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AlanSailsbury

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Oct 31, 2009, 2:09:37 PM10/31/09
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I've just finished watching the first DVD in the "Dalek War" set.
Frontier in Space is a cracking story. I hadn't seen it since it's
first airing. Forgotten it featured such a variety of characters, -
Draconians, Ogrons, The Master, and The Daleks!

The team of Pertwee, Manning, and Delgado work well together on
screen. Delgado proving he was easily the definitive Master. Simm,
Roberts, and Ainley pale beside him.

Very nice long tribute to Delgado on the bonus disc, with clips of
other shows he appeared in.

This was such a great period for Doctor Who. Pertwee is fantastic,
playing the role totally straight and with the authority that
Troughton lacked.

Soze

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Oct 31, 2009, 5:52:18 PM10/31/09
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"AlanSailsbury" <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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I agree with almost everything you say there...it`s a fun story and the
Delgado documentary is superb. However Troughton is my second favourite
Doctor after Tom so I`ll have to agree to disagree with you there.


The Doctor

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Oct 31, 2009, 6:12:14 PM10/31/09
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In article <dbd91a6f-ad6b-4b39...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>,

Oi! To each there own RE: Troughton / Pertwee.
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The Doctor

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Oct 31, 2009, 6:13:12 PM10/31/09
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In article <7l3psgF...@mid.individual.net>,

when it comes to Doctors to each their own.

Andrew

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Oct 31, 2009, 9:14:57 PM10/31/09
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I'm looking forward to getting this when the price drops ; )

I remember this period with fondness, though I felt the Master was
over-used. That said, Delgado certainly was the definitive Master
(though if Jacobi had continued in the role he may have challenged him).

I can't agree with you on Troughton, though. For me his portrayal of
the Doctor gave the character a depth and range and a vulnerability
that has never since been touched.

john smith

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Oct 31, 2009, 9:28:38 PM10/31/09
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"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:hcicpo$fd4$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...

> In article <7l3psgF...@mid.individual.net>,
> Soze <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>"AlanSailsbury" <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:dbd91a6f-ad6b-4b39...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...
>>> I've just finished watching the first DVD in the "Dalek War" set.
>>> Frontier in Space is a cracking story. I hadn't seen it since it's
>>> first airing. Forgotten it featured such a variety of characters, -
>>> Draconians, Ogrons, The Master, and The Daleks!
>>>
>>> The team of Pertwee, Manning, and Delgado work well together on
>>> screen. Delgado proving he was easily the definitive Master. Simm,
>>> Roberts, and Ainley pale beside him.
>>>
>>> Very nice long tribute to Delgado on the bonus disc, with clips of
>>> other shows he appeared in.
>>>
>>> This was such a great period for Doctor Who. Pertwee is fantastic,
>>> playing the role totally straight and with the authority that
>>> Troughton lacked.
>>
>>I agree with almost everything you say there...it`s a fun story and the
>>Delgado documentary is superb. However Troughton is my second favourite
>>Doctor after Tom so I`ll have to agree to disagree with you there.
>>
>>
>
> when it comes to Doctors to each their own.

Statement. Of the obvious. Noted.

The Doctor

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Oct 31, 2009, 9:30:25 PM10/31/09
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In article <hv5Hm.6355$op2...@newsfe28.ams2>,

john smith <the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>news:hcicpo$fd4$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>> In article <7l3psgF...@mid.individual.net>,
>> Soze <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>"AlanSailsbury" <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>news:dbd91a6f-ad6b-4b39...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...
>>>> I've just finished watching the first DVD in the "Dalek War" set.
>>>> Frontier in Space is a cracking story. I hadn't seen it since it's
>>>> first airing. Forgotten it featured such a variety of characters, -
>>>> Draconians, Ogrons, The Master, and The Daleks!
>>>>
>>>> The team of Pertwee, Manning, and Delgado work well together on
>>>> screen. Delgado proving he was easily the definitive Master. Simm,
>>>> Roberts, and Ainley pale beside him.
>>>>
>>>> Very nice long tribute to Delgado on the bonus disc, with clips of
>>>> other shows he appeared in.
>>>>
>>>> This was such a great period for Doctor Who. Pertwee is fantastic,
>>>> playing the role totally straight and with the authority that
>>>> Troughton lacked.
>>>
>>>I agree with almost everything you say there...it`s a fun story and the
>>>Delgado documentary is superb. However Troughton is my second favourite
>>>Doctor after Tom so I`ll have to agree to disagree with you there.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> when it comes to Doctors to each their own.
>
>
>
>Statement. Of the obvious. Noted.
>
>

Thank you john Sybil smith.

john smith

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Oct 31, 2009, 9:39:54 PM10/31/09
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"Andrew" <thec...@macunlimited.net> wrote in message
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Just like your God, eh? ;-)


john smith

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Oct 31, 2009, 9:41:43 PM10/31/09
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"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
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Don't thank me - and don't keep stating the obvious. The point is: it's
obvious. Get it yet?


>And NOW you are PLONKED!<

The Laughing Dalek

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Nov 1, 2009, 9:04:15 AM11/1/09
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Yes he was really playing it "straight" when he was dressing up in
women's cloths or totally serious when he was singing in the shower or
coming up with that ridiculous Venusian Akido or whatever the fuck it
was?

Pertwee was IMHO without doubt one of the worst Doctors, give me
Troughton, Tom Baker or even Colin Baker any time.

The Doctor

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Nov 1, 2009, 9:05:41 AM11/1/09
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In article <sg0re552maho5g5vf...@4ax.com>,

Pertwee offered humour and a sense of justice at the same time.

As I said to each their own.

Hulahoop

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Nov 1, 2009, 9:31:47 AM11/1/09
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> Troughton, Tom Baker or even Colin Baker any time.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You can pick faults with any of the Doctors if you want to:
* Hartnell - irascible and unlikable when the mood suited
* Troughton - Silly at times
* Pertwee - overbearing and condescending too often
* Baker T - to me the less said about Season 17 the better
* Davison - a good actor (and my favourite Doctor) but didn't he
moan a lot
* Baker C - the outfit, the outfit, the outfit
* McCoy - That bloody jumper (and IMHO his lacking in authority)
* McGann - half human - what a pile of wank
* Eccleston - too good for the programme now is he?
* Tennant - "I'm so sorry/What!"
* Smith - too young

However, on the flip side:
* Hartnell - solid, authortarian, believable
* Troughton - Whimsically clever and funny
* Pertwee - steeped in authority, had fun and tried to make sure
those watching it did as well
* Baker T - Olympian Detatchment - the perfect role model for those
looking to follow this style
* Davison - not Tom Baker being silly, easy to empathise with
* Baker C - good in Big Finish :-)
* McCoy - tumbleweed rushes past, a bell tolls in the distance
* McGann - half human - what an innovation, loved the bit with the
poliecman's gun
* Eccleston - A brilliant gurner
* Tennant - proof that amphetamines are not all bad
* Smith - acts like an old man in a young mans body brilliantly,
even better than Doc no 5

One person's nectar is another person's poison I suppose

Regards

Ged

The Doctor

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Nov 1, 2009, 10:42:47 AM11/1/09
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In article <64301d5d-b5bc-4da1...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com>,
Hulahoop <sween...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Thank you for echoing to each their own sentiment I have.

AlanSailsbury

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Nov 1, 2009, 11:09:33 AM11/1/09
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On Nov 1, 1:14 am, Andrew <thecr...@macunlimited.net> wrote:

> On 2009-10-31 18:09:37 +0000, AlanSailsbury <alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> said:
>
> > I've just finished watching the first DVD in the "Dalek War" set.
> > Frontier in Space is a cracking story. I hadn't seen it since it's
> > first airing. Forgotten it featured such a variety of characters, -
> > Draconians, Ogrons, The Master, and The Daleks!
>
> > The team of Pertwee, Manning, and Delgado work well together on
> > screen. Delgado proving he was easily the definitive Master. Simm,
> > Roberts, and Ainley pale beside him.
>
> > Very nice long tribute to Delgado on the bonus disc, with clips of
> > other shows he appeared in.
>
> > This was such a great period for Doctor Who. Pertwee is fantastic,
> > playing the role totally straight and with the authority that
> > Troughton lacked.
>
> I'm looking forward to getting this when the price drops ; )
>
> I remember this period with fondness, though I felt the Master was
> over-used. That said, Delgado certainly was the definitive Master
> (though if Jacobi had continued in the role he may have challenged him).

