Earth Years vs Gallifryan Years
US 71
Gallifreyan years? Anyone know how long a Gallifreyan year is compared to an
Earth year?
Ignis Fatuus
The Tardis Translator has a unit converter built in.
The Doctor
That needs to be established.
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The Doctor
Stephen Wilson
"US 71" <us...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> The Doctor told Wilf he was 950 years old, was that in Earth years or
> Gallifreyan years? Anyone know how long a Gallifreyan year is compared to
> an Earth year?
I can't remember what he quoted, but it wasn't 950. Maybe 905? That's a
completely arbitrary age (900) plus the number of years since RTD's first
episode. So in series 1, he was 900, by series 3 he was 902, etc.
How do you measure the age of an alien? Especially one who travels in
time...
Agamemnon
It was 906.
> Gallifreyan years? Anyone know how long a Gallifreyan year is compared to
> an Earth year?
Probably something like the £ Pound - € Euro conversion rate. It changes
with time. Going by the fact that he was about 890 in Time and the Rani and
assuming that to be Gallifreyan years, 1 Earth year is probably 1.35
Gallifreyan years, or at least that's what the converion rate was in 1995
when the new series began. So that would make the Doctor 1223 Gallifreyan
years old.
>
>
>
Stephen Wilson
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> "US 71" <us...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>> The Doctor told Wilf he was 950 years old, was that in Earth years or
>
> It was 906.
Yeah, that was it. So in 2004 he was 900. In 2006 he was 2002. In 2008 he
was 2004. And by 2010 he was 906.
It's not a system that makes much logical sense. But it appealed to RTD...
F�achad�ir
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>
>"US 71" <us...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:0J21n.16911$0U1....@newsfe16.iad...
>> The Doctor told Wilf he was 950 years old, was that in Earth years or
>> Gallifreyan years? Anyone know how long a Gallifreyan year is compared to
>> an Earth year?
>
>I can't remember what he quoted, but it wasn't 950. Maybe 905? That's a
906.
>completely arbitrary age (900) plus the number of years since RTD's first
>episode. So in series 1, he was 900, by series 3 he was 902, etc.
>
>How do you measure the age of an alien? Especially one who travels in
>time...
>
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WILL GILLIES
> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:16:49 -0000, "Stephen Wilson"
>
>
> >"US 71" <u...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >news:0J21n.16911$0U1....@newsfe16.iad...
> >> The Doctor told Wilf he was 950 years old, was that in Earth years or
> >> Gallifreyan years? Anyone know how long a Gallifreyan year is compared to
> >> an Earth year?
>
> >I can't remember what he quoted, but it wasn't 950. Maybe 905? That's a
>
> 906.
>
> >completely arbitrary age (900) plus the number of years since RTD's first
> >episode. So in series 1, he was 900, by series 3 he was 902, etc.
>
> >How do you measure the age of an alien? Especially one who travels in
> >time...
>
An idea, using semi expanded canon. Novels etc.
Tomb of the cybermen, he said, "Well, if we count in Earth terms I
suppose I must be about 400... yes, about 450 years old! Yes. Well.
Quite..."
That means the Earth year vs Gallifreyan year theory may hold water.
Back in Time and the Rani he was allegedly 953. And in the the New
Adventures, he was around 1000.
The Eighth Doctor novels, he loses his memory, right? and lives on
Earth fro 100 years, but scine he can't remember how old he was
anyway.
Maybe, just maybe he's guessing. Or he's lost time, like that guy who
got amnesia and couldn't remember marrying his wife of twenty years.
He was on This Morning a few years ago.
Or was he exposed to some De-aging device, like a Dalek Time
Destructor, but made it go into reverse....
Or he lies about his age, a lot. Makes himself sound older when he's
younger, and sound younger when he's older.
Dammnit RTD, you really should have made him at least 1000 or so.
Will G
F�achad�ir
900 was presumably chosen as a nice round numner. Shame he didn't go
for 9000. Given the gap since the end of the classic series, with only
the TVM in the interim, it's as good a number as any.
The Doctor
Stephen O'Connell
news:hi5e81$6k5$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
That's probably not going to happen now. You might get a SM explanation one
day... then again you might not!
The Doctor
Still has anyone descript how to get to KAsterberus?
AlanSailsbury
> In article <9171a512-1d19-40d2-9c37-3e37558c6...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
Too late fool. He's left.
And you know, it really, REALLY doesn't matter does it?
The Doctor
AlanSailsbury <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>On Jan 7, 7:55=A0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> In article <9171a512-1d19-40d2-9c37-3e37558c6...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups=
>.com>,
>> WILL GILLIES =A0<WILLGILL...@YAHOO.CO.UK> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >On 6 Jan, 20:10, F achad ir <F ach@d. ir> wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:16:49 -0000, "Stephen Wilson"
>>
>> >> <stephen.wilson2004nos...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >"US 71" <u...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> >> >news:0J21n.16911$0U1....@newsfe16.iad...
>or
>> >> >> Gallifreyan years? Anyone know how long a Gallifreyan year is compa=
>red to
>> >> >> an Earth year?
>>
> a
>>
>> >> 906.
>>
>> >> >completely arbitrary age (900) plus the number of years since RTD's f=
>irst
>> >> >episode. So in series 1, he was 900, by series 3 he was 902, etc.
>>
>> >> >How do you measure the age of an alien? Especially one who travels in
>> >> >time...
>>
>> >An idea, using semi expanded canon. Novels etc.
>>
>> >Tomb of the cybermen, he said, "Well, if we count in Earth terms I
>> >suppose I must be about 400... yes, about 450 years old! Yes. Well.
>> >Quite..."
>>
>> >That means the Earth year vs Gallifreyan year theory may hold water.
>> >Back in Time and the Rani he was allegedly 953. And in the the New
>> >Adventures, he was around 1000.
>> >The Eighth Doctor novels, he loses his memory, right? and lives on
>> >Earth fro 100 years, but scine he can't remember how old he was
>> >anyway.
>> >Maybe, just maybe he's guessing. Or he's lost time, like that guy who
>> >got amnesia and couldn't remember marrying his wife of twenty years.
>> >He was on This Morning a few years ago.
>>
>> >Or was he exposed to some De-aging device, like a Dalek Time
>> >Destructor, but made it go into reverse....
>>
>> >Or he lies about his age, a lot. Makes himself sound older when he's
>> >younger, and sound younger when he's older.
>>
>>
>> >Will G
>>
>> We need an RTD explanation.
>> --
>
>Too late fool. He's left.
>
>And you know, it really, REALLY doesn't matter does it?
TRollsbury scores 0/10.
AlanSailsbury
> In article <b6f3db08-3da7-4f56-932b-045be51f2...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Wrong Yads. This sort of trivial shit REALLY doesn't matter. Neither
does your childish race to be top poster on usenet and twatter. You're
a very silly immature man.
The Doctor
AlanSailsbury <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>On Jan 7, 11:27=A0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> In article <b6f3db08-3da7-4f56-932b-045be51f2...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups=
>.com>,
>>
>>
>>
>> AlanSailsbury =A0<alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >On Jan 7, 7:55=3DA0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> >> In article <9171a512-1d19-40d2-9c37-3e37558c6...@k17g2000yqh.googlegro=
>ups=3D
>> >.com>,
>> >> WILL GILLIES =3DA0<WILLGILL...@YAHOO.CO.UK> wrote:
>>
>> >> >On 6 Jan, 20:10, F achad ir <F ach@d. ir> wrote:
>> >> >> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:16:49 -0000, "Stephen Wilson"
>>
>> >> >> <stephen.wilson2004nos...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >"US 71" <u...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:0J21n.16911$0U1....@newsfe16.iad...
>rs =3D
>> >or
>> >> >> >> Gallifreyan years? Anyone know how long a Gallifreyan year is co=
>mpa=3D
>> >red to
>> >> >> >> an Earth year?
>>
>t's=3D
>> > a
>>
>> >> >> 906.
>>
>> >> >> >completely arbitrary age (900) plus the number of years since RTD'=
>s f=3D
>> >irst
>> >> >> >episode. So in series 1, he was 900, by series 3 he was 902, etc.
>>
> in
>> >> >> >time...
>>
>> >> >An idea, using semi expanded canon. Novels etc.
>>
>> >> >Tomb of the cybermen, he said, "Well, if we count in Earth terms I
>> >> >suppose I must be about 400... yes, about 450 years old! Yes. Well.
>> >> >Quite..."
>>
>> >> >That means the Earth year vs Gallifreyan year theory may hold water.
>> >> >Back in Time and the Rani he was allegedly 953. And in the the New
>> >> >Adventures, he was around 1000.
>> >> >The Eighth Doctor novels, he loses his memory, right? and lives on
>> >> >Earth fro 100 years, but scine he can't remember how old he was
>> >> >anyway.
>> >> >Maybe, just maybe he's guessing. Or he's lost time, like that guy who
>> >> >got amnesia and couldn't remember marrying his wife of twenty years.
>> >> >He was on This Morning a few years ago.
>>
>> >> >Or was he exposed to some De-aging device, like a Dalek Time
>> >> >Destructor, but made it go into reverse....
>>
>> >> >Or he lies about his age, a lot. Makes himself sound older when he's
>> >> >younger, and sound younger when he's older.
>>
>.
>>
>> >> >Will G
>>
>> >> We need an RTD explanation.
>> >> --
>>
>> >Too late fool. He's left.
>>
>> >And you know, it really, REALLY doesn't matter does it?
>>
>> TRollsbury scores 0/10.
>> --
>
>does your childish race to be top poster on usenet and twatter. You're
>a very silly immature man.
>
>
TRolsbury soobs again.
Stephen O'Connell
>
> Still has anyone descript how to get to KAsterberus?
