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Meerkat
May 15, 2013, 11:28:40 AM5/15/13
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Quote:
Those were some of the more shareable words flying around social media
Wednesday morning as people reacted to a story from the New York Post
that "rich Manhattan moms" have discovered a way to skip lines at Disney
World: They hire disabled guides "to pose as family members" so they can
skip to the front.
"The black-market Disney guides run $130 an hour, or $1,040 for an
eight-hour day," the report said.
Link to complete story
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/15/us/disney-skipping-lines/index.html?hpt=hp_
t2
Same Link in tiny format
http://tinyurl.com/ajo9dos
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Those were some of the more shareable words flying around social media
Wednesday morning as people reacted to a story from the New York Post
that "rich Manhattan moms" have discovered a way to skip lines at Disney
World: They hire disabled guides "to pose as family members" so they can
skip to the front.
"The black-market Disney guides run $130 an hour, or $1,040 for an
eight-hour day," the report said.
Link to complete story
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/15/us/disney-skipping-lines/index.html?hpt=hp_
t2
Same Link in tiny format
http://tinyurl.com/ajo9dos
--
Meerkat1 - Chief Engineer
RADP Pavilion
RanchoDoug
May 15, 2013, 12:14:24 PM5/15/13
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The 'Front of the Line' works in Disneyland, but not in DCA. In DCA
they issue you a future fastpass based on the estimated wait time.
On Wed, 15 May 2013 11:28:40 -0400, Meerkat <mee...@student.edu>
wrote:
they issue you a future fastpass based on the estimated wait time.
On Wed, 15 May 2013 11:28:40 -0400, Meerkat <mee...@student.edu>
wrote:
Keane
May 15, 2013, 1:38:58 PM5/15/13
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Patty Winter
May 15, 2013, 2:34:55 PM5/15/13
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In article <meerkat-08A573...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>,
Meerkat <mee...@student.edu> wrote:
>Quote:
>
>Those were some of the more shareable words flying around social media
>Wednesday morning
Here are the missing words from the beginning of the story:
>Quote:
>
>Those were some of the more shareable words flying around social media
>Wednesday morning
"Crazy." "Freaky." "Awful." "Despicable."
>as people reacted to a story from the New York Post
>that "rich Manhattan moms" have discovered a way to skip lines at Disney
>World: They hire disabled guides "to pose as family members" so they can
>skip to the front.
Do certain non-Disney tour companies have that privilege?
Patty
Steve Russo
May 15, 2013, 3:09:43 PM5/15/13
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not. You would get preferential treatment at those that aren't. When we
had my dad with us, way back in 2000, his chair got us to the front of
the line at the Great Movie Ride. We bypassed the last few feet of
Kilimanjaro Safari to head to the wheelchair loading platform. I can
recall special loading areas for him at other rides but I can't recall
any other queues that we completely skipped.
--
Steve
Patty Winter
May 15, 2013, 3:28:02 PM5/15/13
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In article <kn0maj$igr$1...@dont-email.me>,
Steve Russo <sru...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
[snip]
>I would suggest that *most* queues at WDW are accessible but some are
>not. You would get preferential treatment at those that aren't. When we
>had my dad with us, way back in 2000, his chair got us to the front of
>the line at the Great Movie Ride. We bypassed the last few feet of
>Kilimanjaro Safari to head to the wheelchair loading platform. I can
>recall special loading areas for him at other rides but I can't recall
>any other queues that we completely skipped.
area is quite common, but in how many cases can these people actually
skip to the front of the line?
Patty
Keane
May 15, 2013, 3:30:01 PM5/15/13
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On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:09:43 -0400, Steve Russo <sru...@nycap.rr.com>
wrote:
>
>I would suggest that *most* queues at WDW are accessible but some are
>not. You would get preferential treatment at those that aren't. When we
>had my dad with us, way back in 2000, his chair got us to the front of
>the line at the Great Movie Ride. We bypassed the last few feet of
>Kilimanjaro Safari to head to the wheelchair loading platform. I can
>recall special loading areas for him at other rides but I can't recall
>any other queues that we completely skipped.