According to the documentary, Delgado felt he was over-used too. He
wasn't being offered other roles because producers considered him a
regular on Dr Who.

>
> I can't agree with you on Troughton, though. For me his portrayal of
> the Doctor gave the character a depth and range and a vulnerability
> that has never since been touched.

I think you have me wrong. I didn't say I didn't like Troughton. I
simply said Pertwee's Doctor had an authority that Troughton's
lacked.

AlanSailsbury

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Nov 1, 2009, 11:10:20 AM11/1/09
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On Nov 1, 2:04 pm, The Laughing Dalek <fuck...@microsoft.com> wrote:

>
> Yes he was really playing it "straight" when he was dressing up in
> women's cloths or totally serious when he was singing in the shower or
> coming up with that ridiculous Venusian Akido or whatever the fuck it
> was?
>

None of which happened in Frontier In Space, the topic of this
discussion!

"The Great One"

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Nov 1, 2009, 1:55:12 PM11/1/09
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"Hulahoop" <sween...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:64301d5d-b5bc-4da1...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com...

One person's Jizz is my "icing on the cake", I suppose.

Regards,

Ged---The Laughing Dicklick
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Whatever blows your dress up, Geddy fer dick !!
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John C.

Ignis Fatuus

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Nov 1, 2009, 1:25:12 PM11/1/09
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Did you actually watch it? He Hi-Karate'd his way through half the
invading miners.

BTW it was You that first extended the discussion to general comments
on the Pertwee period.

AlanSailsbury

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Nov 1, 2009, 4:06:49 PM11/1/09
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On Nov 1, 6:25 pm, Ignis Fatuus <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:10:20 -0800 (PST), AlanSailsbury
>
> <alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >On Nov 1, 2:04 pm, The Laughing Dalek <fuck...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >> Yes he was really playing it "straight" when he was dressing up in
> >> women's cloths or totally serious when he was singing in the shower or
> >> coming up with that ridiculous Venusian Akido or whatever the fuck it
> >> was?
>
> >None of which happened in Frontier In Space, the topic of this
> >discussion!
>
> Did you actually watch it? He Hi-Karate'd his way through half the
> invading miners.

Not in drag he didn't. Have YOU watched it?

>
> BTW it was You that first extended the discussion to general comments
> on the Pertwee period.

No I didn't. Stop trying to stir it because of old grudges.

The Doctor

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Nov 1, 2009, 4:29:00 PM11/1/09
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In article <3f29c658-1034-4d3c...@g23g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
AlanSailsbury <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Andrew wrote:
>>
>> I can't agree with you on Troughton, though. For me his portrayal of
>> the Doctor gave the character a depth and range and a vulnerability
>> that has never since been touched.
>
>I think you have me wrong. I didn't say I didn't like Troughton. I
>simply said Pertwee's Doctor had an authority that Troughton's
>lacked.
>

That is the way Troughton wanted to play the role.
REmember the Dandy anf the Clown Comment from the 3 Doctors?

The Doctor

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Nov 1, 2009, 4:30:06 PM11/1/09
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In article <07ac8503-62d0-4585...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
AlanSailsbury <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Didn't one of the Coronation Street Regs
turn up in Frontier in Space?

AlanSailsbury

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Nov 1, 2009, 4:34:40 PM11/1/09
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On Nov 1, 4:29 pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> In article <3f29c658-1034-4d3c-92ce-2f2058115...@g23g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,

>
> AlanSailsbury  <alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >Andrew wrote:
>
> >> I can't agree with you on Troughton, though. For me his portrayal of
> >> the Doctor gave the character a depth and range and a vulnerability
> >> that has never since been touched.
>
> >I think you have me wrong. I didn't say I didn't like Troughton. I
> >simply said Pertwee's Doctor had an authority that Troughton's
> >lacked.
>
> That is the way Troughton wanted to play the role.
> REmember the Dandy anf the Clown Comment from the 3 Doctors?
> --

FFS Yads, I *KNOW* that's how he chose to play the role. I never
thought otherwise. Fuck off with your pointless comments.

The Doctor

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Nov 1, 2009, 4:38:23 PM11/1/09
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In article <7kjre5ht1o9p5nge0...@4ax.com>,

10/10 IF.

AlanSailsbury

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On Nov 1, 4:30 pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> In article <07ac8503-62d0-4585-a6c4-e6ec5883b...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,

>
> AlanSailsbury  <alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >On Nov 1, 2:04=A0pm, The Laughing Dalek <fuck...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >> Yes he was really playing it "straight" when he was dressing up in
> >> women's cloths or totally serious when he was singing in the shower or
> >> coming up with that ridiculous Venusian Akido or whatever the fuck it
> >> was?
>
> >None of which happened in Frontier In Space, the topic of this
> >discussion!
>
> Didn't one of the Coronation Street Regs
> turn up in Frontier in Space?
> --

Didn't recognise anyone from Corrie of that era.


The Doctor

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Nov 1, 2009, 4:54:52 PM11/1/09
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In article <45762481-f6ad-450d...@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
AlanSailsbury <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>On Nov 1, 6:25=A0pm, Ignis Fatuus <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:10:20 -0800 (PST), AlanSailsbury
>>
>> <alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >On Nov 1, 2:04=A0pm, The Laughing Dalek <fuck...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> Yes he was really playing it "straight" when he was dressing up in
>> >> women's cloths or totally serious when he was singing in the shower or
>> >> coming up with that ridiculous Venusian Akido or whatever the fuck it
>> >> was?
>>
>> >None of which happened in Frontier In Space, the topic of this
>> >discussion!
>>
>> Did you actually watch it? He Hi-Karate'd his way through half the
>> invading miners.
>
>Not in drag he didn't. Have YOU watched it?
>
>>
>> BTW it was You that first extended the discussion to general comments
>> on the Pertwee period.
>
>No I didn't. Stop trying to stir it because of old grudges.
>

IF 3 AS 0


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Nov 1, 2009, 4:57:59 PM11/1/09
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In article <9e3817b5-bef7-4c84...@15g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>,
AlanSailsbury <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>On Nov 1, 4:29=A0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> In article <3f29c658-1034-4d3c-92ce-2f2058115...@g23g2000yqh.googlegroups=
>.com>,

>>
>> AlanSailsbury =A0<alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >Andrew wrote:
>>
>> >> I can't agree with you on Troughton, though. For me his portrayal of
>> >> the Doctor gave the character a depth and range and a vulnerability
>> >> that has never since been touched.
>>
>> >I think you have me wrong. I didn't say I didn't like Troughton. I
>> >simply said Pertwee's Doctor had an authority that Troughton's
>> >lacked.
>>
>> That is the way Troughton wanted to play the role.
>> REmember the Dandy anf the Clown Comment from the 3 Doctors?
>> --
>
>Yads, I *KNOW* that's how he chose to play the role. I never
>thought otherwise.
>

TRoll on anti-social troll AS.


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Nov 1, 2009, 5:02:06 PM11/1/09
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In article <bfa53889-e1c0-46b5...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
AlanSailsbury <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>On Nov 1, 4:30=A0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> In article <07ac8503-62d0-4585-a6c4-e6ec5883b...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups=
>.com>,
>>
>> AlanSailsbury =A0<alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>> >On Nov 1, 2:04=3DA0pm, The Laughing Dalek <fuck...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> Yes he was really playing it "straight" when he was dressing up in
>> >> women's cloths or totally serious when he was singing in the shower or
>> >> coming up with that ridiculous Venusian Akido or whatever the fuck it
>> >> was?
>>
>> >None of which happened in Frontier In Space, the topic of this
>> >discussion!
>>
>> Didn't one of the Coronation Street Regs
>> turn up in Frontier in Space?
>> --
>
>Didn't recognise anyone from Corrie of that era.
>
>

Shows you are detached from the REal World.


