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Who are currently your 3 favorite Torchwood show characters and why ?

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Sab

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Nov 8, 2009, 9:43:02 PM11/8/09
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Who are currently your 3 favorite season 1-2 (and what little there
was of season 3) Torchwood show characters and please separately
say why, for each fave character named.

Monsieur Tabernac

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Nov 8, 2009, 9:48:17 PM11/8/09
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:43:02 -0800 (PST), Sab <sab...@hotmail.com>
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>Who are currently your 3 favorite season 1-2 (and what little there
>was of season 3) Torchwood show characters and please separately
>say why, for each fave character named.

Who are yours?

jewahe

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Nov 8, 2009, 9:57:22 PM11/8/09
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Tosh
Harness
Ianto
Gwen
Owen

Actually, I despise Owen, and I'm glad he died.

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argento32

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Nov 9, 2009, 3:28:22 AM11/9/09
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Owen

Jack

Gwen

Hated Ianto

AlanZarbury

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Nov 9, 2009, 6:46:43 AM11/9/09
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Is there some point to this?

Soze

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"AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in message
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To create general discussion amongst those who care I guess. I could of
course raise the question of what the point of talking about Yads is ( or
indeed what the point of Yads is at all! )...

Can`t say I ever liked any of the Torchwood characters much personally,
always found them quite devoid of much characterisation....although there
are things I`d like to do to Gwen of course.

Agamemnon

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"Sab" <sab...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Who are currently your 3 favorite season 1-2 (and what little there
> was of season 3) Torchwood show characters and please separately
> say why, for each fave character named.

Arsebird
Pilotbird
Captain Jack (because I can't think of any other birds in it I fancy and
Welshbird looks like a gerbil)


AlanZarbury

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Nov 9, 2009, 10:25:02 AM11/9/09
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I don't think it's intended to be a list of people you fancy Aggy, but
it's good you're finally admitting your feelings for Barrowman.

And Eve Myles is hot IMHO.

The Doctor

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I prefer Eve MYles's gutsy character.
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The Doctor

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Myles yes!!

Ignis Fatuus

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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:43:02 -0800 (PST), Sab <sab...@hotmail.com>
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>Who are currently your 3 favorite season 1-2 (and what little there


>was of season 3) Torchwood show characters and please separately
>say why, for each fave character named.

Owen - Dead
Tosh - Dead
Ianto - Dead

Harkness can't be killed off (although he could be ditched in a Black
Hole) - so I can only hope that the series is also Dead.

Ignis Fatuus

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Nov 9, 2009, 11:29:36 AM11/9/09
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But you fancy Jack???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mac Breck

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Nov 9, 2009, 11:42:16 AM11/9/09
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SPOILER ABOUT CAPT. jACK HARKNESS FROM DOCTOR WHO SERIES 3 OR 4.
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.

Harkness *is* The Face of Bo, and he dies in a David Tennant "Doctor
Who" episode. Can't remember if it was in Series (Season) 3 or 4.

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again."


The Doctor

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Nov 9, 2009, 11:50:54 AM11/9/09
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Who will be the new TW?

AlanZarbury

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Nov 9, 2009, 12:21:58 PM11/9/09
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This would explain why he watches every programme Barrowman is on.

AlanZarbury

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Nov 9, 2009, 12:23:21 PM11/9/09
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Mac Breck wrote:
> Ignis Fatuus wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:43:02 -0800 (PST), Sab <sab...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Who are currently your 3 favorite season 1-2 (and what little there
>>> was of season 3) Torchwood show characters and please separately
>>> say why, for each fave character named.
>> Owen - Dead
>> Tosh - Dead
>> Ianto - Dead
>>
>> Harkness can't be killed off (although he could be ditched in a Black
>> Hole) - so I can only hope that the series is also Dead.
>
> SPOILER ABOUT CAPT. jACK HARKNESS FROM DOCTOR WHO SERIES 3 OR 4.
> .
> .

Not a spoiler. It was only speculation and even RTD was non-committal
about it in an interview.

Anim8rFSK

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Nov 9, 2009, 12:32:05 PM11/9/09
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<d39e1fe6-f346-42c5...@x25g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Sab <sab...@hotmail.com> wrote:

no

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Mac Breck

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Nov 9, 2009, 1:03:43 PM11/9/09
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AlanZarbury wrote:
> Mac Breck wrote:
>> Ignis Fatuus wrote:
>>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:43:02 -0800 (PST), Sab <sab...@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Who are currently your 3 favorite season 1-2 (and what little there
>>>> was of season 3) Torchwood show characters and please separately
>>>> say why, for each fave character named.
>>> Owen - Dead
>>> Tosh - Dead
>>> Ianto - Dead
>>>
>>> Harkness can't be killed off (although he could be ditched in a
>>> Black Hole) - so I can only hope that the series is also Dead.
>>
>> SPOILER ABOUT CAPT. JACK HARKNESS FROM DOCTOR WHO SERIES 3 OR 4.

