Your All-Star Superman Movie
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television series out there, who would be your choices for an All-Star
movie?
Superman - Christopher Reeve, naturally. However, I liked the Clark Kent
development of L&C so I'd hope he'd play Clark more as Dean Cain would.
Lois Lane - Teri Hatcher, the best played Lois. Of course, she had to be
since she was the only one who was a centerpiece to the show instead of a
plot device. From what little I have seen of the 90's animated series, I
think I might like that Lois too.
Lex Luthor - Gene Hackman. This is a tough call: Hackman had the most
personality, John Shea was a great actor with a weak character, and Michael
Rosenbaum is the most disturbing. In the end, personality wins. I'd do away
with the 'bumbling humor' of Hackman's Lex while keeping the weasly
arrogance.
Perry White: Jackie Cooper. He was harder edged and no-nonsense, which makes
him win out over Lane Smith. I didn't see Michael McKean as Perry, so I
can't consider him.
Jimmy Olsen - Marc McClure. I liked his dorky enthusiastic kid personality
more than I liked Justin Whalen's pre-boy band wholesome cool.
Pa Kent - John Schneider. He plays a great father figure, he gets a little
preachy like Glenn Ford but he's not as hen-pecked as Eddie Jones. Plus, he
would be a great counter to...
Ma Kent - K. Callan. If she were younger, she'd be a classic soccer mom. She
was a lot of fun.
Lana Lang - Annette O'Toole. She's lucky she gets to be considered for two
roles. As far as the character goes, Kristin Kreuk just isn't what I'd
expect from Lana.
®Matthew-The Resurrected©
<do...@email.me> wrote:
>Superman - Christopher Reeve, naturally. However, I liked the Clark Kent
>development of L&C so I'd hope he'd play Clark more as Dean Cain would.
You absolute wanker.
®Matthew-The Resurrected©
<do...@email.me> wrote:
>Lois Lane - Teri Hatcher, the best played Lois. Of course, she had to be
>since she was the only one who was a centerpiece to the show instead of a
>plot device. From what little I have seen of the 90's animated series, I
>think I might like that Lois too.
You absolute wanker
M-Wolverine
> If you could mix and match actors from the different Superman movies and
> television series out there, who would be your choices for an All-Star
> movie?
>
> Superman - Christopher Reeve, naturally. However, I liked the Clark Kent
> development of L&C so I'd hope he'd play Clark more as Dean Cain would.
Definately.
> Lois Lane - Teri Hatcher, the best played Lois. Of course, she had to be
> since she was the only one who was a centerpiece to the show instead of a
> plot device. From what little I have seen of the 90's animated series, I
> think I might like that Lois too.
Really, it's the only time you can see what Superman sees in Lois
Lane.
> Lex Luthor - Gene Hackman. This is a tough call: Hackman had the most
> personality, John Shea was a great actor with a weak character, and Michael
> Rosenbaum is the most disturbing. In the end, personality wins. I'd do away
> with the 'bumbling humor' of Hackman's Lex while keeping the weasly
> arrogance.
Eh...he is good...but that humor thing might push it over the top.
I'm lovign Rsenbaum's portrayal. Would love to see him tackle the
full on evil Lex.
> Perry White: Jackie Cooper. He was harder edged and no-nonsense, which makes
> him win out over Lane Smith. I didn't see Michael McKean as Perry, so I
> can't consider him.
I kinda like Lane Smith...fun. But no complaints.
> Jimmy Olsen - Marc McClure. I liked his dorky enthusiastic kid personality
> more than I liked Justin Whalen's pre-boy band wholesome cool.
>
> Pa Kent - John Schneider. He plays a great father figure, he gets a little
> preachy like Glenn Ford but he's not as hen-pecked as Eddie Jones. Plus, he
> would be a great counter to...
>
> Ma Kent - K. Callan. If she were younger, she'd be a classic soccer mom. She
> was a lot of fun.
>
> Lana Lang - Annette O'Toole. She's lucky she gets to be considered for two
> roles. As far as the character goes, Kristin Kreuk just isn't what I'd
> expect from Lana.
So, what do you expect from Lana that she doesn't give?