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AlanSailsbury

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Nov 1, 2009, 7:02:17 PM11/1/09
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On Nov 1, 10:02 pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> In article <bfa53889-e1c0-46b5-8476-618b36ae7...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,

>
>
>
> AlanSailsbury  <alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >On Nov 1, 4:30=A0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> >> In article <07ac8503-62d0-4585-a6c4-e6ec5883b...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups=
> >.com>,
>
> >> AlanSailsbury =A0<alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >On Nov 1, 2:04=3DA0pm, The Laughing Dalek <fuck...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> Yes he was really playing it "straight" when he was dressing up in
> >> >> women's cloths or totally serious when he was singing in the shower or
> >> >> coming up with that ridiculous Venusian Akido or whatever the fuck it
> >> >> was?
>
> >> >None of which happened in Frontier In Space, the topic of this
> >> >discussion!
>
> >> Didn't one of the Coronation Street Regs
> >> turn up in Frontier in Space?
> >> --
>
> >Didn't recognise anyone from Corrie of that era.
>
> Shows you are detached from the REal World.
> --

Soaps aren't the real world Yads. Not even close. But I notice that
even when I replied politely to you, you still had to insult me.
Fucking TROLL.

AlanSailsbury

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Nov 1, 2009, 7:03:50 PM11/1/09
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On Nov 1, 9:57 pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> In article <9e3817b5-bef7-4c84-9ac9-6f184ed30...@15g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>,

>
>
>
> AlanSailsbury  <alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >On Nov 1, 4:29=A0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> >> In article <3f29c658-1034-4d3c-92ce-2f2058115...@g23g2000yqh.googlegroups=
> >.com>,
>
> >> AlanSailsbury =A0<alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >Andrew wrote:
>
> >> >> I can't agree with you on Troughton, though. For me his portrayal of
> >> >> the Doctor gave the character a depth and range and a vulnerability
> >> >> that has never since been touched.
>
> >> >I think you have me wrong. I didn't say I didn't like Troughton. I
> >> >simply said Pertwee's Doctor had an authority that Troughton's
> >> >lacked.
>
> >> That is the way Troughton wanted to play the role.
> >> REmember the Dandy anf the Clown Comment from the 3 Doctors?
> >> --
>
> >Yads, I *KNOW* that's how he chose to play the role. I never
> >thought otherwise.
>
> TRoll on anti-social troll AS.
> --

WHAT? I was replying on topic to your stupid comment! I think your
insult makes YOU the troll Yads. No surprise there!

The Doctor

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Nov 1, 2009, 7:36:07 PM11/1/09
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In article <0b02e9b4-4acd-456c...@37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
AlanSailsbury <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>On Nov 1, 10:02=A0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> In article <bfa53889-e1c0-46b5-8476-618b36ae7...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups=

>.com>,
>>
>>
>>
>> AlanSailsbury =A0<alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >On Nov 1, 4:30=3DA0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> >> In article <07ac8503-62d0-4585-a6c4-e6ec5883b...@n35g2000yqm.googlegro=
>ups=3D
>> >.com>,
>>
>> >> AlanSailsbury =3DA0<alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> >On Nov 1, 2:04=3D3DA0pm, The Laughing Dalek <fuck...@microsoft.com> w=

>rote:
>>
>> >> >> Yes he was really playing it "straight" when he was dressing up in
>> >> >> women's cloths or totally serious when he was singing in the shower=
> or
>> >> >> coming up with that ridiculous Venusian Akido or whatever the fuck =

>it
>> >> >> was?
>>
>> >> >None of which happened in Frontier In Space, the topic of this
>> >> >discussion!
>>
>> >> Didn't one of the Coronation Street Regs
>> >> turn up in Frontier in Space?
>> >> --
>>
>> >Didn't recognise anyone from Corrie of that era.
>>
>> Shows you are detached from the REal World.
>> --
>
>Soaps aren't the real world Yads. Not even close. But I notice that
>even when I replied politely to you, you still had to insult me.

Thus trolls Troll Sailsbury the Nth Degree troll.

The Doctor

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Nov 1, 2009, 7:36:59 PM11/1/09
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In article <d1269e2f-cb67-4245...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
AlanSailsbury <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>On Nov 1, 9:57=A0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> In article <9e3817b5-bef7-4c84-9ac9-6f184ed30...@15g2000yqy.googlegroups.=

>com>,
>>
>>
>>
>> AlanSailsbury =A0<alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >On Nov 1, 4:29=3DA0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> >> In article <3f29c658-1034-4d3c-92ce-2f2058115...@g23g2000yqh.googlegro=
>ups=3D
>> >.com>,

>>
>> >> AlanSailsbury =3DA0<alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> >Andrew wrote:
>>
>> >> >> I can't agree with you on Troughton, though. For me his portrayal o=

>f
>> >> >> the Doctor gave the character a depth and range and a vulnerability
>> >> >> that has never since been touched.
>>
>> >> >I think you have me wrong. I didn't say I didn't like Troughton. I
>> >> >simply said Pertwee's Doctor had an authority that Troughton's
>> >> >lacked.
>>
>> >> That is the way Troughton wanted to play the role.
>> >> REmember the Dandy anf the Clown Comment from the 3 Doctors?
>> >> --
>>
>> >Yads, I *KNOW* that's how he chose to play the role. I never
>> >thought otherwise.
>>
>> TRoll on anti-social troll AS.
>> --
>
>WHAT? I was replying on topic to your stupid comment! I think your
>insult makes YOU the troll Yads. No surprise there!
>

Said trollsbury the impolite.

Ignis Fatuus

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Grudges?

Only if you consider different points of view to be grudges...

I don't dislike you personally because we have differing opinions
about DW. I don't even take it personally when you heap vitriolic
abuse on me for expressing opinions that disagree with yours.

The fact remains that you concluded your review with the words

QUOTE


This was such a great period for Doctor Who. Pertwee is fantastic,
playing the role totally straight and with the authority that
Troughton lacked.

UNQUOTE

This was an indisputable generalisation which left an opening for
general comments about Pertwee's Who.

AlanSailsbury

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On Nov 1, 8:51 pm, Ignis Fatuus <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 13:06:49 -0800 (PST), AlanSailsbury
>
>
>

Are you Autistic?

Ignis Fatuus

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Only after Sunday Lunch - and I try to stay away from here whenever I
feel the urge.

Ignis Fatuus

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Just realised that I'm confusing Frontier with Colony, which is the
one I watched a few weeks ago. Frontier's the one that happens on a
space ship where the Doctor get's stuck in the brig for five and a
half episodes before saving the Universe. Inordinately silly and
excessively padded in my view. Doesn't he start playing tunes on the
sonic screwdriver to while away the time?

Anyhow, Colony's the one where he rescues the settlers from marauding
miners by persuading the natives to self-destruct. Equally silly but
less dull.

The Doctor

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In article <e8ese552ncbdh01q4...@4ax.com>,

That would be Trollsbury.

The Doctor

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In article <21c75804-67bb-4f79...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
AlanSailsbury <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>On Nov 1, 8:51=A0pm, Ignis Fatuus <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 13:06:49 -0800 (PST), AlanSailsbury
>>
>>
>>
>> <alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >On Nov 1, 6:25=A0pm, Ignis Fatuus <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:10:20 -0800 (PST), AlanSailsbury
>>
>> >> <alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> >On Nov 1, 2:04=A0pm, The Laughing Dalek <fuck...@microsoft.com> wrote=

>:
>>
>> >> >> Yes he was really playing it "straight" when he was dressing up in
>> >> >> women's cloths or totally serious when he was singing in the shower=
> or
>> >> >> coming up with that ridiculous Venusian Akido or whatever the fuck =

>it
>> >> >> was?
>>
>> >> >None of which happened in Frontier In Space, the topic of this
>> >> >discussion!
>>
>> >> Did you actually watch it? He Hi-Karate'd his way through half the
>> >> invading miners.
>>
>> >Not in drag he didn't. Have YOU watched it?
>>
>> >> BTW it was You that first extended the discussion to general comments
>> >> on the Pertwee period.
>>
>> >No I didn't. Stop trying to stir it because of old grudges.
>>
>> Grudges?
>>
>> Only if you consider different points of view to be grudges...
>>
>> I don't dislike you personally because we have differing opinions
>> about DW. I don't even take it personally when you heap vitriolic
>> abuse on me for expressing opinions that disagree with yours.
>>
>> The fact remains that you concluded your review with the words
>>
>> QUOTE
>> This was such a great period for Doctor Who. Pertwee is fantastic,
>> playing the role totally straight and with the authority that
>> Troughton lacked.
>> UNQUOTE
>>
>> This was an indisputable generalisation which left an opening for
>> general comments about Pertwee's Who.
>
>Are you Autistic?
>

Said autistic troll Sainsbury.

