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Hey, Harry -- you retired ten years ago (Funky Winkerbean)

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Rich Carreiro

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Nov 24, 2007, 10:16:15 AM11/24/07
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Why is Dinkle acting like he just quit bandleading? He gave up bandleading
before The Great Leap Forward, i.e. over ten years ago in strip time.

--
Rich Carreiro rlc-...@rlcarr.com

aemeijers

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Nov 24, 2007, 10:29:26 AM11/24/07
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I didn't see the strip, but I have known plenty of people like that in
real life- they just can't let go.

aem sends...

Paige

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Nov 24, 2007, 11:13:06 AM11/24/07
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On Nov 24, 8:29 am, aemeijers <aemeij...@att.net> wrote:
> Rich Carreiro wrote:
> > Why is Dinkle acting like he just quit bandleading? He gave up bandleading
> > before The Great Leap Forward, i.e. over ten years ago in strip time.
>
> > --
> > Rich Carreiro rlc-n...@rlcarr.com

>
> I didn't see the strip, but I have known plenty of people like that in
> real life- they just can't let go.
>
> aem sends...

And did they even HAVE VCRs in the early 1970s when All in the Family
aired on TV? I don't think so...

Paige

Peter B. Steiger

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Nov 24, 2007, 11:50:46 AM11/24/07
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On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:13:06 -0800, Paige sez:

> And did they even HAVE VCRs in the early 1970s when All in the Family
> aired on TV? I don't think so...

<Wikipedia to the rescue>
Betamax was first to market in November 1975 [ ... ]
The rival VHS format (introduced in the United States in September 1976 by RCA) [...]
</Wikipedia>

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nickelshrink

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Nov 24, 2007, 12:51:48 PM11/24/07
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Peter B. Steiger wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:13:06 -0800, Paige sez:
>
>> And did they even HAVE VCRs in the early 1970s when All in the Family
>> aired on TV? I don't think so...
>
> <Wikipedia to the rescue>
> Betamax was first to market in November 1975 [ ... ]
> The rival VHS format (introduced in the United States in September 1976 by RCA) [...]
> </Wikipedia>
>

Yeah, but i'd call this sort of an anachronism. It was possible,
since _All in the Family_ went on till 1979, but wasn't the technology
way expensive for a high school teacher? Though maybe as
a bandleader/musician, he had professional excuses to tape
parades and performances off TV. Tax write-off?

One _Columbo_ episode from 1976 (i had to look that year up)

> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074328/#comment

depended on the use of a $3000 video recorder.

If tomorrow's 'Funky' has Dinkle looking puzzled at his Betamax
tape and saying "Why won't this machine play it?" or maybe
actually using his still-mint Betamax machine, that'll be funny!
But i doubt it, since that thing looks like a VHS tape.


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Don Del Grande

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Nov 24, 2007, 1:24:47 PM11/24/07
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Paige wrote:

>And did they even HAVE VCRs in the early 1970s when All in the Family
>aired on TV? I don't think so...

I noticed that as well - but Nick At Nite aired reruns; he probably
recorded those.

-- Don

aemeijers

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Nov 24, 2007, 6:51:24 PM11/24/07
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I doubt the author put a lot of research into it, but even in that era
it was not unknown for (rich) high schools to tape their teams and
bands, usually on reel-to-reel decks or those old industrial cassette
decks. (As TV stations bought modern stuff, they would give the old to
the schools for a tax writeoff.) Due to the then sky-high media cost,
only special stuff got saved, and the other tapes reused. Not outside
the limits of plausibility, that when that hardware was phased out, the
A/V squad or the booster club had the saved material converted to Beta
or whatever. Other than day games, though, the quality would be crappy-
early video tape under stadium lights was marginal at best.

aem sends....

aemeijers

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Nov 24, 2007, 7:00:56 PM11/24/07
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Top posting since I am replying to myself-
(slaps forehead) I glossed right over the part where he was wanting to
watch an old TV show. I either have to start reading Funky online,
depressing tho it is, or ignore the Funky threads....

