296 minutes. So, what we are looking at is about 4-5 hours
of JNT
> blathering into the microphone regurgitating all of the stories he's told
over
> and over again at every convention he's ever attended.
>
> OK, straw poll time. Is there anyone here who may actually buy these when
they
> come out?
I'll wait for the novelisation, thanks..
-- RTF
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Cliff Bowman
news:39C9A6ED...@EnterAct.COM...
> Cliff Bowman wrote:
>
> > > "JNT's memoirs will be released in two double-CD volumes in early
2001."
> >
> > I find it remarkable that more than ten years worth of working on a
> > programme like "Doctor Who" is going to fit in 148 minutes. Unless, of
> > course, he spent much of that time not working with anyone...
>
> Two double CD sets, thats four CDs total. At a max of 74 min per CD,
that's a
> potential for 296 minutes. So, what we are looking at is about 4-5 hours
of JNT
> blathering into the microphone regurgitating all of the stories he's told
over
> and over again at every convention he's ever attended.
<blink>
Aaarrrgghhh!
<runs away>
> OK, straw poll time. Is there anyone here who may actually buy these when
they
> come out?
>
<sorry, can't hear you - but I still didn't run far enough>
Cliff Bowman
news:BBiy5.28941$4d.36...@news02.optonline.net...
> "Douglas B. Killings" <detr...@EnterAct.COM> wrote in message
> news:39C9A6ED...@EnterAct.COM...
> > Cliff Bowman wrote:
> >
> > > > "JNT's memoirs will be released in two double-CD volumes in early
> 2001."
> > >
> > > I find it remarkable that more than ten years worth of working on a
> > > programme like "Doctor Who" is going to fit in 148 minutes. Unless, of
> > > course, he spent much of that time not working with anyone...
> >
> > Two double CD sets, thats four CDs total. At a max of 74 min per CD,
> that's a
> > potential for 296 minutes. So, what we are looking at is about 4-5
hours
> of JNT
> > blathering into the microphone regurgitating all of the stories he's
told
> over
> > and over again at every convention he's ever attended.
> >
when
> they
> > come out?
>
>
Burns better with less damage to the environment?
Nyctolops
<detr...@EnterAct.COM> wrote:
>Cliff Bowman wrote:
>
>> > "JNT's memoirs will be released in two double-CD volumes in early 2001."
>>
>> I find it remarkable that more than ten years worth of working on a
>> programme like "Doctor Who" is going to fit in 148 minutes. Unless, of
>> course, he spent much of that time not working with anyone...
>
>Two double CD sets, thats four CDs total. At a max of 74 min per CD, that's a
>potential for 296 minutes. So, what we are looking at is about 4-5 hours of JNT
>blathering into the microphone regurgitating all of the stories he's told over
>and over again at every convention he's ever attended.
>
>OK, straw poll time. Is there anyone here who may actually buy these when they
>come out?
>
I don't think I will. I have nothing against JNT, but I would rather
spend my money on actual Doctor Who stories.
Nyctolops
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Rufus T. Firefly
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> "Rufus T. Firefly" <r_...@phonelosers.net> wrote in message
> news:BBiy5.28941$4d.36...@news02.optonline.net...
> > news:39C9A6ED...@EnterAct.COM...
> > > Cliff Bowman wrote:
> > >
> > > > > "JNT's memoirs will be released in two double-CD volumes in early
> > 2001."
> > > >
> > > > I find it remarkable that more than ten years worth of working on a
> > > > programme like "Doctor Who" is going to fit in 148 minutes. Unless,
of
> > > > course, he spent much of that time not working with anyone...
> > >
> > > Two double CD sets, thats four CDs total. At a max of 74 min per CD,
> > that's a
> > > potential for 296 minutes. So, what we are looking at is about 4-5
> hours
> > of JNT
> > > blathering into the microphone regurgitating all of the stories he's
> told
> > over
> > > and over again at every convention he's ever attended.
> > >
> > > OK, straw poll time. Is there anyone here who may actually buy these
> when
> > they
> > > come out?
> >
> >
>
> Burns better with less damage to the environment?
More along the lines of CDs being far too skinny to prop up that wobbly
table leg I've been meaning to take care of, whereas a book can be adjusted
(i.e. "torn") to just the right thickness.
James
More because it'd give him the chance to burn the work of both Gary
Russell and JNT all at once, one would imagine.. but I can't speak for
Monsieur Firefly!
--James.
Potential patron saint of the obsolete.
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Ambassador Mollari
Douglas B. Killings <detr...@EnterAct.COM> wrote...
>
> Two double CD sets, thats four CDs total. At a max of 74 min per CD,
that's a
> potential for 296 minutes. So, what we are looking at is about 4-5 hours
of JNT
> blathering into the microphone regurgitating all of the stories he's told
over
> and over again at every convention he's ever attended.
>
> OK, straw poll time. Is there anyone here who may actually buy these
when they
> come out?
Well, for myself I dunno, and Dave said "in the immortal words of Jake
Blues: no fucking way."
Speaking of whom, has he mentioned the Guy audio yet?
Adam Richards
<detr...@EnterAct.COM> wrote:
>Cliff Bowman wrote:
>
>> > "JNT's memoirs will be released in two double-CD volumes in early 2001."
>>
>> I find it remarkable that more than ten years worth of working on a
>> programme like "Doctor Who" is going to fit in 148 minutes. Unless, of
>> course, he spent much of that time not working with anyone...
I find it remarkable that JN-T could be so arrogant, frankly.