The Doctor

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In article <cbgse5hhkotbb0i0e...@4ax.com>,

You means when Sailsbury trolls along.

The Doctor

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In article <gf5te5p6ha8s1v188...@4ax.com>,

I know the feeling . X in SPace . Seeds of X .

AlanSailsbury

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On Nov 2, 3:17 pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> In article <21c75804-67bb-4f79-8e72-d62d4c31e...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,

Oh dear, looks like I gave you a new word to parrot into an insult.
Nasty Yads. You're ***NO*** Christian. Jesus is SO gonna kick yo ass.

The Face of Po

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I was hanging out with the cool kids in rec.arts.drwho when
AlanSailsbury got out a spraycan and scrawled the following:
> Didn't recognise anyone from Corrie of that era.

He's probably getting confused with Colony in Space - one of the
colonists is played by the actress who also played Gail Platt.

--
Happiness will prevail

Mr.Smartypants

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On Nov 1, 11:55 am, "\"The Great One\"" <honestj...@centurytel.net>
wrote:
> "Hulahoop" <sweeney...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:64301d5d-b5bc-4da1...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com...

So you like jizz on your cake? No surprise there.

> Regards,
>
> Ged---The Laughing Dicklick
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Whatever blows your dress up, Geddy fer dick !!
> --

> John C.- Hide quoted text -

The Doctor

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In article <5ecd5dcf-bf09-4490...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
AlanSailsbury <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>On Nov 2, 3:17=A0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> In article <21c75804-67bb-4f79-8e72-d62d4c31e...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups=
>.com>,
>>
>>
>>
>> AlanSailsbury =A0<alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>> >On Nov 1, 8:51=3DA0pm, Ignis Fatuus <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 13:06:49 -0800 (PST), AlanSailsbury
>>
>> >> <alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> >On Nov 1, 6:25=3DA0pm, Ignis Fatuus <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote:
>> >> >> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:10:20 -0800 (PST), AlanSailsbury
>>
>> >> >> <alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> >> >On Nov 1, 2:04=3DA0pm, The Laughing Dalek <fuck...@microsoft.com> =
>wrote=3D
>> >:
>>
>> >> >> >> Yes he was really playing it "straight" when he was dressing up =
>in
>> >> >> >> women's cloths or totally serious when he was singing in the sho=
>wer=3D
>> > or
>> >> >> >> coming up with that ridiculous Venusian Akido or whatever the fu=
>ck =3D

>> >it
>> >> >> >> was?
>>
>> >> >> >None of which happened in Frontier In Space, the topic of this
>> >> >> >discussion!
>>
>> >> >> Did you actually watch it? He Hi-Karate'd his way through half the
>> >> >> invading miners.
>>
>> >> >Not in drag he didn't. Have YOU watched it?
>>
>> >> >> BTW it was You that first extended the discussion to general commen=

>ts
>> >> >> on the Pertwee period.
>>
>> >> >No I didn't. Stop trying to stir it because of old grudges.
>>
>> >> Grudges?
>>
>> >> Only if you consider different points of view to be grudges...
>>
>> >> I don't dislike you personally because we have differing opinions
>> >> about DW. I don't even take it personally when you heap vitriolic
>> >> abuse on me for expressing opinions that disagree with yours.
>>
>> >> The fact remains that you concluded your review with the words
>>
>> >> QUOTE
>> >> This was such a great period for Doctor Who. Pertwee is fantastic,
>> >> playing the role totally straight and with the authority that
>> >> Troughton lacked.
>> >> UNQUOTE
>>
>> >> This was an indisputable generalisation which left an opening for
>> >> general comments about Pertwee's Who.
>>
>> >Are you Autistic?
>>
>> Said autistic troll Sainsbury.
>> --
>
>Oh dear, looks like I gave you a new word to parrot into an insult.
>Nasty Yads. You're ***NO*** Christian. Jesus is SO gonna kick yo ass.
>
>
>
>
>

Thus lies TRollsbury.

"The Great One"

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"Mr.Smartypants" <bunghol...@lycos.com> wrote in message news:eb323fc9-a234-4bd0...@y32g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> "One person's Jizz is my "icing on the cake", says Ged.


So you like jizz on your cake, Ged? No surprise there.
--
Mrs. Smarty-Panties
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

You really like Ged......donncha Queer Smarty-Panties ??
--
John C.

Soze

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On Nov 1, 10:02 pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> In article
> <bfa53889-e1c0-46b5-8476-618b36ae7...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
> AlanSailsbury <alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >On Nov 1, 4:30=A0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> >> In article
> >> <07ac8503-62d0-4585-a6c4-e6ec5883b...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups=
> >.com>,
>
> >> AlanSailsbury =A0<alansailsb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >On Nov 1, 2:04=3DA0pm, The Laughing Dalek <fuck...@microsoft.com>
> >> >wrote:
>
> >> >> Yes he was really playing it "straight" when he was dressing up in
> >> >> women's cloths or totally serious when he was singing in the shower
> >> >> or
> >> >> coming up with that ridiculous Venusian Akido or whatever the fuck
> >> >> it
> >> >> was?
>
> >> >None of which happened in Frontier In Space, the topic of this
> >> >discussion!
>
> >> Didn't one of the Coronation Street Regs
> >> turn up in Frontier in Space?
> >> --
>
> >Didn't recognise anyone from Corrie of that era.
>
> Shows you are detached from the REal World.

Hang on...are you saying that to be a relevant member of society you have to
be clued up on the ins and outs of soap operas? I`ve never been so proud to
be a social misfit!


AlanSailsbury

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On Nov 2, 8:25 am, Ignis Fatuus <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote:

>
> Anyhow, Colony's the one where he rescues the settlers from marauding
> miners by persuading the natives to self-destruct. Equally silly but
> less dull.

I haven't seen that story for years. Yes, I'm sure some Pertwee scenes
were silly, but IMHO Frontier was a good story. (Apart from the rushed
ending and Delgado's final scene being so anticlimatic.)

Peter J Ross

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In rec.arts.drwho on Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:09:37 -0700 (PDT),
AlanSailsbury <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> I've just finished watching the first DVD in the "Dalek War" set.
> Frontier in Space is a cracking story. I hadn't seen it since it's
> first airing.

Did you have /Doctor Who and the Space War/ to keep the memories
alive? As usual with Malcolm Hulke's books, it added a lot of depth to
the characters and explained their motivations rather more clearly
than the TV version.

> Forgotten it featured such a variety of characters, -
> Draconians, Ogrons, The Master, and The Daleks!

The Draconians were wonderful, and the Master's comical relationship
with the Ogrons is surpassed only by his relationship with Trenchard
in The Sea Devils.

> The team of Pertwee, Manning, and Delgado work well together on
> screen.

Jo was certainly much less annoying than usual in this one. It might
even be her best story.

> Delgado proving he was easily the definitive Master. Simm,
> Roberts, and Ainley pale beside him.

As you implied above, the reason he was so good is that he fitted so
well into the "team".

> Very nice long tribute to Delgado on the bonus disc, with clips of
> other shows he appeared in.

That woulkd be a big incentive for me to buy the disc, if only it
weren't paired with an insufferably dull Daleks-By-Numbers story.

