Hadron Collider breaks down because a passing bird dropped bread on it
Matthew Kruk
bread on it
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 11:58 AM on 07th November 2009
It's one of the most expensive and technologically-complex machines in
the world, but that didn't prevent the Large Hadron Collider from coming
a cropper thanks to our feathered friends.
The �4.4 billion 'God Machine' overheated after a passing bird dropped a
piece of bread into a high voltage installation which was powering a
cooling unit.
Scientists looking into a failure of the cryogenic cooling plant found a
piece of baguette had caused the malfunction.
The problem was noticed by enthusiasts who were online monitoring data
online and noticed unusual temperature changes.
It's not the first setback for the Collider, buried 100m underground
near Geneva, Switzerland.
The mighty machine was switched on last year in an effort to unlock the
secrets of the origin of the universe, but broke down within days due to
a leak of helium.
The LHC attempts to recreate conditions at the time of the Big Bang by
firing protons round its 16.8 mile tunnel at almost the speed of light
to smash them into each other.
There was concern at the time of its launch last year that the device's
experiments could inadvertently bring about the end of the world.
Scientists say that had the machine been fully operational the results
could have caused a problem similar to the catastrophic breakdown
suffered by the particle accelerator last year, which led to it being
out of action for 14 months.
Scientists say that the machine would have automatically shut down this
time, however, leading to minimal disruption.
The series of technical glitches the LHC has suffered has resulted in
some members of the scientific world speculating the machine is being
sabotaged - by itself.
Some physicists have said that time-travelling particles from the future
could be damaging the machine in an attempt to thwart any experiments.
Find this story at
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1225830/Hadron-Collider-breaks-thanks-bread-dropped-passing-bird.html
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AlanZarbury
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>
> Some physicists have said that time-travelling particles from the future
> could be damaging the machine in an attempt to thwart any experiments.
>
The Mail loves its fantasies doesn't it.
Matthew Kruk
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The Mail didn't originate this. First read about it a month ago:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/13/science/space/13lhc.html
The Doctor
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Hulahoop
It's great journalism isn't it:
* "Some physicists" - ie no citations of whom, nor any indication of
what their qualifications to speak on the subject are
* "time-travelling particles from the future could be damaging the
machine in an attempt to thwart any experiments". I like the use of
the words "could be". Equally they "might not be". Who can prove it
one way or the other? Typically lazy journalism from one of the UK's
more squalid little rags. The Mail is definitely one thing I do not
miss about the UK
Regards
Ged
John Fleming
desk in the scriptorium Hulahoop <sween...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> $On Nov 8, 3:33�am, AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $> Matthew Kruk wrote:
> $>
> $> > Some physicists have said that time-travelling particles from the future
> $> > could be damaging the machine in an attempt to thwart any experiments.
> $>
> $> The Mail loves its fantasies doesn't it.
> $
> $It's great journalism isn't it:
> $* "Some physicists" - ie no citations of whom, nor any indication of
> $what their qualifications to speak on the subject are
> $
> $* "time-travelling particles from the future could be damaging the
> $machine in an attempt to thwart any experiments". I like the use of
> $the words "could be". Equally they "might not be". Who can prove it
> $one way or the other? Typically lazy journalism from one of the UK's
> $more squalid little rags. The Mail is definitely one thing I do not
> $miss about the UK
For all we know, they are quoting some turkey like Richard
C. Hoagland.
Hoagland knows enough science to sound authoratative, but
with a little digging, you realize he would fit in nicely
with the UFO and the "pyramids of Egypt were built by aliens
from outer space" crowd.
--
John Fleming
Edmonton, Canada
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And on that farm he had a genome E-I-E-I-O
With a SNP SNP here and a SNP SNP there,
Here a SNP, there a SNP, everywhere a SNP SNP
Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
Sharx35
"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
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You've been listening to Coast to Coast, eh John?
john smith
You mean they weren't?
John Fleming
the scriptorium "Sharx35" <sha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $news:dkmdf5tt35h2847a7...@4ax.com...
> $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:17:04 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> $> desk in the scriptorium Hulahoop <sween...@hotmail.com>
> $> wrote:
> $>> $On Nov 8, 3:33 am, AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $>> $> Matthew Kruk wrote:
> $>> $>
> $>> $> > Some physicists have said that time-travelling particles from the
> $>> $> > could be damaging the machine in an attempt to thwart any
> $>> experiments.
> $>> $>
> $>> $> The Mail loves its fantasies doesn't it.
> $>> $
> $>> $It's great journalism isn't it:
> $>> $what their qualifications to speak on the subject are
> $>> $
> $>> $* "time-travelling particles from the future could be damaging the
> $>> $the words "could be". Equally they "might not be". Who can prove it
> $>> $one way or the other? Typically lazy journalism from one of the UK's
> $>> $more squalid little rags. The Mail is definitely one thing I do not
> $>> $miss about the UK
> $>
> $> For all we know, they are quoting some turkey like Richard
> $> C. Hoagland.
> $>
> $> Hoagland knows enough science to sound authoratative, but
> $> with a little digging, you realize he would fit in nicely
> $> with the UFO and the "pyramids of Egypt were built by aliens
> $> from outer space" crowd.
> $
> $You've been listening to Coast to Coast, eh John?
I might if I'm having trouble sleeping.
I used to listen to it more.
While a lot of the guests are kind of out to lunch, some of
them are interesting.
pandora
"john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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John Fleming
in the scriptorium "john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $news:dkmdf5tt35h2847a7...@4ax.com...
> $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:17:04 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> $> desk in the scriptorium Hulahoop <sween...@hotmail.com>
> $> wrote:
> $>> $On Nov 8, 3:33 am, AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $>> $> Matthew Kruk wrote:
> $>> $>
> $>> $> > Some physicists have said that time-travelling particles from the
> $>> $> > could be damaging the machine in an attempt to thwart any
> $>> experiments.
> $>> $>
> $>> $> The Mail loves its fantasies doesn't it.
> $>> $
> $>> $It's great journalism isn't it:
> $>> $what their qualifications to speak on the subject are
> $>> $
> $>> $* "time-travelling particles from the future could be damaging the
> $>> $the words "could be". Equally they "might not be". Who can prove it
> $>> $one way or the other? Typically lazy journalism from one of the UK's
> $>> $more squalid little rags. The Mail is definitely one thing I do not
> $>> $miss about the UK
> $>
> $> For all we know, they are quoting some turkey like Richard
> $> C. Hoagland.
> $>
> $> Hoagland knows enough science to sound authoratative, but
> $> with a little digging, you realize he would fit in nicely
> $> with the UFO and the "pyramids of Egypt were built by aliens
> $> from outer space" crowd.
> $
I know its hard to accept, but to date no one has produced
definitive evidence that aliens from other worlds have ever
visited the Earth. No crashed spacecraft, no bodies, no
library cards, . . ..
--
John Fleming
in the scriptorium "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $"john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> $news:fZFJm.143241$k74....@newsfe17.ams2...
> $> "John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $> news:dkmdf5tt35h2847a7...@4ax.com...
> $> > On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:17:04 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> $> > desk in the scriptorium Hulahoop <sween...@hotmail.com>
> $> > wrote:
> $> >> $On Nov 8, 3:33 am, AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $> >> $> Matthew Kruk wrote:
> $> >> $>
> $> >> $> > Some physicists have said that time-travelling particles from the
> $> >> $> > could be damaging the machine in an attempt to thwart any
> $> >> experiments.
> $> >> $>
> $> >> $> The Mail loves its fantasies doesn't it.
> $> >> $
> $> >> $It's great journalism isn't it:
> $> >> $what their qualifications to speak on the subject are
> $> >> $
> $> >> $* "time-travelling particles from the future could be damaging the
> $> >> $the words "could be". Equally they "might not be". Who can prove it
> $> >> $one way or the other? Typically lazy journalism from one of the UK's
> $> >> $more squalid little rags. The Mail is definitely one thing I do not
> $> >> $miss about the UK
> $> >
> $> > For all we know, they are quoting some turkey like Richard
> $> > C. Hoagland.
> $> >
> $> > Hoagland knows enough science to sound authoratative, but
> $> > with a little digging, you realize he would fit in nicely
> $> > with the UFO and the "pyramids of Egypt were built by aliens
> $> > from outer space" crowd.
> $>
> $>
> $Drat! There goes MY belief system.
That's right.
You'll have to adopt a new belief system.
--
AlanZarbury
Presumably aliens are too intelligent to bother with humans.
The Doctor
The Doctor
The Doctor
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John Fleming
in the scriptorium AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $John Fleming wrote:
> $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:36:35 -0000, while chained to a desk
> $> in the scriptorium "john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com>
> $> wrote:
> $>> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $>> $news:dkmdf5tt35h2847a7...@4ax.com...
> $>> $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:17:04 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> $>> $> desk in the scriptorium Hulahoop <sween...@hotmail.com>
> $>> $> wrote:
> $>> $>> $On Nov 8, 3:33 am, AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $>> $>> $> Matthew Kruk wrote:
> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $> > Some physicists have said that time-travelling particles from the
> $>> $>> $> > could be damaging the machine in an attempt to thwart any
> $>> $>> experiments.
> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $> The Mail loves its fantasies doesn't it.
> $>> $>> $
> $>> $>> $It's great journalism isn't it:
> $>> $>> $what their qualifications to speak on the subject are
> $>> $>> $
> $>> $>> $* "time-travelling particles from the future could be damaging the
> $>> $>> $the words "could be". Equally they "might not be". Who can prove it
> $>> $>> $one way or the other? Typically lazy journalism from one of the UK's
> $>> $>> $more squalid little rags. The Mail is definitely one thing I do not
> $>> $>> $miss about the UK
> $>> $>
> $>> $> For all we know, they are quoting some turkey like Richard
> $>> $>
> $>> $> Hoagland knows enough science to sound authoratative, but
> $>> $> with the UFO and the "pyramids of Egypt were built by aliens
> $>> $> from outer space" crowd.
> $>> $
> $>> $You mean they weren't?
> $> I know its hard to accept, but to date no one has produced
> $> definitive evidence that aliens from other worlds have ever
> $> visited the Earth. No crashed spacecraft, no bodies, no
> $> library cards, . . ..
> $
> $Presumably aliens are too intelligent to bother with humans.
I don't know. They might view us as a good case study in
the early development of primitive species.
Kind of like us studying societies like the Dobe !Kung to
gain insights into how prehistoric humans might have lived.
But with a much greater differential in species development.
pandora
No Vulcans? How cruel of you to say so! I'm just crushed.
The Doctor
John Fleming
in the scriptorium "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:36:35 -0000, while chained to a desk
> $> in the scriptorium "john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com>
> $> wrote:
> $> > $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $> > $news:dkmdf5tt35h2847a7...@4ax.com...
> $> > $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:17:04 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> $> > $> desk in the scriptorium Hulahoop <sween...@hotmail.com>
> $> > $> wrote:
> $> > $>> $On Nov 8, 3:33 am, AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $> > $>> $> Matthew Kruk wrote:
> $> > $>> $>
> $> > $>> $> > Some physicists have said that time-travelling particles from
> $> > $>> future
> $> > $>> $> > could be damaging the machine in an attempt to thwart any
> $> > $>> experiments.
> $> > $>> $>
> $> > $>> $> The Mail loves its fantasies doesn't it.
> $> > $>> $
> $> > $>> $It's great journalism isn't it:
> $of
> $> > $>> $what their qualifications to speak on the subject are
> $> > $>> $
> $> > $>> $* "time-travelling particles from the future could be damaging
> $> > $>> $machine in an attempt to thwart any experiments". I like the use
> $of
> $> > $>> $the words "could be". Equally they "might not be". Who can prove
> $it
> $> > $>> $one way or the other? Typically lazy journalism from one of the
> $UK's
> $> > $>> $more squalid little rags. The Mail is definitely one thing I do
> $not
> $> > $>> $miss about the UK
> $> > $>
> $> > $> For all we know, they are quoting some turkey like Richard
> $> > $>
> $> > $> Hoagland knows enough science to sound authoratative, but
> $> > $> with the UFO and the "pyramids of Egypt were built by aliens
> $> > $> from outer space" crowd.
> $> > $
> $> > $You mean they weren't?
> $> I know its hard to accept, but to date no one has produced
> $> definitive evidence that aliens from other worlds have ever
> $> visited the Earth. No crashed spacecraft, no bodies, no
> $> library cards, . . ..
> $
> $ No Vulcans? How cruel of you to say so! I'm just crushed.
We just don't have any evidence, the Rosewell crash
notwithstanding, they exist.
Actually, when you consider the billions of stars in the
universe, I'd be very surprised if life hasn't developed
elsewhere in the universe. And I'd be surprised if
intelligent life hasn't developed.
It's just that claims of people like Hoagland aside, no
intelligent species has left a calling card to tell us they
were in the neighbourhood. And to date, we have uncovered
no evidence to suggest life exists elsewhere in the
universe, much less intelligent life.
john smith
"AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in message
(SINGS)
"And pray that there's intelligent life
Somewhere up in space
'Cause there's bugger all
Down here on Earth..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buqtdpuZxvk
john smith
Roswell was a weather balloon that was subsequently spun off into a whole
PsyOps disinfo strategy to cover up US Air Force tests (amongst other
things)... That's my reading of it, anyway...
> Actually, when you consider the billions of stars in the
> universe, I'd be very surprised if life hasn't developed
> elsewhere in the universe. And I'd be surprised if
> intelligent life hasn't developed.
Me too! They're just very very very very very far away... (Unless what we
call UFOs and aliens are actually ultraterrestrials or time travelling
future humans or something...)
pandora
I guess so. There are SO many to choose from. :-)
John Fleming
> $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:30:52 -0800, while chained to a desk
> $> in the scriptorium "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $>> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $>> $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:36:35 -0000, while chained to a desk
> $>> $> in the scriptorium "john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com>
> $>> $> wrote:
> $>> $> > $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $>> $> > $news:dkmdf5tt35h2847a7...@4ax.com...
> $>> $> > $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:17:04 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> $>> $> > $> desk in the scriptorium Hulahoop <sween...@hotmail.com>
> $>> $> > $> wrote:
> $>> $> > $>> $On Nov 8, 3:33 am, AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $>> $> > $>> $> Matthew Kruk wrote:
> $>> $> > $>> $>
> $>> $> > $>> $> > Some physicists have said that time-travelling particles
> $>> $the
> $>> $> > $>> future
> $>> $> > $>> $> > could be damaging the machine in an attempt to thwart any
> $>> $> > $>> experiments.
> $>> $> > $>> $>
> $>> $> > $>> $> The Mail loves its fantasies doesn't it.
> $>> $> > $>> $
> $>> $> > $>> $* "Some physicists" - ie no citations of whom, nor any
> $>> indication
> $>> $of
> $>> $> > $>> $what their qualifications to speak on the subject are
> $>> $> > $>> $
> $>> $> > $>> $* "time-travelling particles from the future could be
> $>> damaging
> $>> $the
> $>> $> > $>> $machine in an attempt to thwart any experiments". I like the
> $>> use
> $>> $of
> $>> $> > $>> $the words "could be". Equally they "might not be". Who can
> $>> prove
> $>> $it
> $>> $> > $>> $one way or the other? Typically lazy journalism from one of
> $>> the
> $>> $UK's
> $>> $> > $>> $more squalid little rags. The Mail is definitely one thing I
> $>> do
> $>> $not
> $>> $> > $>> $miss about the UK
> $>> $> > $>
> $>> $> > $> For all we know, they are quoting some turkey like Richard
> $>> $> > $>
> $>> $> > $> Hoagland knows enough science to sound authoratative, but
> $>> $> > $> with the UFO and the "pyramids of Egypt were built by aliens
> $>> $> > $> from outer space" crowd.
> $>> $> > $
> $>> $> > $You mean they weren't?
> $>> $>
> $>> $> I know its hard to accept, but to date no one has produced
> $>> $> visited the Earth. No crashed spacecraft, no bodies, no
> $>> $> library cards, . . ..
> $>> $
> $>> $ No Vulcans? How cruel of you to say so! I'm just crushed.
> $> We just don't have any evidence, the Rosewell crash
> $> notwithstanding, they exist.
> $
> $Roswell was a weather balloon that was subsequently spun off into a whole
> $PsyOps disinfo strategy to cover up US Air Force tests (amongst other
> $things)... That's my reading of it, anyway...
The weather balloon was the official story. Project Mogul,
IIRC.
Of course, even if the object in question wasn't a weather
balloon, it doesn't necessarily follow that it must have
been a UFO. The balloon story could have been a USAF story
to cover for another project they wanted to keep secret.
> $> Actually, when you consider the billions of stars in the
> $> universe, I'd be very surprised if life hasn't developed
> $> elsewhere in the universe. And I'd be surprised if
> $> intelligent life hasn't developed.
> $
> $Me too! They're just very very very very very far away... (Unless what we
> $call UFOs and aliens are actually ultraterrestrials or time travelling
> $future humans or something...)
When you consider what we have discovered in the area of
physics in the past hundred years, who is to say in the next
thousand or ten thousand what we are to discover.
Interdimensional gateways, time travel, and even faster than
light travel are all possibilities.
While Einstien's theory of relativity rules out acceleration
to the speed of light, who it to say that some future
physicist might won't demonstrate relativity is a special
case of an even more general theory where faster than light
travel is possible.
> $> It's just that claims of people like Hoagland aside, no
> $> intelligent species has left a calling card to tell us they
> $> were in the neighbourhood. And to date, we have uncovered
> $> no evidence to suggest life exists elsewhere in the
> $> universe, much less intelligent life.
John Fleming
> $news:dnoef5he2k030ml9b...@4ax.com...
> $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:41:44 -0800, while chained to a desk
> $> in the scriptorium "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $> > $"john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> $> > $news:fZFJm.143241$k74....@newsfe17.ams2...
> $> > $> "John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $> > $> news:dkmdf5tt35h2847a7...@4ax.com...