>Two double CD sets, thats four CDs total. At a max of 74 min per CD, that's a
>potential for 296 minutes. So, what we are looking at is about 4-5 hours of JNT
>blathering into the microphone regurgitating all of the stories he's told over
>and over again at every convention he's ever attended.
All sanitized to remove all elements of unsavouryness /
unprofessionalism from himself, I'll bet.
If any other past producer of the show did this, I'd be every bit as
scathing. How many other producers of TV shows do this? Do we get CDs
of "How I produced Casualty, through the years", or "My Time on
Coronation Street vols. I-IV"? No we don't. He really **couldn't** be
that big-headed could he? Please say this is a joke.
Still, the slag-off reviews in the fan-press should be fun...
>OK, straw poll time. Is there anyone here who may actually buy these when they
>come out?
NO FUCKING WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!
======================================================
Adam Richards Ad...@roblang.demon.co.uk
Nick Cooper
<Ad...@roblang.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>If any other past producer of the show did this, I'd be every bit as
>scathing. How many other producers of TV shows do this? Do we get CDs
>of "How I produced Casualty, through the years", or "My Time on
>Coronation Street vols. I-IV"? No we don't. He really **couldn't** be
>that big-headed could he? Please say this is a joke.
The nearest I can think about is Irene Shubik's book about her time on
'The Wednesday Play'/'Play for Today', but at least that has some
scholarly basis and was at one time the a standard reference work on
making high-quality TV drama. 'Dr Who' and particularly JN-T doesn't
cut quite the sa\me mustard. Personally, I think _any_ of the other
producers would be quite interesting as - with the possible exception
of Barry Letts - very few have done the convention circuit. On a
related not, I though Peter Grimwade's 'Myth-Makers' tape was the best
I'd ever seen, as he proved the truism that production staff usually
have far more interesting stuff to say than sad out-of-work actors.
--
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David Brunt
><Ad...@roblang.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>If any other past producer of the show did this, I'd be every bit as
>>scathing. How many other producers of TV shows do this? Do we get CDs
>>of "How I produced Casualty, through the years", or "My Time on
>>Coronation Street vols. I-IV"? No we don't. He really **couldn't** be
>>that big-headed could he? Please say this is a joke.
There's H.V. Kershaw's Coronation Street books.
Julia Smith's Eastenders memoirs.
Tom Mennard's This is Your Life story
Larry Gelbart's memoirs about MASH.
Biddy Baxter and Edward Barnes' Blue Peter memoirs.
Some woman who's name I've forgotten's book about The Archers
It's not a unique occurance, and those are just the ones off the top of my
head. I can probably cite many others given a little more time.
>The nearest I can think about is Irene Shubik's book about her time on
>'The Wednesday Play'/'Play for Today', but at least that has some
>scholarly basis and was at one time the a standard reference work on
>making high-quality TV drama. 'Dr Who' and particularly JN-T doesn't
>cut quite the sa\me mustard. Personally, I think _any_ of the other
>producers would be quite interesting as - with the possible exception
>of Barry Letts - very few have done the convention circuit.
Aside from Derrick Sherwin, they've all made at least one convention
appearance. Even "fag ash" Wiles...
>On a
>related not, I though Peter Grimwade's 'Myth-Makers' tape was the best
>I'd ever seen, as he proved the truism that production staff usually
>have far more interesting stuff to say than sad out-of-work actors.
Ain't that the truth. As they're on the creative side, rather than just
reading words written by someone else, wearing clothes designed by others
and told where to stand. The actor has very little part in the creative
process, even though they're the most visible.
David
Nyctolops
wrote:
I find myself not able to agree with this. I do agree that actors
have to work with what is given to them to do, but I have seen a good
actor pull off a poorly written part and make it worth watching and I
have also seen a poor actor absolutely trash a good story by not being
equal to the task given him/her. In short, I think that the actors
can make or break a show and should be given quite a lot of credit or
blame.
Nick Lancaster
<nyct...@concentric.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 12:54:06 +0100, "David Brunt" <D...@btinternet.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Nick Cooper wrote in message <39cedcaa...@news.virgin.net>...
>>><Ad...@roblang.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>On a
>>>related not, I though Peter Grimwade's 'Myth-Makers' tape was the best
>>>I'd ever seen, as he proved the truism that production staff usually
>>>have far more interesting stuff to say than sad out-of-work actors.
>>
>>Ain't that the truth. As they're on the creative side, rather than just
>>reading words written by someone else, wearing clothes designed by others
>>and told where to stand. The actor has very little part in the creative
>>process, even though they're the most visible.
>>
>I find myself not able to agree with this. I do agree that actors
>have to work with what is given to them to do, but I have seen a good
>actor pull off a poorly written part and make it worth watching and I
>have also seen a poor actor absolutely trash a good story by not being
>equal to the task given him/her. In short, I think that the actors
>can make or break a show and should be given quite a lot of credit or
>blame.
Yeah, but a lot of decent actors would be completely lost if they had
to write their own scripts, or respond to an interviewer in an
intelligent and interesting way.
But then, I suppose, some writers might find themselves unable to
communicate verbally in an interesting way. There's nothing worse than
someone trying to say something interesting, but saying it in such a
boring way...
I'm reminded of a lecturer I saw the other day talking about studying
English, but unfortunately stuttering all over the place.
"C..Communication, er, skills are very im.. im.. important in, er, in
life to... today..." It was painful.
I think I meandered in there somewhere.
love,
Nick
-let's get this party started
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