> This was such a great period for Doctor Who. Pertwee is fantastic,
> playing the role totally straight and with the authority that
> Troughton lacked.

Troughton's Doctor was certainly different, but not necessarily
worse.

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Peter J Ross wrote:
> In rec.arts.drwho on Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:09:37 -0700 (PDT),
> AlanSailsbury <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I've just finished watching the first DVD in the "Dalek War" set.
>> Frontier in Space is a cracking story. I hadn't seen it since it's
>> first airing.
>
> Did you have /Doctor Who and the Space War/ to keep the memories
> alive? As usual with Malcolm Hulke's books, it added a lot of depth to
> the characters and explained their motivations rather more clearly
> than the TV version.

No. Not interested in reading the Who books. I just watch the tv show
and certain DVDs. That takes up enough time.

>> The team of Pertwee, Manning, and Delgado work well together on
>> screen.
>
> Jo was certainly much less annoying than usual in this one. It might
> even be her best story.

Yes, I thought so too. I've never found her annoying though. She was of
her time. I knew girls just like her in the Seventies.


>
>> Delgado proving he was easily the definitive Master. Simm,
>> Roberts, and Ainley pale beside him.
>
> As you implied above, the reason he was so good is that he fitted so
> well into the "team".
>
>> Very nice long tribute to Delgado on the bonus disc, with clips of
>> other shows he appeared in.
>
> That woulkd be a big incentive for me to buy the disc, if only it
> weren't paired with an insufferably dull Daleks-By-Numbers story.

I've only watched part one of Planet so far. Must get back to it this week.

>
>> This was such a great period for Doctor Who. Pertwee is fantastic,
>> playing the role totally straight and with the authority that
>> Troughton lacked.
>
> Troughton's Doctor was certainly different, but not necessarily
> worse.
>
>
>

I didn't say he was worse. I meant Pertwee's Doctor had an authority
Troughton's Doctor lacked. I was just pointing out the differences in
the two Doctor's personalities. I could easily have said 2 had an impish
charm that 3 lacked, for example.

Peter J Ross

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In rec.arts.drwho on Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:52:18 -0000, Soze
<I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> "AlanSailsbury" <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dbd91a6f-ad6b-4b39...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...


>> I've just finished watching the first DVD in the "Dalek War" set.
>> Frontier in Space is a cracking story. I hadn't seen it since it's

>> first airing. Forgotten it featured such a variety of characters, -


>> Draconians, Ogrons, The Master, and The Daleks!
>>

>> The team of Pertwee, Manning, and Delgado work well together on

>> screen. Delgado proving he was easily the definitive Master. Simm,


>> Roberts, and Ainley pale beside him.
>>

>> Very nice long tribute to Delgado on the bonus disc, with clips of
>> other shows he appeared in.
>>

>> This was such a great period for Doctor Who. Pertwee is fantastic,
>> playing the role totally straight and with the authority that
>> Troughton lacked.
>

> I agree with almost everything you say there...it`s a fun story and the
> Delgado documentary is superb. However Troughton is my second favourite
> Doctor after Tom so I`ll have to agree to disagree with you there.

But do you think the second Doctor was as authoritative as the third?
Didn't he tend to be the underdog?

AlanZarbury

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Peter J Ross wrote:
> In rec.arts.drwho on Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:52:18 -0000, Soze
> <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> "AlanSailsbury" <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:dbd91a6f-ad6b-4b39...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...
>>> I've just finished watching the first DVD in the "Dalek War" set.
>>> Frontier in Space is a cracking story. I hadn't seen it since it's
>>> first airing. Forgotten it featured such a variety of characters, -
>>> Draconians, Ogrons, The Master, and The Daleks!
>>>
>>> The team of Pertwee, Manning, and Delgado work well together on
>>> screen. Delgado proving he was easily the definitive Master. Simm,
>>> Roberts, and Ainley pale beside him.
>>>
>>> Very nice long tribute to Delgado on the bonus disc, with clips of
>>> other shows he appeared in.
>>>
>>> This was such a great period for Doctor Who. Pertwee is fantastic,
>>> playing the role totally straight and with the authority that
>>> Troughton lacked.
>> I agree with almost everything you say there...it`s a fun story and the
>> Delgado documentary is superb. However Troughton is my second favourite
>> Doctor after Tom so I`ll have to agree to disagree with you there.
>
> But do you think the second Doctor was as authoritative as the third?
> Didn't he tend to be the underdog?
>
>

That's what I meant. You've put it better than I did.

Peter J Ross

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In rec.arts.drwho on Sun, 1 Nov 2009 01:14:57 +0000, Andrew
<thec...@macunlimited.net> wrote:

> On 2009-10-31 18:09:37 +0000, AlanSailsbury <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> said:
>
>> I've just finished watching the first DVD in the "Dalek War" set.
>> Frontier in Space is a cracking story. I hadn't seen it since it's
>> first airing. Forgotten it featured such a variety of characters, -
>> Draconians, Ogrons, The Master, and The Daleks!
>>
>> The team of Pertwee, Manning, and Delgado work well together on
>> screen. Delgado proving he was easily the definitive Master. Simm,
>> Roberts, and Ainley pale beside him.
>>
>> Very nice long tribute to Delgado on the bonus disc, with clips of
>> other shows he appeared in.
>>
>> This was such a great period for Doctor Who. Pertwee is fantastic,
>> playing the role totally straight and with the authority that
>> Troughton lacked.
>

> I'm looking forward to getting this when the price drops ; )

Me too.

> I remember this period with fondness, though I felt the Master was
> over-used.

It may have seemd like that at the time, but are there any Delgado
stories that we wish he hadn't been in?

> That said, Delgado certainly was the definitive Master
> (though if Jacobi had continued in the role he may have challenged him).

Jacobi seemed a little two mad to me, but there isn't really enough of
his Master performance to judge.

> I can't agree with you on Troughton, though. For me his portrayal of

> the Doctor gave the character a depth and range and a vulnerability
> that has never since been touched.

Yes, Troughton's performance had nearly as much depth, range and
vulnerability as Hartnell's. I'd rate Troughton second out of the ten,
though there's nothing wrong with Pertwee or early Tom.

But Pertwee *is* the most authoritative. Who else could have made a
thrilling cliffhanger out of "Right, cut it open!"?

Peter J Ross

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In rec.arts.drwho on Sun, 1 Nov 2009 06:31:47 -0800 (PST), Hulahoop
<sween...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> You can pick faults with any of the Doctors if you want to:
> * Hartnell - irascible and unlikable when the mood suited
> * Troughton - Silly at times
> * Pertwee - overbearing and condescending too often

How are any of those faults? They're character flaws, but flawed
characters are interesting.

> * Baker T - to me the less said about Season 17 the better

Tom goes a bit over the top in Season 17, but Season 18 seems to me to
be his worst. He's mostly just *dull*.

<...>

> * Smith - too young

Matt Smith is young enough to be my son. His performance is going to
have to be amazing for me to accept him.

But that's OK. They're not making the show for nostalgic old gits.

Peter J Ross

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Nov 6, 2009, 7:31:46 PM11/6/09
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In rec.arts.drwho on Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:10:20 -0800 (PST),
AlanSailsbury <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On Nov 1, 2:04 pm, The Laughing Dalek <fuck...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes he was really playing it "straight" when he was dressing up in
>> women's cloths or totally serious when he was singing in the shower or
>> coming up with that ridiculous Venusian Akido or whatever the fuck it
>> was?
>>
>
> None of which happened in Frontier In Space, the topic of this
> discussion!

But at least it's about Doctor Who, unlike almost everything else
posted here.

It seemed to me that you did imply that Pertwee as authoritative not
only in Frontier but also in other stories, and I agreed with that
implication.

But of course, Troughton never dressed in women's clothes (especially
not in The Underwater Menace) or perpetrated horrifically awful music
(especially not in Power of the Daleks) or did anything amusingly
acrobatic (especially not in The Invasion).

Peter J Ross

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Nov 6, 2009, 7:38:02 PM11/6/09
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In rec.arts.drwho on Sun, 1 Nov 2009 17:58:15 -0800 (PST),
AlanSailsbury <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Who cares? Either respond to the points he made or move on to some
other conversation.