> $> > $> > On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:17:04 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> $> > $> > desk in the scriptorium Hulahoop <sween...@hotmail.com>
> $> > $> > wrote:
> $> > $> >> $On Nov 8, 3:33 am, AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $> > $> >> $> Matthew Kruk wrote:
> $> > $> >> $>
> $> > $> >> $> > Some physicists have said that time-travelling particles from
> $> > $> >> future
> $> > $> >> $> > could be damaging the machine in an attempt to thwart any
> $> > $> >> experiments.
> $> > $> >> $>
> $> > $> >> $> The Mail loves its fantasies doesn't it.
> $> > $> >> $
> $> > $> >> $It's great journalism isn't it:
> $indication of
> $> > $> >> $what their qualifications to speak on the subject are
> $> > $> >> $
> $> > $> >> $* "time-travelling particles from the future could be damaging
> $> > $> >> $machine in an attempt to thwart any experiments". I like the
> $use of
> $> > $> >> $the words "could be". Equally they "might not be". Who can
> $prove it
> $> > $> >> $one way or the other? Typically lazy journalism from one of the
> $UK's
> $> > $> >> $more squalid little rags. The Mail is definitely one thing I do
> $not
> $> > $> >> $miss about the UK
> $> > $> >
> $> > $> > For all we know, they are quoting some turkey like Richard
> $> > $> >
> $> > $> > Hoagland knows enough science to sound authoratative, but
> $> > $> > with the UFO and the "pyramids of Egypt were built by aliens
> $> > $> > from outer space" crowd.
> $> > $>
> $> > $> You mean they weren't?
> $> > $>
> $> > $Drat! There goes MY belief system.
> $> That's right.
> $>
> $> You'll have to adopt a new belief system.
> $
> $I guess so. There are SO many to choose from. :-)
Or you could just make one up on the fly--kind of like the
doctor does.
peachy ashie passion
Dude! What? The big stone pyramids aren't obvious enough???
What more evidence do you NEED??
John Fleming
in the scriptorium peachy ashie passion
<exquisi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> $John Fleming wrote:
> $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:36:35 -0000, while chained to a desk
> $> in the scriptorium "john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com>
> $> wrote:
> $>> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $>> $news:dkmdf5tt35h2847a7...@4ax.com...
> $>> $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:17:04 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> $>> $> desk in the scriptorium Hulahoop <sween...@hotmail.com>
> $>> $> wrote:
> $>> $>> $On Nov 8, 3:33 am, AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $>> $>> $> Matthew Kruk wrote:
> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $> > Some physicists have said that time-travelling particles from the
> $>> $>> $> > could be damaging the machine in an attempt to thwart any
> $>> $>> experiments.
> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $> The Mail loves its fantasies doesn't it.
> $>> $>> $
> $>> $>> $It's great journalism isn't it:
> $>> $>> $what their qualifications to speak on the subject are
> $>> $>> $
> $>> $>> $* "time-travelling particles from the future could be damaging the
> $>> $>> $the words "could be". Equally they "might not be". Who can prove it
> $>> $>> $one way or the other? Typically lazy journalism from one of the UK's
> $>> $>> $more squalid little rags. The Mail is definitely one thing I do not
> $>> $>> $miss about the UK
> $>> $>
> $>> $> For all we know, they are quoting some turkey like Richard
> $>> $>
> $>> $> Hoagland knows enough science to sound authoratative, but
> $>> $> with the UFO and the "pyramids of Egypt were built by aliens
> $>> $> from outer space" crowd.
> $>> $
> $>> $You mean they weren't?
> $> I know its hard to accept, but to date no one has produced
> $> definitive evidence that aliens from other worlds have ever
> $> visited the Earth. No crashed spacecraft, no bodies, no
> $> library cards, . . ..
> $
> $ Dude! What? The big stone pyramids aren't obvious enough???
> $
> $ What more evidence do you NEED??
A big black obelisk buried on the moon would be a start. ;)
peachy ashie passion
No reason to bother if you are going to let a little thing like
"there is no evidence of that" deter you!
peachy ashie passion
Oh you! You are such a skeptic, you'd call it a natural formation.
John Fleming
> $> in the scriptorium peachy ashie passion
> $> <exquisi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> $>> $John Fleming wrote:
> $>> $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:36:35 -0000, while chained to a desk
> $>> $> in the scriptorium "john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com>
> $>> $> wrote:
> $>> $>> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $>> $>> $news:dkmdf5tt35h2847a7...@4ax.com...
> $>> $>> $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:17:04 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> $>> $>> $> desk in the scriptorium Hulahoop <sween...@hotmail.com>
> $>> $>> $> wrote:
> $>> $>> $>> $On Nov 8, 3:33 am, AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $>> $>> $>> $> Matthew Kruk wrote:
> $>> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $>> $> > Some physicists have said that time-travelling particles from the
> $>> $>> $>> $> > could be damaging the machine in an attempt to thwart any
> $>> $>> $>> experiments.
> $>> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $>> $> The Mail loves its fantasies doesn't it.
> $>> $>> $>> $
> $>> $>> $>> $* "Some physicists" - ie no citations of whom, nor any indication of
> $>> $>> $>> $what their qualifications to speak on the subject are
> $>> $>> $>> $
> $>> $>> $>> $* "time-travelling particles from the future could be damaging the
> $>> $>> $>> $machine in an attempt to thwart any experiments". I like the use of
> $>> $>> $>> $the words "could be". Equally they "might not be". Who can prove it
> $>> $>> $>> $one way or the other? Typically lazy journalism from one of the UK's
> $>> $>> $>> $more squalid little rags. The Mail is definitely one thing I do not
> $>> $>> $>> $miss about the UK
> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $> For all we know, they are quoting some turkey like Richard
> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $> Hoagland knows enough science to sound authoratative, but
> $>> $>> $> with the UFO and the "pyramids of Egypt were built by aliens
> $>> $>> $> from outer space" crowd.
> $>> $>> $
> $>> $>> $You mean they weren't?
> $>> $>
> $>> $> I know its hard to accept, but to date no one has produced
> $>> $> visited the Earth. No crashed spacecraft, no bodies, no
> $>> $> library cards, . . ..
> $>> $
> $>> $ Dude! What? The big stone pyramids aren't obvious enough???
> $>> $
> $>> $ What more evidence do you NEED??
> $> A big black obelisk buried on the moon would be a start. ;)
> $
> $
> $ Oh you! You are such a skeptic, you'd call it a natural formation.
Not if it was done with grace and artistry.
Anyway, given the state of their technology, odds are if we
find obelisks buried on the moon, the ancient Egyptians
didn't put them there.
AlanZarbury
Perhaps they are observing us. Are plants aware that we study them?
Perhaps the aliens are so beyond our comprehension that we aren't aware
of their presence.
AlanZarbury
Exactly. Why would an intelligent life form bother with a species that
still has silly religious beliefs and watches the X-Factor?
If I was an alien I'd just contact the animals and not bother with the
humans.
The Face of Po
Matthew Kruk got out a spraycan and scrawled the following:
> The £4.4 billion 'God Machine' overheated after a passing bird dropped a
> piece of bread into a high voltage installation which was powering a
> cooling unit.
>
[...]
> The series of technical glitches the LHC has suffered has resulted in
> some members of the scientific world speculating the machine is being
> sabotaged - by itself.
>
> Some physicists have said that time-travelling particles from the future
> could be damaging the machine in an attempt to thwart any experiments.
[Pan up to show the TARDIS, unsteadily hovering as in the chase scene in
"Runaway Bride". The door is open and the Doctor is leaning out with an
unbranded sliced loaf in one hand. He picks out a slice, tears off a
chunk and stuffs the rest into his mouth. He closes one eye, checks the
line and drops the piece, watching it drop out of shot. A few seconds
later, he grins and turns back into the TARDIS.]
DOCTOR: [still chewing] See, the Celestial Intervention Agency used
to do this kind of thing. Now it's all down to me.
--
Happiness will prevail
The Doctor
The Doctor
2 noisy trolls for you.
The Doctor
The Doctor
Loaf of Bread
> In article <bhsef55sqadsh13d8lpbdogcmrrjaud...@4ax.com>,
> John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:30:52 -0800, while chained to a desk
> >in the scriptorium "pandora" <pand...@peak.org> wrote:
> >> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> >> $news:rkoef5dpg7fiff6qp...@4ax.com...
> >> $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:36:35 -0000, while chained to a desk
> >> $> wrote:
> >> $> > $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> >> $> > $news:dkmdf5tt35h2847a7...@4ax.com...
> >> $> > $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:17:04 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
Area 53?
It's Area 51 turkey.
john smith
"AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in message
They may want to eat us or steal our water or feed on our negative energy a
la H.P. Lovecraft. (Charles Fort once said, viz UFOs, that "Humans are
cattle.") It's never good when a superior technological culture collides
with an inferior one...
pandora
I find that very sad.
> Actually, when you consider the billions of stars in the
> universe, I'd be very surprised if life hasn't developed
> elsewhere in the universe. And I'd be surprised if
> intelligent life hasn't developed.
I would certainly hope so. I mean, if WE are the best there
is out there......well, I feel sorry for the universe.
> It's just that claims of people like Hoagland aside, no
> intelligent species has left a calling card to tell us they
> were in the neighbourhood. And to date, we have uncovered
> no evidence to suggest life exists elsewhere in the
> universe, much less intelligent life.
