Six Chix 25 Sep: Lame again
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
First -- The choice of who presents the joke. When was
the last time the media tried to talk *up* the
economy? Bad news sells. And it appears to be
a local happy talk anchor team. When do they
talk about the national economy at all? There
should be a politician doing the presentation
with someone else doing the punchline.
Second -- The punch line. "The Big Rock Candy Mountains"!!??
Is she aiming at the last two Burl Ives fans alive?
Ted
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Len-L
<tednolan>) opined:
>http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/sixchix.asp?date=20080925
>
>Second -- The punch line. "The Big Rock Candy Mountains"!!??
> Is she aiming at the last two Burl Ives fans alive?
Yes, and as one of them, I laughed.
Len-L
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
Sherwood Harrington
> In article <47mnd4hrbn1nlr9om...@4ax.com>,
> Len-L <len...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:56:39 GMT, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
>><tednolan>) opined:
>>
>>>http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/sixchix.asp?date=20080925
>>>
>>>Second -- The punch line. "The Big Rock Candy Mountains"!!??
>>> Is she aiming at the last two Burl Ives fans alive?
>>
>>Yes, and as one of them, I laughed.
>>Len-L
> So *you*'re the other one!
There are at least three of us, then -- a set pretty much congruent with
that of people who know what "rock candy" is.
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Rob Wynne
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J.D. Baldwin
In the previous article, Sherwood Harrington
<sherw...@SPAMrahul.net> wrote:
> >>>Second -- The punch line. "The Big Rock Candy Mountains"!!??
> >>> Is she aiming at the last two Burl Ives fans alive?
> >>
> >>Yes, and as one of them, I laughed.
> >>Len-L
>
> > So *you*'re the other one!
>
> There are at least three of us, then -- a set pretty much congruent
> with that of people who know what "rock candy" is.
I think that song got a new infusion of life a few years back when "O
Brother, Where Art Thou?" was released, and its soundtrack album was a
huge seller. Nothing to do with Burl Ives directly, of course.
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Rob Wynne
>
> In the previous article, Sherwood Harrington
> <sherw...@SPAMrahul.net> wrote:
>> >>>Second -- The punch line. "The Big Rock Candy Mountains"!!??
>> >>> Is she aiming at the last two Burl Ives fans alive?
>> >>
>> >>Yes, and as one of them, I laughed.
>> >>Len-L
>>
>> > So *you*'re the other one!
>>
>> There are at least three of us, then -- a set pretty much congruent
>> with that of people who know what "rock candy" is.
>
> I think that song got a new infusion of life a few years back when "O
> Brother, Where Art Thou?" was released, and its soundtrack album was a
> huge seller. Nothing to do with Burl Ives directly, of course.
Apropos of nothing, J.D., congrats on your appointment to that venerable
Internet institution, r.h.f.
Rich Carreiro
> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/sixchix.asp?date=20080925
>
> Second -- The punch line. "The Big Rock Candy Mountains"!!??
> Is she aiming at the last two Burl Ives fans alive?
Hey -- we live in a post-"O Brother" era. Harry McClintock,
not Burl Ives. :)
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Ted Nolan <tednolan>
Rob Wynne <d...@america.net> wrote:
>
>
>J.D. Baldwin <INVALID...@example.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> In the previous article, Sherwood Harrington
>> <sherw...@SPAMrahul.net> wrote:
>>> >>>Second -- The punch line. "The Big Rock Candy Mountains"!!??
>>> >>> Is she aiming at the last two Burl Ives fans alive?
>>> >>
>>> >>Yes, and as one of them, I laughed.
>>> >>Len-L
>>>
>>> > So *you*'re the other one!
>>>
>>> There are at least three of us, then -- a set pretty much congruent
>>> with that of people who know what "rock candy" is.
>>
>> I think that song got a new infusion of life a few years back when "O
>> Brother, Where Art Thou?" was released, and its soundtrack album was a
>> huge seller. Nothing to do with Burl Ives directly, of course.
>
>Apropos of nothing, J.D., congrats on your appointment to that venerable
>Internet institution, r.h.f.
