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But is it the old fringe or the new fringe?
> In the new sci-fi FOX drama, Fringe, a research scientist named Peter
> Bishop and FBI agent Olivia Warren team up to investigate paranormal
> activity. They seek help from Bishop’s father, Walter, a brilliant (but
> possibly insane) scientist who is being held in a mental institution.
> Fringe explores mysteries of the paranormal as well as the relationships
> between the characters, and is steeped in mythology.
Sounds like the X-Files, with Molder being replaced by both Bishop and
his father, and Scully now Warren. I wonder how long it will take Fringe
to develop their own version of the Cancer Man.
> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Ma...@Mia.com wrote:
>
> > In the new sci-fi FOX drama, Fringe, a research scientist named Peter
> > Bishop and FBI agent Olivia Warren team up to investigate paranormal
> > activity. They seek help from Bishopis father, Walter, a brilliant (but
> > possibly insane) scientist who is being held in a mental institution.
> > Fringe explores mysteries of the paranormal as well as the relationships
> > between the characters, and is steeped in mythology.
>
> Sounds like the X-Files, with Molder being replaced by both Bishop and
> his father, and Scully now Warren. I wonder how long it will take Fringe
> to develop their own version of the Cancer Man.
It's one of the worst things I've ever seen, aimed at people that still
buy Chariots of the Gods and think "Altered States" was a documentary.
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> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Ma...@Mia.com wrote:
>
> > In the new sci-fi FOX drama, Fringe, a research scientist named Peter
> > Bishop and FBI agent Olivia Warren team up to investigate paranormal
> > activity. They seek help from BishopÃs father, Walter, a brilliant (but
> > possibly insane) scientist who is being held in a mental institution.
> > Fringe explores mysteries of the paranormal as well as the relationships
> > between the characters, and is steeped in mythology.
>
> Sounds like the X-Files, with Molder being replaced by both Bishop and
> his father, and Scully now Warren. I wonder how long it will take Fringe
> to develop their own version of the Cancer Man.
First episode. It's a woman with a bionic arm.
When will it be available in Canada?
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> It's one of the worst things I've ever seen, aimed at people that
> still buy Chariots of the Gods and think "Altered States" was a
> documentary.
How many people (still alive today) have even *seen* "Altered States?"
-- wds
The people doing Fringe did. Not only is it full of Altered States
'science' -- Blair Brown is in it.
Dennis Jenkins
This could turn out rather good. Unlike Lost, they actually have a plan.
AC
>In article <270820081624544371%yeey...@monkeyhouse.com>,
>Monkey boy <Jungleworld> wrote:
>>In article <Pine.NEB.4.64.08...@sdf.lonestar.org>, The
>>Master <tar...@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Ma...@Mia.com wrote:
>>>
>>> > In the new sci-fi FOX drama, Fringe, a research scientist named Peter
>>> > Bishop and FBI agent Olivia Warren team up to investigate paranormal
>>> > activity. They seek help from BishopÃs father, Walter, a brilliant (but
>>> > possibly insane) scientist who is being held in a mental institution.
>>> > Fringe explores mysteries of the paranormal as well as the relationships
>>> > between the characters, and is steeped in mythology.
>>>
>>> Sounds like the X-Files, with Molder being replaced by both Bishop and
>>> his father, and Scully now Warren. I wonder how long it will take Fringe
>>> to develop their own version of the Cancer Man.
>>
>>First episode. It's a woman with a bionic arm.
>
>When will it be available in Canada?
It's available today if you are willing to download it. If you aren't
willing to do that then it depends upon your networks purchasing the
rights to the show. If they've done that already then it will likely
air the same week it airs in the USA and maybe even the same day.
It had some rough spots, but that's not unusual for a pilot episode. I
hope they can improve upon it in the future eps. I'm just not sure
it's going to be able to get and retain enough viewers to stay on the
air for more than a single season.