Go through the Mutter's Spiral, turn right at Pluto, go through Andromeda,
ignore the fork at Telos, but take the first left at Skaro, keep going until you
go past the second black hole, go through the asteroid belt and Kasterberus
should be on the right... or maybe the left. But it's there somewhere. Now, when
are you going?
Mr.Smartypants
I'll happily contribute to buy him a bus ticket.
The Doctor
The Doctor
Mr.Smartypants <bc...@canada.com> wrote:
>On Jan 9, 11:43=A0am, "Stephen O'Connell" <no.s...@fk.u.com> wrote:
>> "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote
>>
>>
>>
>> > Still has anyone descript how to get to KAsterberus?
>>
>,
>> ignore the fork at Telos, but take the first left at Skaro, keep going un=
>til you
>> go past the second black hole, go through the asteroid belt and Kasterber=
>us
>> should be on the right... or maybe the left. But it's there somewhere. No=
>w, when
>> are you going?
>
>
>I'll happily contribute to buy him a bus ticket.
>
The mode of transport is space rocket.
MSP scores 0/10.
solar penguin
Yads said:
> In article <c8b13544-eca1-4f5a...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
> Mr.Smartypants <bc...@canada.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 9, 11:43=A0am, "Stephen O'Connell" <no.s...@fk.u.com> wrote:
> >> "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Still has anyone descript how to get to KAsterberus?
> >>
> >> Go through the Mutter's Spiral, turn right at Pluto, go through Andromeda=
> >,
> >> ignore the fork at Telos, but take the first left at Skaro, keep going un=
> >til you
> >> go past the second black hole, go through the asteroid belt and Kasterber=
> >us
> >> should be on the right... or maybe the left. But it's there somewhere. No=
> >w, when
> >> are you going?
> >
> >
> >I'll happily contribute to buy him a bus ticket.
> >
>
> The mode of transport is space rocket.
Don't be silly. Space rockets are sublight vessels. You don't want
to make a 29,000 light years journey in one! Even if you were
immortal, it would still be rather boring!
>
> MSP scores 0/10.
And you score the same. Space rocket indeed...
The Doctor
Well light speed travel has not been invented yet. Care to contribute?
John Fleming
desk in the scriptorium solar penguin
<solar....@googlemail.com> wrote:
> $Yads said:
> $> In article <c8b13544-eca1-4f5a...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
> $> Mr.Smartypants <bc...@canada.com> wrote:
> $> >On Jan 9, 11:43=A0am, "Stephen O'Connell" <no.s...@fk.u.com> wrote:
> $> >> "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote
> $> >>
> $> >> > Still has anyone descript how to get to KAsterberus?
> $> >>
> $> >> Go through the Mutter's Spiral, turn right at Pluto, go through Andromeda=
> $> >,
> $> >> ignore the fork at Telos, but take the first left at Skaro, keep going un=
> $> >til you
> $> >> go past the second black hole, go through the asteroid belt and Kasterber=
> $> >us
> $> >> should be on the right... or maybe the left. But it's there somewhere. No=
> $> >w, when
> $> >> are you going?
> $> >
> $> >I'll happily contribute to buy him a bus ticket.
> $>
> $> The mode of transport is space rocket.
> $
> $Don't be silly. Space rockets are sublight vessels. You don't want
> $to make a 29,000 light years journey in one! Even if you were
> $immortal, it would still be rather boring!
Not to mention that rockets are incredibly inefficient. As
a general rule, to put 1 kg of mass into low Earth orbit
from the Earth's surface takes about 19 kg of fuel.
You'd gain some efficiency improvements using ion drives
similar to what NASA used on the Dawn mission and the Deep
Space 1 mission. Or the ESA used on the Smart 1 mission.
But those drives aren't powerful enough to put a payload
into Earth orbit. You need something else, like a
conventional rocket, to kick start you on your way.
Then, to reach your destination in anything close to 29,000
years, you'd need to travel fairly close to the speed of
light, which brings in reletavistic effects.
> $> MSP scores 0/10.
> $
> $And you score the same. Space rocket indeed...
Agreed. Rockets may have been fine for 1960s era TV shows
like "Lost in Space". But for interstellar travel, from a
practical point of view, they are useless.
--
John Fleming
Edmonton, Canada
Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
And on that farm he had a genome E-I-E-I-O
With a SNP SNP here and a SNP SNP there,
Here a SNP, there a SNP, everywhere a SNP SNP
Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
solar penguin
The Doctor wrote:
> In article <2d5eee70-63c7-4518...@e37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
> solar penguin <solar....@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >Yads said:
> >
> >> In article <c8b13544-eca1-4f5a...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
> >> Mr.Smartypants <bc...@canada.com> wrote:
> >> >On Jan 9, 11:43=A0am, "Stephen O'Connell" <no.s...@fk.u.com> wrote:
> >> >> "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Still has anyone descript how to get to KAsterberus?
> >> >>
> >> >> Go through the Mutter's Spiral, turn right at Pluto, go through Andromeda=
> >> >,
> >> >> ignore the fork at Telos, but take the first left at Skaro, keep going un=
> >> >til you
> >> >> go past the second black hole, go through the asteroid belt and Kasterber=
> >> >us
> >> >> should be on the right... or maybe the left. But it's there somewhere. No=
> >> >w, when
> >> >> are you going?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >I'll happily contribute to buy him a bus ticket.
> >> >
> >>
> >> The mode of transport is space rocket.
> >
> >Don't be silly. Space rockets are sublight vessels. You don't want
> >to make a 29,000 light years journey in one! Even if you were
> >immortal, it would still be rather boring!
> >
>
> Well light speed travel has not been invented yet.
That's what the evil elephants want you to think!
> Care to contribute?
Practise transcendental meditation until you can send out telepathic
signals to other planets, asking the aliens to give you a lift there.
Well, it _might_ work...
The Doctor
Mr.Smartypants
> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:41:10 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> desk in the scriptorium solar penguin
>
>
>
>
>
> <solar.peng...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > $Yads said:
I'll still contribute to buy him a bus ticket.
Why should I give a flying f*** how many light years it takes him to
get there?...............as long as he's no longer *HERE*.
> --
>
> John Fleming
> Edmonton, Canada
>
> Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
> And on that farm he had a genome E-I-E-I-O
> With a SNP SNP here and a SNP SNP there,
> Here a SNP, there a SNP, everywhere a SNP SNP
> Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
solar penguin
The Doctor wrote:
Dave, in the past you've claimed to believe that if you pray hard
enough an immortal, invisible alien is going to take you in a
spaceship to a planet called heaven.
Using transcendental meditation to hitch a lift from aliens is no less
scientific than using prayer...
The Doctor
John Fleming
desk in the scriptorium "Mr.Smartypants"
<bunghol...@lycos.com> wrote:
> $On Jan 10, 5:32�pm, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> $> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:41:10 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> $> desk in the scriptorium solar penguin
> $> <solar.peng...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> $> > $Yads said:
> $> > $> In article <c8b13544-eca1-4f5a-94a6-59a53e51c...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
> $> > $> Mr.Smartypants <b...@canada.com> wrote:
> $> > $> >On Jan 9, 11:43=A0am, "Stephen O'Connell" <no.s...@fk.u.com> wrote:
> $> > $> >> "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote
> $> > $> >>
> $> > $> >> > Still has anyone descript how to get to KAsterberus?
> $> > $> >>
> $> > $> >> Go through the Mutter's Spiral, turn right at Pluto, go through Andromeda=
> $> > $> >> ignore the fork at Telos, but take the first left at Skaro, keep going un=
> $> > $> >til you
> $> > $> >> go past the second black hole, go through the asteroid belt and Kasterber=
> $> > $> >us
> $> > $> >> should be on the right... or maybe the left. But it's there somewhere. No=
> $> > $> >w, when
> $> > $> >> are you going?
> $> > $> >
> $> > $> >I'll happily contribute to buy him a bus ticket.
> $> > $>
> $> > $> The mode of transport is space rocket.
> $> > $
> $> > $Don't be silly. �Space rockets are sublight vessels. �You don't want
> $> > $immortal, it would still be rather boring!
> $>
> $> Not to mention that rockets are incredibly inefficient. �As
> $> a general rule, to put 1 kg of mass into low Earth orbit
> $> from the Earth's surface takes about 19 kg of fuel.
> $>
> $> You'd gain some efficiency improvements using ion drives
> $> similar to what NASA used on the Dawn mission and the Deep
> $> Space 1 mission. �Or the ESA used on the Smart 1 mission.
> $> But those drives aren't powerful enough to put a payload
> $> into Earth orbit. �You need something else, like a
> $> conventional rocket, to kick start you on your way.
> $>
> $> Then, to reach your destination in anything close to 29,000
> $> years, you'd need to travel fairly close to the speed of
> $> light, which brings in reletavistic effects.
> $>
> $> > $> MSP scores 0/10.
> $> > $
> $> > $And you score the same. �Space rocket indeed...
> $> Agreed. �Rockets may have been fine for 1960s era TV shows
> $> like "Lost in Space". �But for interstellar travel, from a
> $> practical point of view, they are useless.
> $>
> $
> $
> $I'll still contribute to buy him a bus ticket.
> $
> $Why should I give a flying f*** how many light years it takes him to
> $get there?...............as long as he's no longer *HERE*.
Works for me.
Put the bus on top of an Atlas V rocket, light the candle,
and watch it put the bus on an interstellar trajectory that
will take it about 300,000 years just to reach Alpha
Centauri . . ..
PV
Will he need a transfer on this trip?
--
PV
Puritanism is the haunting fear that someone, somewhere may be happy.