>
>--
>Rob Wynne / The Autographed Cat / d...@america.net
Didn't know it was in Brother, and I'm pretty sure people recorded it before
Ives as well, just doubted that *any* of their fans were still alive..
Seconded! Now maybe we can haz *two* jokes a month!
Rob Wynne
> Rob Wynne <d...@america.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>J.D. Baldwin <INVALID...@example.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> In the previous article, Sherwood Harrington
>>> <sherw...@SPAMrahul.net> wrote:
>>>> >>>Second -- The punch line. "The Big Rock Candy Mountains"!!??
>>>> >>> Is she aiming at the last two Burl Ives fans alive?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Yes, and as one of them, I laughed.
>>>> >>Len-L
>>>>
>>>> > So *you*'re the other one!
>>>>
>>>> There are at least three of us, then -- a set pretty much congruent
>>>> with that of people who know what "rock candy" is.
>>>
>>> I think that song got a new infusion of life a few years back when "O
>>> Brother, Where Art Thou?" was released, and its soundtrack album was a
>>> huge seller. Nothing to do with Burl Ives directly, of course.
>>
>>Apropos of nothing, J.D., congrats on your appointment to that venerable
>>Internet institution, r.h.f.
>>
>
> Ives as well, just doubted that *any* of their fans were still alive..
>
I'm under 40, and I remember having at least one Burl Ives album as a kid.
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nickelshrink
> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/sixchix.asp?date=20080925
>
> First -- The choice of who presents the joke. When was
> the last time the media tried to talk *up* the
> economy?
Oh, my guess would be, last time
Mattel, Pfizer, Century 21, Olive Garden, Mitchum,
Kimberly-Clark, Dreamworks, Sony, Sears, iPod, GM,
La-Z-Boy, Snapper, or ShamWow sent them a check?
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nickelshrink
> Sherwood Harrington <sherw...@spamrahul.net> wrote:
>> Ted Nolan <tednolan> <t...@loft.tnolan.com> wrote:
>>> In article <47mnd4hrbn1nlr9om...@4ax.com>,
>>> Len-L <len...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:56:39 GMT, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
>>>> <tednolan>) opined:
>>>>
>>>>> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/sixchix.asp?date=20080925
>>>>>
>>>>> Second -- The punch line. "The Big Rock Candy Mountains"!!??
>>>>> Is she aiming at the last two Burl Ives fans alive?
>>>> Yes, and as one of them, I laughed.
>>>> Len-L
>>> So *you*'re the other one!
>> There are at least three of us, then -- a set pretty much congruent with
>> that of people who know what "rock candy" is.
>>
>
> I'll be number four. Can we get a fifth? I've never been one to turn down
> a fifth.
>
Got one! But you can have my fifth of that fifth.
aemeijers
> J.D. Baldwin <INVALID...@example.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> Apropos of nothing, J.D., congrats on your appointment to that venerable
> Internet institution, r.h.f.
?????
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aemeijers
Congrats, J.D., your time management skills obviously exceed mine.
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Len-L
<tednolan>) opined:
>In article <6MRCk.316$MX3...@eagle.america.net>,
>Rob Wynne <d...@america.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>J.D. Baldwin <INVALID...@example.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> In the previous article, Sherwood Harrington
>>> <sherw...@SPAMrahul.net> wrote:
>>>> >>>Second -- The punch line. "The Big Rock Candy Mountains"!!??
>>>> >>> Is she aiming at the last two Burl Ives fans alive?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Yes, and as one of them, I laughed.
>>>> >>Len-L
>>>>
>>>> > So *you*'re the other one!
>>>>
>>>> There are at least three of us, then -- a set pretty much congruent
>>>> with that of people who know what "rock candy" is.
>>>
>>> I think that song got a new infusion of life a few years back when "O
>>> Brother, Where Art Thou?" was released, and its soundtrack album was a
>>> huge seller. Nothing to do with Burl Ives directly, of course.
The soundtrack had the non-cleaned up version of Big Rock Candy
Mountain.
Len-L
Evan Kirshenbaum
> The soundtrack had the non-cleaned up version of Big Rock Candy
> Mountain.
How non-cleaned up? Just the cigarette trees and the lake of gin or
did it include the line about being "buggered sore like a hobo's
whore"?
