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2002 SQUIDDY WINNERS--COMPLETE RESULTS (RAC.misc, RAC.dc.universe, RAC.marvel.universe, RAC.marvel.xbooks)

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And for the detail-oriented, here is the long form of the 2002 Squiddy
Winners:

CREATOR CATEGORIES
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BEST COMICS WRITER OF 2002
18: Brian Michael Bendis
7: Geoff Johns, Alan Moore
5: John Wagner
4: Mike Carey, Peter David, Christopher Priest, Brian K. Vaughan
3: Darby Conley
2: Carla Speed McNeil, Grant Morrison, Kevin Smith
1: Chuck Austen, Chester Brown, Ed Brubaker, John Byrne, Chris
Claremont, Gilbert Hernandez, Jaime Hernandez, Jay Hosler, David
Lapham, Batton Lash, A. David Lewis, Jeph Loeb, Dave McKean, Mike
Mignola, Peter Milligan, Myatt Murphy, Greg Rucka, Dave Sim, Dan Slott,
Mark Stanley, Mark Waid, Andi Watson, Brian Wood, Micah Wright

BEST COMICS PENCILER OF 2002
8: J.H. Williams III
6: Bryan Hitch
5: Timothy Truman
4: John Cassaday
3: Alan Davis, Phil Foglio
2: Mark Bagley, M.D. Bright, Carlos Ezquerra, Henry Flint, Min S. Ku,
Salvador Larroca, Alex Maleev, Eric Shanower, Andi Watson
1: Art Adams, Chris Bachalo, John Byrne, Chynna Clugston-Major, Darby
Conley, Darwyn Cooke, Jason Copland, Jan Duursema, Dale Eaglesham, Tom
Grummett, Pia Guerra, Gene Ha, Phil Hester, Bill Holbrook, Jay Hosler,
Stuart Immonen, Fraser Irving, Georges Jeanty, Phil Jimenez, Staz
Johnson, Leonard Kirk, Greg Land, Michael Lark, Tim Levins, Brooke
McEldowney, Mike Mignola, Rags Morales, Carlos Pacheco, Frank Quitely,
Budd Root, Steve Rude, P. Craig Russell, Tim Sale, Dave Sim, Walt
Simonson, Mark Texiera, Sal Velluto, Leinil Yu

BEST COMICS INKER OF 2002
7: Bob Almond, Mark Farmer
5: Timothy Truman
4: Henry Flint, P. Craig Russell
2: Gerhard, Mick Gray, Sam Keith, Michael Lark, Art Thibert, Tim
Townsend, Scott Williams, No Award
1: Michael Bair, Terry Beatty, Charles Burns, John Byrne, Cory Carani,
Chynna Clugston-Major, Mike DeCarlo, Will Eisner, Richard Friend, Drew
Geraci, Manuel Gutierrez, Mark Heike, Karl Kesel, Scott Koblish, Steve
Leialoha, Alex Maleev, Carla Speed McNeil, Darren Merinuk, Mike
Mignola, Danny Miki, Paul Neary, Andy Owens, Jimmy Palmiotti, Mark
Pennington, Mike Perkins, Paul Pope, Stan Sakai, Bob Smith, Dexter
Vines, Andi Watson, Kent Williams

BEST COMICS PAINTER OF 2002
14: Alex Ross
5: David Mack, Leonardo Manco, J.H. Williams III
3: Brian Bolland, John Burns, Greg Horn, Phil Noto, Matt Wagner
2: Jane Irwin, James Jean, Ash Wood
1: John Byrne, Travis Charest, Simon Davis, Carlos Ezquerra, Juan
Gimenez, Mark Harrison, Dave Johnson, Christopher Moeller, Scott Morse,
John J. Muth, Glen Orbik, Brian Stelfreeze, Ben Templesmith, No Award

BEST COMICS LETTERER OF 2002
19: Todd Klein
10: Dave Sim
7: Tom Frame
5: Tom Orzechowski
3: Chris Eliopoulos, John Workman
2: Kurt Hathaway, Richard Starkings
1: Wes Abbott, John Byrne, Dan Cooney, John Costanza, Jenna Garcia,
Paul Grist, Jaime Hernandez, Dave Lanphear, Bill Oakley, Stan Sakai,
Larry Young, Thom Zahler, No Award

BEST COMICS COLORIST OF 2002
14: Laura DePuy Martin
4: Chris Blythe, Tom McCraw
3: Matt Hollingsworth, Richard Isanove, Patricia Mulvihill
2: Laura Allred, Moose Baumann, Jeromy Cox, John Kalisz, Terrence
Marks, Paul Mounts, Peter Pantazis, Alex Sinclair, Tom Smith, Chris
Sotomayor
1: Jordan Crane, Ben Digmaliw, John Higgins, Jason Keith, Lovern
Kindzierski, Tom Luth, Guy Major, Kevin O'Neill, Pam Rambo, Wilson
Ramos, Dave Stewart, Dave Tanguay, Tyson Wengler, David Yurkovich, No
Award

BEST COMICS CREATIVE TEAM OF 2002
5: Los Bros Hernandez (Love & Rockets), Millar/Hitch/Currie (The
Ultimates), Milligan/Allred/Allred (X-Statix),
Moore/Williams/Gray/Cox/Klein (Promethea)
4: David/Nauck (Young Justice), Wagner/Ezquerra (Judge Dredd)
3: Bendis/Bagley/Thibert (Ultimate Spider-Man), David/Cross/Sotomayor
(Captain Marvel), Foglio/Foglio/McNabb (Girl Genius), Moore/O'Neill
(League of Extraordinary Gentlemen), Vaughn/Guerra (Y The Last Man)
2: Bendis/Oeming/Pantazis (Powers),
Claremont/Larroca/Liquid!/Orzechowski (X-Treme X-Men),
Johns/Kolins/Hazlewood (The Flash), Priest/Velluto/Almond (Black
Panther), Sim/Gerhard (Cerebus), Simonson/Wiacek/Workman (Orion),
Spears/G. (Teenagers from Mars), Wagner/Irving (2000AD),
Waid/Guice/DePuy (Ruse)
1: Azzarello/Risso/Johnson (100 Bullets), Bendis/Maleev (Daredevil),
Brubaker/Rucka/Lark/et.al (Gotham Central), Carey/Gross/Ormston/Kelly
(Lucifer), Cooke/Bone (Tangled Web #11), Diggle/Jock (Lenny Zero),
Gilchrist/Gilchrist (Nancy), Johns/Goyer/Kirk (JSA),
Johns/Robinson/Morales/Bair (Hawkman), Lee/Byrne/Austin/Sinclair (JIST
Robin), Lewis/Copland/Quiring/et. al. (Mortal Coils), Millar/Bachalo
(Ultimate War), Murphy/Dalrymple (Fade From Blue), Rucka/Fernandez
(Queen & Country), Slott/Ku (Justice League Adventures), Vankin/Fisher
(Vertigo Pop Tokyo), Yurkovich/Pinchley (Altercations)

BEST COMICS COVER ARTIST OF 2002
14: Kaare Andrews
12: Brian Bolland
5: Matt Wagner
4: J.G. Jones
3: Adam Hughes, Dave Johnson, Salvador Larroca
2: Tim Bradstreet, Frank Cho, Phil Moy, Phil Noto, Kevin O'Neill,
Carlos Segura, J.H. Williams III
1: Chester Brown, John Byrne, Eddie Campbell, Mark Crilley, Seth
Fisher, Gilbert Hernandez, Jaime Hernandez, James Jean, Clint Langley,
Jim Lee, Mike Mayhew, Mike Mignola, Phil Morrissey, Cliff Robinson,
Greg Staples, Maria Sundqvist, Andi Watson, No Award