> > It's one of the worst things I've ever seen, aimed at people that still
> > buy Chariots of the Gods and think "Altered States" was a documentary.
>
> You know it's fiction, right?
>
Nothing in your quote invites that question - but then you are the
monkey who is ahead of pack though not quite yet to shakespeare, eh?
> wds...@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
>
>> Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> said:
>>
>>> It's one of the worst things I've ever seen, aimed at people
>>> that still buy Chariots of the Gods and think "Altered States"
>>> was a documentary.
>>
>> How many people (still alive today) have even *seen* "Altered
>> States?"
>
> The people doing Fringe did. Not only is it full of Altered
> States 'science' -- Blair Brown is in it.
Sorry, Fred, but that's possibly the most asinine comment you've
ever made. The fact that FRINGE might use some concepts from
ALTERED STATES only suggests that the people involved are
familiar with the movie and found the concepts interesting as a
storytelling device. It in no way suggests that they think it was
a documentary.
And CHARIOTS OF THE GODS? What the *hell* was in FRINGE that
suggests it appeals specifically to Von Danikenites?
-- jayembee
> Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > wds...@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
> >
> >> Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> said:
> >>
> >>> It's one of the worst things I've ever seen, aimed at people
> >>> that still buy Chariots of the Gods and think "Altered States"
> >>> was a documentary.
> >>
> >> How many people (still alive today) have even *seen* "Altered
> >> States?"
> >
> > The people doing Fringe did. Not only is it full of Altered
> > States 'science' -- Blair Brown is in it.
>
> Sorry, Fred, but that's possibly the most asinine comment you've
> ever made.
Too bad you didn't bother to actually read it or anything.
The fact that FRINGE might use some concepts from
> ALTERED STATES only suggests that the people involved are
> familiar with the movie and found the concepts interesting as a
> storytelling device. It in no way suggests that they think it was
> a documentary.
Too bad I said nothing of the sort. All you have to do is go back up to
what you quoted to see what I actually said.
> jayembee <jayembe...@snurcher.com> wrote:
>
>> Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> wds...@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> said:
>>>>
>>>>> It's one of the worst things I've ever seen, aimed at people
>>>>> that still buy Chariots of the Gods and think "Altered States"
>>>>> was a documentary.
>>>>
>>>> How many people (still alive today) have even *seen* "Altered
>>>> States?"
>>>
>>> The people doing Fringe did. Not only is it full of Altered
>>> States 'science' -- Blair Brown is in it.
>>
>> Sorry, Fred, but that's possibly the most asinine comment you've
>> ever made.
>
> Too bad you didn't bother to actually read it or anything.
>
>> The fact that FRINGE might use some concepts from
>> ALTERED STATES only suggests that the people involved are
>> familiar with the movie and found the concepts interesting
>> as a storytelling device. It in no way suggests that they
>> think it was a documentary.
>
> Too bad I said nothing of the sort. All you have to do is go
> back up to what you quoted to see what I actually said.
Ah, yes, I see. I said that you claimed that the people making
FRINGE thought ALTERED STATES was a documentary, where you
actually ascribed that thinking to the people who it's being
aimed at. Fine, I sit corrected.
It's still an asinine comment, though. You still haven't explained
why you think the targeted audience is made up of those who "still
buy Chariots of the Gods and think 'Altered States' was a
documentary". I'm still not clear on what Von Daniken has to
do with anything that was in the FRINGE pilot.
-- jayembee
Thank you sir.
>
> It's still an asinine comment, though. You still haven't explained
> why you think the targeted audience is made up of those who "still
> buy Chariots of the Gods and think 'Altered States' was a
> documentary". I'm still not clear on what Von Daniken has to
> do with anything that was in the FRINGE pilot.
It's been months since I watched that crapfest, and I have no intention
of ever doing so again. In fact, I've put Orci on my short list of
"people that I will never watch anything they're connected to" above
Marti Noxon and Leata Karreoddoffipelrpfopopolis. So, I don't recall.