New theory- the tapes were from later, when AITF was in 24/7
syndication for several years. You couldn't turn on a television in the
early 80s without seeing it.

aem sends, again....

racs...@gmail.com

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Nov 24, 2007, 7:48:16 PM11/24/07
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I was working in TV in 1975-76 and it was a very big deal in I think
the spring of '76 when we could actually bring the commercial to the
client for viewing instead of making the client come to the station
for a "screening." The damn thing was the size of a small suitcase,
but we were pretty hep to have it.

Not sure of the expense, but I do know that time-shifting was pretty
limited. IIRC, you had to be there to push the button and the tapes
only ran for an hour, so taping a movie required a couple of cassettes
and some attention. The advantage was not that you could tape shows
when you weren't home -- it was that you could watch one show while
you were taping another. Given the number of networks at the time,
this was also a limited application. WTBS wasn't on cable, don't know
if WGN or that station from California with the Big Sur Waterbed
commercials had emerged on the wire yet. You had to be an early
adaptor to get into it at that stage, because the practical advantages
were few.

In any case, given the quality of the joke and the level of realism in
this strip, I think it's kind of a waste to bend over backwards to
find some explanation. Yeah, he could have taped them in the fifth or
sixth season, or maybe last week. But basically, Batiuk screwed up and
it doesn't much matter. He can't really expect anyone to spend any
more time thinking about these things than he does, and for all the
work he's put into this time-jump, he's never put much effort into
learning about landmines or marijuana or, I guess, videocassette
recorders.

Mike Peterson
http://nellieblogs.blogspot.com

nickelshrink

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Nov 24, 2007, 9:32:47 PM11/24/07
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pete...@SPAMnelliebly.org wrote:
> He can't really expect anyone to spend any
> more time thinking about these things than he does, and for all the
> work he's put into this time-jump, he's never put much effort into
> learning about landmines or marijuana or, I guess, videocassette
> recorders.
>
> Mike Peterson
> http://nellieblogs.blogspot.com


Or sentence structure.

> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/funky.asp?date=20071123

Jim Ellwanger

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Nov 24, 2007, 11:00:46 PM11/24/07
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In article <pan.2007.11...@for.email.address>,

"Peter B. Steiger" <see...@for.email.address> wrote:

> On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:13:06 -0800, Paige sez:
>
> > And did they even HAVE VCRs in the early 1970s when All in the Family
> > aired on TV? I don't think so...
>
> <Wikipedia to the rescue>
> Betamax was first to market in November 1975 [ ... ]
> The rival VHS format (introduced in the United States in September 1976 by
> RCA) [...]
> </Wikipedia>

Those were the first mass-appeal consumer VCRs, but slightly before them
came the U-Matic system, which used cassettes containing
three-quarter-inch tape (VHS and Beta are both half-inch). In my
college History of Broadcasting class, we saw some shows that the
professor had recorded on his U-Matic machine when they originally aired
in the '70s.

U-Matic was also used for certain professional applications -- when I
interned at the UPN affiliate in Chicago in 1996, they were playing
their commercials off of U-Matic cassettes (and their actual programming
from one-inch videotape reels). I'm sure they've switched to a digital
video server by now.

--
Jim Ellwanger <use...@ellwanger.tv>
<http://www.ellwanger.tv> welcomes you daily.
"The days turn into nights; at night, you hear the trains."

Dann

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Nov 26, 2007, 7:18:54 AM11/26/07
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On 24 Nov 2007, Jim Ellwanger said the following in
news:usenet-6334A2....@news.dslextreme.com.