BEST COMICS EDITOR OF 2002
12: Axel Alonso
11: Tom Brevoort
8: Jamie S. Rich
5: Karen Berger, Matt Smith (Tharg)
3: Ralph Macchio, Bob Schreck, Steve Wacker
2: Alan Barnes, Eddie Berganza, Mike Marts, Jeff Mason, Dan Raspler
1: Scott Allie, Shelly Bond, Mike Carlin, Mark Chiarello, Bob
Greenberger, Andrew Helfer, John Layman, Heidi McDonald, Peter Tomasi,
Larry Young

BEST POLITICAL CARTOONIST OF 2002
8: Aaron McGruder (The Boondocks)
6: No Award
5: Tom Toles (The Washington Post)
4: Steve Bell (The Guardian), Tom Tomorrow aka Dan Perkins (This Modern
World)
3: Ruben Bolling (Tom The Dancing Bug), Garry Trudeau (Doonesbury)
2: Jim Borgman (The Cincinnati Enquirer)
1: Clay Bennett (The Christian Science Monitor), Gary Brookins (The
Richmond Times-Dispatch), Johnny Hart (B.C.), Al Jaffee (Mad Magazine),
Peter Kuper (Topsy Turvy), Tom Lubbock (The Independent), Doug Marlette
(Newsday), Pat Oliphant, Terho Ovaska, Ted Rall (Universal Press
Syndicate)


BOOK AND STORY CATEGORIES
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BEST COMICS SHORT STORY OF 2002
3: Fantastic Four #60 ("Inside Out"), Transmetropolitan (#60 "One More
Time"), Y: The Last Man #1 ("Unmanned")
2: 2000AD #1280 ("Judge Dredd: Leaving Rowdy"), 2000AD #1319 ("Judge
Dredd: After Hours"), Automatic Kafka #4 ("L'il Folks"), Captain Marvel
#2 ("Shock Absorber"), Dork Tower #18 ("Understanding Gamers"), Justice
League Adventures #13 ("Local Hero"), September 11 ("This is
Information"), Ultimate Spider-Man #28 ("Sidetracked"), No Award
1: 2000AD ("Judge Dredd: Bad Manners"), 9-11: Emergency Relief
("Untitled" by Jessica Abel), Avengers #56 ("Lo, There Shall Come... an
Accounting"), Avengers #62 ("Broken Hearts"), Collier's v2 #1 ("Dennis
Cote' was Bad & Good"), Femforce #116 ("Tara"), Fred the Clown #4 ("The
Shoulders of Giants"), Global Frequency #1 ("Bombhead"), Lab Rats #1
("Game Space"), Lost Tales of Erin ("A Father's Challenge"), Love &
Rockets #5 ("Bay of Threes"), Love & Rockets #6 ("30,000 Hours to
Kill"), Lucifer #28 ("Breaking and Entering"), Marvel Double Shot #2
("The Roots of All Evil"), Midnight, Mass. #2 ("The Edge of
Civilization Part One"), Mortal Coils #1 ("Disembodiment"), Oni Press
Color Special 2002 ("The Operation"), September 11 ("America's
Pastime"), September 11 ("The Job"), September 11 ("There Were Tears in
Her Eyes"), Spider-Man's Tangled Web #11 ("Open All Night"),
Spider-Man's Tangled Web #12 ("I Was a Teenage Frog-Man"), Spider-Man's
Tangled Web #14 ("The Last Shoot"), Star Wars Tales #11 ("Ghost"),
Superman: Man of Steel #129 ("You Can't Be Everywhere At Once"),
Supernatural Law #35 ("Words Can't Do IT Justice"), The Filth #3
("Structures and Ultrastructures"), X-Treme X-Men #19 ("Passages")

BEST COMICS NOVELLA OF 2002
6: Ultimate Spider-Man Special #1
5: Orion #25 ("The Children of the Pact")
4: Lucifer: Nirvana, The Pro
3: The Amazing Screw-On Head, Dumped, Hulk: The End, War Story: J for
Jenny
2: Red Star: Run Makita Run
1: Blue Monday: Lovecats, JLA: Shogun of Steel, Just Imagine Stan Lee's
Robin, Max Hamm: Fairy Tale Detective, Murder Mysteries, Nightwing #75
("Judgment Day"), Saiko & Lavender Spooktacular Special #1, Stray
Bullets #26 ("Wild Strawberries Can't be Broken"), The Stuff of Dreams,
Valentine #8 ("Red Rain Part 2"), Will Eisner's Sundiata, No Award

BEST ORIGINAL GRAPHIC NOVEL OF 2002
15: JLA/JSA: Virtue and Vice
4: Catwoman: Selina's Big Score, King David, Sparks: An Urban Fairytale
3: Creature Tech, No Award
2: Bigg Time, Human Target: Final Cut, Lucifer: The Furies, Phoenix: A
Tale of the Future, Tales of the Slayers
1: Baja, Blood Song, Courageous Princess 3: Kingdom of Leptia, Louis:
The Clown's Last Words, Rosemary's Backpack, Stylish Vittles: I Met a
Girl, Wonder Woman: The Hiketeia

BEST MULTI-PART STORY OF 2002
6: Black Panther #41-45 ("Enemy of the State II"), Y: The Last Man #1-5
("Unmanned")
5: Fables #1-5 ("Legends in Exile")
3: 2000AD #1322-1325 ("Nikolai Dante: Hell and High Water"), Daredevil
#32-37 ("Out"), Finder #23-29 ("Dream Sequence")
2: 100 Bullets #31-36 ("The Counterfifth Detective"), 2000 AD
#1300-1306 ("The V.C.'s: Peace Day"), League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Volume 2, Lucifer #29-32 ("Inferno"), New X-Men #118-126 ("Imperial"),
Noble Causes #1-4 ("Who Killed Race Noble?"), Skinwalker #1-4,
Transmetropolitan #55-57 ("Headlong")
1: Black Panther #46-47 ("Saddles Ablaze"), Black Panther #48-49
("Death of the Black Panther"), Black Panther #50-56 ("Black and
White"), Cerebus #282-? ("Chasing YHWH"), Edge City March 18-30
("Passover"), Get Fuzzy August 2002 ("Judge Judy"), Girl Genius #4-8
("Castle Wulfenbach"), Hawkman #5-6 ("Slings and Arrows"), JLA #69-75
("Obsidian Age"), JSA #33-37 ("Stealing Thunder"), Lab Rats #4-6
("Tomorrow Was a Long Time Ago..."), Lone Wolf & Cub, Powers #15-20
("Supergroup"), Sandwalk Adventures #1-5, Star Wars #42-45 ("Rite of
Passage"), Supergirl #69-74, Superman ? ("Ending Battle"), Thor #50-?
("Lord of Asgard"), Titans #45-46 ("Ghost Dance"), Ultimate Spider-Man
#29-32, Ultimate X-Men #16-19 ("World Tour"), Ultimates #1-4, Valentine
#7-8 ("Red Rain"), X-Force #125-128 ("Death of Edie Sawyer"), X-Treme
X-Men #10-17 ("Invasion from Dimension X"), X-Treme X-Men: X-Pose #1-2,
Zero Girl: Full Circle #1-5

BEST COMIC SERIES OF 2002
7: Lucifer
4: Black Panther, X-Statix
3: Finder, Get Fuzzy, Green Arrow, Judge Dredd, Promethea, Queen &
Country, The Ultimates, Ultimate Spider-Man
2: Alias, Amelia Rules!, Daredevil, Justice League Adventures, Love &
Rockets, Powers, Stray Bullets, Young Justice
1: 100 Bullets, Action Comics, Age of Bronze, Akiko, Batman, Catwoman,
Cerebus, Femforce, Girl Genius, Hawkman, JSA, Lab Rats, Leave It to
Chance, Lone Wolf & Cub, Luba, New X-Men, Nikolai Dante, Patty Cake &
Friends, Sojourn, Supernatural Law, Thieves & Kings, Thor, Tom Strong,
Transmetropolitan, Uncanny X-Men, Valentine, X-Treme X-Men