Well, there may be life, but not as we know it. And we might not
even recognize *intelligent* life if we saw/encountered it.
pandora
pandora
Yes, it very well could be.
> > $> Actually, when you consider the billions of stars in the
> > $> universe, I'd be very surprised if life hasn't developed
> > $> elsewhere in the universe. And I'd be surprised if
> > $> intelligent life hasn't developed.
> > $
> > $Me too! They're just very very very very very far away... (Unless
what we
> > $call UFOs and aliens are actually ultraterrestrials or time travelling
> > $future humans or something...)
>
> When you consider what we have discovered in the area of
> physics in the past hundred years, who is to say in the next
> thousand or ten thousand what we are to discover.
That is, IF we are still around.
> Interdimensional gateways, time travel, and even faster than
> light travel are all possibilities.
You've been watching Stargate, right? :-)
pandora
I kinda like the Flying Spaghetti Monster, myself. :-)
pandora
"peachy ashie passion" <exquisi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hd82m...@news5.newsguy.com...
Yeah!! He's just being stubborn. After all, *humans* couldn't have
been *that* smart way back when.
[sarcasm for the sarcasm impaired]
pandora
But, but, but......I've SEEN flying spaghetti. So there!
PV
> On Nov 9, 8:27 am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> In article <bhsef55sqadsh13d8lpbdogcmrrjaud...@4ax.com>,
>> John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
<snip>
>>> It's just that claims of people like Hoagland aside, no
>>> intelligent species has left a calling card to tell us they
>>> were in the neighbourhood. And to date, we have uncovered
>>> no evidence to suggest life exists elsewhere in the
>>> universe, much less intelligent life.
>>
>> You have to love Area 53 in Nevada.
>
> Area 53?
>
> It's Area 51 turkey.
He's probably thinking of the next door neighbor to Area 51
--
PV
Stupidity is a condition
Ignorance is a choice
pandora
"AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in message
hiding in the Fraser River in Vancouver, BC. :-)
AlanZarbury
Ah, but maybe Area 53 is where they keep Jesus? LOL!
AlanZarbury
That's right. One only has to watch tv or read the popular press to see
that humans get smarter with each generation.
[Also sarcasm] :)
Mr.Smartypants
The Rapture Space Shuttle is kept there.
pandora
"AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in message
Hehehehehehehehe.
pandora
"Mr.Smartypants" <bunghol...@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:c0c614ee-6602-4641...@w37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
***You mean......the MOTHA SHIP?
The Doctor
ZZZ!!!
The Doctor
AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
>Loaf of Bread wrote:
2 freak trolls for you
The Doctor
The Doctor
Mr.Smartypants <bunghol...@lycos.com> wrote:
# trolls on a high noise-to-signal ration for you.
John Fleming
in the scriptorium AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $John Fleming wrote:
> $> I don't know. They might view us as a good case study in
> $> the early development of primitive species.
> $
> $Perhaps they are observing us. Are plants aware that we study them?
> $Perhaps the aliens are so beyond our comprehension that we aren't aware
> $of their presence.
That is quite possible.
If they are here from another star system, it is reasonable
to conclude they are centuries, if not millenia, ahead of us
in terms of technology.
Further, they might be able to hide their presence in ways
that make US stealth technology look incredibly primitive by
comparison.
John Fleming
in the scriptorium AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $> "AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in message
> $> news:KvqdnSkM7MvO-WrX...@bt.com...
> $>> John Fleming wrote:
> $>>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:36:35 -0000, while chained to a desk
> $>>> in the scriptorium "john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com>
> $>>> wrote:
> $>>>> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $>>>> $news:dkmdf5tt35h2847a7...@4ax.com...
> $>>>> $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:17:04 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> $>>>> $> desk in the scriptorium Hulahoop <sween...@hotmail.com>
> $>>>> $> wrote:
> $>>>> $>> $On Nov 8, 3:33 am, AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $>>>> $>> $> Matthew Kruk wrote:
> $>>>> $>> $>
> $>>>> $>> $> > Some physicists have said that time-travelling particles from
> $>>>> $>> $> > could be damaging the machine in an attempt to thwart any $>>
> $>>>> $>> $>
> $>>>> $>> $> The Mail loves its fantasies doesn't it.
> $>>>> $>> $
> $>>>> $>> $It's great journalism isn't it:
> $>>>> of
> $>>>> $>> $what their qualifications to speak on the subject are
> $>>>> $>> $
> $>>>> $>> $* "time-travelling particles from the future could be damaging
> $>>>> $>> $machine in an attempt to thwart any experiments". I like the use
> $>>>> of
> $>>>> $>> $the words "could be". Equally they "might not be". Who can prove
> $>>>> it
> $>>>> $>> $one way or the other? Typically lazy journalism from one of the
> $>>>> UK's
> $>>>> $>> $more squalid little rags. The Mail is definitely one thing I do
> $>>>> not
> $>>>> $>> $miss about the UK
> $>>>> $>
> $>>>> $> For all we know, they are quoting some turkey like Richard
> $>>>> $>
> $>>>> $> Hoagland knows enough science to sound authoratative, but
> $>>>> $> with the UFO and the "pyramids of Egypt were built by aliens
> $>>>> $> from outer space" crowd.
> $>>>> $
> $>>>> $You mean they weren't?
> $>>> definitive evidence that aliens from other worlds have ever
> $>>> visited the Earth. No crashed spacecraft, no bodies, no
> $>>> library cards, . . ..
> $>>>
> $>> Presumably aliens are too intelligent to bother with humans.
> $>>
> $>
> $>
> $>
> $> (SINGS)
> $>
> $> "And pray that there's intelligent life
> $> Somewhere up in space
> $> 'Cause there's bugger all
> $> Down here on Earth..."
> $>
> $> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buqtdpuZxvk
> $>
> $>
> $
> $Exactly. Why would an intelligent life form bother with a species that
> $still has silly religious beliefs and watches the X-Factor?
> $
> $If I was an alien I'd just contact the animals and not bother with the
> $humans.
Maybe they already have.
AlanZarbury
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:32:53 +0000, while chained to a desk
> in the scriptorium AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
>> $John Fleming wrote:
>
>> $> I don't know. They might view us as a good case study in
>> $> the early development of primitive species.
>> $
>> $Perhaps they are observing us. Are plants aware that we study them?
>> $Perhaps the aliens are so beyond our comprehension that we aren't aware
>> $of their presence.
>
> That is quite possible.
>
> If they are here from another star system, it is reasonable
> to conclude they are centuries, if not millenia, ahead of us
> in terms of technology.
>
> Further, they might be able to hide their presence in ways
> that make US stealth technology look incredibly primitive by
> comparison.
>
Perhaps they're so advanced that they're "one with the universe" and can
comfortably observe us from their own world?
Or perhaps we're no more important to them than a speck of dust.
The Doctor
The Doctor
pandora <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
>
>"Mr.Smartypants" <bunghol...@lycos.com> wrote in message
>news:c0c614ee-6602-4641...@w37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>On Nov 9, 3:17 pm, AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
>> Loaf of Bread wrote:
Too many troll polluting this thread.
Stephen Wilson
"pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote in message
news:64adndYpEZpa4GXX...@scnresearch.com...
But have you ever been touched by a noodly appendage?
The Doctor
John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:32:53 +0000, while chained to a desk
>in the scriptorium AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
>> $John Fleming wrote:
>
>> $> I don't know. They might view us as a good case study in
>> $> the early development of primitive species.
>> $
>> $Perhaps they are observing us. Are plants aware that we study them?
>> $Perhaps the aliens are so beyond our comprehension that we aren't aware
>> $of their presence.
>
>That is quite possible.
>
>If they are here from another star system, it is reasonable
>to conclude they are centuries, if not millenia, ahead of us
>in terms of technology.
>
>Further, they might be able to hide their presence in ways
>that make US stealth technology look incredibly primitive by
>comparison.
>
Anyone for Krynoids?
The Doctor
John Fleming
in the scriptorium "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:08:03 -0800, while chained to a desk> $> > $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $> > $news:dnoef5he2k030ml9b...@4ax.com...
> $> > $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:41:44 -0800, while chained to a desk
> $> > $> in the scriptorium "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $> > $> > $"john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> $> > $> > $news:fZFJm.143241$k74....@newsfe17.ams2...
> $> > $> > $> "John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $> > $> > $> news:dkmdf5tt35h2847a7...@4ax.com...
> $> > $> > $> > On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:17:04 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> $> > $> > $> > desk in the scriptorium Hulahoop <sween...@hotmail.com>
> $> > $> > $> > wrote:
> $> > $> > $> >> $On Nov 8, 3:33 am, AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $> > $> > $> >> $> Matthew Kruk wrote:
> $> > $> > $> >> $>
> $> > $> > $> >> $> > Some physicists have said that time-travelling particles
> $> > $the
> $> > $> > $> >> future
> $> > $> > $> >> $> > could be damaging the machine in an attempt to thwart
> $any
> $> > $> > $> >> experiments.
> $> > $> > $> >> $>
> $> > $> > $> >> $> The Mail loves its fantasies doesn't it.