>> .
>> .
>
> Not a spoiler. It was only speculation and even RTD was non-committal
> about it in an interview.

:-?
...about whether it was true that Capt. Jack Harkness truly *is/was* The
Face of Bo, or whether Capt. Jack Harkness/The Face of Bo *died* in that
episode, or both? I thought it was pretty much stated in the episode
that Harkness was The Face of Bo, i.e. a fact, not speculation.

Re. the spoiler warning, I was just trying to err on the safe side. ;-)

AlanZarbury

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Nov 9, 2009, 1:10:49 PM11/9/09
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Mac Breck wrote:
> AlanZarbury wrote:
>> Mac Breck wrote:
>>> Ignis Fatuus wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:43:02 -0800 (PST), Sab <sab...@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Who are currently your 3 favorite season 1-2 (and what little there
>>>>> was of season 3) Torchwood show characters and please separately
>>>>> say why, for each fave character named.
>>>> Owen - Dead
>>>> Tosh - Dead
>>>> Ianto - Dead
>>>>
>>>> Harkness can't be killed off (although he could be ditched in a
>>>> Black Hole) - so I can only hope that the series is also Dead.
>>> SPOILER ABOUT CAPT. JACK HARKNESS FROM DOCTOR WHO SERIES 3 OR 4.
>>> .
>>> .
>> Not a spoiler. It was only speculation and even RTD was non-committal
>> about it in an interview.
>
> :-?
> ...about whether it was true that Capt. Jack Harkness truly *is/was* The
> Face of Bo,

Yes.

Soze

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Nov 9, 2009, 1:26:51 PM11/9/09
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"Mac Breck" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> AlanZarbury wrote:
>> Mac Breck wrote:
>>> Ignis Fatuus wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:43:02 -0800 (PST), Sab <sab...@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Who are currently your 3 favorite season 1-2 (and what little there
>>>>> was of season 3) Torchwood show characters and please separately
>>>>> say why, for each fave character named.
>>>> Owen - Dead
>>>> Tosh - Dead
>>>> Ianto - Dead
>>>>
>>>> Harkness can't be killed off (although he could be ditched in a
>>>> Black Hole) - so I can only hope that the series is also Dead.
>>>
>>> SPOILER ABOUT CAPT. JACK HARKNESS FROM DOCTOR WHO SERIES 3 OR 4.
>>> .
>>> .
>>
>> Not a spoiler. It was only speculation and even RTD was non-committal
>> about it in an interview.
>
> :-?
> ...about whether it was true that Capt. Jack Harkness truly *is/was* The
> Face of Bo, or whether Capt. Jack Harkness/The Face of Bo *died* in that
> episode, or both? I thought it was pretty much stated in the episode
> that Harkness was The Face of Bo, i.e. a fact, not speculation.

RTD has said it was a throwaway line added quite late and he`s not sure in
his own mind whether it`s to be taken to be truth or not.


Mac Breck

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Nov 9, 2009, 1:54:44 PM11/9/09
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So, basically they don't know what they're writing and they could change
their minds any time to retcon whatever they want. Sounds like monkeys
in a room banging on keyboards. Man, I'm glad he's gone from Doctor
Who.

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Soze

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Nov 9, 2009, 2:33:14 PM11/9/09
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"Mike Henry" <{$mrtickle$}@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In <7lr579F...@mid.individual.net>, "Soze"
> That's preposterous backpeddling on his part, then. They made a big thing
> of it in the episode - but I expect RTD would also claim that the Doctor
> had a "throwaway reaction" to it (!).

A big thing? From what I remember it was just a tagged on final scene played
for laughs. A man says to the Doctor and Martha - "oh I remember Jack...or
the Face of Boe as we used to call him"...and then the Doctor and Rose look
at each other and say "No - it couldn`t be - could it?!". Just a jokey
scene....it certainly wasn`t a big deal. RTD said this scene didn`t mean
Jack actually *was* the Face of Boe but that he could be if future writers
decided to go down that path.


john smith

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"Ignis Fatuus" <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote in message
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Why would you hope that? If it does return you do realise you don't *have*
to watch it?


Agamemnon

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Nov 9, 2009, 3:00:39 PM11/9/09
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"Ignis Fatuus" <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote in message
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No, but you are a troll.


john smith

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"Agamemnon" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
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He's only pointing out what *you* said!