BEST NEW COMIC SERIES OF 2002
15: Y: The Last Man
10: Fables, Hawkman
8: The Ultimates
4: Gotham Central
3: Captain Marvel, Eddie Campbell's Egomania
2: Agent X, Halo & Sprocket, Rex Mundi, X-Statix
1: 21 Down, Aquaman, Captain America, Fade From Blue, Global Frequency,
Lab Rats, Mortal Coils, Paradigm, Stormwatch: Team Achilles, The Power
Company, Way of the Rat, Wildcats Version 3.0

BEST LIMITED COMIC SERIES OF 2002
6: Apache Skies
5: 100%, The Hood, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Volume 2
4: Midnight, Mass.
3: Killraven, Mekanix, Sandwalk Adventures, Slow News Day
2: Batman: Family, Global Frequency, Hellblazer Special: Lady
Constantine, Hellboy: The Third Wish, Midnight Nation, Teenagers from
Mars
1: Altercations, Black Hole, Deadline, Futurama/Simpsons, Green
Lantern: Evil's Might, Greyshirt: Indigo Sunset, Hopeless Savages:
Ground Zero, Louis Riel, Marvel Icons: Chamber, Masters of the
Universe, Origin, Sandman Presents: The Thessaliad, Skinwalker,
Superman: Day of Doom, The Thing: Freakshow, Transformers: The War
Within, Two Over Ten, Vertigo Pop: London, Vertigo Pop: Tokyo, Zero
Girl: Full Circle

BEST COMIC REPRINT COLLECTION OF 2002
5: Absolute Authority
4: Green Arrow: Quiver
3: Doom Patrol Archives, Essential Ant-Man
2: Amazing Spider-Man: Revelations, Amy Unbounded: Belondweg
Blossoming, Crisis on Multiple Earths, Daredevil: Parts of a Hole,
Daredevil: Underboss, Krazy & Ignatz Complete 1927-28, Marshall Law:
Fear and Loathing, Sugar & Spike #1 Replica Edition, White Death
1: After the Snooter, All-Star Archives Volume 8, Annotated Mantooth,
Beg the Question, Black Panther: Enemy of the State, Bone: Treasure
Hunters, Boulevard of Broken Dreams, Daredevil Vol. 2 HC, Dark Knight
Strikes Again, Desert Peach: Seven Peaches, Edge #9, Enemy Ace
Archives, Essential Daredevil, Five Star Stories #1, GI Joe Volume 4,
Jack Staff: Yesterday's Heroes, Liberty Meadows Eden, Lucifer: A
Dalliance With The Damned, Men of Mystery #37, One! Hundred! Demons!,
Piled Higher & Deeper, Promethea Volume 3, PVP Hat Trick, Ring of the
Nieblung, Shazam! Family Annual, Strontium Dog: Portrait of a Mutant,
Summer of Love, The Complete Copybook Tales, The Cursed Earth, X-Men
Visionaries: Jim Lee

BEST ANTHOLOGY OF 2002
11: September 11 (DC/Dark Horse/Image/Chaos)
6: 2000AD, 9-11: Emergency Relief (Alternative Comics)
4: Tom Strong's Terrific Tales
3: EXPO 2002
2: The Comics Journal Special Edition Summer 2002, No Award
1: Aku Ankka (Finnish Donald Duck weekly), Altercations, Digital
Webbing Presents, Edge, Femforce #115, Love & Rockets, Metabarons:
Alpha/Omega, Oni Press Color Special 2002, Pulp, Reveal, Smallville,
Tales of the Slayers, Tomorrow Stories, Ultimate Spider-Man Special,
Viz Comic, World Class Comics #1, Worlds Apart, X-Men Unlimited

BEST COMIC STRIP OF 2002
10: The Boondocks (Aaron McGruder)
8: Dilbert (Scott Adams)
6: For Better or For Worse (Lynn Johnston), Get Fuzzy (Darby Conley)
5: Mutts (Pat McDonnell)
4: Judge Dredd
3: Doonesbury (Garry Trudeau), Foxtrot (Bill Amend)
2: Dork Tower (John Kovalic), If (Steve Bell), Story Minute (Carol
Lay), Zits (Jerry Scott & Jim Borgman), No Award
1: Amazing Spider-Man (Stan Lee & Larry Lieber), Bullpen Bits (Chris
Giarusso), Frazz (Jef Mallett), Garfield (Jim Davis), On the Fastrack
(Bill Holbrook), One Big Happy (Rick Detorie), Pathetic Geek Stories
(Maria Schneider), Piranha Club (Bud Grace), Rose Is Rose (Pat Brady)

BEST WEB COMIC OF 2002
5: Gravers (www.opi8.com)
4: PvP (www.pvponline.com), No Award
3: Kevin and Kell (www.herdthinners.com)
3: Knights of the Dinner Table (www.kenzerco.com)
3: Pibgorn (www.comics.com/comics/pibgorn)
2: Penny Arcade (www.penny-arcade.com)
1: The Adventures of Dan (taodan.keenspace.com)
1: Brother Matthew (www.rexmundi.net)
1: College Roomies From Hell (www.crfh.net)
1: Crater Kid (www.craterkid.com)
1: Death Takes a Holiday (www.nextcomics.com)
1: Delta Thrives (www.e-sheep.com/delta)
1: Dr. Fun (www.ibiblio.org/Dave/drfun.html)
1: Eagle DNA (eagledna.keenspace.com)
1: The Hand We're Dealt (www.opi8.com)
1: It's Walky! (www.itswalky.com)
1: Monkey Man (www.moviepoopshoot.com/monkeyman/)
1: Morning Improv (www.scottmccloud.com)
1: Nowhere Girl (www.nowheregirl.com)
1: Pulling (www.smallstoriesonline.com)
1: Red Meat (www.redmeat.com)
1: Same Difference (www.smallstoriesonline.com)
1: Sinfest (www.sinfest.net)
1: Sluggy Freelance (www.sluggy.com)
1: Something Positive (www.somethingpositive.net)
1: Soul Less (24.ninthart.com/rich)
1: Terranauts (www.adventurestrips.com)
1: WIGU (www.wigu.com)
1: The World is Our Icebox (www.flyingcar.com)


OTHER CATEGORIES
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BEST COMPANY OR IMPRINT OF 2002
18: DC Comics
15: Marvel Comics
8: Oni Press
7: DC/Vertigo
5: DC/America's Best Comics
4: CrossGen
3: Fantagraphics, Rebellion
2: AiT/PlanetLar, DC/Wildstorm, Dork Storm Press, Top Shelf
1: Aardvark-Vanaheim, AC Comics, Active Synapse, Bongo Comics, Eddie
Campbell Comics, Image Comics, Plan Nine Publishing, Red Eye Press, No
Award

BEST COMIC CHARARACTER OF 2002
6: Judge Dredd
4: Daredeveil, Spider Jerusalem (Transmetropolitan)
3: Agatha Clay (Girl Genius), "Happy Pants" Panther (Black Panther),
Usagi Yojimbo
2: Bucky (Get Fuzzy), Catwoman, Manitou Raven (JLA), Oliver Queen
(Green Arrow), Peter Parker (Spider-Man), Tom Strong, Ultimate
Spider-Man
1: Arsenal, Arwyn (Sojourn), Baron Klaus Wulfenbach (Girl Genius),
Bigby Wolf (Fables), Black Panther, Cerebus, Cub, Dana Valentine
(Valentine), Dr. Juliette Burber (9 Chickweed Lane), Drusilla
(Pibgorn), Edie Sawyer (X-Force), Everett Ross (Black Panther), Gaudium
(Lucifer), Hal Jordan, Hawkman, Hellblazer, Jade, Jennifer (My Monkey's
Name Is Jennifer), Jessica Jones (Alias), Juggernaut, Kara Zor-El
(Supergirl), Kasper Cole (Black Panther), Kevin Dewclaw (Kevin & Kell),
Kitty Pryde, Loo (Little White Mouse), Luba (Love & Rockets), Lucky
Ducky (Tom the Dancing Bug), Mara (Sandwalk Adventures), Mavis
(Supernatural Law), Millie Mudd (Ozy & Millie), Mr. Terrific, Nikolai
Dante, Orion, Penny Century (Love & Rockets), Popo the Monkey (Way of
the Rat), Roy (Love & Rockets), Satchel (Get Fuzzy), Sgt. Fury,
Starfire (The Titans), Storm, Superman, Superman (Lab Rats), Wally West
(The Flash), Wonder Woman, Xorn (New X-Men)