> In article <pan.2007.11...@for.email.address>,
> "Peter B. Steiger" <see...@for.email.address> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:13:06 -0800, Paige sez:
>>
>> > And did they even HAVE VCRs in the early 1970s when All in the
>> > Family aired on TV? I don't think so...
>>
>> <Wikipedia to the rescue>
>> Betamax was first to market in November 1975 [ ... ]
>> The rival VHS format (introduced in the United States in September
>> 1976 by RCA) [...]
>> </Wikipedia>
>
> Those were the first mass-appeal consumer VCRs, but slightly before
> them came the U-Matic system, which used cassettes containing
> three-quarter-inch tape (VHS and Beta are both half-inch). In my
> college History of Broadcasting class, we saw some shows that the
> professor had recorded on his U-Matic machine when they originally
> aired in the '70s.
>
> U-Matic was also used for certain professional applications -- when I
> interned at the UPN affiliate in Chicago in 1996, they were playing
> their commercials off of U-Matic cassettes (and their actual
> programming from one-inch videotape reels). I'm sure they've switched
> to a digital video server by now.
>

The 3/4 inch format was popular in military aviation for a while with
unusual repercussions.

During the 1991 Gulf War, the Air Force and the Navy public affairs were
releasing "greatest hits" videos to reporters to be broadcast during the
evening news.

Rumor control has it that the Commandant of the Marine Corps [in
Washington D.C. at the time] called my squadron commander [in the sandy
land] to ask him why the Corps didn't have such videos for distribution.
As a repair facility/organization, we didn't have the capability to
transfer from 3/4 inch to VHS electronically.

So we ended up running the 3/4 inch format to a monitor and then holding
a VHS camcorder to tape the video while it played.

--
Regards,
Dann

blogging at http://web.newsguy.com/dainbramage/blog.htm

Freedom works; each and every time it is tried.

racs...@gmail.com

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Nov 26, 2007, 8:55:23 PM11/26/07
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On Nov 26, 7:18 am, Dann <detox...@hotmail.com> wrote:


> The 3/4 inch format was popular in military aviation for a while with
> unusual repercussions.
>
> During the 1991 Gulf War, the Air Force and the Navy public affairs were
> releasing "greatest hits" videos to reporters to be broadcast during the
> evening news.
>
> Rumor control has it that the Commandant of the Marine Corps [in
> Washington D.C. at the time] called my squadron commander [in the sandy
> land] to ask him why the Corps didn't have such videos for distribution.
> As a repair facility/organization, we didn't have the capability to
> transfer from 3/4 inch to VHS electronically.
>
> So we ended up running the 3/4 inch format to a monitor and then holding
> a VHS camcorder to tape the video while it played.

And then he read a story in LIFE Magazine about this chaplain who
wrote prayers for the pilots before every mission. Now, if he could
have HIS chaplain do that, it would be a real feather in his cap!

Mike Peterson
Pianola, Maine

Jim Ellwanger

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Nov 27, 2007, 9:32:47 AM11/27/07
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In article <usenet-6334A2....@news.dslextreme.com>,
Jim Ellwanger <use...@ellwanger.tv> wrote:

> Those were the first mass-appeal consumer VCRs, but slightly before them
> came the U-Matic system, which used cassettes containing
> three-quarter-inch tape (VHS and Beta are both half-inch).

And to follow up on this, here's a clip from a recording that was made
by a pre-U-Matic consumer-level videotape (not videocassette) recorder:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8W5sumSR_Q

(This is an off-air recording of WCBS-TV in New York, from the week of
March 26, 1973, which was the very first week of "The $10,000 Pyramid,"
although this isn't the first episode. The master tape of this episode
is no longer in existence -- in fact, all but a couple of weeks' worth
of the first five years of "The $10,000 Pyramid" and "The $20,000
Pyramid" is gone.)

jt3y (Jason Togyer)

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Nov 28, 2007, 4:48:13 PM11/28/07
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pete...@SPAMnelliebly.org wrote:

> And then he read a story in LIFE Magazine about this chaplain who
> wrote prayers for the pilots before every mission. Now, if he could
> have HIS chaplain do that, it would be a real feather in his cap!
>
> Mike Peterson
> Pianola, Maine

The fighting young priest who can talk to the young, no doubt.

---
Jason "Guilty, Guilty, Guilty!" Togyer
Waldenport, Pa., USA
http://www.tubecityonline.com/almanac

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