Luann
C The Shocker
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C The Shocker
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aemeijers
> Gunther copped a feel! Go GUNTH!
>
that they needed to get Gunther to an endocrinologist, since no straight
16-17 YO Amurrican male I have ever known, even the timid ones like me,
would be able to be in a situation like that, and not do, or at least
SAY, something, of a horny nature. Or does making fun of her holding her
breath to make her measurements seem bigger count as that?
And a side comment- what teenage girl doesn't know her own measurements?
(at least in our idiotic society?)
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aemeijers <aeme...@att.net> wrote:
Who says she doesn't? :)
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> And a side comment- what teenage girl doesn't know her own
> measurements? (at least in our idiotic society?)
Come on. She's making him take measurements because she WANTS him to
cop a feel. Alas, little progress is occuring.
Brian
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Joseph Nebus
>C The Shocker wrote:
>> Gunther copped a feel! Go GUNTH!
>>
>When? Both hands were clearly in view at all times. I was about to post
>that they needed to get Gunther to an endocrinologist, since no straight
>16-17 YO Amurrican male I have ever known, even the timid ones like me,
>would be able to be in a situation like that, and not do, or at least
>SAY, something, of a horny nature. Or does making fun of her holding her
>breath to make her measurements seem bigger count as that?
Well, I know that at that age I'd have been too shy to make
anything that could be suggestive, at least not deliberately, and
I'd have disintegrated of embarrassment had something I said been
taken as suggestive. I grant that I'm an extreme of a particular
personality type in that I was old enough to run for President of
the United States before I ever had a successful date.
>And a side comment- what teenage girl doesn't know her own measurements?
>(at least in our idiotic society?)
I'd expect she would know her sizes as in what sort of shirt
or jeans to wear, but that's a different thing from having hip and
waist and whatever female for inseam is and all the other fiddly
details needed for a custom-made costume.
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aemeijers
tell me that if you buy one (two?) with the wrong number, they don't
fit, and are as uncomfortable as hell.
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Mark Jackson
> aemeijers <aeme...@att.net> writes:
>> what teenage girl doesn't know her own measurements?
>> (at least in our idiotic society?)
>
> I'd expect she would know her sizes as in what sort of shirt
> or jeans to wear, but that's a different thing from having hip and
> waist and whatever female for inseam is and all the other fiddly
> details needed for a custom-made costume.
Gunther will have a heart attack if measuring Luann's inseam is on the menu.
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C The Shocker
> Joseph Nebus wrote:
>> aemeijers <aeme...@att.net> writes:
>
>>> what teenage girl doesn't know her own measurements? (at least in our
>>> idiotic society?)
>>
>> I'd expect she would know her sizes as in what sort of shirt or
>> jeans to wear, but that's a different thing from having hip and waist
>> and whatever female for inseam is and all the other fiddly details
>> needed for a custom-made costume.
>
> Gunther will have a heart attack if measuring Luann's inseam is on the
> menu.
>
After Saturday's strip, I'm wondering if Gunther is some impossible,
asexual teenage being..... or gay.
Jym Dyer
> is on the menu.
=v= Naww, that's for a later arc when she's being fitted for
a bicycle.
<_Jym_>
aemeijers
some practice time with her blooming feminine wiles. Gunther is nice and
safe and non-threatening, and she likes him well enough, but is pretty
sure he'll never actually try to DO anything. We know he isn't gay, from
his comment a couple days ago about how this would be easier if they
weren't 'grownups'. We also know he has been semi-secretly pining for
her off and on for years.
BTDT, sort of, from the 'safe' friend POV. At that age, it can be very
confusing, especially if you are timid, like Guther. He oughta plant one
on her, just to freak her out a little. (I'll show YOU intimate....)
In a hundred years, when strip time has advanced five or six years,
they'll probably be married.
--
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Evan Kirshenbaum
> aemeijers <aeme...@att.net> writes:
>
>>And a side comment- what teenage girl doesn't know her own
>>measurements? (at least in our idiotic society?)
>
> I'd expect she would know her sizes as in what sort of shirt
> or jeans to wear, but that's a different thing from having hip and
> waist and whatever female for inseam is and all the other fiddly
> details needed for a custom-made costume.
The only measurement-like number she's likely to know (as opposed to
the arbitrary sizes used for most garments) would be for her bra size,
but even that won't get him the bust size he needs. (Stop snickering.
You know what I meant.) Combined with the cup size it will get you
close (and I'd guess that Gunther knows how to combine the two), but
he'd have to take into account what hook she wears it on, too. It's
easier just to measure. (More fun, too.)
Guys by that age, on the other hand, likely know at least waist size,
inseam, and probably collar size.
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Ted Nolan <tednolan>
Evan Kirshenbaum <kirsh...@hpl.hp.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>Guys by that age, on the other hand, likely know at least waist size,
>inseam, and probably collar size.
>
>--
>Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------
Really?
I'm 47, and I have no idea what my collar size or inseam are.
For shirts I just need to know "size 17" works. For pants
I just need to know the waist size and how long the legs are.