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Mike Beede
t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) wrote:
> Didn't know it was in Brother, and I'm pretty sure people recorded it before
> Ives as well, just doubted that *any* of their fans were still alive..
I know part of the song, but I'm damned if I know why. I know
it wasn't Ives, because I never liked him. iTunes shows about
fifty or sixty versions by a variety of people I'm sure I've
never heard sing it. I *may* have actually looked up the
lyrics back when the kids were little in a thing we used to
call a "library."
The cartoon wasn't funny, though. And it was "mountain,"
not "mountains."
Now get those protractors off my lawn.
Mike Beede
racs...@gmail.com
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:58:44 GMT, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
> <tednolan>) opined:
>
>
>
>
>
> >Rob Wynne <d...@america.net> wrote:
>
> >>J.D. Baldwin <INVALID_SEE_...@example.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> >>> In the previous article, Sherwood Harrington
> >>>> >>>Second -- The punch line. "The Big Rock Candy Mountains"!!??
> >>>> >>> Is she aiming at the last two Burl Ives fans alive?
>
> >>>> >>Yes, and as one of them, I laughed.
> >>>> >>Len-L
>
> >>>> > So *you*'re the other one!
>
> >>>> There are at least three of us, then -- a set pretty much congruent
> >>>> with that of people who know what "rock candy" is.
>
> >>> I think that song got a new infusion of life a few years back when "O
> >>> Brother, Where Art Thou?" was released, and its soundtrack album was a
> >>> huge seller. Nothing to do with Burl Ives directly, of course.
>
> The soundtrack had the non-cleaned up version of Big Rock Candy
> Mountain.
Big Rock Candy Mountain, singular. You are correct, sir.
I didn't even get into the "media cheerleading for the economy" aspect
because the misquote on the title was a distraction.
Well, that plus the humming of the bees in the sugar plum trees. And
the ear worm.
Mike Peterson
http://nellieblogs.blogspot.com
Mike Beede
Mike Beede <be...@visi.com> wrote:
> The cartoon wasn't funny, though. And it was "mountain,"
> not "mountains."
Damn. In spite of my flawless memory, the oldest version I
can find (possibly the original) says "mountains," though
not in the title.
Mike Beede
Mike B
>>I think that song got a new infusion of life a few years back
>>when "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" was released, and its
>>soundtrack album was a huge seller. Nothing to do with Burl Ives
>>directly, of course.
>
> The soundtrack had the non-cleaned up version
> of Big Rock Candy Mountain.
The one with "cigarette trees" and other hobo dreams, I gather?
But I discovered even this version, the oldest I've heard, by Harry
McClintock, is sanitized. From the Wiki article on the song:
___________________________
Before recording the song, McClintock cleaned it up considerably from
the version he sang as a street busker in 1897. Originally the song
described a child being recruited into hobo life by tales of the "big
rock candy mountain". Such recruitment actually occurred, with hobos
enchanting children with tales of adventure called ghost stories by
other hobos. In proof of his authorship of the song, McClintock
published the original words, the last stanza of which was:
The punk rolled up his big blue eyes
And said to the jocker, "Sandy,
I've hiked and hiked and wandered too,
But I ain't seen any candy.
I've hiked and hiked till my feet are sore
And I'll be damned if I hike any more
To be buggered sore like a hobo's whore
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains."
George W Harris
<tednolan>) wrote:
>Second -- The punch line. "The Big Rock Candy Mountains"!!??
> Is she aiming at the last two Burl Ives fans alive?
The song "Big Rock Candy Mountain" predates Burl
Ives' birth by nearly 20 years.
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Dann
@mid.individual.net.
> Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/sixchix.asp?date=20080925
>>
>> First -- The choice of who presents the joke. When was
>> the last time the media tried to talk *up* the economy?
>
>
> Oh, my guess would be, last time
> Mattel, Pfizer, Century 21, Olive Garden, Mitchum,
> Kimberly-Clark, Dreamworks, Sony, Sears, iPod, GM,
> La-Z-Boy, Snapper, or ShamWow sent them a check?
?????
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Len-L
<kirsh...@hpl.hp.com> opined:
>Len-L <len...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> The soundtrack had the non-cleaned up version of Big Rock Candy
>> Mountain.