BEST COMIC CHARACTER TEAM OF 2002
6: JSA (Justice Society of America), The Ultimates
5: X-Statix, Young Justice
4: Amelia Rules! (cast of), Get Fuzzy (cast of)
3: Birds of Prey, New X-Men, Queen & Country (cast of), The V.C.s
2: Love & Rockets (cast of), Planetary, The Legion of Super-Heroes,
Thunderbolts, X-Treme X-Men
1: Black Panther (cast of), College Roomies from Hell (cast of),
Daredevil (cast of), Diggers sisters (Gold Digger), Doom Patrol,
Exiles, Fade From Blue (cast of), Fantastic Four, Femforce, Girl Genius
(cast of), Howling Commandos, JLA, Kevin & Kell Dewclaw (Kevin & Kell),
Lab Rats, Lone Wolf & Cub (cast of), Patty Cake (cast of), Powerpuff
Girls (cast of), Strangers in Paradise (cast of), The Establishment,
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, The Resistance, The Titans,
Wolff & Byrd (Supernatural Law), X-Force/X-Factor, X-Men

BEST COMICS-RELATED STORY (TV/FILM/PERFORMANCE) OF 2002
29: Spider-Man (Live Action Motion Picture, Columbia Pictures)
11: Smallville (Live Action TV Series, WB)
8: Road to Perdition (Live Action Motion Picture, DreamWorks)
6: Birds of Prey (Live Action TV Series, WB)
4: No Award
3: Justice League (Animated TV Series, Cartoon Network)
2: X-Men: Evolution (Animated TV Series, Kids WB)
1: Dan Dare (Animated TV Series, BBC)

BEST COMICS-RELATED STORY (PRINT) OF 2002
10: No Award
4: "Alien Conqueror Captured in Suburbs" (Astro City ad)
2: Akiko and the Intergalactic Zoo, Judge Dredd D20 Role-Playing Game
1: Elektra & Wolverine: The Redeemer, Smallville: Strange Visitors,
Spider-Man (film novelization)

BEST COMICS-RELATED MERCHANDISE OF 2002
6: Streaky the Supercat soft toy
5: Freedom Force PC game, Spider-Man movie DVD set, No Award
3: Jimmy Corrigan lunch box
2: Foundry Hammerstein miniature, Sugar & Spike soft toys
1: Aquaman statue, Blue Monday button set, Captain America shield,
Cyclops statue, Futurama Horrible Gelatinous Blob Squishy Toy, John
Stewart action figure, Judge Dredd action figure, Marvel HeroClix,
Mordru action figure, Owlman action figure, Phantom Lady action figure,
Public Domain: A Channel Zero Designbook, Spider-Man bobblehead,
Spider-Man bust, Spider-Man Lego, Streaky/Krypto/Superboy/Supergirl
action figure set, Wonder Woman maquette

BEST COMICS PUBLICATION OF 2002
12: Comic Book Artist
7: The Comics Journal
5: Eddie Campbell's Egomania, Wizard
4: Alter Ego, Comics Buyer's Guide, Jack Kirby Collector, Tripwire
3: Curt Swan: A Life in Comics
2: Comic Wars, No Award
1: Comic Book Marketplace, Comics & Games Retailer

BEST FOCUSED COMICS WEB SITE OF 2002
8: Mark Evanier's POV Online (povonline.com)
7: The X-Axis (www.thexaxis.com)
6: 2000AD Online (www.2000adonline.com)
6: Digital Priest.com (www.digital-priest.com)
6: Mike's Amazing World of DC Comics (www.dcindexes.com)
4: DC Comics (www.dccomics.com)
4: X-Fan (www.x-mencomics.com/xfan)
3: Peter David (www.peterdavid.net)
2: CrossGen's Comics on the Web (www.comicsontheweb.com)
2: Jess Nevins's Annotations
(www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/7160/annos.html)
2: Notes on League of Extraordinary Gentlemen V2
(www.geocities.com/jessnevins/league4.html)
2: Rex Mundi (www.rexmundi.net)
2: Warren Ellis (www.warrenellis.com)
1: Art of Jim Lee (groups.msn.com/artofjimlee)
1: Brian Wood forum (forums.delphiforums.com/ChannelZero)
1: Comic Book Awards Almanac (www.enteract.com/~aardy/comics/awards/)
1: Daryl Cagle's Professional Cartoonist Index (cagle.slate.msn.com)
1: Dilbert (www.dilbert.com)
1: Eddie Campbell Comics (www.eddiecampbellcomics.com)
1: Femforce-Femfans (www.femforce-femfans.com)
1: Grant Morrison (www.grant-morrison.com)
1: Hellboy (www.hellboy.com)
1: Oni Press (www.onipress.com)
1: Superman Homepage (www.supermanhomepage.com)
1: Superman Through the Ages (www.stta.nu)
1: Unofficial John Byrne fan site
(www.acc.umu.se/~alpha/byrne/start.html)

BEST GENERAL COMICS WEB SITE OF 2002
16: Newsarama (www.newsarama.com)
8: Pulse (www.comicon.com/pulse)
7: Comic Book Resources (www.comicbookresources.com)
7: Grand Comics Database (www.comics.org)
6: Comicon.com (www.comicon.com)
4: Comics Worth Reading (www.comicsworthreading.com)
4: The Fourth Rail (www.thefourthrail.com)
4: Ninth Art (www.ninthart.com)
3: Comics I Don't Understand (www.comicsidontunderstand.com)
2: Journalista (www.tcj.com/journalista)
2: Sequential Tart (www.sequentialtart.com)
1: Borderline (www.borderlinemagazine.co.uk)
1: Comics Continuum (www.comicscontinuum.com)
1: Digital Webbing (www.digitalwebbing.com)
1: Slush Factory (www.slushfactory.com)

BEST COMICS JOURNALIST OF 2002
20: Rich Johnston
9: Paul O'Brien
6: Johanna Draper Carlson
5: Heidi MacDonald
3: David Bishop, Matt Brady, Jen Contino
2: Mark Evanier, Rob Schmidt, No Award
1: Michael Dean, Dirk Deppey, R.C. Harvey, Tony Isabella, Joel Meadows,
Eric J. Moreels, Calvin Reid


RAC-SPECIFIC CATEGORIES
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FAVORITE R.A.C-ER OF 2002 (NON-CREATORS)
24: Johanna Draper Carlson
19: Paul O'Brien
12: Carl Henderson
8: Tom Galloway (tyg)
5: Mike Chary, Sachem Orenda Clark, Todd Tamanend Clark, X Tecumseh
Clark, Dave Van Domelen, No Award
4: Ronniecat
3: George Grattan, Mike Peterson, Doug Tonks
2: Jerry Boyajian (jayembee), Ralf Haring, Charles LePage, Jeff Meyer
(Moriarty), Tue Sorensen
1: Joe Ankenbauer, Adrian Brown, Jim Caldwell, Jim Connick, Loren Di
Iorio, Jym Dyer, Carl Fink, Marc-Oliver Frisch, Graeme, Franklin
Harris, Jeremy Henderson, Eoghann Irving, ATKokmen, Samy Merchi, Eric
J. Moreels, Jess Nevins, Eric Northcutt, Michael Schiffer, Hal Shipman,
Col. G. L. Sicherman, Andrew Stephenson, Hannibal Tabu (The Operative)