Maybe if I wore *tight* pants I'd need to know something else..
Ted
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> In article <zll27z...@hpl.hp.com>,
> Evan Kirshenbaum <kirsh...@hpl.hp.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>Guys by that age, on the other hand, likely know at least waist size,
>>inseam, and probably collar size.
>>
>>--
>>Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------
>
> Really?
>
> I'm 47, and I have no idea what my collar size or inseam are.
> For shirts I just need to know "size 17" works. For pants
> I just need to know the waist size and how long the legs are.
> Maybe if I wore *tight* pants I'd need to know something else..
>
> Ted
Size 17 is your collar size. "How long the legs are" is your inseam.
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Antonio E. Gonzalez
wrote:
>aemeijers wrote:
>
>
>> And a side comment- what teenage girl doesn't know her own
>> measurements? (at least in our idiotic society?)
>
>Come on. She's making him take measurements because she WANTS him to
>cop a feel. Alas, little progress is occuring.
>
>
DaveandMaddieDaveandMaddieDaveandMaddie . . . oh, sorry, just
giving the obvious reason you'll never see Luann and Gunther hook up;
at least not until the end of the comic is clear . . .
Dann
news:ouoKk.243$ok4...@eagle.america.net.
> Ted Nolan <tednolan> <t...@loft.tnolan.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm 47, and I have no idea what my collar size or inseam are.
>> For shirts I just need to know "size 17" works. For pants
>> I just need to know the waist size and how long the legs are.
>> Maybe if I wore *tight* pants I'd need to know something else..
>>
>> Ted
>
> Size 17 is your collar size. "How long the legs are" is your inseam.
>
Sure, but given the trend towards more golf/polo shirts, knowing your
collar size is probably less of an issue than knowing S, M, L, XL, XXL,
etc.
I'll give you the other two, but only because men's clothes tend to be
sized base on known dimensions rather than on ephemeral labels.
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Cindy Kandolf
> Female undies come with numbers, at least the upper portion does. They
> tell me that if you buy one (two?) with the wrong number, they don't
> fit, and are as uncomfortable as hell.
The band size of a woman's bra is only vaguely related to the bust
size on a sewing pattern. You can get away with using it to pick the
right size for a loose-fitting garment, but Gunther already said the
costume is form-fitting. He needs to use that tape measure.
- Cindy Kandolf, certified language mechanic, mamma flodnak
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Tove Momerathsson
I looked back at Monday's strip
<http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/luann/archive/luann-20081014.html>
and Gunther's words were "quite form-fitting". In that case, he'd
need quite a lot more measurements than just bust, waist and hips.
Top-of-shoulders to waist, chest measurement under bust, distance
from that measurement to waist, etc. Unless he's planning on making
it form-fitting by repeated fittings, and he'd still be better off
with a good starting point.
And where's his protractor?
Tove
Invid Fan
Momerathsson <to...@voyager.net> wrote:
He's just happy to see her.
Joy Beeson
> And a side comment- what teenage girl doesn't know her own measurements?
> (at least in our idiotic society?)
A wise dressmaker NEVER takes the client's word instead of
measurements.
Joy Beeson
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Jym Dyer
=v= Do your friends say the words "ill-fitting" a lot? Does
your face turn purple when you wear a tie? Do people make jokes
about "floods" and "high tides" when you stroll by in pants?
<_Jym_>
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
Probably, but I don't wear ties, so *that's* not a problem.
Shirts, I wear a "size" that feels and looks OK. I've just been
informed here that these sizes are collar measurments, and have no
reason to doubt that. Live and learn. Pants are sized in "W" &
"L". Apparently the "L" is inseam:
<carson>I did not know that.</carson>
Paul
> Does your face turn purple when you wear a tie?
Doesn't everyones? I've met a lot of people wearing ties who obviously
have a lower blood flow to the brain....
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Dann
news:d7ekdg...@phb.lart.ca.
>> Sure, but given the trend towards more golf/polo shirts, knowing your
>> collar size is probably less of an issue than knowing S, M, L, XL,
>> XXL, etc.
>
> Especially with the way that S, M, L, XL and the like have been
> shifting over the years.
Has it been shifting or are there different population characteristics
in play?
Seriously.
I know the stereotype is that the Japanese are a bit shorter and
slighter of build compared with Americans.
At the same time, during my time in the Middle East, it seemed that the
size range for almost everyone in that part of the world was in the XS
to M end of the American size range.
Has there been mission creep in clothing sizing or could it be that S,
M, L, XL, XXL are relative sizes that have different results for
different cultures? Perhaps some of both??
Jim Strain
> In article <Xns9B3B955E72091detox665hotmail...@74.209.136.95>,
>
>
>
>
>
> Dann <detox...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On 18 Oct 2008, Rob Wynne said the following in
> >news:ouoKk.243$ok4...@eagle.america.net.
> > > Ted Nolan <tednolan> <t...@loft.tnolan.com> wrote:
> > >> I'm 47, and I have no idea what my collar size or inseam are.
> > >> For shirts I just need to know "size 17" works. For pants
> > >> I just need to know the waist size and how long the legs are.