>
>How non-cleaned up? Just the cigarette trees and the lake of gin or
>did it include the line about being "buggered sore like a hobo's
>whore"?
Just the cigarettes and gin, which were missing from Ives' version.
Len-L
Antonio E. Gonzalez
<gha...@mundsprung.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:56:39 GMT, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
><tednolan>) wrote:
>
>>Second -- The punch line. "The Big Rock Candy Mountains"!!??
>> Is she aiming at the last two Burl Ives fans alive?
>
> The song "Big Rock Candy Mountain" predates Burl
>Ives' birth by nearly 20 years.
The one I remember was that slightly altered version done by Hootie
and the Blowfish for Burger King . . .
"The (chicken) breasts they grow on trees!"
nickelshrink
> On 25 Sep 2008, nickelshrink said the following in news:6k2akoF5q70bU2
> @mid.individual.net.
>
>> Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/sixchix.asp?date=20080925
>>>
>>> First -- The choice of who presents the joke. When was
>>> the last time the media tried to talk *up* the economy?
>>
>> Oh, my guess would be, last time
>> Mattel, Pfizer, Century 21, Olive Garden, Mitchum,
>> Kimberly-Clark, Dreamworks, Sony, Sears, iPod, GM,
>> La-Z-Boy, Snapper, or ShamWow sent them a check?
>
> ?????
>
"And now a word from our sponsor -- who wants
you to know the economy is *just fine*. Your income
isn't in jeopardy. Relax. Have an iPod. Have a dinner
out. Have a new car. Have the new Bella Swan Barbie..."
Blinky the Wonder Wombat
>
> "And now a word from our sponsor -- who wants
> you to know the economy is *just fine*. Your income
> isn't in jeopardy. Relax. Have an iPod. Have a dinner
> out. Have a new car. Have the new Bella Swan Barbie..."
>
Sorry, I'm waiting for the Bella Abzug Barbie...
Detox
> > On 25 Sep 2008, nickelshrink said the following in news:6k2akoF5q70bU2
> > @mid.individual.net.
>
> >> Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> >>>http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/sixchix.asp?date=20080925
>
> >>> First -- The choice of who presents the joke. When was
> >>> the last time the media tried to talk *up* the economy?
>
> >> Oh, my guess would be, last time
> >> Mattel, Pfizer, Century 21, Olive Garden, Mitchum,
> >> Kimberly-Clark, Dreamworks, Sony, Sears, iPod, GM,
> >> La-Z-Boy, Snapper, or ShamWow sent them a check?
>
> > ?????
>
> "And now a word from our sponsor -- who wants
> you to know the economy is *just fine*. Your income
> isn't in jeopardy. Relax. Have an iPod. Have a dinner
> out. Have a new car. Have the new Bella Swan Barbie..."
Ah. The fabulist interpretation.
Unfotunately, that flies in the face of the last couple of years of
economic reporting where it was bad news first, last, only, and
always. Where the presence of one quarter of economic contraction was
extrapolated into a full blown recession by reporters that appeared,
IMO, to be waiting on baited breath for the real thing to come along
so as to have yet another reason to criticize Mr. Bush.
The above should be taken to indicate that the economy is just fine.
Just that reporting on the economy has been skewed from reality in a
negative manner.
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Dann
Rob Wynne
> The above should be taken to indicate that the economy is just fine.
> Just that reporting on the economy has been skewed from reality in a
> negative manner.
>
I will not buy this reality. It is scratched.
nickelshrink
> The above should [ ] be taken to indicate that the economy is just fine.
Can i assume that there was supposed to be a
"not" in there?
Detox
> Detox wrote:
> > The above should [ ] be taken to indicate that the economy is just fine.
>
> Can i assume that there was supposed to be a
> "not" in there?
Jeez. Yes. Please.
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Oop, it was just Darius Rucker ("Hootie") singing, and the ad was
specifically for the Tendercrisp Chicken Cheddar Ranch; here it is . .