FAVORITE R.A.C-ER OF 2002 (CREATORS)
38: Kurt Busiek
21: Christopher Priest
12: Gail Simone
9: Erik Larsen
7: Peter David
6: Ian Boothby, Walter Simonson
5: Mark Evanier, Rob Schmidt, No Award
4: Brooke McEldowney, Ty Templeton
3: Tom Breevort, Fabian Nicieza
2: Bob Almond, Lea Hernandez, Dwayne McDuffie
1: Terry Beatty, Brian Michael Bendis, Jason Yungbluth


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http://www.darkicon.com/Library/randsent.htm

Indeed, the terrible globule of a barely mysterious annihilation was
orbiting. It was a figure inside a germ, but now I had no choice but to
accept the fact that the anomaly beyond the Elder Sign was indeed
magnificent as well as often resplendent! I watched in horror as a tome
wisely hurled another inconceivable nation at the automobile!
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Steve Block

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On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 05:58:05 GMT, carl.he...@airmail.net (Carl
Henderson) wrote:

Woohoo. Thanks for doing these Carl and Johanna.

>BEST COMICS-RELATED STORY (PRINT) OF 2002
>10: No Award

The only category I voted for the winner. Since we are now post
squiddies, I nominate the canning of this category. Is it worth
folding back to adaptation and letting print and film and radio and
the like slug it out together?

I know the categories were broadened because of Unbreakable and
Kavalier and Clay or whatever it was, but, cards on table, I'm still
unconvinced as to whether their existence should be recognised by
the Squiddies. Kavalier and Clay I can see the reasoning, but why
wasn't this considered in Comics Publication? I mean, it's a
publication, and it's about comics, or at least that's how I read
the argument at the time the adaptation category was broadened.
Unbreakable I just don't buy, because superheroic conventions are
not comics, they are genre trappings.

I'd also like to propose a best cartoonist category, to recognise
those creators who write, pencil and ink and letter. People like
Eddie Campbell, Andi Watson, M'oak, Jeff Smith, Los Bros Hernandez,
well Jaime and Gilberto and so on.


I recall Johanna and Carl mentioning they'd like to see the ballot
trimmed a little, and other categories I would put forward as worth
thinking about in terms of trimming the fat are: the multipart and
short stories, the character team, the character.

I'd also put forward the merging of the two website categories and
the two rac'er categories. (Personally you could get rid of these
and I wouldn't be miffed.)

I also have to say, to my eyes, RAC seems to be getting more
eclectic, best evinced in the creative team category, where I think
I may have voted for one of those in the dead heat.
Stephen Block

Ralf Haring

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Mar 24, 2003, 10:07:05 AM3/24/03
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On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 05:58:05 GMT, carl.he...@airmail.net (Carl
Henderson) wrote:
>
>BEST COMICS INKER OF 2002
>1: Mark Pennington

The man makes my eyes stop bleeding when looking at Bart Sears' art!
He is a god!

>BEST NEW COMIC SERIES OF 2002
>15: Y: The Last Man

I just read the first collection this weekend. Good stuff. I'll be
awaiting more trades.

>BEST COMIC CHARARACTER OF 2002

>1: Popo the Monkey (Way of the Rat)

Popo marvels at the sheer lunacy that has befallen the vast ranks of
the voters. Clearly they do not properly appreciate his magnificence.

-Ralf Haring
"The mind must be the harder, the heart the keener,
the spirit the greater, as our strength grows less."
-Byrhtwold, The Battle of Maldon

Carlos Hernandez

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Mar 24, 2003, 2:50:53 PM3/24/03
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Steve Block <steve...@yahoo.com> writes:

>On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 05:58:05 GMT, carl.he...@airmail.net (Carl
>Henderson) wrote:
>
>I'd also like to propose a best cartoonist category, to recognise
>those creators who write, pencil and ink and letter. People like
>Eddie Campbell, Andi Watson, M'oak, Jeff Smith, Los Bros Hernandez,
>well Jaime and Gilberto and so on.

I'll second this idea!
--
Carlos Hernandez Fisher | "Dogs lie. We know they do."
cahe...@nospam.sfu.ca | -- Dr. Lawrence J. Myers
remove 'nospam' to reply | Auburn Veterinary Medicine

Laurent Lehmann

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On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 13:39:39 +0000, Steve Block <steve...@yahoo.com>
wrote in message <q01u7v8egqkaq6vi5...@4ax.com> :

> I'd also like to propose a best cartoonist category, to recognise
> those creators who write, pencil and ink and letter.

Yes, yes, yes ! Every year I forget to suggest that category for
the comics awards we're running on another NG, but I really believe
people like Jaime & Gilbert Hernadez, Dave Lapham, Terry Moore, Frank
Miller,... are in a category of their own, and trying to break down
their talent into writer or penciller or inker doesn't do them
justice...

And once again, thanks Carl and Johanna for running the show year
after year !

--
Laurent

The Operative

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Mar 24, 2003, 3:31:15 PM3/24/03
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carl.he...@airmail.net (Carl Henderson) wrote in message news:<Xns9347F3D089E99ca...@151.164.30.48>...

> BEST COMIC CHARARACTER OF 2002
> 6: Judge Dredd

Really?

> FAVORITE R.A.C-ER OF 2002 (NON-CREATORS)

> 1: Hannibal Tabu (The Operative)

Every time I see this I'm amazed -- whoever voted for me, thank you!

-Hannibal Tabu
www.operative.net

Andrew Callaghan

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Mar 24, 2003, 5:25:19 PM3/24/03
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"Carl Henderson" <carl.he...@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9347F3D089E99ca...@151.164.30.48...

> And for the detail-oriented, here is the long form of the 2002 Squiddy
> Winners:

<<many many many snippies>>

Well, I for one thank both you and Johanna for your work on putting all of
this together

Andrew


Carlos Hernandez

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Mar 24, 2003, 6:38:46 PM3/24/03
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hte...@pacbell.net (The Operative) writes:

>carl.he...@airmail.net (Carl Henderson) wrote in message news:<Xns9347F3D089E99ca...@151.164.30.48>...
>> BEST COMIC CHARARACTER OF 2002
>> 6: Judge Dredd

>Really?

The residents of alt.comics.2000ad got together to try and swamp the
poll. Apparently all of seven of them did so, but it was enough to take
this category. There's a thread over in that group discussing it right
now.

Graeme

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"Carlos Hernandez" <cahe...@nospam.sfu.ca> wrote in message
news:b5o4u6$42l$1...@morgoth.sfu.ca...

> >> BEST COMIC CHARARACTER OF 2002
> >> 6: Judge Dredd
>
> >Really?
>
> The residents of alt.comics.2000ad got together to try and swamp the
> poll.

Actually we didn't. Back when Carl first posted the Squiddy ballots I
suggested on alt.comics.2000ad that we should take an interest because 2000
AD (or so some of us felt) is often overlooked or under-represented despite
having a *weekly* readership comparable to (for example) many DC books in
terms of numbers. On a monthly basis, the readership numbers start coming
close to Diamond Top 10 quantities.

If there had been a deliberate effort to swamp the poll there would have
been much less diversity amongst our answers and a stronger focus on
specific 2000 AD characters, strips and creators rather than the relatively
diverse range that seemed to filter through in the end. Dredd as Best
Character appears to be the one thing we all agreed on (or perhaps only 5 or
6 of agreed on and the extra votes came from elsewhere - only Johanna and
Carl could say for sure).