Enzo Matrix

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Sab wrote:
> Who are currently your 3 favorite season 1-2 (and what little there
> was of season 3) Torchwood show characters and please separately
> say why, for each fave character named.

I liked the Blowfish, 'cos he drove a sports car.

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I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.


AlanZarbury

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Nov 9, 2009, 5:14:29 PM11/9/09
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No, it means they have a sense of humour. The Boe line was just a bit of
fun, and leaving it open is not a "retcon".

AlanZarbury

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Nov 9, 2009, 5:16:00 PM11/9/09
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Mike Henry wrote:
> In <7lr579F...@mid.individual.net>, "Soze"
> <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> That's preposterous backpeddling on his part, then. They made a big thing
> of it in the episode - but I expect RTD would also claim that the Doctor
> had a "throwaway reaction" to it (!).
>
> Luckily, what RTD is sure of in his own mind doesn't matter any more in
> that it won't affect the series any more.

For FUCK'S SAKE! Some fans! LOL!

It was NOT a "big thing". It was a lightweight epilogue to a story.

AlanZarbury

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Nov 9, 2009, 5:18:45 PM11/9/09
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John, you're talking to a guy who's hated Doctor Who since 1966 and he
still watches it! :-)

AlanZarbury

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Nov 9, 2009, 5:19:31 PM11/9/09
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So why did you include Jack on your fanciable list? Methinks the Ag doth
protest too much.

Ignis Fatuus

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Nov 9, 2009, 5:52:10 PM11/9/09
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I would need Cast Iron assurances that it will Never again return to
pollute DW.

Ignis Fatuus

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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:18:45 +0000, AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo>
wrote:

I've enjoyed the majority of New Who (although the prospect of Smith
as Baby-Doc fills me with dread).

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The Doctor

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TRoll on Zarbitroll.

Mac Breck

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Mike Henry wrote:
> In <7lr579F...@mid.individual.net>, "Soze"
> <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
> That's preposterous backpeddling on his part, then. They made a big
> thing of it in the episode - but I expect RTD would also claim that
> the Doctor had a "throwaway reaction" to it (!).
>
> Luckily, what RTD is sure of in his own mind doesn't matter any more
> in that it won't affect the series any more.

What he said!!!

The Doctor

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Nov 9, 2009, 6:55:37 PM11/9/09
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In article <INedndA7Ko5e0mXX...@bt.com>,

True indeed.

The Doctor

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In article <ANIM8Rfsk-F0974...@news.dc1.easynews.com>,

Oh! Boy.

The Doctor

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Nov 9, 2009, 6:58:03 PM11/9/09
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In article <gM2dneAsx8J_x2XX...@bt.com>,

As proven in LAst of the TimeLords.

The Doctor

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In article <7lr579F...@mid.individual.net>,

So even RTD is mixed up.

Mac Breck

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Nov 9, 2009, 6:59:34 PM11/9/09
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If I had the episode I'd look (I don't because I saw it via Netflix
DVDs.), but it didn't seem like a jokey scene to me. It was a
revelation, not a joke. Anybody remember which episode it was?

The Doctor

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In article <n3qgf5l0p5rfrmbgg...@4ax.com>,

Mike Henry <{$usenet-spamdump$}@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>In <7lr579F...@mid.individual.net>, "Soze"
><I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>That's preposterous backpeddling on his part, then. They made a big thing
>of it in the episode - but I expect RTD would also claim that the Doctor
>had a "throwaway reaction" to it (!).
>
>Luckily, what RTD is sure of in his own mind doesn't matter any more in
>that it won't affect the series any more.

IF RTD knows if he is coming or going.

AlanZarbury

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:01:35 PM11/9/09
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If it's standards are as high as they were for Children of Earth, bring
it on!

AlanZarbury

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:02:10 PM11/9/09
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Just lie back and think of Karen Gillan's legs.

AlanZarbury

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:03:39 PM11/9/09
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Mike Henry wrote:
>
>
> I just recognise that RTD leaving is a good thing.

RTD being the man who brought it back and made it incredibly popular?

The Doctor

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In article <Wh_Jm.50866$%%3.4...@newsfe23.ams2>,

HArkness needs his morals checked.

The Doctor

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In article <__2dnTHOZcl_6WXXn...@eclipse.net.uk>,

IF a troll? REally? Nah! Wilson, smith and Sailsbury OTOH ...

AlanZarbury

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It was a small, lighthearted scene. Why are you so fixated by it?

The Doctor

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In article <pC_Jm.50868$%%3.1...@newsfe23.ams2>,

TRoll on in john smith.

The Doctor

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In article <c6adnRqjveBjDmXX...@bt.com>,

Y.A.N.A.