Chris C.
Phillip Atcliffe
television series out there, who would be your choices for an All-Star
movie? <
There's two parts to this, as most of the people who have replied so far (we
ignore the troll) have indicated if not said outright: there's the actor --
who _looks_ the best and can play the part; and then there's the
character -- because, really, it doesn't make sense to compare a lot of the
early (pre-Crisis) portrayals with later (post-Crisis) versions,
particularly Clark and Luthor. About the only characters who haven't changed
that much are Lois and Perry. So:
Clark/Superman: Actor -- Chris Reeve; he looked the part as no-one else has,
and really nailed both the pre-Crisis Clark and Superman, even managing to
pull off with a certain amount of dignity a couple of truly bad lines that
should never have got past the script editor (e.g., the "flying is still the
safest form of transport" gag on the Planet rooftop -- did anyone else hear
the Batman theme go through their head at that bit?). Character -- Clark as
portrayed either by Dean Cain or George Reeves. Strange as it may seem, I
reckon that there was a lot of similarity between the 2 TV Clarks; above
all, they were not the nerdish klutz that Reeve played so well, but which
was so annoying. Superman -- pre-Crisis power levels and competence, and
written by someone who can cope with the concept! No more
Slightly-Above-Average-Man!
Lois: Actress -- I have a soft spot for Teri Hatcher, though most of the
other Loises -- Kidder, Delany, Coates, Neill -- could do the job well.
Character -- there's not that much difference; it's more a matter of what
she was allowed to do. So I'd hope for the kind of character development
that L&C allowed -- and yes, I'm a hopeless romantic, so I'd want something
to happen in that respect with Clark.
Luthor: Hmm... Actor -- I'm going to stick my neck out here (because I
_loathe_ Smallville) and say Rosenbaum. Hackman didn't do anything for me --
too much comedy, not enough menace -- and Shea and Brown played (well) a
character I detest, and neither of the live-action Luthors were bald most of
the time! Rosenbaum could do with bulking up a bit -- Luthor has never been
skinny -- but I'd like to see him try his hand at... Character -- pre-Crisis
Luthor! The _real_ Lex Luthor, not the modern pantywaist in his
billionaire's luxury. Luthor as written by Elliot S! Maggin -- a true foe
(and occasional ally) for the Man of Steel.
Jimmy: Actor -- Justin Whalen; he's the only Jimmy who looks the part!
McClure, Landes, Larson all did their jobs well, but they weren't Jimmy
Olsen. Character -- take your pick, just give him something to do! L&C made
good use of Jimmy by turning him into Exposition Man; the movies and AoS had
him getting into trouble, usually alongside Lois. I kinda liked Mr Action
from the comics in the 70s, but that would require an older version of
Jimmy.
Perry White: Actor -- Lane Smith or John Hamilton. Jackie Cooper is just too
small for Perry. His character was good, so I'd say add some of that edge to
the obsession and compassion that Smith showed, and you'd have an excellent
boss for the Daily Planet. The big problem would be giving him enough screen
time to make a mark as anything other than comedy relief.
The Kents -- I have a hard time seeing anyone other than Callan and Jones as
Ma and Pa. I haven't seen much of Schneider and O'Toole, but reports say
that they have to struggle with bad characterisation and lousy plots (and
Super-Jonathan will be actively ignored); not that L&C was perfect that way,
but its version of the Kents showed where Clark got his moral basis from.
You could see their son becoming Superman; I can't see Smallville's Clark
becoming _any_ sort of hero -- but I digress. Pa could do with a little more
backbone, but Schneider takes it too far; as for being hen-pecked... well,
in the comics, Pa _is_ hen-pecked, but he loves it! He's got Martha; she's
worth it.
Lana -- as an adult, Annette O'Toole; no contest. She's got the looks, she
can play the full range of emotions... she's been the best Lana I've seen,
though the animated character wasn't bad. Can't say much about Stacy Haiduk,
as Superboy had very limited showing here (UK). As a teenager... maybe the
animated character? Diane Sherry wasn't bad, but she didn't look quite right
(too blonde) and had too little screen time to make much of an impression. I
wouldn't even consider Kreuk; she's pretty, but she's not Lana Lang!