Graeme
--
http://members.optusnet.com.au/graeme

"Cut myself shaving this morning. Got pretty scratched
up shaving the cat, too." - Bug-Eyed Earl (Red Meat)


Franklin Harris

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"Carl Henderson" <carl.he...@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9347F3D089E99ca...@151.164.30.48...

> FAVORITE R.A.C-ER OF 2002 (NON-CREATORS)


> 1: Joe Ankenbauer, Adrian Brown, Jim Caldwell, Jim Connick, Loren Di
> Iorio, Jym Dyer, Carl Fink, Marc-Oliver Frisch, Graeme, Franklin
> Harris, Jeremy Henderson, Eoghann Irving, ATKokmen, Samy Merchi, Eric
> J. Moreels, Jess Nevins, Eric Northcutt, Michael Schiffer, Hal Shipman,
> Col. G. L. Sicherman, Andrew Stephenson, Hannibal Tabu (The Operative)

To whoever voted for me, thank you and seek professional help.

Best regards,

--
Franklin Harris
Pulp Culture Online, www.pulpculture.net
"The truly psychotic don't need to cop an attitude." -- Poppy Z. Brite,
alt.horror, 2/21/03


Johanna Draper Carlson

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Mar 24, 2003, 9:01:03 PM3/24/03
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Steve Block <steve...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Woohoo. Thanks for doing these Carl and Johanna.

Thanks to you and everyone else for the appreciation.

I'd also like to say thank you to those who voted for me for Favorite
Poster. I really appreciate it.


> >BEST COMICS-RELATED STORY (PRINT) OF 2002
> >10: No Award
>
> The only category I voted for the winner. Since we are now post
> squiddies, I nominate the canning of this category. Is it worth
> folding back to adaptation and letting print and film and radio and
> the like slug it out together?

That's an interesting possibility -- what do other people think?

> I'd also like to propose a best cartoonist category, to recognise
> those creators who write, pencil and ink and letter.

Great idea.

> I recall Johanna and Carl mentioning they'd like to see the ballot
> trimmed a little, and other categories I would put forward as worth
> thinking about in terms of trimming the fat are: the multipart and
> short stories, the character team, the character.

Again, I'd like to hear what others think about that. Carl and I briefly
tossed around the idea of not being so specific about story lengths
while doing our own brainstorming.


> I also have to say, to my eyes, RAC seems to be getting more
> eclectic, best evinced in the creative team category

That was one of the fun things about ballot-counting -- the sheer number
of wonderful choices.

--
Johanna Draper Carlson
Reviews of Comics Worth Reading -- http://www.comicsworthreading.com
Newly updated: Amelia Rules!, Blue Monday, Reviews of Cheat, Finder,
Complex City, Clive Barker's Tapping the Vein, Oddgod, more

ATKokmen

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Mar 24, 2003, 9:47:52 PM3/24/03
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Johanna Draper Carlson joh...@discardme.comicsworthreading.com writes:

>Steve Block <steve...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> >BEST COMICS-RELATED STORY (PRINT) OF 2002
>> >10: No Award
>>
>> The only category I voted for the winner. Since we are now post
>> squiddies, I nominate the canning of this category. Is it worth
>> folding back to adaptation and letting print and film and radio and
>> the like slug it out together?
>
>That's an interesting possibility -- what do other people think?

Well, as I observed in a bit of brainstorming earlier, there are
actually a number of issues surrounding the categories of
"Best Comics-Related Story (TV/Film/Performance)" and
"Best Comics-Related Story (Print)" and "Best Comics Publication"

To reiterate a February post of mine, you've got:

1) The Adaptation issue. For some time, the film and print
categories were named for "adaptations." But then there's the
occasional comics-themed media like "Amazing Adventures of Kavalier
& Clay" or "Unbreakable" which aren't, strictly speaking, adaptations
of any pre-existing comic. Should such things be eligible in
some Squiddy category?

2) The medium issue. To what degree is it reasonable to
seperate the kinds of media in which some comics-themed stuff
is done? Should, say, print media (or even more specific subsets
like "books" and "magazines") have a separate category
than, say, movies/TV? Related to this issue breadth of eligible media.
That is, although most such comics-themed media will surely be
in the traditional print, movie, or TV formats, should the relevant
categories be defined broadly enough to include other theoretically
possible media like live theatre, musicals, opera, OTR-style radio
audio drama, musical compositions, etc.?

3) The fiction/non-fiction issue. To what degree is it reasonable
to separate the content of such comics-themed media in terms
of fiction and non-fiction? However the categories are drawn,
shouldn't both fiction and non-fiction items in every relevant medium
have a category in which they are eligible?

In itself, I don't mind the idea of folding "Comics-Related Story (Print)" back
into "Comics-Related Story (TV/Film/Performance)." Let's say
that new category is called something like "Comics-Related Story (Other
Media)"

The only place I get tripped up is how to handle non-fiction works.
This year, there seemed to be some intuitive understanding that
the "Comics-Related Story" categories were solely for fictional works.
That can make sense for print works, since non-fiction print works
were eligible in the "Comics Publication" category. But what of
theoretical non-fiction works of other media? Where would
a "Crumb" or a "Comic Book Confidential" be eligible?

Maybe the answer is to indeed combine the "Comics-Related Story"
into a single category to cover fictional comics-related stories of
any medium AND to broaden "Best Comics Publication" into
a category that explicitly covers non-fictional works about comics (i.e.
works of commentary or scholarship on comics) of any medium. Of course, most
of the items nominated in this broadened "Best Comics
Publication" will surely be print magazines like "Comic Book Artist"
and "Wizard," but at least there will be a category where
works of other media could be celebrated.

Or maybe not. What does everyone else think?


ATK
_______
"There is only one requirement for any of us, and that is to be
courageous...And I believe, because I've done a little of this myself,
pretending to be courageous is just as good as the real thing."
--David Letterman, 17 September 2001

Carlos Hernandez

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"Graeme" <gra...@optushome.sodoff.com.au> writes:

>"Carlos Hernandez" <cahe...@nospam.sfu.ca> wrote in message
>news:b5o4u6$42l$1...@morgoth.sfu.ca...

>> >> BEST COMIC CHARARACTER OF 2002
>> >> 6: Judge Dredd
>>
>> >Really?
>>
>> The residents of alt.comics.2000ad got together to try and swamp the
>> poll.

>Actually we didn't. Back when Carl first posted the Squiddy ballots I
>suggested on alt.comics.2000ad that we should take an interest because 2000
>AD (or so some of us felt) is often overlooked or under-represented despite
>having a *weekly* readership comparable to (for example) many DC books in
>terms of numbers. On a monthly basis, the readership numbers start coming
>close to Diamond Top 10 quantities.

No, you're right, and I shouldn't have used the word swamped as I didn't
mean to imply anything underhanded. That said, someone posted oven in your
group today:

> In an awards poll that easy to nobble (hey, if I'd even known something
> of mine was nominated and got a friend to vote for it too, I could have
> ran away with the Best Comic Short Story of 2002, with a whopping FOUR
> votes!) it's quite shameful that we couldn't have stolen at least half
> these categories.

And the thing about the Squiddies is that it's supposed to reflect the
spirit and opinions of rac* (And, hey, alt.comics.2000ad isn't even in the
rac* hierarchy, why are we even letting you vote? *G*), not the outside
world, and campaigning outside of that forum sort of defeats the purpose.
It's like a few years back when one of the nominees (or contenders, I
guess, since there's no nomination process) plugged the awards on his Web
site and got a bunch of outsiders to vote, which is why I think the ballot
is now only available in the newsgroups themselves.