The Doctor

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:17:03 PM11/9/09
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In article <c6adnRWjveDECWXX...@bt.com>,
>For SAKE! Some fans! LOL!

>
>It was NOT a "big thing". It was a lightweight epilogue to a story.
>

TRoll Mike Henry I see Zarbitroll.

The Doctor

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In article <c6adnRejveBjCWXX...@bt.com>,

2 trolls setting a forest on fire.

The Doctor

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In article <c6adnRajveCxCGXX...@bt.com>,

TRoll Ag when he can't hear you. LOL!

Mac Breck

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:23:25 PM11/9/09
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I'm not fixated by it. When I saw the episode, it didn't strike me as a
joke, but as a bit of revealed truth that seemed to "fit." Now. it's
like RTD's saying "Oh, we didn't mean it. ...maybe, ...or maybe we did.
Well, we just don't know."

The Doctor

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:30:24 PM11/9/09
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In article <d67hf5t9fq7sa1hhr...@4ax.com>,

What? Torturewood?

AlanZarbury

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:31:46 PM11/9/09
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That's right. So?

The Doctor

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:31:01 PM11/9/09
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In article <397hf55ll50luv0ko...@4ax.com>,

Give him a chance!!

The Doctor

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:31:49 PM11/9/09
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In article <hg7hf55ete6bn2m67...@4ax.com>,

Mike Henry <{$usenet-spamdump$}@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>In <c6adnRWjveDECWXX...@bt.com>, AlanZarbury

><aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
>
>>Mike Henry wrote:
>>> In <7lr579F...@mid.individual.net>, "Soze"
>>> <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Mac Breck" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:KL2dnYnDFJMExGXX...@supernews.com...
>>>>> AlanZarbury wrote:
>>>>>> Mac Breck wrote:
>>>>>>> Ignis Fatuus wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:43:02 -0800 (PST), Sab <sab...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Who are currently your 3 favorite season 1-2 (and what little there
>>>>>>>>> was of season 3) Torchwood show characters and please separately
>>>>>>>>> say why, for each fave character named.
>>>>>>>> Owen - Dead
>>>>>>>> Tosh - Dead
>>>>>>>> Ianto - Dead
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Harkness can't be killed off (although he could be ditched in a
>>>>>>>> Black Hole) - so I can only hope that the series is also Dead.
>>>>>>> SPOILER ABOUT CAPT. JACK HARKNESS FROM DOCTOR WHO SERIES 3 OR 4.
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>> Not a spoiler. It was only speculation and even RTD was non-committal
>>>>>> about it in an interview.
>>>>> :-?
>>>>> ...about whether it was true that Capt. Jack Harkness truly *is/was* The
>>>>> Face of Bo, or whether Capt. Jack Harkness/The Face of Bo *died* in that
>>>>> episode, or both? I thought it was pretty much stated in the episode
>>>>> that Harkness was The Face of Bo, i.e. a fact, not speculation.
>>>> RTD has said it was a throwaway line added quite late and he`s not sure in
>>>> his own mind whether it`s to be taken to be truth or not.
>>>
>>> That's preposterous backpeddling on his part, then. They made a big thing
>>> of it in the episode - but I expect RTD would also claim that the Doctor
>>> had a "throwaway reaction" to it (!).
>>>
>>> Luckily, what RTD is sure of in his own mind doesn't matter any more in
>>> that it won't affect the series any more.
>>
>>For SAKE! Some fans! LOL!
>
> LOL! I'm not a fan! ROTFL!

>
>I just recognise that RTD leaving is a good thing.


Now it all atheist can depart the UK for the US!

The Doctor

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:36:42 PM11/9/09
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Another IAWTP stuff.

The Doctor

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:37:46 PM11/9/09
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In article <GOudnbotXoOFMGXX...@bt.com>,

Trollsbury trolls again.

The Doctor

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In article <GOudnbUtXoOmMGXX...@bt.com>,

You would troll Trollsbury.

The Doctor

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In article <GOudnbQtXoMIMGXX...@bt.com>,

Try again: Lorraine Hennessey!

The Doctor

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:40:41 PM11/9/09
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In article <GOudnbctXoPzM2XX...@bt.com>,

Why should he be not?

The Doctor

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:46:04 PM11/9/09
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In article <p_WdnaBqprK2KWXX...@bt.com>,

ZZZ!!!

Mac Breck

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:53:54 PM11/9/09
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Stuff like the following...

"RTD has said it was a throwaway line added quite late and he`s
not sure in his own mind whether it`s to be taken to be truth
or not. "

....makes a show not worth watching, not worth taking seriously at all.
If the captain of the ship (show) is letting stuff into the show that
he's not sure is true or not, it implies a certain laxness and lack of
caring about which way the show goes, like they're just all making up
any old crap as they go along and nothing matters because they can
always change their minds.