H.L. Mencken
John Fleming
the scriptorium "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
> $John Fleming wrote:
> $> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:00:41 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> $> desk in the scriptorium "Mr.Smartypants"
> $> <bunghol...@lycos.com> wrote:
> $>> $On Jan 10, 5:32 pm, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> $>> $> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:41:10 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> $>> $> desk in the scriptorium solar penguin
> $>> $> <solar.peng...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> $>> $> > $Yads said:
> $>> $> > $> In article
> $>> <c8b13544-eca1-4f5a-94a6-59a53e51c...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
> $>> $> > $> Mr.Smartypants <b...@canada.com> wrote: $> > $> >On Jan 9,
> $>> 11:43=A0am, "Stephen O'Connell" <no.s...@fk.u.com> wrote: $> > $> >>
> $>> "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote $> > $> >>
> $>> $> > $> >> > Still has anyone descript how to get to KAsterberus?
> $>> $> > $> >>
> $>> $> > $> >> Go through the Mutter's Spiral, turn right at Pluto, go
> $>> $> > $> >> ignore the fork at Telos, but take the first left at
> $>> Skaro, keep going un= $> > $> >til you
> $>> $> > $> >> go past the second black hole, go through the asteroid
> $>> belt and Kasterber= $> > $> >us
> $>> $> > $> >> should be on the right... or maybe the left. But it's
> $>> there somewhere. No= $> > $> >w, when
> $>> $> > $> >> are you going?
> $>> $> > $> >
> $>> $> > $> >I'll happily contribute to buy him a bus ticket.
> $>> $> > $>
> $>> $> > $> The mode of transport is space rocket.
> $>> $> > $
> $>> $> > $Don't be silly. Space rockets are sublight vessels. You don't
> $>> were $> > $immortal, it would still be rather boring!
> $>> $>
> $>> $> Not to mention that rockets are incredibly inefficient. As
> $>> $> from the Earth's surface takes about 19 kg of fuel.
> $>> $>
> $>> $> You'd gain some efficiency improvements using ion drives
> $>> $> Space 1 mission. Or the ESA used on the Smart 1 mission.
> $>> $> But those drives aren't powerful enough to put a payload
> $>> $> into Earth orbit. You need something else, like a
> $>> $> conventional rocket, to kick start you on your way.
> $>> $>
> $>> $> Then, to reach your destination in anything close to 29,000
> $>> $> light, which brings in reletavistic effects.
> $>> $>
> $>> $> > $> MSP scores 0/10.
> $>> $> > $
> $>> $> > $And you score the same. Space rocket indeed...
> $>> $>
> $>> $> Agreed. Rockets may have been fine for 1960s era TV shows
> $>> $> practical point of view, they are useless.
> $>> $>
> $>> $
> $>> $
> $>> $I'll still contribute to buy him a bus ticket.
> $>> $
> $>> $Why should I give a flying f*** how many light years it takes him to
> $>
> $> Works for me.
> $>
> $> Put the bus on top of an Atlas V rocket, light the candle,
> $> and watch it put the bus on an interstellar trajectory that
> $> will take it about 300,000 years just to reach Alpha
> $> Centauri . . ..
> $
> $Will he need a transfer on this trip?
Won't matter.
He won't have anything to transfer to.
PV
Just don't want him to go all the way there and not have enough bus fare to
continue the trip!
John Fleming
> $> the scriptorium "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
> $>> $John Fleming wrote:
> $>> $> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:00:41 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> $>> $> desk in the scriptorium "Mr.Smartypants"
> $>> $> <bunghol...@lycos.com> wrote:
> $>> $>> $On Jan 10, 5:32 pm, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> $>> $>> $> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:41:10 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> $>> $>> $> desk in the scriptorium solar penguin
> $>> $>> $> <solar.peng...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> $>> $>> $> > $Yads said:
> $>> $>> $> > $> In article
> $>> $>>
> $>> <c8b13544-eca1-4f5a-94a6-59a53e51c...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
> $>> $>> $> > $> Mr.Smartypants <b...@canada.com> wrote: $> > $> >On Jan
> $>> 9, $>> 11:43=A0am, "Stephen O'Connell" <no.s...@fk.u.com> wrote: $>
> $>> > $> >> $>> "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote $> > $> >>
> $>> $>> $> > $> >> > Still has anyone descript how to get to
> $>> Spiral, turn right at Pluto, go $>> through Andromeda= $> > $> >,
> $>> $>> $> > $> >> ignore the fork at Telos, but take the first left at
> $>> $>> Skaro, keep going un= $> > $> >til you
> $>> $>> $> > $> >> go past the second black hole, go through the asteroid
> $>> $>> belt and Kasterber= $> > $> >us
> $>> $>> $> > $> >> should be on the right... or maybe the left. But it's
> $>> $>> there somewhere. No= $> > $> >w, when
> $>> $>> $> > $> >> are you going?
> $>> $>> $> > $> >
> $>> $>> $> > $> >I'll happily contribute to buy him a bus ticket.
> $>> $>> $> > $>
> $>> $>> $> > $> The mode of transport is space rocket.
> $>> $>> $> > $
> $>> don't $>> want $> > $to make a 29,000 light years journey in one!
> $>> Even if you $>> were $> > $immortal, it would still be rather boring!
> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $> Not to mention that rockets are incredibly inefficient. As
> $>> $>> $> from the Earth's surface takes about 19 kg of fuel.
> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $> You'd gain some efficiency improvements using ion drives
> $>> $>> $> Space 1 mission. Or the ESA used on the Smart 1 mission.
> $>> $>> $> But those drives aren't powerful enough to put a payload
> $>> $>> $> into Earth orbit. You need something else, like a
> $>> $>> $> conventional rocket, to kick start you on your way.
> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $> Then, to reach your destination in anything close to 29,000
> $>> $>> $> light, which brings in reletavistic effects.
> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $> > $> MSP scores 0/10.
> $>> $>> $> > $
> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $> Agreed. Rockets may have been fine for 1960s era TV shows
> $>> $>> $> practical point of view, they are useless.
> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $
> $>> $>> $
> $>> $>> $I'll still contribute to buy him a bus ticket.
> $>> $>> $
> $>> $>> $Why should I give a flying f*** how many light years it takes
> $>> *HERE*. $>
> $>> $> Works for me.
> $>> $>
> $>> $> Put the bus on top of an Atlas V rocket, light the candle,
> $>> $> will take it about 300,000 years just to reach Alpha
> $>> $> Centauri . . ..
> $>> $
> $>> $Will he need a transfer on this trip?
> $> Won't matter.
> $>
> $> He won't have anything to transfer to.
> $
> $
> $Just don't want him to go all the way there and not have enough bus fare to
> $continue the trip!
Maybe they'll just treat him like the man from Boston in an
old Kingston Trio song.
Let me tell you the story
Of a man named Charlie
On a tragic and fateful day
He put ten cents in his pocket,
Kissed his wife and family
Went to ride on the MTA
Charlie handed in his dime
At the Kendall Square Station
And he changed for Jamaica Plain
When he got there the conductor told him,
"One more nickel."
Charlie could not get off that train.
Chorus:
Did he ever return,
No he never returned
And his fate is still unlearn'd
He may ride forever
'neath the streets of Boston
He's the man who never returned.
[snip]
PV
LOL....good one (and sadly I know the song, what does that say about my
childhood eh?)
"The Great One"
"PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote in message news:dHS2n.59452$Db2.12480@edtnps83...
You started sucking Dick at a very early age !!
--
John C.
John Fleming
> $>> $> the scriptorium "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
> $>> $>> $John Fleming wrote:
> $>> $>> $> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:00:41 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> $>> $>> $> desk in the scriptorium "Mr.Smartypants"
> $>> $>> $> <bunghol...@lycos.com> wrote:
> $>> $>> $>> $On Jan 10, 5:32 pm, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> $>> $>> $>> $> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:41:10 -0800 (PST), while chained
> $>> to a $>> $>> $> desk in the scriptorium solar penguin
> $>> $>> $>> $> <solar.peng...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> $>> $>> $>> $> > $Yads said:
> $>> $>> $>> $> > $> In article> $>> $>> $>> $> > $> Mr.Smartypants <b...@canada.com> wrote: $> > $> >On
> $>> Jan $>> 9, $>> 11:43=A0am, "Stephen O'Connell" <no.s...@fk.u.com>
> $>> wrote: $> $>> > $> >> $>> "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
> $>> wrote $> > $> >> $>> $>> $> > $> >> > Still has anyone descript how
> $>> to get to $>> KAsterberus? $>> $> > $> >> $>> $> > $> >> Go through
> $>> the Mutter's $>> Spiral, turn right at Pluto, go $>> through
> $>> Andromeda= $> > $> >, $>> $>> $> > $> >> ignore the fork at Telos,
> $>> but take the first left at $>> $>> Skaro, keep going un= $> > $>
> $>> >til you $>> $>> $> > $> >> go past the second black hole, go
> $>> $> > $> >> should be on the right... or maybe the left. But it's $>>
> $>> $>> there somewhere. No= $> > $> >w, when $>> $>> $> > $> >> are you
> $>> $>> $>> $> > $> >I'll happily contribute to buy him a bus ticket.
> $>> $>> $>> $> > $>
> $>> $>> $>> $> > $> The mode of transport is space rocket.
> $>> $>> $>> $> > $
> $>> $>> don't $>> want $> > $to make a 29,000 light years journey in one!
> $>> $>> Even if you $>> were $> > $immortal, it would still be rather
> $>> boring! $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $>> $> Not to mention that rockets are incredibly inefficient. As
> $>> $>> $>> $> from the Earth's surface takes about 19 kg of fuel.
> $>> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $>> $> You'd gain some efficiency improvements using ion drives
> $>> $>> $>> $> Space 1 mission. Or the ESA used on the Smart 1 mission.