> > >> Maybe if I wore *tight* pants I'd need to know something else..
>
> > >> Ted
>
> > > Size 17 is your collar size. "How long the legs are" is your inseam.
>
> > Sure, but given the trend towards more golf/polo shirts, knowing your
> > collar size is probably less of an issue than knowing S, M, L, XL, XXL,
> > etc.
>
> over the years.
>
> Deliberately, mind. Japanese clothes sizes are quite a lot smaller
> than North American clothes sizes, and I wanted to be able to buy
> clothes without having to hit up the HUGE GUY sizes, especially since
> the HUGE GUY sizes are every dimension scaled up. Apparently a guy who
> takes XXL is also seven feet tall.
>
> So I managed to diet myself down to the point where I was wearing a
> Japanese XL size, and it fit just a little snugly. Then I went back
> to Canada for a bit, and while I was there, I took the chance to pick up
> some clothes in sizes that I figured might fit me a bit better.
>
> Well, where in Canada I took an XXL and it fit me comfortably, now it
> seems I take an M, and it's baggy on me. And I can tell just from one
> glance at my pot belly that I'm a long way from being a skinny runt.
> The last time I wore M in 1988, I was 14 years old, and that was a much
> smaller M than 2008's version.
>
> Now I'm down to a Japanese L (ultimate goal: M), which I suppose means
> that if I were to try buying clothes in Canada, I'd have to start
> investigating children's sizes.
>
> --Dave- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
So where do the Sumo wrestlers buy their clothes? That's where I'd
have to shop.
. . . jim strain in san diego.
aemeijers
> On 21 Oct 2008, Dave Brown said the following in
> news:d7ekdg...@phb.lart.ca.
>
>>> Sure, but given the trend towards more golf/polo shirts, knowing your
>>> collar size is probably less of an issue than knowing S, M, L, XL,
>>> XXL, etc.
>> Especially with the way that S, M, L, XL and the like have been
>> shifting over the years.
>
> Has it been shifting or are there different population characteristics
> in play?
>
> Seriously.
>
> I know the stereotype is that the Japanese are a bit shorter and
> slighter of build compared with Americans.
>
> At the same time, during my time in the Middle East, it seemed that the
> size range for almost everyone in that part of the world was in the XS
> to M end of the American size range.
>
> Has there been mission creep in clothing sizing or could it be that S,
> M, L, XL, XXL are relative sizes that have different results for
> different cultures? Perhaps some of both??
>
S,M,L,XL, XXL have no standard, at least not one that is enforced.
Makers of female clothing are notorious for vanity-stroking their
customers by making the labels read a size smaller than they really are.
I have learned over the years, when I find an item I like, buy one, wash
it a couple times, and if it still fits, go back and buy every one they
have in that size. (I'm at the tail of the stockage bell curve, of the
'normal' sizes.)
Shoe sizes have some connection to reality, and now that most
mass-market shoes are made in far east for worldwide sales, every box
has a rosetta stone listing the sizes by country.
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ronniecat
> Now I'm down to a Japanese L (ultimate goal: M), which I suppose means
> that if I were to try buying clothes in Canada, I'd have to start
> investigating children's sizes.
>
> --Dave
Start looking for the more butch women's wear, Dave - Size 0 has started
showing up in Canadian women's clothing stores.
Which is the single stupidest development I've seen in some time.
ronnie
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Joy Beeson
> Makers of female clothing are notorious for vanity-stroking their
> customers by making the labels read a size smaller than they really are.
*A* size smaller? Just *one*?
When I weighed 115 pounds, I took a 16 dress.
Or maybe it was sixteen in patterns and fourteen in RTW.
It's been a long time.
I haven't the foggiest what I take at 175. I've been wearing custom
from the skin out for decades.
Except for shoes, and I found socks I can wear at Big R last week.
ronniecat
news:q81tf4prasta9iluc...@4ax.com:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:42:32 GMT, aemeijers <aeme...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> Makers of female clothing are notorious for vanity-stroking their
>> customers by making the labels read a size smaller than they really
>> are.
>
> *A* size smaller? Just *one*?
>
> When I weighed 115 pounds, I took a 16 dress.
Holy smokes. I wear a 12, and I am quite a bit more that 115 pounds!
Joy Beeson
<ronn...@mycollarronniecat.com> wrote:
> > When I weighed 115 pounds, I took a 16 dress.
>
> Holy smokes. I wear a 12, and I am quite a bit more that 115 pounds!
That's what forty years of vanity sizing will do.
I remembered an old RTW dress in my closet, and it still has the size
tag: 10. Fits perfectly, or a tad loose, at 175.5 pounds.
And I suspect that if it were on the rack today, it would be an 8.
Laurent Lehmann
>Has it been shifting or are there different population characteristics
>in play?
>
>Seriously.
Both. There's been a recent census in France to adjust sizes to
current population characteristics. And size measurements are
different all over the world, even in adjacent European countries,
which makes buying clothes while you're travelling on business and
overstaying much more than initially planned (or having your luggage
lost in an airport somewhere) all the more much fun.