The Doctor

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:57:16 PM11/9/09
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In article <SqednRs4moNqJGXX...@supernews.com>,

Please note you are dealing with the irrational.

AlanZarbury

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Nov 9, 2009, 8:12:47 PM11/9/09
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Yep. That's serial fiction for you. But instead of obsessing over one
tiny lighthearted scene (in which, I must add, it was never DEFINITELY
proven Jack was Boe) why not consider whether you enjoyed the other 99%
of the episode?

Mac Breck

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Nov 9, 2009, 8:37:57 PM11/9/09
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1. I'd like to go back and rewatch that episode, if only I knew which
one it was. Anybody remember which episode it's in? Anybody??
2. Part of why I enjoyed the episode was _because_ of that revelation.
It was one of those (to use an Americanism) "I coulda had a V8." ad.
headslap moments (where "V8" refers to the vegetable drink, not an
engine configuration.).
3. It's hard to imagine it being a lighthearted scene when it revolves
around the actual *death* of The Face of Boe.

AlanZarbury

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Mac Breck wrote:
>
> 3. It's hard to imagine it being a lighthearted scene when it revolves
> around the actual *death* of The Face of Boe.
>

It didn't! The death of Boe was in a completely different episode
(Gridlock), and later became crucial to a scene in the episode Utopia
(the YANA explanation). Jack's revelation came at the end of "Last of
the Time Lords", after the danger was over and they were saying their
goodbyes. Therefore a lighthearted scene!


Ian Galbraith

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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:23:25 -0500, Mac Breck wrote:

[snip]

> I'm not fixated by it. When I saw the episode, it didn't strike me as a
> joke, but as a bit of revealed truth that seemed to "fit."

Thats how I interpreted it as well.

--
"This song put me in the middle of the road. Travelling there soon became
a bore so I headed for the ditch. A rougher ride but I saw more
interesting people there."- Neil Young

john smith

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"Ignis Fatuus" <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote in message
news:397hf55ll50luv0ko...@4ax.com...

> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:18:45 +0000, AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo>
> wrote:
>
>>john smith wrote:
>>> "Ignis Fatuus" <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote in message
>>> news:6hggf5pi1clnl8g8f...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:43:02 -0800 (PST), Sab <sab...@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Who are currently your 3 favorite season 1-2 (and what little there
>>>>> was of season 3) Torchwood show characters and please separately
>>>>> say why, for each fave character named.
>>>> Owen - Dead
>>>> Tosh - Dead
>>>> Ianto - Dead
>>>>
>>>> Harkness can't be killed off (although he could be ditched in a Black
>>>> Hole) - so I can only hope that the series is also Dead.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Why would you hope that? If it does return you do realise you don't
>>> *have*
>>> to watch it?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>John, you're talking to a guy who's hated Doctor Who since 1966 and he
>>still watches it! :-)
>
> I've enjoyed the majority of New Who (although the prospect of Smith
> as Baby-Doc fills me with dread).

Put your feet up - have a nice cup of Earl Grey - and see what the
programme's like when it's eventually on, eh, Iggy? Think of your blood
pressure, man!


john smith

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"Ignis Fatuus" <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote in message
news:d67hf5t9fq7sa1hhr...@4ax.com...

> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:43:58 -0000, "john smith"
> <the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ignis Fatuus" <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote in message
>>news:6hggf5pi1clnl8g8f...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:43:02 -0800 (PST), Sab <sab...@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Who are currently your 3 favorite season 1-2 (and what little there
>>>>was of season 3) Torchwood show characters and please separately
>>>>say why, for each fave character named.
>>>
>>> Owen - Dead
>>> Tosh - Dead
>>> Ianto - Dead
>>>
>>> Harkness can't be killed off (although he could be ditched in a Black
>>> Hole) - so I can only hope that the series is also Dead.
>>
>>
>>
>>Why would you hope that? If it does return you do realise you don't
>>*have*
>>to watch it?
>>
> I would need Cast Iron assurances that it will Never again return to
> pollute DW.

But it doesn't and never has - except in your head...


john smith

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"Mac Breck" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Ever heard of the word "amibiguity"? Jesus, some "Doctor Who" fans are so
autistically literal, aren't they? ;-)

john smith

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"Mac Breck" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You don't watch much TV, do you?