Jeez Anim. Loosen up and tell us how you really feel!
No.
Oh, okay.
Fringe was so bad it actually angered me.
It's still asinine
> It's still an asinine comment, though.
Ah, you noticed *g*
Marti Noxon had a certain appeal about her, I wonder what that other
spelling mistake looks like in motion.
For once I agree with him,
> Oh, okay.
>
> Fringe was so bad it actually angered me.
Of course it didn't last.
> Fringe was so bad it actually angered me.
ummmmm I guess I needn't tape it so it won't interfere with my
Eureka-watching, then, right?
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> In article <ANIM8Rfsk-3E9C3...@news.west.cox.net>,
> Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Fringe was so bad it actually angered me.
>
> ummmmm I guess I needn't tape it so it won't interfere with my
> Eureka-watching, then, right?
Oh, I would *so* choose Eureka over this mess. It's got high production
values (although the casting and acting isn't there) and good fx (a
friend of mind did the fx which is why I watched the whole thing) but
the script is so awful that I made a note to avoid anything these guys
ever did again. I was horrified when the 'Bad Robot' credit came up at
the end; I'd have never dreamt that this was done by actual
professionals.
> Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Fringe was so bad it actually angered me.
>
> ummmmm I guess I needn't tape it so it won't interfere with my
> Eureka-watching, then, right?
SciFi airs the week's new "Eureka" twice on the night that it
debuts, you know. (They're also currently in the practice of
running it again the next week right before the next new one,
but who knows if they'll keep that up.)
-- wds
> SciFi airs the week's new "Eureka" twice on the night that it
> debuts, you know. (They're also currently in the practice of
> running it again the next week right before the next new one,
> but who knows if they'll keep that up.)
They've been doing the latter since the season began; I keep seeing the
previous week's ending when I turn on the TV early for the new ep.
From what I've been reading about "Fringe", it seems to be a lame
X-Files clone and I never cared for the original.
Wow.
You? You the king of the Sci Fi movies?
Dude!!
Yeah. It wasn't bad at a 'giggle at the zipper on the monster' level.
It was bad at the 'these guys were given a huge box of money and are so
intellectually and creatively bankrupt they turned out this completely
unenjoyable pile of stinking feces' level.
ooooh.
You know I have to see this, to see what has you so wound up.
No.
> In article <g9i6ev$q5j$1...@panix2.panix.com>,
> wds...@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
>
> > SciFi airs the week's new "Eureka" twice on the night that it
> > debuts, you know. (They're also currently in the practice of
> > running it again the next week right before the next new one,
> > but who knows if they'll keep that up.)
>
> They've been doing the latter since the season began; I keep seeing the
> previous week's ending when I turn on the TV early for the new ep.
>
> From what I've been reading about "Fringe", it seems to be a lame
> X-Files clone and I never cared for the original.
It is not that bad. I enjoyed it. Not everybody's lower intestional
skin has grown over their entire body, causing blind anger toward shows
that incure pointless wrath.
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Aren't you the same guy that actually thought Flash Gordon had merit?
*wince*
Don't know me well, do you?
No.
Shirley, you know her well enough to know that telling her she doesn't
have to see for herself what offends you guarantees that she will see
it herself.
There are some laughable parts, but none so much as the lab being left
as it was for 17 years, and there is some humor that works (he works in
what is called "fringe science". You mean "not science".) (How long has
he been dead? 5 hours. Question him) It doesn't feel like anyone is
taking the bullshit seriously. If you can accept the conceit that the
US Air Force is hiding an intergalactic-wormhole generator under
Cheyenne Mountain, then you ought to be able to accept this conceit.
I'm so tired of big conspiracies, but this one seems to have a slightly
different feel to it somehow. I even like that both the central
characters doubt what they are finding, but pursue it anyway.