> $> > $> > $> >> $
> $> > $> > $> >> $* "Some physicists" - ie no citations of whom, nor any
> $> > $indication of
> $> > $> > $> >> $what their qualifications to speak on the subject are
> $> > $> > $> >> $
> $> > $> > $> >> $* "time-travelling particles from the future could be
> $damaging
> $> > $the
> $> > $> > $> >> $machine in an attempt to thwart any experiments". I like
> $the
> $> > $use of
> $> > $> > $> >> $the words "could be". Equally they "might not be". Who can
> $> > $prove it
> $> > $> > $> >> $one way or the other? Typically lazy journalism from one
> $of the
> $> > $UK's
> $> > $> > $> >> $more squalid little rags. The Mail is definitely one thing
> $I do
> $> > $not
> $> > $> > $> >> $miss about the UK
> $> > $> > $> >
> $> > $> > $> > For all we know, they are quoting some turkey like Richard
> $> > $> > $> >
> $> > $> > $> > Hoagland knows enough science to sound authoratative, but
> $> > $> > $> > with the UFO and the "pyramids of Egypt were built by aliens
> $> > $> > $> > from outer space" crowd.
> $> > $> > $>
> $> > $> > $> You mean they weren't?
> $> > $> > $>
> $> > $> > $Drat! There goes MY belief system.
> $> > $>
> $> > $> That's right.
> $> > $>
> $> > $> You'll have to adopt a new belief system.
> $> > $
> $> > $I guess so. There are SO many to choose from. :-)
> $> Or you could just make one up on the fly--kind of like the
> $> doctor does.
> $
> $I kinda like the Flying Spaghetti Monster, myself. :-)
LOL
I'll pick one that lets me explore the left hand path of
Tantra. I think that would be more fun that trying to be a
Christian as envisioned by the doctor.
John Fleming
in the scriptorium "Stephen Wilson"
<stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> $"pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote in message
> $news:64adndYpEZpa4GXX...@scnresearch.com...
> $> "peachy ashie passion" <exquisi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> $> news:hd82v...@news5.newsguy.com...> $>> > news:dnoef5he2k030ml9b...@4ax.com...
> $>> >> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:41:44 -0800, while chained to a desk
> $>> >> in the scriptorium "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $>> >>> $"john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> $>> >>> $news:fZFJm.143241$k74....@newsfe17.ams2...
> $>> >>> $> "John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $>> >>> $> news:dkmdf5tt35h2847a7...@4ax.com...
> $>> >>> $> > On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:17:04 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> $>> >>> $> > desk in the scriptorium Hulahoop <sween...@hotmail.com>
> $>> >>> $> > wrote:
> $>> >>> $> >> $On Nov 8, 3:33 am, AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $>> >>> $> >> $> Matthew Kruk wrote:
> $>> >>> $> >> $>
> $>> >>> $> >> $> > Some physicists have said that time-travelling particles
> $>> > the
> $>> >>> $> >> future
> $>> >>> $> >> $> > could be damaging the machine in an attempt to thwart any
> $>> >>> $> >> experiments.
> $>> >>> $> >> $>
> $>> >>> $> >> $> The Mail loves its fantasies doesn't it.
> $>> >>> $> >> $
> $>> >>> $> >> $It's great journalism isn't it:
> $>> > indication of
> $>> >>> $> >> $what their qualifications to speak on the subject are
> $>> >>> $> >> $
> $>> >>> $> >> $* "time-travelling particles from the future could be
> $>> > the
> $>> >>> $> >> $machine in an attempt to thwart any experiments". I like the
> $>> > use of
> $>> >>> $> >> $the words "could be". Equally they "might not be". Who can
> $>> > prove it
> $>> >>> $> >> $one way or the other? Typically lazy journalism from one of
> $> the
> $>> > UK's
> $>> >>> $> >> $more squalid little rags. The Mail is definitely one thing I
> $> do
> $>> > not
> $>> >>> $> >> $miss about the UK
> $>> >>> $> >
> $>> >>> $> > For all we know, they are quoting some turkey like Richard
> $>> >>> $> >
> $>> >>> $> > Hoagland knows enough science to sound authoratative, but
> $>> >>> $> > with the UFO and the "pyramids of Egypt were built by aliens
> $>> >>> $> > from outer space" crowd.
> $>> >>> $>
> $>> >>> $> You mean they weren't?
> $>> >>> $>
> $>> >>> $Drat! There goes MY belief system.
> $>> >>
> $>> >
> $>> > I guess so. There are SO many to choose from. :-)
> $>> >
> $>>
> $>> No reason to bother if you are going to let a little thing like
> $>> "there is no evidence of that" deter you!
> $>
> $> But, but, but......I've SEEN flying spaghetti. So there!
> $
> $But have you ever been touched by a noodly appendage?
There was a grey green one that reached out to touch me from
a blob sitting on a plate in the fridge.
At that point, I decided I was overdue to clean out the
fridge.
John Fleming
in the scriptorium "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $"AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in message
> $news:q8KdnSJi2vgCYGrX...@bt.com...
> $> John Fleming wrote:
> $> > On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:38:50 +0000, while chained to a desk
> $> > in the scriptorium AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $> >> $John Fleming wrote:
> $> >> $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:36:35 -0000, while chained to a desk
> $> >> $> in the scriptorium "john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com>
> $> >> $> wrote:
> $> >> $>> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $> >> $>> $news:dkmdf5tt35h2847a7...@4ax.com...
> $> >> $>> $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:17:04 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> $> >> $>> $> desk in the scriptorium Hulahoop <sween...@hotmail.com>
> $> >> $>> $> wrote:
> $> >> $>> $>> $On Nov 8, 3:33 am, AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $> >> $>> $>> $> Matthew Kruk wrote:
> $> >> $>> $>> $>
> $> >> $>> $>> $> > Some physicists have said that time-travelling particles
> $> >> $>> $>> future
> $> >> $>> $>> $> > could be damaging the machine in an attempt to thwart any
> $> >> $>> $>> experiments.
> $> >> $>> $>> $>
> $> >> $>> $>> $> The Mail loves its fantasies doesn't it.
> $> >> $>> $>> $
> $> >> $>> $>> $* "Some physicists" - ie no citations of whom, nor any
> $indication of
> $> >> $>> $>> $what their qualifications to speak on the subject are
> $> >> $>> $>> $
> $> >> $>> $>> $* "time-travelling particles from the future could be
> $damaging the
> $> >> $>> $>> $machine in an attempt to thwart any experiments". I like the
> $use of
> $> >> $>> $>> $the words "could be". Equally they "might not be". Who can
> $prove it
> $> >> $>> $>> $one way or the other? Typically lazy journalism from one of
> $the UK's
> $> >> $>> $>> $more squalid little rags. The Mail is definitely one thing I
> $do not
> $> >> $>> $>> $miss about the UK
> $> >> $>> $>
> $> >> $>> $> For all we know, they are quoting some turkey like Richard
> $> >> $>> $>
> $> >> $>> $> Hoagland knows enough science to sound authoratative, but
> $> >> $>> $> with the UFO and the "pyramids of Egypt were built by aliens
> $> >> $>> $> from outer space" crowd.
> $> >> $>> $
> $> >> $>> $You mean they weren't?
> $> >> $>
> $> >> $> I know its hard to accept, but to date no one has produced
> $> >> $> visited the Earth. No crashed spacecraft, no bodies, no
> $> >> $> library cards, . . ..
> $> >> $
> $> >> $Presumably aliens are too intelligent to bother with humans.
> $> > I don't know. They might view us as a good case study in
> $> > the early development of primitive species.
> $>
> $> Perhaps they are observing us. Are plants aware that we study them?
> $> Perhaps the aliens are so beyond our comprehension that we aren't aware
> $> of their presence.
> $>
> $Heh. I wrote a story about that once upon a time. Alien spaceships were
> $hiding in the Fraser River in Vancouver, BC. :-)
Those were pretty crazy aliens then.
I figure, they would have been better off hiding in the
ocean in the general vicinity of Hawaii.
John Fleming
in the scriptorium AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $John Fleming wrote:
> $> in the scriptorium AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $>> $John Fleming wrote:
> $>
> $>> $> the early development of primitive species.
> $>> $
> $>> $Perhaps they are observing us. Are plants aware that we study them?
> $>> $of their presence.
> $>
> $> That is quite possible.
> $>
> $> If they are here from another star system, it is reasonable
> $> to conclude they are centuries, if not millenia, ahead of us
> $> in terms of technology.
> $>
> $> Further, they might be able to hide their presence in ways
> $> that make US stealth technology look incredibly primitive by
> $> comparison.
> $>
> $
> $Perhaps they're so advanced that they're "one with the universe" and can
> $comfortably observe us from their own world?
I wouldn't rule that out.
Our own comparatively primitive technology is already at the
point where we can detect planets orbiting other stars, and
could even possibly detect a Titan sized moon orbiting a gas
giant orbiting another star.
Who's to say that an alien civilization with a couple of
thousand years head start on us technologically couldn't
produce a half decent street map of New York or London
without ever leaving the comfort of home. Home, of course,
being a couple of hundred light years away.