> $>> $>> $>> $> But those drives aren't powerful enough to put a payload
> $>> $>> $>> $> into Earth orbit. You need something else, like a
> $>> $>> $>> $> conventional rocket, to kick start you on your way.
> $>> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $>> $> Then, to reach your destination in anything close to
> $>> speed of $>> $>> $> light, which brings in reletavistic effects.
> $>> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $>> $> > $> MSP scores 0/10.
> $>> $>> $>> $> > $
> $>> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $>> $> Agreed. Rockets may have been fine for 1960s era TV shows
> $>> $>> $>> $> practical point of view, they are useless.
> $>> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $>> $
> $>> $>> $>> $I'll still contribute to buy him a bus ticket.
> $>> $>> $>> $
> $>> takes $>> him to $>> $get there?...............as long as he's no
> $>> longer $>> *HERE*. $>
> $>> $>> $> Works for me.
> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $> Put the bus on top of an Atlas V rocket, light the candle,
> $>> $>> $> will take it about 300,000 years just to reach Alpha
> $>> $>> $> Centauri . . ..
> $>> $>> $
> $>> $>> $Will he need a transfer on this trip?
> $>> $>
> $>> $> Won't matter.
> $>> $>
> $>> $> He won't have anything to transfer to.
> $>> $
> $>> $Just don't want him to go all the way there and not have enough bus
> $>
> $> Maybe they'll just treat him like the man from Boston in an
> $> old Kingston Trio song.
> $>
> $> Let me tell you the story
> $> Of a man named Charlie
> $> On a tragic and fateful day
> $> He put ten cents in his pocket,
> $> Kissed his wife and family
> $> Went to ride on the MTA
> $>
> $> Charlie handed in his dime
> $> At the Kendall Square Station
> $> And he changed for Jamaica Plain
> $> When he got there the conductor told him,
> $> "One more nickel."
> $> Charlie could not get off that train.
> $>
> $> Chorus:
> $> Did he ever return,
> $> No he never returned
> $> And his fate is still unlearn'd
> $> He may ride forever
> $> 'neath the streets of Boston
> $> He's the man who never returned.
> $>
> $> [snip]
> $
> $LOL....good one (and sadly I know the song, what does that say about my
> $childhood eh?)
It just means you had a good, classic upbringing.
PV
That's nice
john smith
"solar penguin" <solar....@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:62f9b1bf-b0f2-4513...@34g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...
So you're assuming telepathy travels at the faster "speed of mind" rather
than the speed of light? Easier to create an Einstein-Rosen bridge, no?
PV
Yup, I did, unlike some others that drop in randomly like HJ.
"The Great One"
"PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote in message news:BbT2n.59457$Db2.12829@edtnps83...
> --
> PV
You sick Faggot !!
--
HJ
PV
That's nice
--
John Fleming
> $>> $>> $> the scriptorium "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
> $>> $>> $>> $John Fleming wrote:
> $>> $>> $>> $> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:00:41 -0800 (PST), while chained
> $>> to a $>> $>> $> desk in the scriptorium "Mr.Smartypants"
> $>> $>> $>> $> <bunghol...@lycos.com> wrote:
> $>> $>> $>> $>> $On Jan 10, 5:32 pm, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com>
> $>> wrote: $>> $>> $>> $> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:41:10 -0800 (PST),
> $>> while chained $>> to a $>> $>> $> desk in the scriptorium solar
> $>> penguin $>> $>> $>> $> <solar.peng...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> $>> $>> $>> $>> $> > $Yads said:
> $>> $>> $>> $>> $> > $> In article
> $>> $>> $>> $>>
> $>> $>> $>>
> $>> $>>
> $>> <c8b13544-eca1-4f5a-94a6-59a53e51c...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
> $>> >On $>> Jan $>> 9, $>> 11:43=A0am, "Stephen O'Connell"
> $>> <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> $>> wrote $> > $> >> $>> $>> $> > $> >> >
> $>> Still has anyone descript how $>> to get to $>> KAsterberus? $>> $>
> $>> > $> >> $>> $> > $> >> Go through $>> the Mutter's $>> Spiral, turn
> $>> > $> >> ignore the fork at Telos, $>> but take the first left at $>>
> $>> $>> Skaro, keep going un= $> > $> $>> >til you $>> $>> $> > $> >> go
> $>> and Kasterber= $> > $> >us $>> $>> $>> $> > $> >> should be on the
> $>> right... or maybe the left. But it's $>> $>> $>> there somewhere.
> $>> No= $> > $> >w, when $>> $>> $> > $> >> are you $>> going? $>> $>>
> $>> $> > $> > $>> $>> $>> $> > $> >I'll happily contribute to buy him a
> $>> transport is space rocket. $>> $>> $>> $> > $
> $>> $>> $>> $>> $> > $Don't be silly. Space rockets are sublight
> $>> vessels. You $>> $>> don't $>> want $> > $to make a 29,000 light
> $>> years journey in one! $>> $>> Even if you $>> were $> > $immortal,
> $>> it would still be rather $>> boring! $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $>> $>> $> Not to mention that rockets are incredibly
> $>> into low Earth orbit $>> $>> $>> $> from the Earth's surface takes
> $>> about 19 kg of fuel. $>> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $>> $>> $> You'd gain some efficiency improvements using ion
> $>> and the Deep $>> $>> $>> $> Space 1 mission. Or the ESA used on the
> $>> Smart 1 mission. $>> $>> $>> $> But those drives aren't powerful
> $>> enough to put a payload $>> $>> $>> $> into Earth orbit. You need
> $>> something else, like a $>> $>> $>> $> conventional rocket, to kick
> $>> start you on your way. $>> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $>> $>> $> Then, to reach your destination in anything close to
> $>> $>> speed of $>> $>> $> light, which brings in reletavistic effects.
> $>> $>> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $>> $>> $> > $> MSP scores 0/10.
> $>> $>> $>> $>> $> > $
> $>> $>> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $>> $>> $> Agreed. Rockets may have been fine for 1960s era TV
> $>> travel, from a $>> $>> $>> $> practical point of view, they are
> $>> useless. $>> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $>> $>> $
> $>> $>> $>> $>> $
> $>> $>> $>> $>> $
> $>> $>> takes $>> him to $>> $get there?...............as long as he's no
> $>> $>> longer $>> *HERE*. $>
> $>> $>> $>> $> Works for me.
> $>> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $>> $> Put the bus on top of an Atlas V rocket, light the candle,
> $>> that $>> $>> $> will take it about 300,000 years just to reach Alpha
> $>> $>> $>> $> Centauri . . ..
> $>> $>> $>> $
> $>> $>> $>> $Will he need a transfer on this trip?
> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $> Won't matter.
> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $> He won't have anything to transfer to.
> $>> $>> $
> $>> $>> $Just don't want him to go all the way there and not have enough
> $>> $>
> $>> $> Maybe they'll just treat him like the man from Boston in an
> $>> $>
> $>> $> Let me tell you the story
> $>> $> On a tragic and fateful day
> $>> $> He put ten cents in his pocket,
> $>> $> Kissed his wife and family
> $>> $> Went to ride on the MTA
> $>> $>
> $>> $> Charlie handed in his dime
> $>> $> And he changed for Jamaica Plain
> $>> $> When he got there the conductor told him,
> $>> $> "One more nickel."
> $>> $> Charlie could not get off that train.
> $>> $>
> $>> $> Chorus:
> $>> $> Did he ever return,
> $>> $> No he never returned
> $>> $> And his fate is still unlearn'd
> $>> $> He may ride forever
> $>> $> 'neath the streets of Boston
> $>> $> He's the man who never returned.
> $>> $>
> $>> $> [snip]
> $>> $
> $>> $LOL....good one (and sadly I know the song, what does that say
> $>
> $> It just means you had a good, classic upbringing.
> $
> $Yup, I did, unlike some others that drop in randomly like HJ.
Amen.
Duncan Patton a Campbell
> PV
>
> Puritanism is the haunting fear that someone, somewhere may be happy.
> H.L. Mencken
Yes, that's how a German immigrant might see it, I spose. In fact it
is more of a survivalist code against social deviation driven
by the early experiences of naive English Utopians in a neolithic
frontier setting. In the New World one lived carefully or not at all.
Dhu
--
Duncan Patton a Campbell is Dhu
The Doctor
The Doctor
\"The Great One\" <hones...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
>"PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote in message =
>news:dHS2n.59452$Db2.12480@edtnps83...
>> John Fleming wrote:
>> > On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 02:40:21 GMT, while chained to a desk in
>> > the scriptorium "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
>> >> $John Fleming wrote:
>> >> $> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 02:21:52 GMT, while chained to a desk in
>> >> $> the scriptorium "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
>> >> $>> $John Fleming wrote:
>> >> $>> $> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:00:41 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
>> >> $>> $> desk in the scriptorium "Mr.Smartypants"
>> >> $>> $> <bunghol...@lycos.com> wrote:
>wrote:
>> >> $>> $>> $> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:41:10 -0800 (PST), while chained
>> >> to a $>> $>> $> desk in the scriptorium solar penguin
>> >> $>> $>> $> <solar.peng...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >> $>> $>> $> > $Yads said:
>> >> $>> $>> $> > $> In article
>> >> $>> $>>
>> >> $>>
>> >> <c8b13544-eca1-4f5a-94a6-59a53e51c...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
>> >> $>> $>> $> > $> Mr.Smartypants <b...@canada.com> wrote: $> > $> >On
>> >> wrote: $> $>> > $> >> $>> "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
>> >> wrote $> > $> >> $>> $>> $> > $> >> > Still has anyone descript how
>> >> to get to $>> KAsterberus? $>> $> > $> >> $>> $> > $> >> Go through
>> >> the Mutter's $>> Spiral, turn right at Pluto, go $>> through
>Telos,
>> >> but take the first left at $>> $>> Skaro, keep going un=3D $> > $>
>> >> >til you $>> $>> $> > $> >> go past the second black hole, go
>$>>
>> >> $> > $> >> should be on the right... or maybe the left. But it's =
>$>>
>> >> $>> there somewhere. No=3D $> > $> >w, when $>> $>> $> > $> >> are =
>you
>> >> going? $>> $>> $> > $> >
>> >> $>> $>> $> > $> >I'll happily contribute to buy him a bus ticket.