George Grattan

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Mar 24, 2003, 11:10:27 PM3/24/03
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on 3/24/03 9:01 PM, Johanna Draper Carlson at
joh...@discardme.comicsworthreading.com wrote:

>
>
>>> BEST COMICS-RELATED STORY (PRINT) OF 2002
>>> 10: No Award
>>
>> The only category I voted for the winner. Since we are now post
>> squiddies, I nominate the canning of this category. Is it worth
>> folding back to adaptation and letting print and film and radio and
>> the like slug it out together?
>
> That's an interesting possibility -- what do other people think?

I second it. It's potentially a bit messy, but something like "Best
Comics-Related Non-Comics Work in Other Media" would work for me. If this
weren't primarily a *comics* award voting, I'd be against it on the grounds
of comparing apples and oranges (say, "Road to Perdition" versus "Kavalier
and Clay" versus "Smallville") unfairly, but the Squiddies are focused on
comics, so I think a lumped category for other media makes sense.


>
>> I'd also like to propose a best cartoonist category, to recognise
>> those creators who write, pencil and ink and letter.
>
> Great idea.

I third this one, since I think someone's already seconded it. :-)


>
>> I recall Johanna and Carl mentioning they'd like to see the ballot
>> trimmed a little, and other categories I would put forward as worth
>> thinking about in terms of trimming the fat are: the multipart and
>> short stories, the character team, the character.
>
> Again, I'd like to hear what others think about that. Carl and I briefly
> tossed around the idea of not being so specific about story lengths
> while doing our own brainstorming.

I'd keep multi-part and short-story: they have different formal requirements
that deserve to be recognized. I think the other two are silly, but fun. I
wouldn't really miss them, but see no need to trim them, either, unless the
balloting process is just getting two unwieldy. There's definitely a
methodological argument for dropping them, of course, since they recognize
fictional characters directly, not the work/artists that construct them.

--
Shalom, Peace, Salaam

George Grattan

Graeme

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Mar 24, 2003, 11:44:12 PM3/24/03
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"Carlos Hernandez" <cahe...@nospam.sfu.ca> wrote in message
news:b5ogpf$ceq$1...@morgoth.sfu.ca...

> No, you're right, and I shouldn't have used the word swamped as I didn't
> mean to imply anything underhanded.

No problem. I can understand why from reading the newsgroup people might
come away with the impression that we're an underhanded bunch.

That said, someone posted oven in your
> group today:
>
> > In an awards poll that easy to nobble (hey, if I'd even known something
> > of mine was nominated and got a friend to vote for it too, I could have
> > ran away with the Best Comic Short Story of 2002, with a whopping FOUR
> > votes!) it's quite shameful that we couldn't have stolen at least half
> > these categories.

I believe that was Gordon Rennie. Gordon is at least a semi-regular visitor
to the group and would have seen (but apparently not read) the previous
Squiddies messages, so I suspect he was simply being cynical. My enthusiasm
at seeing Dredd take "Best Character" didn't seem to be shared by those
hard-bitten, cynical Brits.

Although in deference to the rac* hierarchy, I didn't nominate 2000 AD pros
like Gordon, Henry Flint, Jock etc... for any awards precisely because they
didn't post to any of the rac.* groups that I was aware of.

> And the thing about the Squiddies is that it's supposed to reflect the
> spirit and opinions of rac* (And, hey, alt.comics.2000ad isn't even in the
> rac* hierarchy, why are we even letting you vote? *G*),

Because the rac* hierarchy is comprised of big-hearted souls who's never
dream of excluding someone based on the colour of their prefix or the
denomination of their newsgroup :)

not the outside
> world, and campaigning outside of that forum sort of defeats the purpose.

There are several rac* posters over at alt.comics.2000ad, though, and
~probably~ a good number of lurkers (although naturally that's impossible to
verify one way or the other). I really don't know how accurate it would be
to describe the alt. groups as the outside world.

> It's like a few years back when one of the nominees (or contenders, I
> guess, since there's no nomination process) plugged the awards on his Web
> site and got a bunch of outsiders to vote, which is why I think the ballot
> is now only available in the newsgroups themselves.

That kind of conduct is just plain ... well, not quite dishonest, but
certainly against the spirit of the awards.

But I guess this raises the question as to why crosspost several messages
re. the Squiddies across alt.comics-related groups if you don't want those
people to pay attention and vote. Maybe the status of the alt.* groups is
something to address before next year's ballot? That way alt.* people will
know beforehand whether they need to invade the rac.* groups during the
polling period so they can drum up some rac.* cred before stuffing the
ballot box :)

Ralf Haring

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Mar 25, 2003, 1:05:17 AM3/25/03
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:44:12 +1000, "Graeme"
<gra...@optushome.sodoff.com.au> wrote:
>"Carlos Hernandez" <cahe...@nospam.sfu.ca> wrote in message
>news:b5ogpf$ceq$1...@morgoth.sfu.ca...
>
>> It's like a few years back when one of the nominees (or contenders, I
>> guess, since there's no nomination process) plugged the awards on his Web
>> site and got a bunch of outsiders to vote, which is why I think the ballot
>> is now only available in the newsgroups themselves.
>
>That kind of conduct is just plain ... well, not quite dishonest, but
>certainly against the spirit of the awards.

I don't think it was anything so underhanded. He plugged that there
were these awards called the squiddies going on and that he was up for
one. Sluggy Freelance being a very popular comic, quite a few readers
went to the web-based entry form and submitted Sluggy Freelance for
every award, no matter whether it was appropriate or not. The guy
behind sluggy withdrew his comic from consideration after he found out
what was going on.

But that was why they got rid of the web-based form, iirc.

Graeme

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Mar 25, 2003, 1:31:51 AM3/25/03
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"Ralf Haring" <ra...@duke.edu> wrote in message
news:3e7ff11a...@news.verizon.net...

> On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:44:12 +1000, "Graeme"
> <gra...@optushome.sodoff.com.au> wrote:

> >That kind of conduct is just plain ... well, not quite dishonest, but
> >certainly against the spirit of the awards.
>
> I don't think it was anything so underhanded. He plugged that there
> were these awards called the squiddies going on and that he was up for
> one. Sluggy Freelance being a very popular comic, quite a few readers
> went to the web-based entry form and submitted Sluggy Freelance for
> every award, no matter whether it was appropriate or not.

"The Squiddies for Sluggy" campaign. It almost sounds like a comic title in
its own right.

The guy
> behind sluggy withdrew his comic from consideration after he found out
> what was going on.

I take back what I said, then. That was very decent of him.

> But that was why they got rid of the web-based form, iirc.

I figured something like that was behind the current system, but I didn't
know there'd been an actual incident like the one you describe. I guess
those are the kind of flaws that you don't find out about until they happen.

Laurent Lehmann

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On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:10:27 -0500, George Grattan <gra...@rcn.com>
wrote in message <BAA540E3.1429B%gra...@rcn.com> :

> It's potentially a bit messy, but something like "Best
> Comics-Related Non-Comics Work in Other Media" would work for me.

I'd be happy with two categories for things that aren't actually
comics : fiction and non-fiction.

Comics-related (fiction) : Movie adaptations, comics-themed movies (eg
Robinson's _Comic Book villains_), the occasional Kavalier and Clay,
figurines,...

Comics-related (non-fiction) : Magazines, books about comics, movie
biographies (_Comic-book Confidential_,...),...

--
Laurent

Steve Block

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Mar 25, 2003, 3:35:36 AM3/25/03
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 11:24:44 +1000, "Graeme"
<gra...@optushome.sodoff.com.au> wrote:

>2000
>AD (or so some of us felt) is often overlooked or under-represented despite
>having a *weekly* readership comparable to (for example) many DC books in
>terms of numbers. On a monthly basis, the readership numbers start coming
>close to Diamond Top 10 quantities.