.:
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Mike Beede
<cfe2b386-1390-4a30...@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
Detox <deto...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Unfotunately, that flies in the face of the last couple of years of
> economic reporting where it was bad news first, last, only, and
> always. Where the presence of one quarter of economic contraction was
> extrapolated into a full blown recession by reporters that appeared,
> IMO, to be waiting on baited breath for the real thing to come along
> so as to have yet another reason to criticize Mr. Bush.
>
> The above should be taken to indicate that the economy is just fine.
> Just that reporting on the economy has been skewed from reality in a
> negative manner.
Yeah, all the people I know that are experiencing rising medical,
education, gas, housing and etc. costs are just fine--they're just
whiners being paid off by the liberal media.
Mike Beede
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
And the media have been reporting that. Perhaps over-reporting it,
but that's an opinion, and not the point of my problem with the
strip setup. Having the news anchors doing the economic
cheerleading rather than some politician or banker just doesn't
work.
Jym Dyer
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/sixchix.asp?date=20080927
<_Jym_>
Mike Beede
t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) wrote:
> And the media have been reporting that. Perhaps over-reporting it,
> but that's an opinion, and not the point of my problem with the
> strip setup. Having the news anchors doing the economic
> cheerleading rather than some politician or banker just doesn't
> work.
Oh I agree that the strip didn't make sense. I was just disputing
the "economy is fine it's just that darn Liberal Media" position.
Mike Beede
Dann
C6EBF2.152...@news.visi.com.
"The above should not be taken to indicate that the economy is just
fine."
Corrected...thanks to Ruth for pointing out the omission up thread. I
swear the 'not' was in there when I hit the 'send' button.
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
Mike Beede
Dann <deto...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Oh I agree that the strip didn't make sense. I was just disputing
> > the "economy is fine it's just that darn Liberal Media" position.
> >
> > Mike Beede
>
> "The above should not be taken to indicate that the economy is just
> fine."
>
> Corrected...thanks to Ruth for pointing out the omission up thread. I
> swear the 'not' was in there when I hit the 'send' button.
It was probably removed by the liberal internet. After all,
it's a medium, isn't it?
Mike Beede
Dann
I figured the internet was more a libertarian medium. But maybe Dan
Rather is running things now. Who knew!!
Jym Dyer
>> all, it's a medium, isn't it?
> I figured the internet was more a libertarian medium.
> But maybe Dan Rather is running things now. Who knew!!
=v= The Internet got its patina of Libertoonianism back
in the Reagan years. Employees of the tech industry,
propped up by SDI military contracts, hopped onto the
government-sponsored Internet to treat us all to their
simplistic rhetoric about unregulated free markets.
<_Jym_>
aemeijers
Usenet posters came from .edu accounts, not .com or .mil. Civilians were
still largely stuck in the BBS/Fidonet world, if they were on line at
all. Somewhere, I still have a couple of 5.25 disks where I harvested
the message traffic about the Morris worm in realtime, thinking it might
be historic some day. Suppose I oughta find those, and see if they are
still readable, assuming my one remaining 5.25 drive still works, of course.
Anybody else remember bang-path addresses?
--
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Ted Nolan <tednolan>
Oh yeah. They were great when we were using UUCP mail at USC, but after
that I got a job, and were were all about TCP/IP -- except for this one set
of systems we had to deploy to the boonies with only a modem, and I had to
do sendmail CFs to make everything *look* like RFC822, but use bang paths
internally for those systems only..
Arrgh!
J.D. Baldwin
In the previous article, Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote:
> >Anybody else remember bang-path addresses?
>
> after that I got a job, and were were all about TCP/IP -- except for
> this one set of systems we had to deploy to the boonies with only a
> modem, and I had to do sendmail CFs to make everything *look* like
> RFC822, but use bang paths internally for those systems only..
I certainly remember the bang-path, and for that matter, that syntax
still has an important use in this very medium in which we are
jabbering right now.
I watched Thursday night's "The Office" with my wife and son, and when
Jim printed out the ASCII sketch of Dwight, I paused the DVR playback
to mention the ASCII Playboy centerfolds nerds used to pass around in
the 1970s. Normally, they tolerate these little historical
digressions with equanimity, but this time they both looked at me as
if I were insane.
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\ / bal...@panix.com|to deny under oath that I ever made it.-T. Lehrer
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