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Katzenjammer Kids: Not the way I remember it

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Silver Puss

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Apr 7, 2004, 3:54:34 AM4/7/04
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I was looking at the Katzenjammer strips on the King Features site.
It's not as good as I remember from the 60s and from issues of Tip Top
Comics (which also featured Nancy and Sluggo and Peanuts). I think
the art looks rather like someone trying to do Little Iodine. But the
main reason is that the dialog is stilted and the Pennsylvania Dutch
voices unconvincing. This is how it should be done (Tip Top Comics No
225, May-July 1961 Copyright 1961 United Feature Syndicate):

MAMA: I iss going shopping. Und remember...if der chob ain't
finished ven I get back, I paint der noggins black und blue mit der
roller pin!

Another thing: Hans Katzenjammer now speaks perfect English!

jack

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Apr 7, 2004, 10:05:17 AM4/7/04
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How did it come to be silver?

DD DEGG CO

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Apr 7, 2004, 11:16:49 PM4/7/04
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>From: Silver Puss

>I was looking at the Katzenjammer strips on the King Features site.

Since it is the only Sunday strip that shows up on the
kingfeatures.com website, though I haven't check them all,
we may as well talk about it.

>...Another thing: Hans Katzenjammer now speaks perfect English!

I take it you just read the March 21 strip. If you go into the
four week archive you will see both Hans and Fritz speaking
with an accent. I am not real familiar with the characters but
I believe that blond boy in the March 21 strip is not Hans.
(For some reason the name Rollo pops into mind, but I
certainly wouldn't swear to it.)

>It's not as good as I remember from the 60s...


>the art looks rather like someone trying to do Little Iodine.

Maybe because the artist (and writer?) Hy Eisman was the
artist on "Little Iodine" for 20+ years.

Hy Eisman (b. March 27, 1927)
[cartoonist, comic books, greeting cards]

"It Happened in N. J." (1955 - 1957) Newark News
creator/writer/artist
"Kerry Drake" (1943 - 1983) Publ. Hall/Field
ghosted pencils (for Andriola) 1957 - 1959
"Bringing Up Father" (1913 - 2000) KFS
ghosted daily pencils (for Greene) 1959 - 1961
(ghosted?) daily art 1964 - 1964
"Mutt and Jeff" (1907 - 1983) [too many to list]
assistant (pencils) 1963, 1965 - 1966
(writer?)/artist ca: ?
"Little Iodine" (1943 - 1986) [KFS] (Sunday only)
artist 1967 - 1986 (assisted Dunn earlier)
"The Katzenjammer Kids" (1897 - present) [KFS]
Sunday ?writer?/artist 1986 - present
"Thimble Theater starring Popeye" (1919 - present) [KFS]
Sunday ?writer?/artist 1994 - present

>It's not as good as I remember from the 60s

That would have been drawn by Joe Musial and written by ?.

Credited creators for the Katzies have been:
Rudolph Dirks 1897 - 1912
Harold Knerr 1914 -1949
Doc Winner 1949 - 1956
Joe Musial !956 - 1976
Mike Senich 1976 -1981
Angelo DeCesare 1981 - 1986
Hy Eisman 1986 - present

I think that it is totally appropriate that if only one Sunday strip
is goning to appear on the KFS website that it be the oldest
comic strip.

D. D. Degg (who is missing his "Steve Roper" Sundays)


Silver Puss

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Apr 8, 2004, 7:01:48 AM4/8/04
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I'm not sure I understood your question. How did what become (the color?) silver?

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Silver Puss

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Apr 8, 2004, 7:10:42 AM4/8/04
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I stand corrected. The March 7 strip shows a blond boy (Hans) with an
accent, with slightly different hair than Rollo. Rollo resembles a
rich kid character Rollo Haveall in the Nancy and Sluggo comic books.
I think he was one of John Stanley's creations and is similar to
Wilbur Van Snobbe of Little Lulu.

I don't have any of the old newspaper strips but in my copies of Tip
Top Comics, Hans has reddish hair.

I haven't seen enough of the strip in its current incarnation to know
whether the Katzenjammers are as destructive as before.

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Guy Gilchrist

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Apr 8, 2004, 9:09:04 AM4/8/04
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"Silver Puss" <ak55...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I stand corrected. The March 7 strip shows a blond boy (Hans) with an
> accent, with slightly different hair than Rollo. Rollo resembles a
> rich kid character Rollo Haveall in the Nancy and Sluggo comic books.
> I think he was one of John Stanley's creations and is similar to
> Wilbur Van Snobbe of Little L


Hi, ROLLO is a creation of Ernie Bushmiller.
He appears frequently in our strip.
Guy Gilchrist
Nancy
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Biffy the Elephant Shrew

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Apr 8, 2004, 10:20:50 AM4/8/04
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Guy Gilchrist wrote:

<< Hi, ROLLO is a creation of Ernie Bushmiller.
He appears frequently in our strip. >>

I thought he was a creation of Charles Ives.

Your pal,
Biffy the Elephant Shrew
"If substituting bugs for raisins in oatmeal cookies is wrong,
I don't want to be right."--Bucky Katt

jack

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Apr 8, 2004, 12:02:23 PM4/8/04
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ddde...@aol.comnixspam (DD DEGG CO) wrote in message
> I think that it is totally appropriate that if only one Sunday strip
> is goning to appear on the KFS website that it be the oldest
> comic strip.
>
>

Eisman's attempts at "Popeye" are also on the KFS site.

Roy G Biv

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Apr 11, 2004, 9:28:39 PM4/11/04
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"Silver Puss" wrote in message news colon 9931d0a4 dot 0404080310
dot 15853d1a at posting dot google dot com:
->> I stand corrected. The March 7 strip shows a blond boy (Hans)
->>with an accent, with slightly different hair than Rollo. Rollo
->>resembles a rich kid character Rollo Haveall in the Nancy and
->>Sluggo comic books. I think he was one of John Stanley's creations
->>and is similar to Wilbur Van Snobbe of Little L

...to which Guy Gilchrist (of the Nancy comic strip) replied on
Thu, 08 Apr 2004 at 13:09:04 GMT:
->Hi, ROLLO is a creation of Ernie Bushmiller. He appears frequent-
->ly in our strip.

But there WAS a Rollo in the Katzenjammers! A well-dressed,
well-spoken, blond kid. In her book "The Great American Comic
Strip -- One Hundred Years of Cartoon Art," Judith O'Sullivan de-
scribed Rollo as "a hypocritical goody-goody dandy inspired by
Outcault's 'Buster Brown,' [who] was the nemesis of the Katzen-
jammer Kids." Reprinted in the book is the November 29, 1936,
installment of "The Katzenjammer Kids," by Harold Knerr, in which
Rollo outsmarts the kids.
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Guy Gilchrist

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Apr 12, 2004, 9:07:47 AM4/12/04
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Hi, yes. But, as you know, I was referring to the character the previous
reader was writing of.
Guy

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