Your opinions about DW are interesting. IF's opinions about DW are
interesting. Your opinions about each other aren't interesting, not
even a little bit.

Peter J Ross

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Nov 6, 2009, 7:44:55 PM11/6/09
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In rec.arts.drwho on Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:25:11 +0000, Ignis Fatuus
<Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote:

Apart from the extensive scenes on the Earth, the Moon, and two alien
planets, of course.

> Inordinately silly and
> excessively padded in my view. Doesn't he start playing tunes on the
> sonic screwdriver to while away the time?

You're thinking of the cut scene in which Jo tootles on the Master's
bone flute.

> Anyhow, Colony's the one where he rescues the settlers from marauding
> miners by persuading the natives to self-destruct. Equally silly but
> less dull.

The primitives don't self-destruct. Only their leader does.

Personally, I find Colony In Space much duller than Frontier in Space,
but at least it was the basic for an excellent Target book.

The Doctor

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Nov 6, 2009, 7:49:26 PM11/6/09
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In article <slrnhf9do...@pjr.gotdns.org>,

Oh ! No! Trouble is back :-)

The Doctor

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In article <fLudnd-GwtuvJ2nX...@bt.com>,

TRollsbury strikes again.

The Doctor

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Nov 6, 2009, 7:50:50 PM11/6/09
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In article <slrnhf9e9...@pjr.gotdns.org>,

Peter J Ross <peadar...@gmail.com> wrote:

Oh! Dear! Oh! Dera! Oh! Dear! Me!!

The Doctor

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Nov 6, 2009, 7:52:03 PM11/6/09
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In article <fLudndiGwtv0JmnX...@bt.com>,

Such as it is.

The Doctor

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Peter J Ross <peadar...@gmail.com> wrote:

What about Tom Baker?

The Doctor

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In article <slrnhf9gb...@pjr.gotdns.org>,

Peter J Ross <peadar...@gmail.com> wrote:

10/10 .

AlanZarbury

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What we did see was a bit too camp for my liking. I don't think he'd
have made a great impression long term. I didn't think Simm was that
good in the role either. The Master should look masterful, not like a
bank clerk.

AlanZarbury

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Peter J Ross wrote:
> In rec.arts.drwho on Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:25:11 +0000, Ignis Fatuus
> <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote:

>
>> Inordinately silly and
>> excessively padded in my view. Doesn't he start playing tunes on the
>> sonic screwdriver to while away the time?
>
> You're thinking of the cut scene in which Jo tootles on the Master's
> bone flute.
>

Oh my.

The Doctor

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In article <ofOdnRmus62nWGnX...@bt.com>,

In black.

Hulahoop

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On Nov 7, 11:26 am, Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote:
> In rec.arts.drwho on Sun, 1 Nov 2009 06:31:47 -0800 (PST), Hulahoop
>
> <sweeney...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > You can pick faults with any of the Doctors if you want to:
> > *   Hartnell - irascible and unlikable when the mood suited
> > *   Troughton - Silly at times
> > *   Pertwee - overbearing and condescending too often
>
> How are any of those faults? They're character flaws, but flawed
> characters are interesting.


Is flaw not a synonym for fault (or vice versa)?

Regards

Ged

The Doctor

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In article <ofOdnRius60UWGnX...@bt.com>,

LOL!

Hulahoop

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oo-er missus indeed

Regards

Ged

Raymond Daley

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"AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in

Do you ever get bored at constantly having to change nicknames and post
addresses to get past peoples killfiles?


Peter J Ross

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In rec.arts.drwho on Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:08:01 -0800 (PST), Hulahoop
<sween...@hotmail.com> wrote:

They can be synonyms, but not if they're contrasted with each other.

The point is that a fault (or flaw) in the character is not a flaw (or
fault) in the story.

Raymond Daley

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"Raymond Daley" <raymon...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> "AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in
> Do you ever get bored at constantly having to change nicknames and post
> addresses to get past peoples killfiles?

And that was a rhetorical question, okay?

And FYI, just to prove how much of a nym shifter you are I took a gander
through my killfile.
I counted 31 different email addresses or nicks including the 1 you used as
above.
Obsessive compulsive much?


Peter J Ross

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In rec.arts.drwho on Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:08:22 +0000, AlanZarbury
<aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:

> Peter J Ross wrote:
>> In rec.arts.drwho on Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:09:37 -0700 (PDT),
>> AlanSailsbury <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I've just finished watching the first DVD in the "Dalek War" set.
>>> Frontier in Space is a cracking story. I hadn't seen it since it's
>>> first airing.
>>
>> Did you have /Doctor Who and the Space War/ to keep the memories
>> alive? As usual with Malcolm Hulke's books, it added a lot of depth to
>> the characters and explained their motivations rather more clearly
>> than the TV version.
>
> No. Not interested in reading the Who books. I just watch the tv show
> and certain DVDs. That takes up enough time.

But did you read the Target books in the 70s?

RTD has recently described his childhood experience of going into W H
Smith's and being delighted to find A BRAND NEW TARGET BOOK, and
that's exactly what I used to do.

I must have read Doctor Who and the Space War twenty times. If you
haven't read it, you should, and Geoffrey Beevers' unabridged
audiobook reading is also excellent.

Peter J Ross

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In rec.arts.drwho on Sat, 7 Nov 2009 00:52:27 +0000 (UTC), The Doctor
<doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:

> In article <slrnhf9f3...@pjr.gotdns.org>,
> Peter J Ross <peadar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Yes, Troughton's performance had nearly as much depth, range and
>>vulnerability as Hartnell's. I'd rate Troughton second out of the ten,
>>though there's nothing wrong with Pertwee or early Tom.
>>
>>But Pertwee *is* the most authoritative. Who else could have made a
>>thrilling cliffhanger out of "Right, cut it open!"?
>

> What about Tom Baker?

I don't think he'd have performed *that* cliffhanger quite as well.

john smith

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"Peter J Ross" <p...@example.invalid> wrote in message
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> In rec.arts.drwho on Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:08:22 +0000, AlanZarbury
> <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
>
>> Peter J Ross wrote:
>>> In rec.arts.drwho on Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:09:37 -0700 (PDT),
>>> AlanSailsbury <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've just finished watching the first DVD in the "Dalek War" set.
>>>> Frontier in Space is a cracking story. I hadn't seen it since it's
>>>> first airing.
>>>
>>> Did you have /Doctor Who and the Space War/ to keep the memories
>>> alive? As usual with Malcolm Hulke's books, it added a lot of depth to
>>> the characters and explained their motivations rather more clearly
>>> than the TV version.
>>
>> No. Not interested in reading the Who books. I just watch the tv show
>> and certain DVDs. That takes up enough time.
>
> But did you read the Target books in the 70s?
>
> RTD has recently described his childhood experience of going into W H
> Smith's and being delighted to find A BRAND NEW TARGET BOOK, and
> that's exactly what I used to do.
>


Same here! Didn't we all, of that generation? And then there was the
thrill of hunting down the older books in second-hand bookshops when you
went on holiday with your parents...

Peter J Ross

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In rec.arts.drwho on Sat, 7 Nov 2009 04:40:10 -0000, john smith
<the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> "Peter J Ross" <p...@example.invalid> wrote in message
> news:slrnhf9pf...@pjr.gotdns.org...
>> In rec.arts.drwho on Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:08:22 +0000, AlanZarbury
>> <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
>>
>>> Peter J Ross wrote:
>>>> In rec.arts.drwho on Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:09:37 -0700 (PDT),
>>>> AlanSailsbury <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've just finished watching the first DVD in the "Dalek War" set.
>>>>> Frontier in Space is a cracking story. I hadn't seen it since it's
>>>>> first airing.
>>>>
>>>> Did you have /Doctor Who and the Space War/ to keep the memories
>>>> alive? As usual with Malcolm Hulke's books, it added a lot of depth to
>>>> the characters and explained their motivations rather more clearly
>>>> than the TV version.
>>>
>>> No. Not interested in reading the Who books. I just watch the tv show
>>> and certain DVDs. That takes up enough time.
>>
>> But did you read the Target books in the 70s?
>>
>> RTD has recently described his childhood experience of going into W H
>> Smith's and being delighted to find A BRAND NEW TARGET BOOK, and
>> that's exactly what I used to do.
>>
>
> Same here! Didn't we all, of that generation?

