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Dann

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Dec 14, 2008, 10:57:41 AM12/14/08
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One of the better gags of the day....

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Charles Brubaker

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Dec 14, 2008, 1:53:19 PM12/14/08
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On Dec 14, 9:57 am, Dann <detox...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://comics.com/the_knight_life/2008-12-14/
>
> One of the better gags of the day....
>
> --
> Regards,
> Dann
>
> blogging athttp://web.newsguy.com/dainbramage/blog.htm

>
> Freedom works; each and every time it is tried.

This is actually a redrawn version of an "K Chronicles" from few years
back:

http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/12-15-2003-48630.asp

Wingnut

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Dec 14, 2008, 2:06:49 PM12/14/08
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"Charles Brubaker" <cbru...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8957b2b6-39d1-4708...@k8g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...

http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/12-15-2003-48630.asp

May I say how impressed I am that you not only remembered this from five
years go, but were able to find it, and expose the plagiarism.


Dann

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Dec 14, 2008, 3:02:13 PM12/14/08
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On 14 Dec 2008, Wingnut said the following in
news:gi3lgc$qdt$1...@news.motzarella.org.

> . On Dec 14, 9:57 am, Dann <detox...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> http://comics.com/the_knight_life/2008-12-14/
>>
>> One of the better gags of the day....
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Dann
>>
>> blogging athttp://web.newsguy.com/dainbramage/blog.htm
>>
>> Freedom works; each and every time it is tried.
>
> This is actually a redrawn version of an "K Chronicles" from few years
> back:
>
> http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/12-15-2003-48630.asp
>
> May I say how impressed I am that you not only remembered this from
> five years go, but were able to find it, and expose the plagiarism.
>
>

An artist that recycles a gag is a plagerist?

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Dann

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Wingnut

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Dec 14, 2008, 3:22:49 PM12/14/08
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"Dann" <deto...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 14 Dec 2008, Wingnut said the following in
> news:gi3lgc$qdt$1...@news.motzarella.org.
>
>> "Charles Brubaker" <cbru...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:8957b2b6-39d1-4708...@k8g2000yqn.googlegroups.com..
>> . On Dec 14, 9:57 am, Dann <detox...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> http://comics.com/the_knight_life/2008-12-14/
>>>
>>> One of the better gags of the day....
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Dann
>>>
>>> blogging athttp://web.newsguy.com/dainbramage/blog.htm
>>>
>>> Freedom works; each and every time it is tried.
>>
>> This is actually a redrawn version of an "K Chronicles" from few years
>> back:
>>
>> http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/12-15-2003-48630.asp
>>
>> May I say how impressed I am that you not only remembered this from
>> five years go, but were able to find it, and expose the plagiarism.
>>
>>
>
> An artist that recycles a gag is a plagerist?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Dann
>

The leaning tree I don't have a problem with, but the text was pretty
identical...

LNER...@juno.com

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Dec 14, 2008, 7:10:56 PM12/14/08
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So, for those who weren't there a few days ago, let me repost the
remarks of Antonio E. Gonzalez in response to my thoughts on this
strip having so few newspapers:

">I recently had a chance to go through a large selection of past
>production of Knight's "The K Chronicles."

That's great, what about the comic in question, "The Knight Life"?

>Yes, occasionally laugh-out-loud funny. Of course, I could say the
>same thing about both "Mallard Fillmore" and "The Boondocks,"
>"Candorville" and "Prickly City."

Umm, it's called The Knight Life . . .

>But any smart editor, if they're looking at his past production, will
>seriously have to wonder just what Knight can say once his favorite
>whippin' boy is out of office.

Seriously, The Knight Life . . . "

Anyone wanna order this chap some crow sauce?

Dann

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Dec 14, 2008, 10:20:01 PM12/14/08
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On 14 Dec 2008, Wingnut said the following in
news:gi3pus$bnc$1...@news.motzarella.org.

> "Dann" <deto...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9B74993D31CAd...@74.209.136.100...
>> On 14 Dec 2008, Wingnut said the following in
>> news:gi3lgc$qdt$1...@news.motzarella.org.
>>
>>> "Charles Brubaker" <cbru...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:8957b2b6-39d1-4708...@k8g2000yqn.googlegroups.com

>>> .. . On Dec 14, 9:57 am, Dann <detox...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> http://comics.com/the_knight_life/2008-12-14/
>>>>
>>>> One of the better gags of the day....
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dann
>>>>
>>>> blogging athttp://web.newsguy.com/dainbramage/blog.htm
>>>>
>>>> Freedom works; each and every time it is tried.
>>>
>>> This is actually a redrawn version of an "K Chronicles" from few
>>> years back:
>>>
>>> http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/12-15-2003-48630.asp
>>>
>>> May I say how impressed I am that you not only remembered this from
>>> five years go, but were able to find it, and expose the plagiarism.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> An artist that recycles a gag is a plagerist?
>>

>>
>

> The leaning tree I don't have a problem with, but the text was pretty
> identical...