Character -- as per the immediate pre-Crisis comics (so not the snoopy,
marrying-Superman-obsessed rival for Lois); make her intelligent, forceful,
with roughly the emotional sensitivity of a brick... and with a soft spot
for Clark. Definitely do not go for the clingy post-Crisis version.
Bryan Fellows
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M-Wolverine
> "Hey That's My Bike" <do...@email.me> wrote in message
> news:PdC1c.13018$id3.5972@fed1read01...
> > If you could mix and match actors from the different Superman movies and
> television series out there, who would be your choices for an All-Star
> movie? <
>
> There's two parts to this, as most of the people who have replied so far (we
> ignore the troll) have indicated if not said outright: there's the actor --
> who _looks_ the best and can play the part; and then there's the
> character -- because, really, it doesn't make sense to compare a lot of the
> early (pre-Crisis) portrayals with later (post-Crisis) versions,
> particularly Clark and Luthor. About the only characters who haven't changed
> that much are Lois and Perry. So:
>
> Clark/Superman: Actor -- Chris Reeve; he looked the part as no-one else has,
> and really nailed both the pre-Crisis Clark and Superman, even managing to
> pull off with a certain amount of dignity a couple of truly bad lines that
> should never have got past the script editor (e.g., the "flying is still the
> safest form of transport" gag on the Planet rooftop -- did anyone else hear
> the Batman theme go through their head at that bit?). Character -- Clark as
> portrayed either by Dean Cain or George Reeves. Strange as it may seem, I
> reckon that there was a lot of similarity between the 2 TV Clarks; above
> all, they were not the nerdish klutz that Reeve played so well, but which
> was so annoying. Superman -- pre-Crisis power levels and competence, and
> written by someone who can cope with the concept! No more
> Slightly-Above-Average-Man!
I'm getting the feeling you haven't let go of Pre-Crisis Superman
yet.... ;)
> Lois: Actress -- I have a soft spot for Teri Hatcher, though most of the
> other Loises -- Kidder, Delany, Coates, Neill -- could do the job well.
> Character -- there's not that much difference; it's more a matter of what
> she was allowed to do. So I'd hope for the kind of character development
> that L&C allowed -- and yes, I'm a hopeless romantic, so I'd want something
> to happen in that respect with Clark.
I just don't see Superman falling for any of the other actresses.
Maybe Delany, who would have been a good Lois, but, she was only the
voice....
> Luthor: Hmm... Actor -- I'm going to stick my neck out here (because I
> _loathe_ Smallville) and say Rosenbaum. Hackman didn't do anything for me --
> too much comedy, not enough menace -- and Shea and Brown played (well) a
> character I detest,
Why do you detest that/their character?
and neither of the live-action Luthors were bald most of
> the time! Rosenbaum could do with bulking up a bit -- Luthor has never been
> skinny -- but I'd like to see him try his hand at... Character -- pre-Crisis
> Luthor! The _real_ Lex Luthor, not the modern pantywaist in his
> billionaire's luxury.
Well...I don't know how much muscles is going to help when you a human
and your opponent is Superman.
Luthor as written by Elliot S! Maggin -- a true foe
> (and occasional ally) for the Man of Steel.
Not a big fan of the Life and Times of Lex Luthor, eh?
> Jimmy: Actor -- Justin Whalen; he's the only Jimmy who looks the part!
> McClure, Landes, Larson all did their jobs well, but they weren't Jimmy
> Olsen. Character -- take your pick, just give him something to do! L&C made
> good use of Jimmy by turning him into Exposition Man; the movies and AoS had
> him getting into trouble, usually alongside Lois. I kinda liked Mr Action
> from the comics in the 70s, but that would require an older version of
> Jimmy.
True...he's the only one who came off as a kid. But he was a bit of a
boy band pretty boy, which doesn't really fit Jimmy.
> Perry White: Actor -- Lane Smith or John Hamilton. Jackie Cooper is just too
> small for Perry.
Perry's got to be big? Sitting behind a desk?