Ignis Fatuus

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Nov 9, 2009, 9:14:01 PM11/9/09
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:03:39 +0000, AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo>
wrote:

>Mike Henry wrote:
>>
>>
>> I just recognise that RTD leaving is a good thing.
>
>RTD being the man who brought it back and made it incredibly popular?
>
>

Newman and Lambert made it incredibly popular thank you very much.
Davies merely revived it.

The Doctor

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Nov 9, 2009, 9:27:29 PM11/9/09
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In article <8LKdnSg355xVIGXX...@bt.com>,

Bully troll Zarbiface for you.

john smith

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Nov 9, 2009, 9:40:54 PM11/9/09
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"Ignis Fatuus" <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote in message
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Would you like to be "merely revived" if you collapsed in a town centre of a
heart attack? I know I wouldn't be so churlish as to refuse resuscitation -
always assuming it was on hand...

Yeah! That's you all over, Iggy! Churlish to the core! (I've decided to
make it my "Word of the Week".) Suppose you won't be watching "Waters of
Mars" this Sunday then, eh? ;-)

The Doctor

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Nov 9, 2009, 9:42:48 PM11/9/09
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In article <rOSdnfVd3ekPW2XX...@bt.com>,

Still there is a connection.

The Doctor

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Nov 9, 2009, 9:48:54 PM11/9/09
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In article <TS3Km.148276$R52....@newsfe24.ams2>,

You are source of running up IF's blood pressure.

The Doctor

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Nov 9, 2009, 9:53:36 PM11/9/09
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In article <h0jhf5dr5k07c645t...@4ax.com>,

Lorraine Hennessey NOT RTD who gave the order.

Ignis Fatuus

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I consider it churlish Not to give credit where it's due. Would you
credit Rick Berman or JJ Abrams with the success of Star Trek? Doctor
Who became a National Icon in 1963, not 2005.

As for Waters; you can wait in keen anticipation of my review.

The Doctor

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Nov 9, 2009, 10:07:29 PM11/9/09
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In article <Xo4Km.148288$R52.1...@newsfe24.ams2>,

IF 1 js 0

john smith

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"Ignis Fatuus" <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote in message
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I'd give quite a lot of credit to H.G. Wells, actually...

>
> As for Waters; you can wait in keen anticipation of my review.


Oh don't worry - I am! Just as long as no kids get killed in it, eh?

The Doctor

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Nov 9, 2009, 11:59:17 PM11/9/09
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In article <xy5Km.80713$Dl6....@newsfe16.ams2>,

Mock while you can john smith.

G Daeb

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Nov 10, 2009, 2:40:05 AM11/10/09
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On Nov 9, 5:32 pm, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article
> <d39e1fe6-f346-42c5-857a-789a43928...@x25g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,

>
>  Sab <sabt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Who are currently your 3 favorite season 1-2 (and what little there
> > was of season 3) Torchwood show characters and please separately
> > say why, for each fave character named.

People keep falling for this one don't they?

THEY ALL ASSUME IT HAS TO BE PART OF THE TEAM.

Well, actually, I liked the gormless Welsh guy who was
slicing up alien for kebab meat. And the corrupt Doctor
played by Anthony Patrick Head. And Tosh. But not in
that order. I like Gwen too. And the little girl who went to
live with the fairies.

> no
>
> --
> Stargate Universe SGU:  It puts the "U" in "SUCKS"!
> It's the show 'Defiling Gravity' would be if DG had more regulars,
> fewer abortions, worse writers, and no budget for lighting.
> Remember, you can't spell "disgust" without SGU!

G DAEB
COPYRIGHT (C) 2009 SIPSTON
--

G Daeb

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Nov 10, 2009, 3:01:10 AM11/10/09
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On Nov 9, 7:43 pm, "john smith" <the_johnsm...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> "Ignis Fatuus" <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote in message
>
> news:6hggf5pi1clnl8g8f...@4ax.com...
>
> > On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:43:02 -0800 (PST), Sab <sabt...@hotmail.com>

> > wrote:
>
> >>Who are currently your 3 favorite season 1-2 (and what little there
> >>was of season 3) Torchwood show characters and please separately
> >>say why, for each fave character named.
>
> > Owen - Dead
> > Tosh - Dead
> > Ianto - Dead
>
> > Harkness can't be killed off (although he could be ditched in a Black
> > Hole) - so I can only hope that the series is also Dead.
>
> Why would you hope that?  If it does return you do realise you don't *have*
> to watch it?

What? And get edged out of the rash of themed in-jokes
on UMTM? HAHAHAHAHAHA ROTFLMAO!

Please tell us where you cross-posted from, as not all
of us choose to read that group...

...no, seriously mate, I nearly got sucked into a thread
on why Effie shouldn't really keep on seeing that rough
necked boy with the tattoos in Skins earlier this year
as I'd turned my UMTM-in-joke-RADAR to standby.