> $Or perhaps we're no more important to them than a speck of dust.
john smith
"AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in message
Better not even ask about Area 666!
>
John Fleming
in the scriptorium "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $> When you consider what we have discovered in the area of
> $> physics in the past hundred years, who is to say in the next
> $> thousand or ten thousand what we are to discover.
> $
> $That is, IF we are still around.
I suspect we probably will be. If we survive as a species
for another hundred years, I figure we will probably have
colonies on moons and other planets in our own solar system,
and this will greatly increase the odds of humanity
surviving a bit longer.
> $> Interdimensional gateways, time travel, and even faster than
> $> light travel are all possibilities.
> $
> $You've been watching Stargate, right? :-)
I really enjoyed that movie when it came out. In fact, I
saw it twice.
Never got into the TV series though.
AlanZarbury
I don't even think of them as having "technology". I think that's a
purely human concept. These aliens would be so alien they'd just be
aware of everything.
Or not. It's all mere conjecture of course. But somehow I can't see them
being tv/movie aliens with spaceships and humanoid form, - and certainly
not a fucking stupid military command structure, or religion, like
they're often portrayed on tv. Hopefully that's something only us
backward humans are guilty of. I'd hope any intelligent aliens are far
too advanced for military crap or religious mumbo jumbo.
AlanZarbury
> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:24:39 -0800, while chained to a desk
> in the scriptorium "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
>> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
>> $news:miuef51tfu6spa6ih...@4ax.com...
>
>> $> When you consider what we have discovered in the area of
>> $> physics in the past hundred years, who is to say in the next
>> $> thousand or ten thousand what we are to discover.
>> $
>> $That is, IF we are still around.
>
> I suspect we probably will be. If we survive as a species
> for another hundred years, I figure we will probably have
> colonies on moons and other planets in our own solar system,
> and this will greatly increase the odds of humanity
> surviving a bit longer.
>
>> $> Interdimensional gateways, time travel, and even faster than
>> $> light travel are all possibilities.
>> $
>> $You've been watching Stargate, right? :-)
>
> I really enjoyed that movie when it came out. In fact, I
> saw it twice.
>
> Never got into the TV series though.
>
The guy wearing the eye shadow put me off it right from the start.
john smith
"AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in message
news:c6adnRSjveAwCWXX...@bt.com...
Or - another idea - why don't they just clone Him from the blood on the
Turin Shroud?
powrwrap
> The £4.4 billion 'God Machine' overheated after a passing bird dropped a
> piece of bread into a high voltage installation which was powering a
> cooling unit.
>
> Scientists looking into a failure of the cryogenic cooling plant found a
> piece of baguette had caused the malfunction.
>
> The problem was noticed by enthusiasts who were online monitoring data
> online and noticed unusual temperature changes.
1. Bread is not a conductor.
2. How do they know a bird dropped the bread?
3. How do they know it was bread? Wouldn't it have been zapped into
ashes?
AlanZarbury
They did, twice. But when they realised their mistake they let the
clones go and they ended up on X-Factor.
john smith
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:32:53 +0000, while chained to a desk
> in the scriptorium AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
>> $John Fleming wrote:
>
>> $> I don't know. They might view us as a good case study in
>> $> the early development of primitive species.
>> $
>> $Perhaps they are observing us. Are plants aware that we study them?
>> $Perhaps the aliens are so beyond our comprehension that we aren't aware
>> $of their presence.
>
> That is quite possible.
>
> If they are here from another star system, it is reasonable
> to conclude they are centuries, if not millenia, ahead of us
> in terms of technology.
>
> Further, they might be able to hide their presence in ways
> that make US stealth technology look incredibly primitive by
> comparison.
>
Are you guys aware of the Kardashev scale?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale
Perhaps the aliens - if they exist - are at Level IV: masters of Time and
Space and all reality...
john smith
GoogleUniverse(s)! Why not?
john smith
Cetaceans! Brad Steiger! That "Star Trek" film with the whales!
Can't be arsed Googling it: see if you lot can...
John Fleming
the scriptorium "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
> $Loaf of Bread wrote:
> $> On Nov 9, 8:27 am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> $>> In article <bhsef55sqadsh13d8lpbdogcmrrjaud...@4ax.com>,
> $>> John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> $
> $<snip>
> $
> $>>> It's just that claims of people like Hoagland aside, no
> $>>> intelligent species has left a calling card to tell us they
> $>>> were in the neighbourhood. And to date, we have uncovered
> $>>> no evidence to suggest life exists elsewhere in the
> $>>> universe, much less intelligent life.
> $>>
> $>> You have to love Area 53 in Nevada.
> $>
> $> Area 53?
> $>
> $> It's Area 51 turkey.
> $
> $He's probably thinking of the next door neighbor to Area 51
LOL
Anyway, Area 51 is one of the most secretive military
locations in the US.
John Fleming
in the scriptorium AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $Loaf of Bread wrote:
> $> On Nov 9, 8:27 am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> $>> In article <bhsef55sqadsh13d8lpbdogcmrrjaud...@4ax.com>,
> $> Area 53?
> $>
> $> It's Area 51 turkey.
> $
> $Ah, but maybe Area 53 is where they keep Jesus? LOL!
That's a possibility.
John Fleming
in the scriptorium "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $"Mr.Smartypants" <bunghol...@lycos.com> wrote in message
> $news:c0c614ee-6602-4641...@w37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> $On Nov 9, 3:17 pm, AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $> Loaf of Bread wrote:
> $> > On Nov 9, 8:27 am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> $> >> In article <bhsef55sqadsh13d8lpbdogcmrrjaud...@4ax.com>,
> $> >>> in the scriptorium "pandora" <pand...@peak.org> wrote:
> $> >>>> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $> >>>> $news:rkoef5dpg7fiff6qp...@4ax.com...
> $> >>>> $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:36:35 -0000, while chained to a desk
> $> >>>> $> in the scriptorium "john smith" <the_johnsm...@ntlworld.com>
> $> >>>> $> wrote:
> $> >>>> $> > $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $> >>>> $> > $news:dkmdf5tt35h2847a7...@4ax.com...
> $> >>>> $> > $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:17:04 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> $> >>>> $> > $> desk in the scriptorium Hulahoop <sweeney...@hotmail.com>
> $> >>>> $> > $> wrote:
> $> >>>> $> > $>> $On Nov 8, 3:33 am, AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $> >>>> $> > $>> $> Matthew Kruk wrote:
> $> >>>> $> > $>> $>
> $> >>>> $> > $>> $> > Some physicists have said that time-travelling
> $> >>>> $the
> $> >>>> $> > $>> future
> $> >>>> $> > $>> $> > could be damaging the machine in an attempt to thwart
> $any
> $> >>>> $> > $>> experiments.
> $> >>>> $> > $>> $>
> $> >>>> $> > $>> $> The Mail loves its fantasies doesn't it.
> $> >>>> $> > $>> $
> $> >>>> $> > $>> $* "Some physicists" - ie no citations of whom, nor any
> $indication
> $> >>>> $of
> $> >>>> $> > $>> $what their qualifications to speak on the subject are
> $> >>>> $> > $>> $
> $> >>>> $> > $>> $* "time-travelling particles from the future could be
> $damaging
> $> >>>> $the
> $> >>>> $> > $>> $machine in an attempt to thwart any experiments". I like
> $the use
> $> >>>> $of
> $> >>>> $> > $>> $the words "could be". Equally they "might not be". Who can
> $prove
> $> >>>> $it
> $> >>>> $> > $>> $one way or the other? Typically lazy journalism from one of
> $the
> $> >>>> $UK's
> $> >>>> $> > $>> $more squalid little rags. The Mail is definitely one thing
> $I do
> $> >>>> $not
> $> >>>> $> > $>
> $> >>>> $> > $> For all we know, they are quoting some turkey like Richard
> $> >>>> $> > $>
> $> >>>> $> > $> Hoagland knows enough science to sound authoratative, but
> $> >>>> $> > $> with the UFO and the "pyramids of Egypt were built by aliens
> $> >>>> $> > $> from outer space" crowd.
> $> >>>> $> > $
> $> >>>> $> > $You mean they weren't?
> $> >>>> $> I know its hard to accept, but to date no one has produced
> $> >>>> $> definitive evidence that aliens from other worlds have ever
> $> >>>> $> visited the Earth. No crashed spacecraft, no bodies, no
> $> >>>> $> library cards, . . ..
> $> >>>> $
> $> >>>> $ No Vulcans? How cruel of you to say so! I'm just crushed.
> $> >>> notwithstanding, they exist.
> $> >>> Actually, when you consider the billions of stars in the
> $> >>> universe, I'd be very surprised if life hasn't developed
> $> >>> elsewhere in the universe. And I'd be surprised if
> $> >>> intelligent life hasn't developed.
> $> >>> It's just that claims of people like Hoagland aside, no
> $> >>> intelligent species has left a calling card to tell us they
> $> >>> were in the neighbourhood. And to date, we have uncovered
> $> >>> no evidence to suggest life exists elsewhere in the
> $> >>> universe, much less intelligent life.
> $> >> You have to love Area 53 in Nevada.