His character was good, so I'd say add some of that edge to
> the obsession and compassion that Smith showed, and you'd have an excellent
> boss for the Daily Planet. The big problem would be giving him enough screen
> time to make a mark as anything other than comedy relief.
>
> The Kents -- I have a hard time seeing anyone other than Callan and Jones as
> Ma and Pa.
In my first post, I didn't think of them in the show, really. They
were great in it. Particularly Ma. Definately the best Ma Kent out
there. Saw a lot of my mom in her. She had it nailed.
I haven't seen much of Schneider and O'Toole, but reports say
> that they have to struggle with bad characterisation and lousy plots (and
> Super-Jonathan will be actively ignored); not that L&C was perfect that way,
> but its version of the Kents showed where Clark got his moral basis from.
> You could see their son becoming Superman; I can't see Smallville's Clark
> becoming _any_ sort of hero -- but I digress.
Definately!
Pa could do with a little more
> backbone, but Schneider takes it too far; as for being hen-pecked... well,
> in the comics, Pa _is_ hen-pecked, but he loves it! He's got Martha; she's
> worth it.
>
> Lana -- as an adult, Annette O'Toole; no contest. She's got the looks, she
> can play the full range of emotions... she's been the best Lana I've seen,
> though the animated character wasn't bad.
Again, I didn't make this clear enough before...she was an EXCELLENT
Lana. How many people wanted to see Clark end up with Lana, rather
than Lois? Hands? (Another problem with Kidder's Lois).
Can't say much about Stacy Haiduk,
> as Superboy had very limited showing here (UK). As a teenager... maybe the
> animated character? Diane Sherry wasn't bad, but she didn't look quite right
> (too blonde) and had too little screen time to make much of an impression. I
> wouldn't even consider Kreuk; she's pretty, but she's not Lana Lang!
But...WHY?
> Character -- as per the immediate pre-Crisis comics (so not the snoopy,
> marrying-Superman-obsessed rival for Lois); make her intelligent, forceful,
> with roughly the emotional sensitivity of a brick... and with a soft spot
> for Clark. Definitely do not go for the clingy post-Crisis version.
Hmmm...I know what era you're coming from...but....how does the
forceful with roughly the emotional sensitivity of a brick Lana really
fit in with the character who O'Toole played in Superman 3? Really,
it sounds like you're describing Lois more. Lana in the movie was
sensitive, caring, maybe too much so, so she was vulnerable. Not at
all your Pre-Crisis description of her.
Chris C.
John Duncan Yoyo
>I'm getting the feeling you haven't let go of Pre-Crisis Superman
>yet.... ;)
There was a post Crisis Superman? I thought he ended in eighties.
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> If you could mix and match actors from the different Superman movies and
> television series out there, who would be your choices for an All-Star
> movie?
> Superman -
Kirk Allyn
> Lois Lane - Teri Hatcher
sure
> Lex Luthor -
Lyle Talbot
> Perry White:
The one who just played him in "Smallville".
> Jimmy Olsen - Marc McClure. I liked his dorky enthusiastic kid personality
> more than I liked Justin Whalen's pre-boy band wholesome cool.
Depends how the character needs to be played for the movie. They've
screwed around with that character so much, it's hard to pick
objectively.
> Pa Kent - John Schneider
beats the others
> Ma Kent - K. Callan.
OK
> Lana Lang - Annette O'Toole
yes
Robert
Dough
> television series out there, who would be your choices for an All-Star
> movie?
Since I've been recently transfering my video Superboy episodes over to
digital, I'd like to throw Gerard Christopher's and Sherman Howard's names
into this mix! Christopher's depiction of both Superboy and Clark were dead
on and Howard was incredible as Luthor!
Strangely enough, when WB was casting Lois & Clark, Gerard went in for the
part, blew the producers away, had it nailed down... until they learned that
he'd already played the part! Next thing her knew, he was outy and Dean was
in!
Glenn Simpson
Look, we don't go to your "products of inbreeding" Usenet support
group and make fun of you, so lay off the stupid comments in here...
The only thing more pathetic than people who are too into something is
people who aren't into ANYTHING and therefore have nothing better to
do than make fun of the first people.