>> >> $>> $>> $> > $>
>> >> $>> $>> $> > $> The mode of transport is space rocket.
>> >> $>> $>> $> > $
>You
>> >> $>> don't $>> want $> > $to make a 29,000 light years journey in =
>one!
>> >> $>> Even if you $>> were $> > $immortal, it would still be rather
>> >> boring! $>> $>> $>
>As
>> >> $>> $>> $> a general rule, to put 1 kg of mass into low Earth orbit
>> >> $>> $>> $> from the Earth's surface takes about 19 kg of fuel.
>> >> $>> $>> $>
>> >> $>> $>> $> You'd gain some efficiency improvements using ion drives
>Deep
>> >> $>> $>> $> Space 1 mission. Or the ESA used on the Smart 1 mission.
>> >> $>> $>> $> But those drives aren't powerful enough to put a payload
>> >> $>> $>> $> into Earth orbit. You need something else, like a
>> >> $>> $>> $> conventional rocket, to kick start you on your way.
>> >> $>> $>> $>
>> >> $>> $>> $> Then, to reach your destination in anything close to
>> >> 29,000 $>> $>> $> years, you'd need to travel fairly close to the
>> >> speed of $>> $>> $> light, which brings in reletavistic effects.
>> >> $>> $>> $>
>> >> $>> $>> $> > $> MSP scores 0/10.
>> >> $>> $>> $> > $
>> >> $>> $>> $> > $And you score the same. Space rocket indeed...
>> >> $>> $>> $>
>shows
>> >> $>> $>> $> like "Lost in Space". But for interstellar travel, from =
>a
>> >> $>> $>> $> practical point of view, they are useless.
>> >> $>> $>> $>
>> >> $>> $>> $
>> >> $>> $>> $
>> >> $>> $>> $I'll still contribute to buy him a bus ticket.
>> >> $>> $>> $
>> >> $>> $>> $Why should I give a flying f*** how many light years it
>> >> takes $>> him to $>> $get there?...............as long as he's no
>> >> longer $>> *HERE*. $>
>> >> $>> $> Works for me.
>> >> $>> $>
>> >> $>> $> Put the bus on top of an Atlas V rocket, light the candle,
>> >> $>> $> and watch it put the bus on an interstellar trajectory that
>> >> $>> $> will take it about 300,000 years just to reach Alpha
>> >> $>> $> Centauri . . ..
>> >> $>> $
>> >> $>> $Will he need a transfer on this trip?
>> >> $>
>> >> $> Won't matter.
>> >> $>
>> >> $> He won't have anything to transfer to.
>> >> $
>> >> $
>bus
>> >> fare to $continue the trip!
>> >
>> > Maybe they'll just treat him like the man from Boston in an
>> > old Kingston Trio song.
>> >
>> > Let me tell you the story
>> > Of a man named Charlie
>> > On a tragic and fateful day
>> > He put ten cents in his pocket,
>> > Kissed his wife and family
>> > Went to ride on the MTA
>> >
>> > Charlie handed in his dime
>> > At the Kendall Square Station
>> > And he changed for Jamaica Plain
>> > When he got there the conductor told him,
>> > "One more nickel."
>> > Charlie could not get off that train.
>> >
>> > Chorus:
>> > Did he ever return,
>> > No he never returned
>> > And his fate is still unlearn'd
>> > He may ride forever
>> > 'neath the streets of Boston
>> > He's the man who never returned.
>> >
>> > [snip]
>> LOL....good one (and sadly I know the song, what does that say about =
>my=20
>> childhood eh?)
>> --=20
>> PV
>
>You started sucking Dick at a very early age !!
>--
>John C.
TRUE!
The Doctor
The Doctor
>>
>> >> Still has anyone descript how $>> to get to $>> KAsterberus? $>> $>
>> >> > $> >> $>> $> > $> >> Go through $>> the Mutter's $>> Spiral, turn
>$>
>> >> > $> >> ignore the fork at Telos, $>> but take the first left at =
>$>>
>> >> $>> Skaro, keep going un=3D $> > $> $>> >til you $>> $>> $> > $> >> =
>go
>> >> past the second black hole, go $>> through the asteroid $>> $>> =
>belt
>> >> and Kasterber=3D $> > $> >us $>> $>> $>> $> > $> >> should be on =
>the
>> >> right... or maybe the left. But it's $>> $>> $>> there somewhere.
>$>>
>> >> $> > $> > $>> $>> $>> $> > $> >I'll happily contribute to buy him a
>> >> bus ticket. $>> $>> $>> $> > $> $>> $>> $>> $> > $> The mode of
>> >> transport is space rocket. $>> $>> $>> $> > $
>> >> $>> $>> $>> $> > $Don't be silly. Space rockets are sublight
>> >> vessels. You $>> $>> don't $>> want $> > $to make a 29,000 light
>> >> years journey in one! $>> $>> Even if you $>> were $> > $immortal,
>> >> it would still be rather $>> boring! $>> $>> $>
>> >> $>> $>> $>> $> Not to mention that rockets are incredibly
>> >> inefficient. As $>> $>> $>> $> a general rule, to put 1 kg of mass
>> >> into low Earth orbit $>> $>> $>> $> from the Earth's surface takes
>> >> about 19 kg of fuel. $>> $>> $>> $>
>> >> $>> $>> $>> $> You'd gain some efficiency improvements using ion
>> >> drives $>> $>> $>> $> similar to what NASA used on the Dawn mission
>> >> and the Deep $>> $>> $>> $> Space 1 mission. Or the ESA used on the
>> >> Smart 1 mission. $>> $>> $>> $> But those drives aren't powerful
>> >> enough to put a payload $>> $>> $>> $> into Earth orbit. You need
>> >> something else, like a $>> $>> $>> $> conventional rocket, to kick
>> >> start you on your way. $>> $>> $>> $>
>> >> $>> $>> $>> $> Then, to reach your destination in anything close to
>the
>> >> $>> speed of $>> $>> $> light, which brings in reletavistic =
>effects.
>> >> $>> $>> $>> $>
>> >> $>> $>> $>> $> > $> MSP scores 0/10.
>> >> $>> $>> $>> $> > $
>> >> $>> $>> $>> $> > $And you score the same. Space rocket indeed...
>> >> $>> $>> $>> $>
>> >> $>> $>> $>> $> Agreed. Rockets may have been fine for 1960s era TV
>> >> shows $>> $>> $>> $> like "Lost in Space". But for interstellar
>> >> travel, from a $>> $>> $>> $> practical point of view, they are
>> >> useless. $>> $>> $>> $>
>> >> $>> $>> $>> $
>> >> $>> $>> $>> $
>> >> $>> $>> $>> $I'll still contribute to buy him a bus ticket.
>> >> $>> $>> $>> $
>it
>> >> $>> takes $>> him to $>> $get there?...............as long as he's =
>no
>> >> $>> longer $>> *HERE*. $>
>> >> $>> $>> $> Works for me.
>> >> $>> $>> $>
>candle,
>> >> $>> $>> $> and watch it put the bus on an interstellar trajectory
>Alpha
>> >> $>> $>> $> Centauri . . ..
>> >> $>> $>> $
>> >> $>> $>> $Will he need a transfer on this trip?
>> >> $>> $>
>> >> $>> $> Won't matter.
>> >> $>> $>
>> >> $>> $> He won't have anything to transfer to.
>> >> $>> $
>> >> $>> $
>> Yup, I did and still do want to suck HJ's dick.
>> PV
>
>You sick !!
>--
>HJ
Indeed.
The Doctor
The Doctor
PV
I guess you could look at it that way if you are still living in the "New
World". On the other hand I agree with this quote in the light of today's
world. There are still people out there who live in a narrow minded bitter
world of their own making and would like nothing more then to impose it on
others rather then minding their own damn business.
--
Loaf of Bread
> Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 04:53:00 +0000, PV wrote:
>
> >> PV
>
> >> Puritanism is the haunting fear that someone, somewhere may be happy.
> >> H.L. Mencken
>
> > Yes, that's how a German immigrant might see it, I spose. In fact it
> > is more of a survivalist code against social deviation driven
> > by the early experiences of naive English Utopians in a neolithic
> > frontier setting. In the New World one lived carefully or not at all.
>
> World". On the other hand I agree with this quote in the light of today's
> world. There are still people out there who live in a narrow minded bitter
> world of their own making and would like nothing more then to impose it on
> others rather then minding their own damn business.
Yads comes immediately to mind. A man so insecure in his own beliefs
he can't stomache the idea that others have beliefs that are different
from his.
Loaf of Bread
> The Doctor wrote:
[snip]
> > Do you have an MP# of that?
>
> Is your Google broken you lazy twat?
He's just plain lazy. Just like he is too lazy to trim posts.
> Do people have to help you take a leak too?
Wouldn't surprise me in the least.
> Putz
Mr.Smartypants
> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 02:21:52 GMT, while chained to a desk in
> the scriptorium "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > $John Fleming wrote:
> > $> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:00:41 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> > $> desk in the scriptorium "Mr.Smartypants"
Plus it's a one-way ticket!