> $>
> $>
> $> > It's Area 51 turkey.
> $>
> $
> $
> $The Rapture Space Shuttle is kept there.
> $
> $***You mean......the MOTHA SHIP?
No, that was parked in the tail of Comet Hale-Bop.
This is clearly the transport sent by the mother ship to
whisk believers to safety.
AlanZarbury
>
>
> No, that was parked in the tail of Comet Hale-Bop.
>
> This is clearly the transport sent by the mother ship to
> whisk believers to safety.
>
I'm more interested in the tail of Hallie Berry. :)
John Fleming
in the scriptorium "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $> We just don't have any evidence, the Rosewell crash
> $> notwithstanding, they exist.
> $
> $I find that very sad.
> $
> $> Actually, when you consider the billions of stars in the
> $> universe, I'd be very surprised if life hasn't developed
> $> elsewhere in the universe. And I'd be surprised if
> $> intelligent life hasn't developed.
> $
> $I would certainly hope so. I mean, if WE are the best there
> $is out there......well, I feel sorry for the universe.
Yes, I feel.
> $> It's just that claims of people like Hoagland aside, no
> $> intelligent species has left a calling card to tell us they
> $> were in the neighbourhood. And to date, we have uncovered
> $> no evidence to suggest life exists elsewhere in the
> $> universe, much less intelligent life.
> $
> $Well, there may be life, but not as we know it. And we might not
> $even recognize *intelligent* life if we saw/encountered it.
That's a very real possibility.
We tend to look for life as we would recognize it. So
people doing these kinds of searches in the astronomy and
astrophysics communities are trying to "follow the water",
and the planets of interest will be Earth like planets
orbiting in stellar "Goldilocks zones".
But even life on these worlds may be something we wouldn't
recognize.
john smith
Cool! I've been up and down that path myself a few times...
John Fleming
in the scriptorium AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $pandora wrote:
> $> "peachy ashie passion" <exquisi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> $> news:hd82m...@news5.newsguy.com...
> $>> John Fleming wrote:
> $>>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:36:35 -0000, while chained to a desk
> $>>> in the scriptorium "john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com>> $>>>> $news:dkmdf5tt35h2847a7...@4ax.com...
> $>>>> $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:17:04 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> $>>>> $> desk in the scriptorium Hulahoop <sween...@hotmail.com>
> $>>>> $>> $On Nov 8, 3:33 am, AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $>>>> $>> $> Matthew Kruk wrote:
> $>>>> $>> $>
> $> the
> $>>>> $>> future
> $>>>> $>> $> > could be damaging the machine in an attempt to thwart any
> $>>>> $>> experiments.
> $>>>> $>> $>
> $>>>> $>> $> The Mail loves its fantasies doesn't it.
> $>>>> $>> $
> $>>>> $>> $It's great journalism isn't it:
> $>>>> $>> $* "Some physicists" - ie no citations of whom, nor any
> $>>>> $>> $what their qualifications to speak on the subject are
> $>>>> $>> $
> $> the
> $>>>> $>> $machine in an attempt to thwart any experiments". I like the use
> $> of
> $>>>> $>> $the words "could be". Equally they "might not be". Who can prove
> $> it
> $>>>> $>> $one way or the other? Typically lazy journalism from one of the
> $> UK's
> $> not
> $>>>> $>> $miss about the UK
> $>>>> $>
> $>>>> $> For all we know, they are quoting some turkey like Richard
> $>>>> $> C. Hoagland.
> $>>>> $>
> $>>>> $> Hoagland knows enough science to sound authoratative, but
> $>>>> $> with a little digging, you realize he would fit in nicely
> $>>>> $> with the UFO and the "pyramids of Egypt were built by aliens
> $>>>> $> from outer space" crowd.
> $>>>> $
> $>>> I know its hard to accept, but to date no one has produced
> $>>> definitive evidence that aliens from other worlds have ever
> $>>> visited the Earth. No crashed spacecraft, no bodies, no
> $>>> library cards, . . ..
> $>>
> $>> What more evidence do you NEED??
> $>
> $> Yeah!! He's just being stubborn. After all, *humans* couldn't have
> $> been *that* smart way back when.
> $>
> $> [sarcasm for the sarcasm impaired]
> $>
> $>
> $
> $That's right. One only has to watch tv or read the popular press to see
> $that humans get smarter with each generation.
> $
> $[Also sarcasm] :)
Ah, but as someone once observed, the total intelligence
available on the planet is a constant, and the population is
increasing.
john smith
"Stephen Wilson" <stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:eD2Km.10779$JI4....@newsfe21.ams2...
Or been doodled on by one?
Remember Jon Pertwee's "Noodle Doodle Man" adverts way back when?
>
john smith
You should have let it be. Who know's what ultradimensional supersentient
organism it might have evolved into?
John Fleming
in the scriptorium "john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com>> $news:trfhf516ibkrnajer...@4ax.com...
> $> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:29:38 -0800, while chained to a desk
> $> in the scriptorium "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $>> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $>> $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:08:03 -0800, while chained to a desk> $>> $> > $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $>> $> > $news:dnoef5he2k030ml9b...@4ax.com...
> $>> $> > $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:41:44 -0800, while chained to a desk
> $>> $> > $> in the scriptorium "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $>> $> > $> > $"john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> $>> $> > $> > $news:fZFJm.143241$k74....@newsfe17.ams2...
> $>> $> > $> > $> "John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $>> $> > $> > $> news:dkmdf5tt35h2847a7...@4ax.com...
> $>> $> > $> > $> > On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:17:04 -0800 (PST), while chained to
> $>> a
> $>> $> > $> > $> > desk in the scriptorium Hulahoop <sween...@hotmail.com>
> $>> $> > $> > $> > wrote:
> $>> $> > $> > $> >> $On Nov 8, 3:33 am, AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo>
> $>> wrote:
> $>> $> > $> > $> >> $> Matthew Kruk wrote:
> $>> $> > $> > $> >> $>
> $>> $> > $> > $> >> $> > Some physicists have said that time-travelling
> $>> $from
> $>> $> > $the
> $>> $> > $> > $> >> future
> $>> $> > $> > $> >> $> > could be damaging the machine in an attempt to
> $>> thwart
> $>> $any
> $>> $> > $> > $> >> experiments.
> $>> $> > $> > $> >> $>
> $>> $> > $> > $> >> $> The Mail loves its fantasies doesn't it.
> $>> $> > $> > $> >> $
> $>> $> > $> > $> >> $* "Some physicists" - ie no citations of whom, nor any
> $>> $> > $indication of
> $>> $> > $> > $> >> $what their qualifications to speak on the subject are
> $>> $> > $> > $> >> $
> $>> $damaging
> $>> $> > $the
> $>> $> > $> > $> >> $machine in an attempt to thwart any experiments". I
> $>> like
> $>> $the
> $>> $> > $use of
> $>> $> > $> > $> >> $the words "could be". Equally they "might not be". Who
> $>> can
> $>> $> > $prove it
> $>> $> > $> > $> >> $one way or the other? Typically lazy journalism from
> $>> one
> $>> $of the
> $>> $> > $UK's
> $>> $> > $> > $> >> $more squalid little rags. The Mail is definitely one
> $>> thing
> $>> $I do
> $>> $> > $not
> $>> $> > $> > $> >> $miss about the UK
> $>> $> > $> > $> >
> $>> $> > $> > $> > For all we know, they are quoting some turkey like Richard
> $>> $> > $> > $> >
> $>> $> > $> > $> > Hoagland knows enough science to sound authoratative, but
> $>> $> > $> > $> > with the UFO and the "pyramids of Egypt were built by
> $>> aliens
> $>> $> > $> > $> > from outer space" crowd.
> $>> $> > $> > $>
> $>> $> > $> > $> You mean they weren't?
> $>> $> > $> > $>
> $>> $> > $> > $Drat! There goes MY belief system.
> $>> $> > $>
> $>> $> > $> That's right.
> $>> $> > $>
> $>> $> > $> You'll have to adopt a new belief system.
> $>> $> > $
> $>> $> > $I guess so. There are SO many to choose from. :-)
> $>> $>
> $>> $> Or you could just make one up on the fly--kind of like the
> $>> $
> $>> $I kinda like the Flying Spaghetti Monster, myself. :-)
> $> LOL
> $>
> $> I'll pick one that lets me explore the left hand path of
> $> Tantra.
> $
> $Cool! I've been up and down that path myself a few times...
Any advice for a neophyte like me? ;)
John Fleming
in the scriptorium AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $John Fleming wrote:
> $> in the scriptorium AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $>> $John Fleming wrote:
> $>> $> in the scriptorium AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $>> $>> $John Fleming wrote:
> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $> I don't know. They might view us as a good case study in
> $>> $>> $
> $>> $>> $Perhaps they are observing us. Are plants aware that we study them?
> $>> $>> $of their presence.
> $>> $>
> $>> $> That is quite possible.
> $>> $>
> $>> $> If they are here from another star system, it is reasonable
> $>> $> in terms of technology.
> $>> $>
> $>> $> Further, they might be able to hide their presence in ways
> $>> $> comparison.