In addition to Great Movie Ride and KJS are The Tiki Room, CBJ, MILF,
CoP, Spaceship Earth, TSMM and BatB come to mind... Haunted
Mansion is like KJS, but you follow the queue to the chicken exit
and enter the ride via the unload platform... I'm sure
there are others, but never got on those attractions.
Do they still have GACs at WDW? I think we used a couple (with
Dreslaine) in 2010...
wrote:
>
>I would suggest that *most* queues at WDW are accessible but some are
>not. You would get preferential treatment at those that aren't. When we
>had my dad with us, way back in 2000, his chair got us to the front of
>the line at the Great Movie Ride. We bypassed the last few feet of
>Kilimanjaro Safari to head to the wheelchair loading platform. I can
>recall special loading areas for him at other rides but I can't recall
>any other queues that we completely skipped.
CoP, Spaceship Earth, TSMM and BatB come to mind... Haunted
Mansion is like KJS, but you follow the queue to the chicken exit
and enter the ride via the unload platform... I'm sure
there are others, but never got on those attractions.
Do they still have GACs at WDW? I think we used a couple (with
Dreslaine) in 2010...
Gina Bull
May 15, 2013, 3:30:40 PM5/15/13
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I also posted in slawter's post about this. Being disabled does not get you front-of-the-line
privilege. You may get diverted to an alternate entrance after you've waited in the queue. But you
don't get to skip the lines. (I use a scooter.)
-----------------
Gina in Virginia
privilege. You may get diverted to an alternate entrance after you've waited in the queue. But you
don't get to skip the lines. (I use a scooter.)
-----------------
Gina in Virginia
JerryD(upstateNY)
May 15, 2013, 3:31:47 PM5/15/13
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When I went to the Haunted Mansion with my wife on a scooter, we didn't go
on the elevator.
They sent us right to where the ride began.
There were others.
"It's a small world" has a special boat for handicap people, so you have to
wait until that particular boat comes around.
There are a number of rides that the handicap go to a special line and it's
usually a much shorter wait than the regular line.
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on the elevator.
They sent us right to where the ride began.
There were others.
"It's a small world" has a special boat for handicap people, so you have to
wait until that particular boat comes around.
There are a number of rides that the handicap go to a special line and it's
usually a much shorter wait than the regular line.
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JerryD(upstateNY)
May 15, 2013, 3:45:17 PM5/15/13
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It looks like everyone else has had a different opinion than mine.
It's been at least 5 years since I have been to WDW with a handicap
person, so maybe they have changed things.
But I do remember getting on rides faster.
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JerryD(upstateNY)
"JerryD(upstateNY)" wrote in message
It's been at least 5 years since I have been to WDW with a handicap
person, so maybe they have changed things.
But I do remember getting on rides faster.
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JerryD(upstateNY)
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Darrell Jefress
May 15, 2013, 4:00:07 PM5/15/13
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If these guests really are disabled, I'm not sure what the issue is.
(Apart from the fact that given current policies, it likely doesn't work.)
N via D
"Meerkat" <mee...@student.edu> wrote in message
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(Apart from the fact that given current policies, it likely doesn't work.)
N via D
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Patty Winter
May 15, 2013, 4:48:26 PM5/15/13
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In article <kn0pjr$1ma$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,
Darrell Jefress <eve...@tokyo.com> wrote:
>If these guests really are disabled, I'm not sure what the issue is.
The issue is the people getting special privileges by pretending to
>If these guests really are disabled, I'm not sure what the issue is.
be family members of the disabled people. At least, the article says
that these groups are not being upfront about the disabled person
being a paid tour guide. Apparently the guides are pretending to be
normal guests.
I don't know what policies Disney has about external tour groups
and what special privileges they do or don't get if the guide is
disabled. Normally a guide wouldn't even go on a ride with their
clients, would they? (Unless it's something like a train taking
them to another part of the park.)