AlanZarbury

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Nov 10, 2009, 6:37:31 AM11/10/09
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Yeah, that'd be why I said "brought it back and made it incredibly
popular".

There was nothing "mere" about it by the way. Under lesser hands the
revival could easily have flopped. But God forbid "fans" like you should
give credit where credit's due. I guess bitching about it gives you a
smug sense of deluded superiority that you wouldn't get from just
enjoying it.

AlanZarbury

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Nov 10, 2009, 6:46:25 AM11/10/09
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Of course he will, with a scowl on his face worthy of Victor Meldrew. :-)

The Face of Po

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Nov 10, 2009, 8:26:59 AM11/10/09
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I was hanging out with the cool kids in rec.arts.drwho when
Mac Breck got out a spraycan and scrawled the following:

> AlanZarbury wrote:
>> Mac Breck wrote:
>>> AlanZarbury wrote:
>>>> Mac Breck wrote:
>>>>> Soze wrote:
[...]

Many shows have a single overseeing controller throughout their entire
run, but this isn't true of Doctor Who. It has usually (or even
always?) been the case that the current "captain" intends the show to
continue after they leave. They don't have a complete plan for
the series' future, and if some detail doesn't affect whatever
character arcs and season-lengthed plots they *have* planned, they can
leave it open for their successors (or viewer interpretation).

--
Happiness will prevail

Mac Breck

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Nov 10, 2009, 12:09:55 PM11/10/09
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Thanks for the episode titles. :-) I'll take another look.

The Doctor

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Nov 10, 2009, 5:30:05 PM11/10/09
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In article <IKidncPjLZr3A2TX...@supernews.com>,

Mac Breck <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>AlanZarbury wrote:
>> Mac Breck wrote:
>>>
>>> 3. It's hard to imagine it being a lighthearted scene when it
>>> revolves around the actual *death* of The Face of Boe.
>>>
>>
>> It didn't! The death of Boe was in a completely different episode
>> (Gridlock), and later became crucial to a scene in the episode Utopia
>> (the YANA explanation). Jack's revelation came at the end of "Last of
>> the Time Lords", after the danger was over and they were saying their
>> goodbyes. Therefore a lighthearted scene!
>
>Thanks for the episode titles. :-) I'll take another look.
>

Never trust a Zarbitroll.

"The Great One"

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"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message news:hdcphd$ggj$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...

> In article <IKidncPjLZr3A2TX...@supernews.com>,
> Mac Breck <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >AlanZarbury wrote:
> >> Mac Breck wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 3. It's hard to imagine it being a lighthearted scene when it
> >>> revolves around the actual *death* of The Face of Boe.
> >>>
> >>
> >> It didn't! The death of Boe was in a completely different episode
> >> (Gridlock), and later became crucial to a scene in the episode Utopia
> >> (the YANA explanation). Jack's revelation came at the end of "Last of
> >> the Time Lords", after the danger was over and they were saying their
> >> goodbyes. Therefore a lighthearted scene!
> >
> >Thanks for the episode titles. :-) I'll take another look.
> >
>
> Never trust a Zarbitroll.
> --
> Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doc...@nl2k.ab.ca

That's right as he "burns with lust" for his own kind !!
--
John C.

Mac Breck

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Nov 11, 2009, 7:33:01 AM11/11/09
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The Doctor wrote:
> In article <IKidncPjLZr3A2TX...@supernews.com>,
> Mac Breck <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> AlanZarbury wrote:
>>> Mac Breck wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 3. It's hard to imagine it being a lighthearted scene when it
>>>> revolves around the actual *death* of The Face of Boe.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It didn't! The death of Boe was in a completely different episode
>>> (Gridlock),

Season 3 Episode 3

>>> and later became crucial to a scene in the episode
>>> Utopia

Season 3 Episode 11

>>> (the YANA explanation). Jack's revelation came at the end of
>>> "Last of the Time Lords",

Season 3 Episode 13

>>> after the danger was over and they were
>>> saying their goodbyes. Therefore a lighthearted scene!
>>
>> Thanks for the episode titles. :-) I'll take another look.
>>
>
> Never trust a Zarbitroll.

Well, he's the only one who came back with any episode titles. Checked
'em online and they look like the ones. Gave me a place to look without
rewatching all of Seasons 3 & 4. Can't complain.