There were no newsgroups or Web forums in those days. If you were a
fan, you watched the show and bought the books. You also ran around
the playground shouting "Exterminate!" and "I am the Master! You will
obey me!" a lot.

At least, that's what you did if you were born in 1964.

> And then there was the
> thrill of hunting down the older books in second-hand bookshops when you
> went on holiday with your parents...

I bought them all new (or rather, my parents did) up to /Doctor Who
and the Mutants/, which was the last one I bought before I completely
lost interest. I sold them all when I was 17, which I now regret. I
could buy replacement copies, but it wouldn't be quite the same.

Do you remember the tantalising glimpses of the Hartnell and Troughton
eras that were offered by /The Making of Doctor Who/?

AlanZarbury

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No. But as I'm not arguing with Yads anymore why would anyone killfile me?

AlanZarbury

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Perhaps you might wish to post on topic instead of wasting your time
stalking?

AlanZarbury

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Peter J Ross wrote:
> In rec.arts.drwho on Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:08:22 +0000, AlanZarbury
> <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
>
>> Peter J Ross wrote:
>>> In rec.arts.drwho on Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:09:37 -0700 (PDT),
>>> AlanSailsbury <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've just finished watching the first DVD in the "Dalek War" set.
>>>> Frontier in Space is a cracking story. I hadn't seen it since it's
>>>> first airing.
>>> Did you have /Doctor Who and the Space War/ to keep the memories
>>> alive? As usual with Malcolm Hulke's books, it added a lot of depth to
>>> the characters and explained their motivations rather more clearly
>>> than the TV version.
>> No. Not interested in reading the Who books. I just watch the tv show
>> and certain DVDs. That takes up enough time.
>
> But did you read the Target books in the 70s?

No. As I said "Not interested in reading the Who books".

>
> RTD has recently described his childhood experience of going into W H
> Smith's and being delighted to find A BRAND NEW TARGET BOOK, and
> that's exactly what I used to do.
>
> I must have read Doctor Who and the Space War twenty times. If you
> haven't read it, you should, and Geoffrey Beevers' unabridged
> audiobook reading is also excellent.
>

Why "should" I? I have other interests outside of Who. The tv series and
DVDs are sufficient. If the books work for you, fine, but I'm not
interested.

The Doctor

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In article <f65Jm.14292$9M4....@newsfe03.ams2>,

Down with trollsbury!

john smith

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"Peter J Ross" <p...@example.invalid> wrote in message
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You can have all mine, but it'd cost a fortune in postage-and-packing! I've
even got all the different editions with variant covers!

>
> Do you remember the tantalising glimpses of the Hartnell and Troughton
> eras that were offered by /The Making of Doctor Who/?


No, sorry. I'm three or four years younger than you so Pertwee was my first
Doctor...

Soze

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"john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Peter J Ross" <p...@example.invalid> wrote in message
> news:slrnhf9pf...@pjr.gotdns.org...
>> In rec.arts.drwho on Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:08:22 +0000, AlanZarbury
>> <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote:
>>
>>> Peter J Ross wrote:
>>>> In rec.arts.drwho on Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:09:37 -0700 (PDT),
>>>> AlanSailsbury <alansa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've just finished watching the first DVD in the "Dalek War" set.
>>>>> Frontier in Space is a cracking story. I hadn't seen it since it's
>>>>> first airing.
>>>>
>>>> Did you have /Doctor Who and the Space War/ to keep the memories
>>>> alive? As usual with Malcolm Hulke's books, it added a lot of depth to
>>>> the characters and explained their motivations rather more clearly
>>>> than the TV version.
>>>
>>> No. Not interested in reading the Who books. I just watch the tv show
>>> and certain DVDs. That takes up enough time.
>>
>> But did you read the Target books in the 70s?
>>
>> RTD has recently described his childhood experience of going into W H
>> Smith's and being delighted to find A BRAND NEW TARGET BOOK, and
>> that's exactly what I used to do.
>>
>
>
> Same here! Didn't we all, of that generation? And then there was the
> thrill of hunting down the older books in second-hand bookshops when you
> went on holiday with your parents...

There was a second hand bookshop in Plymouth called `Bonus Books` ( come to
think of it, it`s still there I believe! ) which my Dad would take me to
every time the family went into town. There were always second hand Who
target books in there and occaionally a load would turn up all at once...it
was like a treasure trove. I have quite fond memories of walking in there
and seeing two rows of new second hand books, trawling through them trying
to decide which ones to get! I knew these were old TV stories novelised and
they became like some holy grail in my mind...Dr Who I`d never seen but
could read about. I was devastated to find out many years later that all
these TV stories had been ditched or wiped. Always annoys me when people
defend the Beeb`s policy over this, saying that they`d never have known
there would eventually be a demand for old Dr Who episodes. When I was 7
years old reading The Web Fear I`d have *loved* the chance to actually see
it. If I knew it`s value as a 7 year old why was some adult in the
television industry ordering it`s death!? Bastards!!


"The Great One"

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"AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in message news:F9idnVRl0rYI02jX...@bt.com...

Because you're Gay !!
--
John C.

"The Great One"

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"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message news:hd3ti6$ekj$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...

> In article <f65Jm.14292$9M4....@newsfe03.ams2>,
> Raymond Daley <raymon...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >"AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in
> >
> >Do you ever get bored at constantly having to change nicknames and post
> >addresses to get past peoples killfiles?
> >
> >
>
> Down with trollsbury!
> --
> Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doc...@nl2k.ab.ca

I concur !!
--
John C.

The Doctor

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In article <upKdnYTPhfr6s2vX...@centurytel.net>,
\"The Great One\" <hones...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
>"AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in message =

>news:F9idnVRl0rYI02jX...@bt.com...
>> Raymond Daley wrote:
>> > "AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in
>> >=20
>> > Do you ever get bored at constantly having to change nicknames and =
>post=20
>> > addresses to get past peoples killfiles?=20
>> >=20
>> >=20
>>=20
>> No. But as I'm not arguing with Yads anymore why would anyone killfile =

>me?
>
>Because you're Gay !!
>--
>John C.

All atheists are.


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The Doctor

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In article <0YadnXp88rcrs2vX...@centurytel.net>,

\"The Great One\" <hones...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message =

>news:hd3ti6$ekj$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>> In article <f65Jm.14292$9M4....@newsfe03.ams2>,
>> Raymond Daley <raymon...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> >"AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in
>> >
>> >Do you ever get bored at constantly having to change nicknames and =
>post=20
>> >addresses to get past peoples killfiles?=20
>> >
>> >
>>=20
>> Down with trollsbury!
>> --=20
>> Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nl2k.ab.ca Ici =

>doc...@nl2k.ab.ca
>
>I concur !!
>--
>John C.

About time the troublemaker left the internet in whole.


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John Fleming

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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:30:11 +0000 (UTC), while chained to a
desk in the scriptorium doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The
Doctor) wrote:
> $In article <upKdnYTPhfr6s2vX...@centurytel.net>,
> $\"The Great One\" <hones...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> $>
> $>"AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in message =
> $>news:F9idnVRl0rYI02jX...@bt.com...
> $>> Raymond Daley wrote:
> $>> > "AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in
> $>> >=20
> $>> > Do you ever get bored at constantly having to change nicknames and =
> $>post=20
> $>> > addresses to get past peoples killfiles?=20
> $>> >=20
> $>> >=20
> $>>=20
> $>> No. But as I'm not arguing with Yads anymore why would anyone killfile =
> $>me?
> $>
> $>Because you're Gay !!
> $>--
> $>John C.
> $
> $All atheists are.

The doctor stoops to new levels of stupidity.

Hate to break it to you doc, but there are lots of
Christians who are gay, just as there are lots of atheists
who aren't.

