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Paul Ciszek

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Jul 23, 2008, 10:04:16 AM7/23/08
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Why would Les want any of Asimov's last novels to rub off on him?

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Blinky the Wonder Wombat

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Jul 23, 2008, 10:16:41 AM7/23/08
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On Jul 23, 10:04 am, nos...@nospam.com (Paul Ciszek) wrote:
> Why would Les want any of Asimov's last novels to rub off on him?
>

Or any, for that matter.

Assimov had some great ideas but was lousy at executing them.

Pat O'Neill

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Jul 23, 2008, 3:28:18 PM7/23/08
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On Jul 23, 10:04 am, nos...@nospam.com (Paul Ciszek) wrote:

I think what he wants to have rub off is some of Asimov's success in
selling a book for publication. As Wikipedia notes:

"Asimov was one of the most prolific writers of all time, having
written or edited more than 500 books and an estimated 9,000 letters
and postcards. His works have been published in nine of the ten major
categories of the Dewey Decimal System (the sole exception being the
100s, Philosophy)."

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Jul 23, 2008, 4:13:03 PM7/23/08
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Les should just move to Millborough then.

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Paul Ciszek

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Jul 23, 2008, 7:34:33 PM7/23/08
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In article <b5853b5b-af2a-44eb...@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,

...which is where they put the books about Bigfoot and UFO's, isn't it?
It is so appropriate that Asimov can be found in every hundred except
for that one.

I volunteered in the my high school library, and noticed that there were
three books by Carlos Castenada that were clearly a series, but were
cataloged in three completely different parts of the library: One in the
social sciences, one it with bigfoot and UFOs, and the last one in fiction.
I asked the head librarian about this, and she said that people took the
first one seriously, had their doubts about the second one, and by the
time the third one came out it was clear he was just making stuff up.

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Jul 23, 2008, 7:35:16 PM7/23/08
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On Jul 23, 3:28 pm, "Pat O'Neill" <patdone...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Jul 23, 10:04 am, nos...@nospam.com (Paul Ciszek) wrote:
>
> > Why would Les want any of Asimov's last novels to rub off on him?
>
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> I think what he wants to have rub off is some of Asimov's success in
> selling a book for publication.

I think he just wants to recite filthy limericks to Cindy.

Mike Peterson
http://nellieblogs.blogspot.com

Peter B. Steiger

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Jul 24, 2008, 12:16:15 AM7/24/08
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:34:33 +0000, Paul Ciszek sez:
> I asked the head librarian about this, and she said that people took the
> first one seriously, had their doubts about the second one, and by the
> time the third one came out it was clear he was just making stuff up.

Funniest anecdote of the day!

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D. Peters

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Jul 24, 2008, 7:29:29 AM7/24/08
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In article <g68f69$en4$1...@reader1.panix.com>,

Paul Ciszek <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>In article <b5853b5b-af2a-44eb...@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>Pat O'Neill <patdo...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>On Jul 23, 10:04 am, nos...@nospam.com (Paul Ciszek) wrote:
>>> Why would Les want any of Asimov's last novels to rub off on him?
>>
>>I think what he wants to have rub off is some of Asimov's success in
>>selling a book for publication. As Wikipedia notes:
>>
>>"Asimov was one of the most prolific writers of all time, having
>>written or edited more than 500 books and an estimated 9,000 letters
>>and postcards. His works have been published in nine of the ten major
>>categories of the Dewey Decimal System (the sole exception being the
>>100s, Philosophy)."
>
>...which is where they put the books about Bigfoot and UFO's, isn't it?

No--that would be c. 001.94 :-)

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Alessandro

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Jul 24, 2008, 12:40:40 PM7/24/08
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Blinky the Wonder Wombat ha scritto:

> Assimov had some great ideas but was lousy at executing them.

Why you say this about Asimov ?