AlanZarbury

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Nov 11, 2009, 8:39:19 AM11/11/09
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Mac Breck wrote:
> The Doctor wrote:
>> In article <IKidncPjLZr3A2TX...@supernews.com>,
>> Mac Breck <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> AlanZarbury wrote:
>>>> Mac Breck wrote:
>>>>> 3. It's hard to imagine it being a lighthearted scene when it
>>>>> revolves around the actual *death* of The Face of Boe.
>>>>>
>>>> It didn't! The death of Boe was in a completely different episode
>>>> (Gridlock),
>
> Season 3 Episode 3
>
>>>> and later became crucial to a scene in the episode
>>>> Utopia
>
> Season 3 Episode 11
>
>>>> (the YANA explanation). Jack's revelation came at the end of
>>>> "Last of the Time Lords",
>
> Season 3 Episode 13
>
>>>> after the danger was over and they were
>>>> saying their goodbyes. Therefore a lighthearted scene!
>>> Thanks for the episode titles. :-) I'll take another look.
>>>
>> Never trust a Zarbitroll.
>
> Well, he's the only one who came back with any episode titles. Checked
> 'em online and they look like the ones. Gave me a place to look without
> rewatching all of Seasons 3 & 4. Can't complain.
>

You're welcome.

"The Doctor" is the troll Mac. His technique is to call everyone else a
troll in order to blacken their characters when he cross-posts to groups
who aren't aware of his sly behaviour.

He'll call me a troll again for that, but I'm sure others will back me
up on the truth.


The Doctor

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In article <SeGdnU5H-L4GxWfX...@centurytel.net>,
\"The Great One\" <hones...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message =

>news:hdcphd$ggj$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>> In article <IKidncPjLZr3A2TX...@supernews.com>,
>> Mac Breck <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >AlanZarbury wrote:
>> >> Mac Breck wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> 3. It's hard to imagine it being a lighthearted scene when it
>> >>> revolves around the actual *death* of The Face of Boe.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> It didn't! The death of Boe was in a completely different episode
>> >> (Gridlock), and later became crucial to a scene in the episode =
>Utopia
>> >> (the YANA explanation). Jack's revelation came at the end of "Last =
>of
>> >> the Time Lords", after the danger was over and they were saying =

>their
>> >> goodbyes. Therefore a lighthearted scene!
>> >
>> >Thanks for the episode titles. :-) I'll take another look.
>> >
>>=20
>> Never trust a Zarbitroll.
>> --=20
>> Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nl2k.ab.ca Ici =

>doc...@nl2k.ab.ca
>
>That's right as he "burns with lust" for his own kind !!
>--
>John C.

Got you.


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Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doc...@nl2k.ab.ca

The Doctor

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Nov 11, 2009, 8:43:13 AM11/11/09
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In article <bqadnfVnNeDcI2fX...@bt.com>,

Lie on Alan Sailsbury the troublemaker troll.

Hulahoop

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Nov 11, 2009, 8:50:31 AM11/11/09
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On Nov 12, 12:39 am, AlanZarbury <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
> Mac Breck wrote:
> > The Doctor wrote:
> >> In article <IKidncPjLZr3A2TXnZ2dnUVZ_toAA...@supernews.com>,
> up on the truth.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

And as if by magic.....

john smith

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"The Face of Po" <gkenn...@potatojunkie.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
news:hdbpku$i10$1...@spuduser.motzarella.org...


It's called leaving your options open... or maybe covering your arse... I
dunno...

> Happiness will prevail


john smith

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"Mac Breck" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Vsmdna7opvi0MmfX...@supernews.com...

> The Doctor wrote:
>> In article <IKidncPjLZr3A2TX...@supernews.com>,
>> Mac Breck <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> AlanZarbury wrote:
>>>> Mac Breck wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. It's hard to imagine it being a lighthearted scene when it
>>>>> revolves around the actual *death* of The Face of Boe.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It didn't! The death of Boe was in a completely different episode
>>>> (Gridlock),
>
> Season 3 Episode 3
>
>>>> and later became crucial to a scene in the episode
>>>> Utopia
>
> Season 3 Episode 11
>
>>>> (the YANA explanation). Jack's revelation came at the end of
>>>> "Last of the Time Lords",
>
> Season 3 Episode 13
>
>>>> after the danger was over and they were
>>>> saying their goodbyes. Therefore a lighthearted scene!
>>>
>>> Thanks for the episode titles. :-) I'll take another look.
>>>
>>
>> Never trust a Zarbitroll.
>
> Well, he's the only one who came back with any episode titles. Checked
> 'em online and they look like the ones. Gave me a place to look without
> rewatching all of Seasons 3 & 4. Can't complain.


I usually use this website to double-check such things:
http://www.shannonsullivan.com/drwho/

It's pretty clear and comprehensive. (And no - I'm not her ex-boyfriend or
anything!)

"The Great One"

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"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message news:hdef1h$f7e$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...

A "criminal" troll !!
--
John C.

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