--

John Fleming
Edmonton, Canada

Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
And on that farm he had a genome E-I-E-I-O
With a SNP SNP here and a SNP SNP there,
Here a SNP, there a SNP, everywhere a SNP SNP
Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O

Hulahoop

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On Nov 9, 1:55 am, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:30:11 +0000 (UTC), while chained to a
> desk in the scriptorium doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The
>
>
>
>
>
> Doctor) wrote:
> > $In article <upKdnYTPhfr6s2vXnZ2dnUVZ_vmdn...@centurytel.net>,
>      Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

But as long as Zarbs sticks to ignoring EVI, then EVI is going to up
the ante in order to try and provoke a response. Who knows how far he
will go?

Why? Because he is troll who needs responses so he can maximise his
own post count. However, it should be amusing finding out

Regards

Ged

The Doctor

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In article <nrmdf5t8gem9o41gr...@4ax.com>,

There is no such thing as a homosexual Christian.

Both old and new testaments say it.

The Doctor

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In article <18ce660d-4151-48b4...@y32g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
Hulahoop <sween...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Nov 9, 1:55=A0am, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:30:11 +0000 (UTC), while chained to a
>> desk in the scriptorium doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Doctor) wrote:
>> > $In article <upKdnYTPhfr6s2vXnZ2dnUVZ_vmdn...@centurytel.net>,
>> > $\"The Great One\" <honestj...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>> > $>
>> > $>"AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in message =3D

>> > $>news:F9idnVRl0rYI02jX...@bt.com...
>> > $>> Raymond Daley wrote:
>> > $>> > "AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in
>> > $>> >=3D20
>> > $>> > Do you ever get bored at constantly having to change nicknames an=
>d =3D
>> > $>post=3D20
>> > $>> > addresses to get past peoples killfiles?=3D20
>> > $>> >=3D20
>> > $>> >=3D20
>> > $>>=3D20
>> > $>> No. But as I'm not arguing with Yads anymore why would anyone killf=
>ile =3D

>> > $>me?
>> > $>
>> > $>Because you're Gay !!
>> > $>--
>> > $>John C.
>> > $
>> > $All atheists are.
>>
>> The doctor stoops to new levels of stupidity.
>>
>> Hate to break it to you doc, but there are lots of
>> Christians who are gay, just as there are lots of atheists
>> who aren't.
>>
>> --
>>
>> John Fleming
>> Edmonton, Canada
>>
>> =A0 =A0 =A0Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
>> =A0 =A0 =A0And on that farm he had a genome E-I-E-I-O
>> =A0 =A0 =A0With a SNP SNP here and a SNP SNP there,
>> =A0 =A0 =A0Here a SNP, there a SNP, everywhere a SNP SNP
>> =A0 =A0 =A0Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O- Hide quoted text -

>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>But as long as Zarbs sticks to ignoring EVI, then EVI is going to up
>the ante in order to try and provoke a response. Who knows how far he
>will go?
>
>Why? Because he is troll who needs responses so he can maximise his
>own post count. However, it should be amusing finding out
>
>Regards
>
>Ged

TRoll on Hulaloop.

snowman

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That is one of the most asinine things that you have ever said. And we
have a huge stock of asinine things that you have uttered in the past.

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"It's the customer's privilege to burst their own f*cking yolk."

-Gordon Ramsey

PV

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Good grief, you have just stooped to a brand new low. What a fascinating
tunnel mind you have, but do you ever attempt to think for yourself?

Please point out one verse or passage where the word homosexual is used.
Please point out where Jesus condemned homosexuality

No rush, I'll wait


--
PV

Stupidity is a condition
Ignorance is a choice


AlanZarbury

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It's comments like that from David (and his claim that I'm jealous of
his Twitter "followers", - as if it was somehow important) that make me
wonder if he's just being deliberately inflammatory, but then I think
that the comments are so nuts that it's just down to his condition. I
think he actually believes it, which is sad, but it's really not his
fault due to the way his mind perceives the world.


Stephen Wilson

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"PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote in message
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I challenged him on this before. He was going to tell me exactly where. This
was some time ago (years rather than months). He also promised to explain
exactly where the Bible said the talking snake was Satan. I'm still waiting.

He can't find it. He won't find it. But he'll carry on spouting the same
crap regardless.


AlanZarbury

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But again this is part of his condition. He makes rash statements then
when challenged he says he'll back it up, thinking we'll forget and
that'll be the end of it. It's the childlike way his mind works. I know
this sounds like I'm excusing him, and I am, - he simply can't help
himself. No one would be so obtuse for so many years on purpose.

Anyway, there I go wasting time talking about him again. Meanwhile back
on topic....

Re: Frontier in Space. Is it just me or did anyone else think that
"Madame President" in that story may have influenced the character of
Servalan from Blake's 7? And her right hand man was quite like Travis too!

Mr.Smartypants

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On Nov 8, 7:30 am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> In article <upKdnYTPhfr6s2vXnZ2dnUVZ_vmdn...@centurytel.net>,

> \"The Great One\" <honestj...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >"AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in message =
> >news:F9idnVRl0rYI02jX...@bt.com...
> >> Raymond Daley wrote:
> >> > "AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in
> >> >=20
> >> > Do you ever get bored at constantly having to change nicknames and =
> >post=20
> >> > addresses to get past peoples killfiles?=20
> >> >=20
> >> >=20
> >>=20
> >> No. But as I'm not arguing with Yads anymore why would anyone killfile =
> >me?
>
> >Because you're Gay !!
> >--
> >John C.
>
> All atheists are.
> --


That is the STUPIDEST thing I think you've ever posted.

PV

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He does seem to place a lot of emphasis on twitter friends and Usenet Posts,
when in reality they mean nothing in the real world. I also have been
working at ignoring him and could care less if he has twitter followers ( is
"Twat" the singular of Twit?)

How this post was way over the edge but in truth I suspect that I have been
trolled by Doc once again.

It would be sad in this day and age if he actually believed this particular
statement as truth. And very pathetic too.

PV

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Nov 8, 2009, 4:10:38 PM11/8/09
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He will run away again as he always does when challenged and pop up again
with another load of crap to be served piping hot to Usenet.

He is the master of the hit and run Usenet post where quantity is more
important the quality.

The Doctor

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Nov 8, 2009, 4:20:42 PM11/8/09
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Said troll snowman.

The Doctor

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Nov 8, 2009, 4:21:55 PM11/8/09
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In article <MBCJm.51093$Db2.22941@edtnps83>,

Please don't troll PV.

The Doctor

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Nov 8, 2009, 4:22:30 PM11/8/09
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In article <_aDJm.12689$TK7....@newsfe18.ams2>,

TRoll denying Christianity for you.

The Doctor

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Nov 8, 2009, 4:39:01 PM11/8/09
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In article <882d558f-f96e-4a18...@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
Mr.Smartypants <bunghol...@lycos.com> wrote:

>On Nov 8, 7:30=A0am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> In article <upKdnYTPhfr6s2vXnZ2dnUVZ_vmdn...@centurytel.net>,
>> \"The Great One\" <honestj...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >"AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in message =3D

>> >news:F9idnVRl0rYI02jX...@bt.com...
>> >> Raymond Daley wrote:
>> >> > "AlanZarbury" <aza...@yahoo.cachoo> wrote in
>> >> >=3D20

>> >> > Do you ever get bored at constantly having to change nicknames and =
>=3D
>> >post=3D20
>> >> > addresses to get past peoples killfiles?=3D20
>> >> >=3D20
>> >> >=3D20
>> >>=3D20

>> >> No. But as I'm not arguing with Yads anymore why would anyone killfile=
> =3D

>> >me?
>>
>> >Because you're Gay !!
>> >--
>> >John C.
>>
>> All atheists are.
>> --
>
>
>That is the STUPIDEST thing I think you've ever posted.
>

Whay? ARe you one ? Wait a Nazi comes close.

The Doctor

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Nov 8, 2009, 4:39:56 PM11/8/09
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In article <oqGJm.51135$Db2.16931@edtnps83>,

2 jealous trolls ganging up.

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