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Alessandro

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Jul 24, 2008, 1:22:49 PM7/24/08
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Paul Ciszek ha scritto:

> I volunteered in the my high school library, and noticed that there were
> three books by Carlos Castenada that were clearly a series, but were
> cataloged in three completely different parts of the library: One in the
> social sciences, one it with bigfoot and UFOs, and the last one in fiction.
> I asked the head librarian about this, and she said that people took the
> first one seriously, had their doubts about the second one, and by the
> time the third one came out it was clear he was just making stuff up.
>

Really fun :D But it's also true that want to classify books for
cataloguing, in a perfect way, is not always possible, in my opinion:)
Speaking of Castaneda's books, for example, I have to say that a person
can actually believe in what he writes in the first one, but the
successive books aren't credible. From what I know Castaneda has always
presented its work as the narration of facts, and hence the inclusion in
the social sciences, but can we trust in what he writes? I, for example,
after reading some of the subsequent books, have put in doubt the first
one too :P

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Leo Breebaart

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Jul 24, 2008, 2:48:17 PM7/24/08
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Alessandro <emailno...@emailnonvalida.nospam> writes:

> Blinky the Wonder Wombat ha scritto:
>
> > Assimov had some great ideas but was lousy at executing them.
>
> Why you say this about Asimov ?

No, no, no, you misunderstand. Blinky is not talking about Isaac
Asimov, but about that *other* literary giant: Issaac Assimov.
Assimov had brilliant ideas but was extremely bad, as Blinky
indicates, at executing them.

This is why his high-concept trilogy about the role cosmetics
have played in geo-politics throughout the ages ("Foundation",
"Second Foundation", "Foundation and Empire") is now justly
forgotten; why his daring exposés on the use of mechanical
killing machines in the Spanish Civil War ("Ay! Robot!", "The
Robots of Don") were only published, anonymously, in Latvia,
three decades later; and why several of his more ambitiously
erotic short stories ("Breeds There a Man...?", "The Fun They
Had", "C-Chute", "I'm In Marsport Without Hilda", and many
others) were banned by the Vatican, with Pope Pius XII in 1957
personally tracking down and burning the last existing copy of
the _F&SF_ magazine in which "Insert Knob A in Hole B" appeared.

*That* Assimov.

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Peter B. Steiger

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Jul 24, 2008, 3:56:15 PM7/24/08
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:48:17 +0000, Leo Breebaart sez:
> No, no, no, you misunderstand. Blinky is not talking about Isaac Asimov,
> but about that *other* literary giant: Issaac Assimov. Assimov had
> brilliant ideas but was extremely bad, as Blinky indicates, at executing
> them.

(brilliant bibliography snipped for brevity)

I think this makes your second POTY nominee this year. Pace yourself...
you're making the rest of us look bad!

Blinky the Wonder Wombat

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Jul 24, 2008, 4:14:44 PM7/24/08
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On Jul 24, 2:48 pm, Leo Breebaart <l...@lspace.org> wrote:

OK, maybe its just me, but ASIMOV's novels seem to be chock full of
great ideas and populated with cardboard characters speaking stilted
dialog in improbable circumstances. Other than that, he was a good
writer.

Alessandro

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Jul 26, 2008, 4:43:56 AM7/26/08
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Leo Breebaart ha scritto:

> No, no, no, you misunderstand. Blinky is not talking about Isaac
> Asimov, but about that *other* literary giant: Issaac Assimov.
> Assimov had brilliant ideas but was extremely bad, as Blinky
> indicates, at executing them.
>
> This is why his high-concept trilogy about the role cosmetics
> have played in geo-politics throughout the ages ("Foundation",
> "Second Foundation", "Foundation and Empire") is now justly
> forgotten; why his daring exposés on the use of mechanical

> killing machines in the Spanish Civil War ("Ay! Robot!", "The
> Robots of Don") were only published, anonymously, in Latvia,
> three decades later; and why several of his more ambitiously
> erotic short stories ("Breeds There a Man...?", "The Fun They
> Had", "C-Chute", "I'm In Marsport Without Hilda", and many
> others) were banned by the Vatican, with Pope Pius XII in 1957
> personally tracking down and burning the last existing copy of
> the _F&SF_ magazine in which "Insert Knob A in Hole B" appeared.
>
> *That* Assimov.
>

Oho... now I understand :D LOL
I haven't noticed the double s :)
Thanks for the explanation!

ciao
Alessandro
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