Patty
Darrell Jefress
May 15, 2013, 5:14:55 PM5/15/13
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"Patty Winter" <pat...@wintertime.com> wrote in message
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guest, but not all are related - such as a group of friends, one of whom is
in a wheelchair?
There seems to be no difference with the scenario described in the article.
N via D
news:5193f49a$0$52773$742e...@news.sonic.net...
>
> In article <kn0pjr$1ma$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,
> Darrell Jefress <eve...@tokyo.com> wrote:
>>If these guests really are disabled, I'm not sure what the issue is.
>
> The issue is the people getting special privileges by pretending to
> be family members of the disabled people.
What is the policy for "typical" touring parties in which include a disabled
> In article <kn0pjr$1ma$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,
> Darrell Jefress <eve...@tokyo.com> wrote:
>>If these guests really are disabled, I'm not sure what the issue is.
>
> The issue is the people getting special privileges by pretending to
> be family members of the disabled people.
guest, but not all are related - such as a group of friends, one of whom is
in a wheelchair?
There seems to be no difference with the scenario described in the article.
N via D
Meerkat
May 15, 2013, 5:31:20 PM5/15/13
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In article <i0i7p89p43nbot7fi...@4ax.com>,
added to my headers.
Note: I really could use a decent digital camera.
Keane <ke...@keanespics.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 May 2013 11:28:40 -0400, Meerkat <mee...@student.edu>
> wrote:
>
> >Quote:
> >
> >Those were some of the more shareable words flying around social media
> >Wednesday morning as people reacted to a story from the New York Post
> >that "rich Manhattan moms" have discovered a way to skip lines at Disney
> >World: They hire disabled guides "to pose as family members" so they can
> >skip to the front.
> >
> >"The black-market Disney guides run $130 an hour, or $1,040 for an
> >eight-hour day," the report said.
> >
> >Link to complete story
> >
> >http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/15/us/disney-skipping-lines/index.html?hpt=hp_
> >t2
> >
> >Same Link in tiny format
> >
> >http://tinyurl.com/ajo9dos
>
> Whoops, sorry, didn't see this before I posted.
>
> Keane
OK No Problem. I have been waiting for someone to notice the "X-Face" I
> On Wed, 15 May 2013 11:28:40 -0400, Meerkat <mee...@student.edu>
> wrote:
>
> >Quote:
> >
> >Those were some of the more shareable words flying around social media
> >Wednesday morning as people reacted to a story from the New York Post
> >that "rich Manhattan moms" have discovered a way to skip lines at Disney
> >World: They hire disabled guides "to pose as family members" so they can
> >skip to the front.
> >
> >"The black-market Disney guides run $130 an hour, or $1,040 for an
> >eight-hour day," the report said.
> >
> >Link to complete story
> >
> >http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/15/us/disney-skipping-lines/index.html?hpt=hp_
> >t2
> >
> >Same Link in tiny format
> >
> >http://tinyurl.com/ajo9dos
>
> Whoops, sorry, didn't see this before I posted.
>
> Keane
added to my headers.
Note: I really could use a decent digital camera.
Patty Winter
May 15, 2013, 5:39:56 PM5/15/13
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In article <kn0u02$era$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,
Darrell Jefress <eve...@tokyo.com> wrote:
>"Patty Winter" <pat...@wintertime.com> wrote in message
>news:5193f49a$0$52773$742e...@news.sonic.net...
>>
>"Patty Winter" <pat...@wintertime.com> wrote in message
>news:5193f49a$0$52773$742e...@news.sonic.net...
>>
>> The issue is the people getting special privileges by pretending to
>> be family members of the disabled people.
>
>What is the policy for "typical" touring parties in which include a disabled
>guest, but not all are related - such as a group of friends, one of whom is
>in a wheelchair?
I assume they all get to accompany the person in the wheelchair.
>> be family members of the disabled people.
>
>What is the policy for "typical" touring parties in which include a disabled
>guest, but not all are related - such as a group of friends, one of whom is
>in a wheelchair?
>There seems to be no difference with the scenario described in the article.
who are operating commercial ventures on their property? They're just
like any other visitors? I'd be very surprised if that's true.