I think people on the Charmed board are pretty freaky - so I don't go
there.
Mr. Obvious
So we aren't allowing kids to post anmymore?
I don't think this kid's the wanker.
Mr. Obvious
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I'd rather speculate on the new movie....
Supes: Tom Welling, of course. At his true age, he could go older
with a minimal amount of makeup. Second choice is another veteran to
the role, Dean Cain, although he wouldn't age well for potential
sequels.
Lois Lane: Coutney Cox is a tad oldish for the part, though she is
very well preserved. Would have been perfect a few years ago. Go
younger, Rachel Weisz has just the sort of edge that Margot Kidder
brought to the role.
Lex Luthor: Bruce Willis. He can play stilted or understated depending
on the script. Very under-rated as an actor.
The Kents: The current ones, natch... They wouldn't need to play too
much older.
Perry White: Martin Sheen.
Jimmy Olsen: NOT Chris Rock. Give me a household appliance, anything
but Chris Rock. The kid from Married with Children pops to mind if he
has aged well.
John Adcox
whats-her-name from Superboy for Lana, and Jimmy from the old George Reeves TV
series, and Lex from Smallville. Fun topic!
John
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stephen voss
but I will do the supporting cast
Lois Lane- Neve Campbell. I want my lois to be chain smoking and bitter.
Lois Lane should not be obviously drop dead gorgeous...which is why Teri
is wrong for the role. She should look like a reporter complete with bad
hair days, overworked and overstressed.
That doesnt mean she cant be beautiful but if you want the women in
the audience to relate to her she
needs to be a real woman who isnt model gorgeous 24/7. Lois is a tough
girl but she needs to be rescued both physically and emotionally.
What would drive a hard driven reporter to fall in love with a
super powered boy scout? Well the thing I could think of is that
superman fills an emotional need in her to believe in someone.
Perry White- Samuel L Jackson... yes a black man as perry white...he
captures Perry Whites personality better than just about any white actor
I know.
Jimmy olsen- Sean Hayes
Lex Luthor- William Shatner. I figure the hammier the better.
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> Im not even going to try to cast superman
> but I will do the supporting cast
>
> captures Perry Whites personality better than just about any white actor
> I know.
>
I like the Samuel L. Jackson idea. He is a great actor, so could carry off
any role, including Perry White. As well, he has the kind of screen presence
that is just riveting.
As to William Shatner, I don't see it. I want my Luthor to be intelligent
and menacing, with a charming veneer. I would like to see Clancy Brown (?),
the voice of Lex in the animated series, play the role in the movie. He
could do the role well and is old enough to highlight the age difference
between the character while still being a physical presence.
stephen voss
>
> I like the Samuel L. Jackson idea. He is a great actor, so could carry off
> any role, including Perry White. As well, he has the kind of screen presence
> that is just riveting.
>
> As to William Shatner, I don't see it. I want my Luthor to be intelligent
> and menacing, with a charming veneer. I would like to see Clancy Brown (?),
> the voice of Lex in the animated series, play the role in the movie. He
> could do the role well and is old enough to highlight the age difference
> between the character while still being a physical presence.
>
>
Samuel L Jackson is probably one of the few actors who could
give Perry White flavor and credibility.
I was being a bit silly with the Shatner suggestion.
However thinking of people Samuel L. Jackson has worked with...
Why not John Travolta as Lex Luthor...hes done good villains before.
(no im talking about battlefield earth!)
Super-Menace
<vos...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
I hate casting threads. But here I go anyway.
Brian Dennehy for Lex Luthor. Charming menace, as well as something
new and fresh.
Samuel L. Jackson is the right age for Perry and can deliver the
authority.
Can we please have adults play Superman and Lois this time? I mean,
people in their 30s?
I'm still hoping for a director who understands Superman and why he
works.
Rinuccio4
presence.
I think that, Physically, James Marsden is a great candidate for Supes.
Whether he can give a decent distinction between S and CK would be the real
test.
I would love to see a really sexy Lois... Margot Kidder didn't do it for me.
My suggestion would be Lauren Graham from the Gilmore Girls.
BatKnight
John Adcox
Sigh.