I'm afraid I was unclear. Let me try again.

An artist that recycles his own gag is a plagerist?

Keith Knight draws both the K Chronicles and The Knight Life.

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Mike Beede

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Dec 14, 2008, 11:21:21 PM12/14/08
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In article <Xns9B74E3786610Bd...@74.209.136.82>,
Dann <deto...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I'm afraid I was unclear. Let me try again.
>
> An artist that recycles his own gag is a plagerist?
>
> Keith Knight draws both the K Chronicles and The Knight Life.

If he ate his own flesh, would he be a cannibal?

No, really. I'm curious.

Mike Beede

Sherwood Harrington

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Dec 14, 2008, 11:30:31 PM12/14/08
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No, just disgusting.

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Wingnut

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Dec 15, 2008, 12:54:30 PM12/15/08
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"Dann" <deto...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Oops! No, that is definitely NOT plagiarism! I can't even call it lazy,
since it *has* been five years, and it *is* pretty funny...

Antonio E. Gonzalez

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Dec 15, 2008, 3:52:11 PM12/15/08
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So . . . your "big proof" is one comic out of 235, one which
recycles a pretty clever gag . . . riiight . . .

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Cedar

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Dec 15, 2008, 5:11:46 PM12/15/08
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I don't think he's a plagarist. The guy who does Cul de Sac runs a
cartooning blog
http://richardspooralmanac.blogspot.com/

And opening admits when he rips off old comics, sometimes even putting
the old side by side with the new. If it was a shameful or illegal
act, I doubt he'd be so blatant about it.

LNER...@juno.com

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Dec 15, 2008, 11:14:18 PM12/15/08
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>
> >Anyone wanna order this chap some crow sauce?
>
>   So . . . your "big proof" is one comic out of 235, one which
> recycles a pretty clever gag . . . riiight . . .
>
*As you may recall, the original issue being discussed was whether one
could judge or predict the expected content of a (supposedly) new
comic strip based on the content of the cartoonist's past production.
1 out of 265 would represent a repeat in less than a year of daily
production, and I'm not even looking for recycled material myself--
this was offered by someone else.

You know, I thought Keith Knight hung out on these Usenet forums. (I
could be wrong.) Do you suppose this very example may be why he
didn't chime in?

Look, I'm no asinine comics police. I know that every damned
cartoonist, from Berkeley Breathed to Charles Schulz to Reg Smythe to
Jim Davis to Mort Walker to Dik Browne to Charles Addams to Virgil
Partch toMark Tatulli, has recycled some good (or not so good)
material now and then. But honestly, there are some themes and traits
in cartooning that seem impossible to shake. It's pretty damned hard
(albeit not impossible) to go from raunchy material to children's
material, or from gag-a-day to continuity/drama, and in my opinion
it's damned difficult to leave left-leaning bashing of the political
"right" completely behind.

Jym Dyer

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Dec 16, 2008, 5:57:42 PM12/16/08
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>>> But any smart editor, if they're looking at his past
>>> production, will seriously have to wonder just what Knight
>>> can say once his favorite whippin' boy is out of office.

=v= Actually, I thought the strip at hand was a perfect example
of how Keith Knight could do exactly that. It's not like the
right wing has stopped spewing idiocy since Obama's election.

> So . . . your "big proof" is one comic out of 235, one which
> recycles a pretty clever gag . . . riiight . . .

=v= This didn't come up in the last flamefest (because, really,
IMHO it's not that big a deal), but one of the premises of
_The_Knight_Life_ is that the *Sunday* strips would essentially
be the weekly _K_Chronicles_. But again, so what?

=v= And again, I'll mention that Keith also still draws a weekly
overtly political strip called _(th)ink_, and I don't see anyone
freaking out that the Shrub won't be starring in it, either.
<_Jym_>

Mark Jackson

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Dec 16, 2008, 8:32:54 PM12/16/08
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Jym Dyer wrote:
> http://comics.com/the_knight_life/2008-12-14/

> =v= This didn't come up in the last flamefest (because, really,
> IMHO it's not that big a deal), but one of the premises of
> _The_Knight_Life_ is that the *Sunday* strips would essentially
> be the weekly _K_Chronicles_.

"Equivalent to" perhaps, "be" no, since The K Chronicles continues (on
Salon, for example).

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