> --
>
> John Fleming
> Edmonton, Canada
>
> Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
> And on that farm he had a genome E-I-E-I-O
> With a SNP SNP here and a SNP SNP there,
> Here a SNP, there a SNP, everywhere a SNP SNP
> Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
PV
He was the inspriration of my liking of this quote, EVI and all his like
minded buddies.
--
Loaf of Bread
I can understand why.
Some of his ideas are so out in left field it's a good thing he isn't
running the country.
Loaf of Bread
Can I chip in too? The aliens at the destination won't appreciate us
sending him there, but I'll be long dead by the time he gets there, so
what do I care?
PV
Somehow I don't the think the Doc will ever be in a position to polish the
shoes of those running the country. If he even came close a few carefully
chosen usenet posts leaked to the press would solve that in a hurry.
--
pandora
Now known as the MBTA.
> Charlie handed in his dime
> At the Kendall Square Station
> And he changed for Jamaica Plain
> When he got there the conductor told him, "One more nickel."
> Charlie could not get off that train.
>
> Chorus:
> Did he ever return,
> No he never returned
> And his fate is still unlearn'd
> He may ride forever
> 'neath the streets of Boston
> He's the man who never returned.
>
> [snip]
An oldie and a goodie. :-)
My kids learned it as a nursery rhyme. (I lived in Boston for
3 years.)
pandora
That you had a good one. At least you listened to the Kingston
Trio. :-)
pandora
Hehehehehehe.
The Doctor
pandora
It's also one of my hubby's favorite quotes.
The Doctor
PV
Nice to know I am not alone in liking it :-)
--
PV
Actually more of the question of who controlled the radio on weekday
mornings and of course it was not the kids!
John Fleming
> $> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 04:53:00 +0000, PV wrote:
> $>
> $>> PV
> $>>
> $>> Puritanism is the haunting fear that someone, somewhere may be happy.
> $>> H.L. Mencken
> $>
> $> Yes, that's how a German immigrant might see it, I spose. In fact it
> $> is more of a survivalist code against social deviation driven
> $> by the early experiences of naive English Utopians in a neolithic
> $> frontier setting. In the New World one lived carefully or not at all.
> $
> $I guess you could look at it that way if you are still living in the "New
> $World". On the other hand I agree with this quote in the light of today's
> $world. There are still people out there who live in a narrow minded bitter
> $world of their own making and would like nothing more then to impose it on
> $others rather then minding their own damn business.
To think, if I understand my history right, the whole reason
the Puritans left England and came to the New World was to
get away from people who wanted to tell them what to
believe.
John Fleming
desk in the scriptorium Loaf of Bread <john...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> $On Jan 12, 1:18�pm, "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
> $> Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote:
> $>
> $> > On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 04:53:00 +0000, PV wrote:
> $>
> $> >> PV
> $>
> $> >> Puritanism is the haunting fear that someone, somewhere may be happy.
> $> >> H.L. Mencken
> $>
> $> > is more of a survivalist code against social deviation driven
> $> > by the early experiences of naive English Utopians in a neolithic
> $> > frontier setting. �In the New World one lived carefully or not at all.
> $>
> $> I guess you could look at it that way if you are still living in the "New
> $> World". �On the other hand I agree with this quote in the light of today's
> $> world. �There are still people out there who live in a narrow minded bitter
> $> world of their own making and would like nothing more then to impose it on
> $> others rather then minding their own damn business.
> $
> $Yads comes immediately to mind. A man so insecure in his own beliefs
> $he can't stomache the idea that others have beliefs that are different
> $from his.
I can understand why.
John Fleming
the scriptorium "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
> $Loaf of Bread wrote:
> $> On Jan 12, 2:17 pm, "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
> $>> Loaf of Bread wrote:
> $>>> On Jan 12, 1:18 pm, "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
> $>>>> Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote:
> $>>
> $>>>>> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 04:53:00 +0000, PV wrote:
> $>>
> $>>>>>> PV
> $>>
> $>>>>>> happy. H.L. Mencken
> $>>
> $>>>>> Yes, that's how a German immigrant might see it, I spose. In fact
> $>>>>> it is more of a survivalist code against social deviation driven
> $>>>>> by the early experiences of naive English Utopians in a neolithic
> $>>>>> frontier setting. In the New World one lived carefully or not at
> $>>>>> all.
> $>>
> $>>>> I guess you could look at it that way if you are still living in
> $>>>> the "New World". On the other hand I agree with this quote in the
> $>>>> light of today's world. There are still people out there who live
> $>>>> in a narrow minded bitter world of their own making and would like
> $>>>> nothing more then to impose it on others rather then minding their
> $>>>> own damn business.
> $>>
> $>>> Yads comes immediately to mind. A man so insecure in his own beliefs
> $>>> he can't stomache the idea that others have beliefs that are
> $>>> different from his.
> $>>
> $>> He was the inspriration of my liking of this quote, EVI and all his
> $>> like minded buddies.
> $>
> $> I can understand why.
> $>
> $> Some of his ideas are so out in left field it's a good thing he isn't
> $> running the country.
> $
> $Somehow I don't the think the Doc will ever be in a position to polish the
> $shoes of those running the country. If he even came close a few carefully
> $chosen usenet posts leaked to the press would solve that in a hurry.
Would it ever, PV, would it ever.
NDP candidate Malcolm Azania's political career was
torpedoed by posts to Usenet that were a really tame
compared with some of the stuff the doctor has posted over
the years.
John Fleming
> $> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 04:15:05 +0000, PV wrote:
> $>> John Fleming wrote:
> $>>> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 02:40:21 GMT, while chained to a desk in the> $>>>> $> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 02:21:52 GMT, while chained to a desk in $>> $>>>> Fleming wrote:
> $>>>> $>> $> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:00:41 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> $>>>> $>> $> desk in the scriptorium "Mr.Smartypants" $>> $>> $>>>> John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote: $>> $>> $> On Sun, 10 Jan
> $>>>> 2010 15:41:10 -0800 (PST), while chained to a $>> $>> $> desk in
> $>>>> the scriptorium solar penguin $>> $>> $>> $>>>> $>> $>> $> > $> In article
> $>>>> $>> $>>
> $>>>> $>>
> $>>>> <c8b13544-eca1-4f5a-94a6-59a53e51c...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
> $>>>> Jan $>> 9, $>> 11:43=A0am, "Stephen O'Connell" <no.s...@fk.u.com>
> $>>>> wrote: $> $>> > $> >> $>> "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
> $>>>> wrote $> > $> >> $>> $>> $> > $> >> > Still has anyone descript
> $>>>> how to get to $>> KAsterberus? $>> $> > $> >> $>> $> > $> >> Go
> $>>>> through the Mutter's $>> Spiral, turn right at Pluto, go $>>
> $>>>> through Andromeda= $>
> $>>>>> $> >, $>> $>> $> > $> >> ignore the fork at Telos, but take the
> $>>>>> til you $>> $>> $> > $> >> go past the second black hole, go
> $>>>> $>> $> > $> >> should be on the right... or maybe the left. But
> $>>>> >> are you going? $>> $>> $> > $> >
> $>>>> $>> $>> $> > $> >I'll happily contribute to buy him a bus ticket.
> $>>>> $>> $>> $> > $>
> $>>>> $>> $>> $> > $> The mode of transport is space rocket. $>> $>> $>
> $>>>> > $ $>> $>> $> > $Don't be silly. Space rockets are sublight
> $>>>> journey in one! $>> Even if you $>> were $> > $immortal, it would
> $>>>> still be rather boring! $>> $>> $>
> $>>>> $>> $>> $> Not to mention that rockets are incredibly inefficient.
> $>>>> orbit $>> $>> $> from the Earth's surface takes about 19 kg of
> $>>>> fuel. $>> $>> $>
> $>>>> $>> $>> $> You'd gain some efficiency improvements using ion drives
> $>>>> Deep $>> $>> $> Space 1 mission. Or the ESA used on the Smart 1
> $>>>> mission. $>> $>> $> But those drives aren't powerful enough to put
> $>>>> a payload $>> $>> $> into Earth orbit. You need something else,
> $>>>> like a $>> $>> $> conventional rocket, to kick start you on your
> $>>>> way. $>> $>> $> $>> $>> $> Then, to reach your destination in
> $>>>> anything close to 29,000 $>> $>> $> years, you'd need to travel
> $>>>> fairly close to the speed of $>> $>> $> light, which brings in
> $>>>> reletavistic effects. $>> $>> $> $>> $>> $> > $> MSP scores 0/10.
> $>>>> $>> $>> $> > $
> $>>>> $>> $>
> $>>>> $>> $>> $> Agreed. Rockets may have been fine for 1960s era TV
> $>>>> travel, from a $>> $>> $> practical point of view, they are
> $>>>> useless. $>> $>> $> $>> $>> $
> $>>>> $>> $>> $
> $>>>> $>> $>> $I'll still contribute to buy him a bus ticket. $>> $>> $
> $>>>> $>> $>> $Why should I give a flying f*** how many light years it
> $>>>> takes $>> him to $>> $get there?...............as long as he's no
> $>>>> longer $>> *HERE*. $>
> $>>>> $>> $> Works for me.
> $>>>> $>> $>
> $>>>> $>> $> Put the bus on top of an Atlas V rocket, light the candle,
> $>>>> $>> $> will take it about 300,000 years just to reach Alpha $>> $>
> $>>>> Centauri . . ..
> $>>>> $>> $
> $>>>> $>> $Will he need a transfer on this trip? $>
> $>>>> $> Won't matter.
> $>>>> $>
> $>>>> $> He won't have anything to transfer to. $
> $>>>> $Just don't want him to go all the way there and not have enough
> $>>>
> $>>> Maybe they'll just treat him like the man from Boston in an old
> $>>> Kingston Trio song.