> $>> $>
> $>> $
> $>> $Perhaps they're so advanced that they're "one with the universe" and can
> $>> $comfortably observe us from their own world?
> $>
> $> I wouldn't rule that out.
> $>
> $> Our own comparatively primitive technology is already at the
> $> point where we can detect planets orbiting other stars, and
> $> could even possibly detect a Titan sized moon orbiting a gas
> $> giant orbiting another star.
> $>
> $> Who's to say that an alien civilization with a couple of
> $> thousand years head start on us technologically couldn't
> $> produce a half decent street map of New York or London
> $> without ever leaving the comfort of home. Home, of course,
> $> being a couple of hundred light years away.
> $
> $I don't even think of them as having "technology". I think that's a
> $purely human concept. These aliens would be so alien they'd just be
> $aware of everything.
I suppose it depends on how you define technology.
Anyway, their technology might be of a kind that we wouldn't
recognize as technology.
> $Or not. It's all mere conjecture of course. But somehow I can't see them
> $being tv/movie aliens with spaceships and humanoid form, - and certainly
> $not a fucking stupid military command structure, or religion, like
> $they're often portrayed on tv. Hopefully that's something only us
> $backward humans are guilty of. I'd hope any intelligent aliens are far
> $too advanced for military crap or religious mumbo jumbo.
It might be our script writers keeping thigs believable for
us Earthbound humanoids. (And managable for the makeup
artists.)
But you are right. An alien species might do things very
differently than we do. They would have evolved in a
different environment, perhaps perceive the universe very
differently, and interact with their surroundings in a way
that is very different from us.
Even body sturctures based on bilateral symetry, like so
much animal life here on Earth, might be a liability in some
environments rather than an advantage.
John Fleming
> $news:s9chf59ou7vn9if6d...@4ax.com...
> $> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:32:53 +0000, while chained to a desk
> $> in the scriptorium AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $>> $John Fleming wrote:
> $>
> $>> $> the early development of primitive species.
> $>> $
> $>> $Perhaps they are observing us. Are plants aware that we study them?
> $>> $of their presence.
> $>
> $>
> $> to conclude they are centuries, if not millenia, ahead of us
> $> in terms of technology.
> $>
> $> that make US stealth technology look incredibly primitive by
> $> comparison.
> $
> $Are you guys aware of the Kardashev scale?
> $
> $http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale
> $
> $Perhaps the aliens - if they exist - are at Level IV: masters of Time and
> $Space and all reality...
No I wasn't familiar with the scale.
I gave the article a quick read, and the idea is
interesting. We, or course, are still working on ataining
Level I, having learned to harness much of the energy
available on Earth, bit still having a ways to go.
John Fleming
in the scriptorium AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $John Fleming wrote:
> $> in the scriptorium "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $>> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $>> $news:miuef51tfu6spa6ih...@4ax.com...
> $>
> $>> $> When you consider what we have discovered in the area of
> $>> $> physics in the past hundred years, who is to say in the next
> $>> $> thousand or ten thousand what we are to discover.
> $>> $
> $>> $That is, IF we are still around.
> $> I suspect we probably will be. If we survive as a species
> $> for another hundred years, I figure we will probably have
> $> colonies on moons and other planets in our own solar system,
> $> and this will greatly increase the odds of humanity
> $> surviving a bit longer.
> $>
> $>> $> Interdimensional gateways, time travel, and even faster than
> $>> $> light travel are all possibilities.
> $>> $
> $>> $You've been watching Stargate, right? :-)
> $> I really enjoyed that movie when it came out. In fact, I
> $> saw it twice.
> $>
> $> Never got into the TV series though.
> $>
> $
> $The guy wearing the eye shadow put me off it right from the start.
I don't remember him. Unless you are thinking of one of the
bad guys.
john smith
"AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in message
Fucking metrosexuals for ya!
Hulahoop
> "John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> > in the scriptorium "Stephen Wilson"
> >> $But have you ever been touched by a noodly appendage?
>
> > There was a grey green one that reached out to touch me from
> > a blob sitting on a plate in the fridge.
>
> > At that point, I decided I was overdue to clean out the
> > fridge.
>
> > --
>
> You should have let it be. Who know's what ultradimensional supersentient
> organism it might have evolved into?
>
>
Yads?
Mind you that's only if you remove the words "ultradimensional
supersentient" and replace them with the words "incomprehensible,
amoeboid, blobby"
Regards
Ged
John Fleming
in the scriptorium "john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
> $"AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in message
> $news:c6adnRSjveAwCWXX...@bt.com...
> $> Loaf of Bread wrote:
> $>> On Nov 9, 8:27 am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> $>>> In article <bhsef55sqadsh13d8lpbdogcmrrjaud...@4ax.com>,
> $>>>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:30:52 -0800, while chained to a desk
> $>>>> in the scriptorium "pandora" <pand...@peak.org> wrote:
> $>>>>> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $>>>>> $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:36:35 -0000, while chained to a desk
> $>>>>> $> in the scriptorium "john smith" <the_johnsm...@ntlworld.com>
> $>>>>> $> wrote:
> $>>>>> $> > $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $>>>>> $> > $news:dkmdf5tt35h2847a7...@4ax.com...
> $>>>>> $> > $> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:17:04 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> $>>>>> $> > $> desk in the scriptorium Hulahoop <sweeney...@hotmail.com>
> $>>>>> $> > $> wrote:
> $>>>>> $> > $>> $On Nov 8, 3:33 am, AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> $>>>>> $> > $>> $> Matthew Kruk wrote:
> $>>>>> $> > $>> $>
> $>>>>> $> > $>> $> > Some physicists have said that time-travelling particles
> $>>>>> $the
> $>>>>> $> > $>> future
> $>>>>> $> > $>> $> > could be damaging the machine in an attempt to thwart
> $>>>>> any
> $>>>>> $> > $>> experiments.
> $>>>>> $> > $>> $>
> $>>>>> $> > $>> $> The Mail loves its fantasies doesn't it.
> $>>>>> $> > $>> $
> $>>>>> $> > $>> $* "Some physicists" - ie no citations of whom, nor any
> $>>>>> indication
> $>>>>> $of
> $>>>>> $> > $>> $what their qualifications to speak on the subject are
> $>>>>> $> > $>> $
> $>>>>> $> > $>> $* "time-travelling particles from the future could be
> $>>>>> damaging
> $>>>>> $the
> $>>>>> $> > $>> $machine in an attempt to thwart any experiments". I like
> $>>>>> the use
> $>>>>> $of
> $>>>>> $> > $>> $the words "could be". Equally they "might not be". Who can
> $>>>>> prove
> $>>>>> $it
> $>>>>> $> > $>> $one way or the other? Typically lazy journalism from one
> $>>>>> of the
> $>>>>> $UK's
> $>>>>> $> > $>> $more squalid little rags. The Mail is definitely one thing
> $>>>>> I do
> $>>>>> $not
> $>>>>> $> > $>> $miss about the UK
> $>>>>> $> > $>
> $>>>>> $> > $> For all we know, they are quoting some turkey like Richard
> $>>>>> $> > $>
> $>>>>> $> > $> Hoagland knows enough science to sound authoratative, but
> $>>>>> $> > $> with the UFO and the "pyramids of Egypt were built by aliens
> $>>>>> $> > $> from outer space" crowd.
> $>>>>> $> > $
> $>>>>> $> > $You mean they weren't?
> $>>>>> $>
> $>>>>> $> I know its hard to accept, but to date no one has produced
> $>>>>> $> visited the Earth. No crashed spacecraft, no bodies, no
> $>>>>> $> library cards, . . ..
> $>>>>> $
> $>>>>> $ No Vulcans? How cruel of you to say so! I'm just crushed.
> $>>>> notwithstanding, they exist.
> $>>>> universe, I'd be very surprised if life hasn't developed
> $>>>> elsewhere in the universe. And I'd be surprised if
> $>>>> intelligent life hasn't developed.
> $>>>> It's just that claims of people like Hoagland aside, no
> $>>>> intelligent species has left a calling card to tell us they
> $>>>> were in the neighbourhood. And to date, we have uncovered
> $>>>> no evidence to suggest life exists elsewhere in the
> $>>>> universe, much less intelligent life.
> $>>> You have to love Area 53 in Nevada.
> $>>
> $>> Area 53?
> $>>
> $>
> $> Ah, but maybe Area 53 is where they keep Jesus? LOL!
> $
> $Better not even ask about Area 666!
That's demonic. :)
john smith
"AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in message
Hahaha! Dickhead! (In a good way!)
Then we're dooned, I tells ya! We're all doooooomed!
John Fleming
in the scriptorium "john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
> $Or - another idea - why don't they just clone Him from the blood on the
> $Turin Shroud?
Just think of the theological implications if the clone of
the Son of God grew up to be an atheist. :)
john smith
Read "xxxxx of the Flesh" (can't remember the first word: leant the book out
and never got it back - bastard!) and remember to wash properly if you do
the scat rituals!
Trying Googling "Theodore Reuss"... he's the guy who turned Crowley onto it
in the Western traditional OTO...
Here's a starter: http://user.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/correct.htm
john smith
So secret it's on Google Earth and there are hundreds of books written about
it...