Patty
Darrell Jefress
May 15, 2013, 5:45:35 PM5/15/13
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> Really? Are you sure that Disney has no special policies for people
> who are operating commercial ventures on their property? They're just
> like any other visitors? I'd be very surprised if that's true.
Whatever arrangements members of a touring party make between themselves
have no impact on Disney's operations of its parks. Five guests who enter a
park are five guests who enter a park. If one of the five gives some money
to one of the other four, that's between them.
> Really? Are you sure that Disney has no special policies for people
> who are operating commercial ventures on their property? They're just
> like any other visitors? I'd be very surprised if that's true.
have no impact on Disney's operations of its parks. Five guests who enter a
park are five guests who enter a park. If one of the five gives some money
to one of the other four, that's between them.
Paragon
May 15, 2013, 6:59:20 PM5/15/13
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Someone posted on FB that the tour operator went to Disney and said that
they have ceased the "VIP tours".
People just amaze me.
they have ceased the "VIP tours".
People just amaze me.
JG
May 15, 2013, 7:34:02 PM5/15/13
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On May 15, 10:28 am, Meerkat <meer...@student.edu> wrote:
> Quote:
>
> Those were some of the more shareable words flying around social media
> Wednesday morning as people reacted to a story from the New York Post
> that "rich Manhattan moms" have discovered a way to skip lines at Disney
> World: They hire disabled guides "to pose as family members" so they can
> skip to the front.
>
> "The black-market Disney guides run $130 an hour, or $1,040 for an
> eight-hour day," the report said.
>
> Link to complete story
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/15/us/disney-skipping-lines/index.html?hpt...
> Quote:
>
> Those were some of the more shareable words flying around social media
> Wednesday morning as people reacted to a story from the New York Post
> that "rich Manhattan moms" have discovered a way to skip lines at Disney
> World: They hire disabled guides "to pose as family members" so they can
> skip to the front.
>
> "The black-market Disney guides run $130 an hour, or $1,040 for an
> eight-hour day," the report said.
>
> Link to complete story
>
On one hand its nice to see the disabled get employed, OTOH its not
surprising that the entitled class would participate in this scheme.
Rudeney
May 16, 2013, 6:22:44 PM5/16/13
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On 5/15/2013 10:28 AM, Meerkat wrote:
> Quote:
>
> Those were some of the more shareable words flying around social media
> Wednesday morning as people reacted to a story from the New York Post
> that "rich Manhattan moms" have discovered a way to skip lines at Disney
> World: They hire disabled guides "to pose as family members" so they can
> skip to the front.
>
> "The black-market Disney guides run $130 an hour, or $1,040 for an
> eight-hour day," the report said.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ajo9dos
> Quote:
>
> Those were some of the more shareable words flying around social media
> Wednesday morning as people reacted to a story from the New York Post
> that "rich Manhattan moms" have discovered a way to skip lines at Disney
> World: They hire disabled guides "to pose as family members" so they can
> skip to the front.
>
> "The black-market Disney guides run $130 an hour, or $1,040 for an
> eight-hour day," the report said.
>
At one time, media outlets like the NYT and CNN could be respected for
delivering valid, accurate information. Now, I see them carry stories
that compete with the Enquirer. This just smacks of either being an
urban legend someone dug up, or even being totally fabricated just to
make sensational news. Think about it the details: rich, stay-at-home
moms, Disney vacation and people in wheelchairs being taken advantage
of. It couldn't have been more slanted unless they threw in the fact
that the mom's drove their in their Mercedes SUVs.
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May 16, 2013, 7:17:26 PM5/16/13
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In article <kn3lv0$edh$1...@rudeney.motzarella.org>,
Rudeney <rud...@mickeypics.com> wrote:
>
>At one time, media outlets like the NYT and CNN could be respected for
>delivering valid, accurate information. Now, I see them carry stories
>that compete with the Enquirer. This just smacks of either being an
>urban legend someone dug up, or even being totally fabricated just to
>make sensational news.
Wasn't the existence of the tour company in question confirmed?