> $>>>
> $>>> Let me tell you the story
> $>>> Of a man named Charlie
> $>>> On a tragic and fateful day
> $>>> He put ten cents in his pocket,
> $>>> Kissed his wife and family
> $>>> Went to ride on the MTA
> $>>>
> $>>> Charlie handed in his dime
> $>>> At the Kendall Square Station
> $>>> And he changed for Jamaica Plain
> $>>> When he got there the conductor told him, "One more nickel."
> $>>> Charlie could not get off that train.
> $>>>
> $>>> Chorus:
> $>>> Did he ever return,
> $>>> No he never returned
> $>>> He may ride forever
> $>>> He's the man who never returned.
> $>>>
> $>>> [snip]
> $>>
> $>> LOL....good one (and sadly I know the song, what does that say about
> $>> my childhood eh?)
> $>
> $> That you had a good one. At least you listened to the Kingston
> $> Trio. :-)
> $
> $Actually more of the question of who controlled the radio on weekday
> $mornings and of course it was not the kids!
Same thing around my house.
The only time we kids got to decide what radio station to
listen to, or what got played on the stereo system, was when
our parents weren't home.
John Fleming
in the scriptorium "idlehands" <hidefromu@nospam h u s
h.c0m> wrote:
> $The Doctor wrote:
> $> In article <p7snk5d6io32g3raa...@4ax.com>,
> $> John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> $>> Maybe they'll just treat him like the man from Boston in an
> $>> old Kingston Trio song.
> $>>
> $>> Let me tell you the story
> $>> Of a man named Charlie
> $>> On a tragic and fateful day
> $>> He put ten cents in his pocket,
> $>> Kissed his wife and family
> $>> Went to ride on the MTA
> $>>
> $>> Charlie handed in his dime
> $>> At the Kendall Square Station
> $>> And he changed for Jamaica Plain
> $>> When he got there the conductor told him,
> $>> "One more nickel."
> $>> Charlie could not get off that train.
> $>>
> $>> Chorus:
> $>> Did he ever return,
> $>> No he never returned
> $>> And his fate is still unlearn'd
> $>> He may ride forever
> $>> 'neath the streets of Boston
> $>> He's the man who never returned.
> $>>
> $>> [snip]
> $>>
> $<snip>
> $> Do you have an MP# of that?
> $
> $Is your Google broken you lazy twat?
> $
> $Do people have to help you take a leak too?
> $
> $Putz
Well said idlehands.
When I needed the exact lyrics, it took me all of a few
seconds to find them using Google. It's really not all that
difficult.
John Fleming
in the scriptorium pandora <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:53:55 -0700, John Fleming wrote:
> $> Maybe they'll just treat him like the man from Boston in an old Kingston
> $> Trio song.
> $>
> $> Let me tell you the story
> $> Of a man named Charlie
> $> On a tragic and fateful day
> $> He put ten cents in his pocket,
> $> Kissed his wife and family
> $> Went to ride on the MTA
> $
> $Now known as the MBTA.
> $
> $> Charlie handed in his dime
> $> At the Kendall Square Station
> $> And he changed for Jamaica Plain
> $> When he got there the conductor told him, "One more nickel."
> $> Charlie could not get off that train.
> $>
> $> Chorus:
> $> Did he ever return,
> $> No he never returned
> $> And his fate is still unlearn'd
> $> He may ride forever
> $> 'neath the streets of Boston
> $> He's the man who never returned.
> $>
> $> [snip]
> $
> $An oldie and a goodie. :-)
> $My kids learned it as a nursery rhyme. (I lived in Boston for
> $3 years.)
LOL
My parents had a recording, which is how I learned it.
Duncan Patton a Campbell
> Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 04:53:00 +0000, PV wrote:
>>
>>> PV
>>>
>>> Puritanism is the haunting fear that someone, somewhere may be happy.
>>> H.L. Mencken
>>
>> Yes, that's how a German immigrant might see it, I spose. In fact it
>> is more of a survivalist code against social deviation driven by the
>> early experiences of naive English Utopians in a neolithic frontier
>> setting. In the New World one lived carefully or not at all.
>>
>> Dhu
>
> I guess you could look at it that way if you are still living in the
> "New World". On the other hand I agree with this quote in the light of
> today's world. There are still people out there who live in a narrow
> minded bitter world of their own making and would like nothing more then
> to impose it on others rather then minding their own damn business.
Don't delude yourself. The Puritans saw themselves as the cusp of
modernity, too.
The Doctor
The Doctor
The Doctor
The Doctor
Stephen O'Connell
news:a4qdnTfBWIUyY9HW...@scnresearch.com...
> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:53:55 -0700, John Fleming wrote:
>>
>> Maybe they'll just treat him like the man from Boston in an old Kingston
>> Trio song.
>>
>> Let me tell you the story
>> Of a man named Charlie
>> On a tragic and fateful day
>> He put ten cents in his pocket,
>> Kissed his wife and family
>> Went to ride on the MTA
>
> Now known as the MBTA.
The song was reworked by the Dropkick Murphys as 'Skinhead on the MBTA'!
PV
Ummm, sure, what ever, have no idea of what you are trying to say or
suggest.
--
The Doctor
Loaf of Bread
> In article <a4qdnTbBWIVGY9HWnZ2dnUVZ_s1i4...@scnresearch.com>,
[snip]
As usual, you have nothing of value to add to the conversation.
So why don't you just FOAD?
Mr.Smartypants
I think we should start a fund. The "Send Yads to the Outer Reaches of
Intergalatic Space" Fund. All donations gratefully accepted. Receipts
will be issued.
Mr.Smartypants
Other way around. The Puritans were busy trying to tell everyone else
what to believe/do and were told politely "if you don't like it FO."
So they did.
> --
>
> John Fleming
> Edmonton, Canada
>
> Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
> And on that farm he had a genome E-I-E-I-O
> With a SNP SNP here and a SNP SNP there,
> Here a SNP, there a SNP, everywhere a SNP SNP
> Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Mr.Smartypants
Seriously John do you think we'd even have to be bothered to bring up
Yads's posts?
Assuming he ever did get elected all he'd have to do is open his
piehole and the gibberish that spewed forth would terminate his
career.
> --
>
> John Fleming
> Edmonton, Canada
>
> Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
> And on that farm he had a genome E-I-E-I-O
> With a SNP SNP here and a SNP SNP there,
> Here a SNP, there a SNP, everywhere a SNP SNP
pandora
You're definitely not alone.
pandora
Ah, I see. You didn't have your own transistor radio as I did.
PV
I did but we weren't encouraged (read "forbidden") to bring it to the
breakfast table, where the radio was tuned to Mom and Dad's station. My own
kids get grumpy when I forbid MP3 players at the table :-)
pandora
And people say the *net* isn't good for anything. :-)
> NDP candidate Malcolm Azania's political career was torpedoed by posts
> to Usenet that were a really tame compared with some of the stuff the
> doctor has posted over the years.
I've seen enough of his posts that *I* certainly wouldn't vote for
such as he even if he ran for crossing guard.
pandora
I actually DID get lost on the MTA once. Although I was able to
get off the train and retrace my steps back to the stop at Filene's
basement and thence to the right train going to Cambridge. I still
don't know how I got on the wrong train but it took me a long time
to get back on track. When I finally saw the Charleston station
coming up, I nearly leapt for joy.
> My parents had a recording, which is how I learned it.
Ah. It was one of my favorites eons ago. Yeah, I was a folk
song afficionado. :-)
pandora
I've never heard of them. I guess I'm a bit behind.
pandora
Heh.
The Doctor
Mr.Smartypants <bc...@canada.com> wrote:
>On Jan 12, 9:40=A0pm, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:18:51 GMT, while chained to a desk in
>> the scriptorium "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > $Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote:
>> > $> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 04:53:00 +0000, PV wrote:
>> > $>
>> > $>> PV
>> > $>>
>y.
>> > $>> H.L. Mencken
>> > $>
> it
>> > $> is more of a survivalist code against social deviation driven
>> > $> by the early experiences of naive English Utopians in a neolithic
>all.
>> > $
>> > $I guess you could look at it that way if you are still living in the "=
>New
>> > $World". =A0On the other hand I agree with this quote in the light of t=
>oday's
>> > $world. =A0There are still people out there who live in a narrow minded=
> bitter
>> > $world of their own making and would like nothing more then to impose i=
>t on
>> > $others rather then minding their own damn business.
>>
>> To think, if I understand my history right, the whole reason
>> the Puritans left England and came to the New World was to
>> get away from people who wanted to tell them what to
>> believe.
>>
>
>
>Other way around. The Puritans were busy trying to tell everyone else
>what to believe/do and were told politely "if you don't like it FO."
>So they did.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> --
>>
>> John Fleming
>> Edmonton, Canada
>>
>> =A0 =A0 =A0And on that farm he had a genome E-I-E-I-O
>> =A0 =A0 =A0With a SNP SNP here and a SNP SNP there,
>> =A0 =A0 =A0Here a SNP, there a SNP, everywhere a SNP SNP
>> =A0 =A0 =A0Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
Like your anti-Jewish rants?
The Doctor
Mr.Smartypants <bc...@canada.com> wrote:
>On Jan 12, 9:42=A0pm, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:32:37 GMT, while chained to a desk in
>> the scriptorium "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > $Loaf of Bread wrote:
>> > $> On Jan 12, 2:17 pm, "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
>> > $>> Loaf of Bread wrote:
>> > $>>> On Jan 12, 1:18 pm, "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
>> > $>>>> Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote:
>> > $>>
>> > $>>>>> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 04:53:00 +0000, PV wrote:
>> > $>>
>> > $>>>>>> PV
>> > $>>
>> > $>>>>>> Puritanism is the haunting fear that someone, somewhere may be
>> > $>>>>>> happy. H.L. Mencken
>> > $>>
>t
>> > $>>>>> it is more of a survivalist code against social deviation driven
>c
>> > $>>>>> frontier setting. In the New World one lived carefully or not at
>> > $>>>>> all.