Yes, but it was just a place where 'no' had to be said for reasons
having nothing to do with 'Fringe'
>
> There are some laughable parts, but none so much as the lab being left
> as it was for 17 years,
And the computers fire right up and interface with everything.
and there is some humor that works (he works in
> what is called "fringe science". You mean "not science".) (How long has
> he been dead? 5 hours. Question him)
I liked that, except I'd been waiting for it for 10 minutes at that
point (somebody say it and get it over with!!) and of course it made our
heroes look that much more stupid that they didn't say it, even though
they were the ones that brought it up earlier IIRC.
It doesn't feel like anyone is
> taking the bullshit seriously. If you can accept the conceit that the
> US Air Force is hiding an intergalactic-wormhole generator under
> Cheyenne Mountain, then you ought to be able to accept this conceit.
Fair point. I got the feeling that they WERE taking it seriously.
Maybe that's why it angered me, like people watching John Edwards. But,
come on, this crap makes SG1 seem like hard science. Hell, Fringe makes
Homeboys from Outer Space seem like hard science. Well written hard
science. With hotter babes.
>
> I'm so tired of big conspiracies, but this one seems to have a slightly
> different feel to it somehow. I even like that both the central
> characters doubt what they are finding, but pursue it anyway.
--
> I'm so tired of big conspiracies, but this one seems to have a slightly
> different feel to it somehow. I even like that both the central
> characters doubt what they are finding, but pursue it anyway.
Isn't that was X-Files was?
> Mark Nobles <cmn-n...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > I'm so tired of big conspiracies, but this one seems to have a slightly
> > different feel to it somehow. I even like that both the central
> > characters doubt what they are finding, but pursue it anyway.
>
> Isn't that was X-Files was?
See Mulder's poster that reads:
"I want to believe"
Hmm, as I write this, it suggests that he didn't really believe but
wanted to. But his behavior throughout his investigations shows that he
does, in fact, believe all the nonsense he is spouting.
That is a possible interpretation, but not, I think, a very good one.
I think rather that it suggests that he believes *because* he wants to
-- it is an answer to the question "Why do you believe, despite the
scarcity of evidence?"
If memory serves me, there's an exchange in the show somewhere between
Mulder and one of his shadowy contacts, where the contact says "Why
aren't you dissuaded by all the evidence to the contrary?" and
Mulder's answer is "Because all the evidence to the contrary is not
entirely dissuasive." I think 'I want to believe' is the answer to
the converse question: If the evidnece for is not entirely convincing,
and the evidence against is not entirely dissuasive, on the basis of
what shall you decide whether or not to believe? He believes because
he wants to.
The legend is written, if memory serves, on a poster showing a grainy,
hard-to-make-out picture of a UFO. I think that sums it up pretty
good. Here's some evidence. It's not very good. It could be a fake. It
could be a mistake. It could be a pie plate. Does this suggest the
existence of alien life? Yes, but only if you *want to believe*.
It's a kind of shockingly honest answer about a question of faith. Try
to find someone religious or atheistic or republican or socialist who
will tell you why they believe what they do, and you'll invariably be
given a (probably angry) insistance that their point of view is
objectively right and so stuffed full of proof that you'd have to be
insane to deny them. They're lying or deluded, every one of them. They
believe because there's a *little bit* of evidence, and they *want* to
believe.
Nope.
ok, I watched it.
I definitely don't share your hate for it.
You hate it even more then? Good for you.
--
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Hip Hip Hurrah!
I wouldn't say that...
I have to agree with whoever else it was that said it, I don't think
Fringe meant to take itself seriously.
And were we already crossposting this to radw? I hadn't thought so...
I didn't add anything.
Well, go figure.
Well, why not?
> > I have to agree with whoever else it was that said it, I don't think
> > Fringe meant to take itself seriously.
> >
> > And were we already crossposting this to radw? I hadn't thought so...
>
> I didn't add anything.
As usual.
ZZZ!!!
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I'm feeling all sleepy
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should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but
the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous
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