>
>At one time, media outlets like the NYT and CNN could be respected for
>delivering valid, accurate information. Now, I see them carry stories
>that compete with the Enquirer. This just smacks of either being an
>urban legend someone dug up, or even being totally fabricated just to
>make sensational news.
Patty
Dreslaine
May 16, 2013, 9:15:09 PM5/16/13
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Yes Keane, there are still GAC's at WDW. Because of Dad we were able to
use them in some attraction queues, some of them like a fastpass. With
the new fastpass+ who knows how they will work. I don't know if Dad will
ever get back to Disney World, but it was certainly helpful when
balancing Dad's abilities or lack there of.
Dreslaine
use them in some attraction queues, some of them like a fastpass. With
the new fastpass+ who knows how they will work. I don't know if Dad will
ever get back to Disney World, but it was certainly helpful when
balancing Dad's abilities or lack there of.
Dreslaine
Paragon
May 17, 2013, 5:08:47 AM5/17/13
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I, too, awaited a more credible source. But apparently, it's true. Maybe.
Someone posted that the company had come to Disney and said the VIP tours
were discontinued. Still not sure about this. Could be. I don't
know.....have doubts....hedging my bets.....LOL.
Someone posted that the company had come to Disney and said the VIP tours
were discontinued. Still not sure about this. Could be. I don't
know.....have doubts....hedging my bets.....LOL.
Brian
May 17, 2013, 7:19:28 PM5/17/13
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On Wed, 15 May 2013 16:34:02 -0700 (PDT), JG <jgro...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>On one hand its nice to see the disabled get employed, OTOH its not
>surprising that the entitled class would participate in this scheme.
I've seen this posted on FB by a number of liberals and even the
header here is the same. It isn't the way the story is headlined.
Saying the 1% makes it sound like the rich heartless Republicans are
doing this.
I doubt that there are many Republicans on upper Park Ave. in
Manhattan.
wrote:
>On one hand its nice to see the disabled get employed, OTOH its not
>surprising that the entitled class would participate in this scheme.
header here is the same. It isn't the way the story is headlined.
Saying the 1% makes it sound like the rich heartless Republicans are
doing this.
I doubt that there are many Republicans on upper Park Ave. in
Manhattan.
Nooffa Subject
May 17, 2013, 9:41:45 PM5/17/13
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Brian <drmorri...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I've seen this posted on FB by a number of liberals and even the
> header here is the same. It isn't the way the story is headlined.
> Saying the 1% makes it sound like the rich heartless Republicans are
> doing this.
ASSuming that the richest 1% are rich,heartless Republicans is a mistake.
> I've seen this posted on FB by a number of liberals and even the
> header here is the same. It isn't the way the story is headlined.
> Saying the 1% makes it sound like the rich heartless Republicans are
> doing this.
Paragon
May 18, 2013, 9:51:22 AM5/18/13
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"Brian" <drmorri...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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all....who exactly has more of an entitlement mentality anyway? Not saying
I know who is doing it, just don't want to see liberals making this about
politics...not without me firing back, that is. ;)
Brian
May 19, 2013, 5:39:50 PM5/19/13
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Sandi Femino
May 29, 2013, 11:59:09 AM5/29/13
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In article <519400ac$0$52785$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
Special Assistance passes and was bringing quite a large group through
the fast Pass line. The CM told him it was only good for 6 guests.
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Patty Winter <pat...@wintertime.com> wrote:
> >What is the policy for "typical" touring parties in which include a disabled
> >guest, but not all are related - such as a group of friends, one of whom is
> >in a wheelchair?
>
> I assume they all get to accompany the person in the wheelchair.
actually saw this a couple days ago at ExE. A guest had one of those
> >What is the policy for "typical" touring parties in which include a disabled
> >guest, but not all are related - such as a group of friends, one of whom is
> >in a wheelchair?
>
> I assume they all get to accompany the person in the wheelchair.
Special Assistance passes and was bringing quite a large group through
the fast Pass line. The CM told him it was only good for 6 guests.
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