>> > $>>
>> > $>>>> I guess you could look at it that way if you are still living in
>> > $>>>> the "New World". On the other hand I agree with this quote in the
>> > $>>>> light of today's world. There are still people out there who live
>e
>> > $>>>> nothing more then to impose it on others rather then minding thei=
>r
>> > $>>>> own damn business.
>> > $>>
>fs
>> > $>>> he can't stomache the idea that others have beliefs that are
>> > $>>> different from his.
>> > $>>
>> > $>> He was the inspriration of my liking of this quote, EVI and all his
>> > $>> like minded buddies.
>> > $>
>> > $> I can understand why.
>> > $>
>t
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>> > $shoes of those running the country. =A0If he even came close a few car=
>efully
>> > $chosen usenet posts leaked to the press would solve that in a hurry.
>>
>> Would it ever, PV, would it ever.
>>
>> NDP candidate Malcolm Azania's political career was
>> torpedoed by posts to Usenet that were a really tame
>> compared with some of the stuff the doctor has posted over
>> the years.
>>
>
>
>Seriously John do you think we'd even have to be bothered to bring up
>Yads's posts?
>
>Assuming he ever did get elected all he'd have to do is open his
>piehole and the gibberish that spewed forth would terminate his
>career.
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>> John Fleming
>> Edmonton, Canada
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I would like to RH run for the NSWPC.
The Doctor
pandora
Count me in. I'll donate a twenty.
Duncan Patton a Campbell
> Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:18:51 +0000, PV wrote:
>>
>>> Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 04:53:00 +0000, PV wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> PV
>>>>>
>>>>> Puritanism is the haunting fear that someone, somewhere may be
>>>>> happy. H.L. Mencken
>>>>
>>>> Yes, that's how a German immigrant might see it, I spose. In fact it
>>>> is more of a survivalist code against social deviation driven by the
>>>> early experiences of naive English Utopians in a neolithic frontier
>>>> setting. In the New World one lived carefully or not at all.
>>>>
>>>> Dhu
>>>
>>> I guess you could look at it that way if you are still living in the
>>> "New World". On the other hand I agree with this quote in the light
>>> of today's world. There are still people out there who live in a
>>> narrow minded bitter world of their own making and would like nothing
>>> more then to impose it on others rather then minding their own damn
>>> business.
>>
>> Don't delude yourself. The Puritans saw themselves as the cusp of
>> modernity, too.
>>
>> Dhu
>
> Ummm, sure, what ever, have no idea of what you are trying to say or
> suggest.
That because of the physics we live with what you see, and apparently
all of your attitudes, are determined by shit that's already happened.
You imagine what you see is a steady state. It ain't.
PV
Okay then, so if I changed Puritan to Fundamentalist that would improve it?
Would it be more modern, more in touch with what is actually happening
today?
The fact you think you know what I imagine from a 11 word quote is simply
amazing.....but wrong. The only thing constant in the world today is
change.
--
John Fleming
desk in the scriptorium "Mr.Smartypants" <bc...@canada.com>
wrote:
> $On Jan 12, 9:42�pm, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> $> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:32:37 GMT, while chained to a desk in
> $> the scriptorium "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
> $> > $Loaf of Bread wrote:
> $> > $> On Jan 12, 2:17 pm, "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
> $> > $>> Loaf of Bread wrote:
> $> > $>>> On Jan 12, 1:18 pm, "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
> $> > $>>>> Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote:
> $> > $>>
> $> > $>>>>> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 04:53:00 +0000, PV wrote:
> $> > $>>
> $> > $>>>>>> PV
> $> > $>>
> $> > $>>>>>> Puritanism is the haunting fear that someone, somewhere may be
> $> > $>>
> $> > $>>>>> Yes, that's how a German immigrant might see it, I spose. In fact
> $> > $>>>>> by the early experiences of naive English Utopians in a neolithic
> $> > $>>>>> frontier setting. In the New World one lived carefully or not at
> $> > $>>>>> all.
> $> > $>>
> $> > $>>>> I guess you could look at it that way if you are still living in
> $> > $>>>> light of today's world. There are still people out there who live
> $> > $>>>> in a narrow minded bitter world of their own making and would like
> $> > $>>>> nothing more then to impose it on others rather then minding their
> $> > $>>>> own damn business.
> $> > $>>
> $> > $>>> Yads comes immediately to mind. A man so insecure in his own beliefs
> $> > $>>> different from his.
> $> > $>>
> $> > $>> He was the inspriration of my liking of this quote, EVI and all his
> $> > $>
> $> > $> I can understand why.
> $> > $>
> $> > $> Some of his ideas are so out in left field it's a good thing he isn't
> $> > $
> $> > $Somehow I don't the think the Doc will ever be in a position to polish the
> $> > $chosen usenet posts leaked to the press would solve that in a hurry.
> $>
> $> Would it ever, PV, would it ever.
> $>
> $> NDP candidate Malcolm Azania's political career was
> $> torpedoed by posts to Usenet that were a really tame
> $> compared with some of the stuff the doctor has posted over
> $> the years.
> $
> $Seriously John do you think we'd even have to be bothered to bring up
> $Yads's posts?
> $
> $Assuming he ever did get elected all he'd have to do is open his
> $piehole and the gibberish that spewed forth would terminate his
> $career.
Not bringing up the Usenet posts in the expectations he will
sink himself verbally is kind of like Hitler holding back
the Wehrmacht at Dunkirk because Goering claimed his
Luftwaffe could do the job.
No, I say we send in the tanks. Hit him hard while he can't
defend himself.
John Fleming
in the scriptorium pandora <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:42:56 -0700, John Fleming wrote:
> $> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:32:37 GMT, while chained to a desk in the
> $> scriptorium "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
> $>> $Loaf of Bread wrote:
> $>> $> On Jan 12, 2:17 pm, "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote: $>> Loaf
> $>> of Bread wrote:
> $>> $>>> On Jan 12, 1:18 pm, "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote: $>>>>
> $>> Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote: $>>
> $>> $>>>>> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 04:53:00 +0000, PV wrote: $>>
> $>> $>>
> $>> $>>>>>> Puritanism is the haunting fear that someone, somewhere may be
> $>> $>>
> $>> $>>>>> Yes, that's how a German immigrant might see it, I spose. In
> $>> driven $>>>>> by the early experiences of naive English Utopians in a
> $>> neolithic $>>>>> frontier setting. In the New World one lived carefully
> $>> or not at $>>>>> all.
> $>> $>>
> $>> $>>>> I guess you could look at it that way if you are still living in
> $>> $>>>> light of today's world. There are still people out there who live
> $>> $>>>> in a narrow minded bitter world of their own making and would
> $>> like $>>>> nothing more then to impose it on others rather then minding
> $>> their $>>>> own damn business.
> $>> $>>
> $>> $>>> Yads comes immediately to mind. A man so insecure in his own
> $>> are $>>> different from his.
> $>> $>>
> $>> $>> He was the inspriration of my liking of this quote, EVI and all his
> $>> $>
> $>> $> I can understand why.
> $>> $>
> $>> $> Some of his ideas are so out in left field it's a good thing he
> $>> $
> $>> $Somehow I don't the think the Doc will ever be in a position to polish
> $>> carefully $chosen usenet posts leaked to the press would solve that in
> $>> a hurry.
> $>
> $> Would it ever, PV, would it ever.
> $
> $And people say the *net* isn't good for anything. :-)
> $
> $> NDP candidate Malcolm Azania's political career was torpedoed by posts
> $> to Usenet that were a really tame compared with some of the stuff the
> $> doctor has posted over the years.
> $
> $I've seen enough of his posts that *I* certainly wouldn't vote for
> $such as he even if he ran for crossing guard.
That's why they have to be made public during an election
campaign. It's not enough for just posters to Usenet to
know the truth. Nay, everyone has to know the truth.
John Fleming
the scriptorium "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
> $Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote:
> $> On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:35:06 +0000, PV wrote:
> $>> Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote:
> $>>> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:18:51 +0000, PV wrote:
> $>>>
> $>>>> Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote:
> $>>>>> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 04:53:00 +0000, PV wrote:
> $>>>>>
> $>>>>>> PV
> $>>>>>>
> $>>>>>> happy. H.L. Mencken
> $>>>>>
> $>>>>> fact it is more of a survivalist code against social deviation
> $>>>>> driven by the early experiences of naive English Utopians in a
> $>>>>> neolithic frontier setting. In the New World one lived carefully
> $>>>>> or not at all.
> $>>>>>
> $>>>>> Dhu
> $>>>>
> $>>>> I guess you could look at it that way if you are still living in
> $>>>> the "New World". On the other hand I agree with this quote in the
> $>>>> light of today's world. There are still people out there who live
> $>>>> in a narrow minded bitter world of their own making and would like
> $>>>> nothing more then to impose it on others rather then minding their
> $>>>> own damn business.
> $>>>
> $>>> modernity, too.
> $>>>
> $>>> Dhu
> $>>
> $>> Ummm, sure, what ever, have no idea of what you are trying to say or
> $>> suggest.
> $>
> $> That because of the physics we live with what you see, and apparently
> $> all of your attitudes, are determined by shit that's already happened.
> $>
> $> You imagine what you see is a steady state. It ain't.
> $>
> $> Dhu
> $
> $Okay then, so if I changed Puritan to Fundamentalist that would improve it?
> $Would it be more modern, more in touch with what is actually happening
> $today?
You could probably get away with it.
> $The fact you think you know what I imagine from a 11 word quote is simply
> $amazing.....but wrong. The only thing constant in the world today is
> $change.