That's apples and oranges. You can only compare the weekly figures
for tooth with monthly figures stateside. Unless you are suggesting
that every week is a whole new set of readers on a four weekly
cycle?
Stephen Block

Steve Block

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Mar 25, 2003, 3:53:08 AM3/25/03
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:13:17 +0100, Laurent Lehmann
<lleh...@club-internet.fr> wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:10:27 -0500, George Grattan <gra...@rcn.com>
>wrote in message <BAA540E3.1429B%gra...@rcn.com> :
>
>> It's potentially a bit messy, but something like "Best
>> Comics-Related Non-Comics Work in Other Media" would work for me.

I can't see George's original yet, but yeah, that works for me.
Slight tweaking could be Best Comics-Related Work in Another Medium.
Just depends what we call a medium then. Is merchandise a medium?
Documentary, Biography, Fiction, all work here.

> I'd be happy with two categories for things that aren't actually
>comics : fiction and non-fiction.
>
>Comics-related (fiction) : Movie adaptations, comics-themed movies (eg
>Robinson's _Comic Book villains_), the occasional Kavalier and Clay,
>figurines,...


>Comics-related (non-fiction) : Magazines, books about comics, movie
>biographies (_Comic-book Confidential_,...),...

Yeah, this works, too, if you want to break down fictive and
non-fictive. Are the categories that strong, though?
Stephen Block

Charles LePage

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Mar 25, 2003, 6:19:23 AM3/25/03
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On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 05:58:05 GMT, carl.he...@airmail.net (Carl
Henderson) wrote:

>RAC-SPECIFIC CATEGORIES
>-----------------------
>
>FAVORITE R.A.C-ER OF 2002 (NON-CREATORS)

>2: Jerry Boyajian (jayembee), Ralf Haring, Charles LePage, Jeff Meyer
>(Moriarty), Tue Sorensen

I'd like to thank my Mom and Dad for voting for me.

*Charles S. LePage www.comiclist.com *
* New Comic Book Releases List *

Jim Connick

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"Graeme" <gra...@optushome.sodoff.com.au> wrote in message
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: "Carlos Hernandez" <cahe...@nospam.sfu.ca> wrote in message

: news:b5o4u6$42l$1...@morgoth.sfu.ca...
:
: > >> BEST COMIC CHARARACTER OF 2002
: > >> 6: Judge Dredd
: >
: > >Really?
: >
: > The residents of alt.comics.2000ad got together to try and swamp the
: > poll.
:
: Actually we didn't. Back when Carl first posted the Squiddy ballots I
: suggested on alt.comics.2000ad that we should take an interest
: If there had been a deliberate effort to swamp the poll there would have

: been much less diversity amongst our answers and a stronger focus on
: specific 2000 AD characters, strips and creators rather than the
relatively
: diverse range that seemed to filter through in the end. Dredd as Best
: Character appears to be the one thing we all agreed on (or perhaps only 5
or
: 6 of agreed on and the extra votes came from elsewhere - only Johanna and
: Carl could say for sure).
:
: Graeme

As one of those "ballot swampers" from a.c.2000ad, I can assure everyone
else (concerning my vote at least) was hardly a cynical attempt to stuff the
ballot. If it had been, I'd have voted entirely for 2000AD, rather than
voting for it where I thought it deserved it, and voting for other people
and comics in the other categories.

Jim

Jim Connick

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Mar 25, 2003, 1:17:19 PM3/25/03
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"Carlos Hernandez" <cahe...@nospam.sfu.ca> wrote in message
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: "Graeme" <gra...@optushome.sodoff.com.au> writes:

: And the thing about the Squiddies is that it's supposed to reflect the


: spirit and opinions of rac* (And, hey, alt.comics.2000ad isn't even in the
: rac* hierarchy, why are we even letting you vote? *G*),

You are just jealous me & Greame got more votes as favourite rac*er than you
;oP

Jim - still worried about that vote he got.

George Grattan

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Mar 25, 2003, 1:33:02 PM3/25/03
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You're absolutely right. Looking at my bookshelf this morning I realized
that I wouldn't want to have to choose between, say, Les Daniels'
non-fiction WONDER WOMAN and, say, Chabon's novel KAVALIER and CLAY.

Sorry-- I know the point here was to *reduce* categories of voting, but I
think a Fiction and Non-Fiction Non-Comics Comics Related Work categories
are a good idea.

Laurent Lehmann

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Mar 25, 2003, 2:49:38 PM3/25/03
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:53:08 +0000, Steve Block <steve...@yahoo.com>
wrote in message <6a508vc19e8pbusl0...@4ax.com> :

> Yeah, this works, too, if you want to break down fictive and
> non-fictive. Are the categories that strong, though?

Well, I'd think so :

Comics-related fiction :

Some "big" movies this year (and last year, and the year before,
probably next year), cartoons, the DC Direct figurines, the
Bowen-style statues,... : all of those items make for an interesting
and coherent bag of things that pretend to extend comics' fictional
universes into things that aren't actually comics.

Comics-related non-fiction :

There's a lot of magazines (_The Comics Journal_, _Alter Ego_,
_Comic-Book Artist_, _Write now !_, _Draw_, _Comic-Book
Marketplace_,...) that deserve some recognition beyond _Wizard_.
Publishers like TwoMorrows or Vanguards are also regularly putting out
books on comics history, great creators, or the craft of comics. And
I'd say there's at least one essential documentary every two years
(_Comic-book Confidential_, _Crumb_, the French _From Superman to
Spider-Man_,...).


--
Laurent

Michael Pastor

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Mar 25, 2003, 5:00:46 PM3/25/03
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"Laurent Lehmann" <lleh...@club-internet.fr> wrote in message
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Which, to me, mixes far too many types of things into one category. How can
a figurine compete against a movie? How can a series of reviews in
Entertainment Weekly compete against Crumb?

Off the top of my head, I would seperate print media (fiction and non) from
non-print (fiction and non).

michael j pastor


Laurent Lehmann

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Mar 25, 2003, 5:38:55 PM3/25/03
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:00:46 -0500, "Michael Pastor"
<michael...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
<b5qk08$2blrhg$1...@ID-174457.news.dfncis.de> :

> Which, to me, mixes far too many types of things into one category. How can
> a figurine compete against a movie? How can a series of reviews in
> Entertainment Weekly compete against Crumb?
>
> Off the top of my head, I would seperate print media (fiction and non) from
> non-print (fiction and non).

Well... how can _Crumb_ compete against _Spider-Man the Movie_ ?

I think it makes more sense to choose between _Spider-Man the
Movie_ and a Spider-Man/Green Goblin statue, or between _Crumb_ and
_The Comics Journal_...

--
Laurent

Graeme

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Mar 25, 2003, 6:35:57 PM3/25/03
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"Steve Block" <steve...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >2000
> >AD (or so some of us felt) is often overlooked or under-represented
despite
> >having a *weekly* readership comparable to (for example) many DC books in
> >terms of numbers. On a monthly basis, the readership numbers start
coming
> >close to Diamond Top 10 quantities.
>
> That's apples and oranges.

When apples and oranges are all you've got to work with...

You can only compare the weekly figures
> for tooth with monthly figures stateside.

*shrug* They still compare favourably as far as I can tell.

Unless you are suggesting
> that every week is a whole new set of readers on a four weekly
> cycle?

That sounds good. Let's go with that.

Graeme

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"Jim Connick" <j...@theaww.com> wrote in message
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> "Carlos Hernandez" <cahe...@nospam.sfu.ca> wrote in message
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>

> : And the thing about the Squiddies is that it's supposed to reflect the
> : spirit and opinions of rac* (And, hey, alt.comics.2000ad isn't even in
the
> : rac* hierarchy, why are we even letting you vote? *G*),
>
> You are just jealous me & Greame got more votes as favourite rac*er than
you
> ;oP

What? I got a vote? [google search] Oh my God! I did, too - how did that
happen?

> Jim - still worried about that vote he got.

I'm kind of stunned about mine. I certainly wouldn't have nominated me.

Johanna Draper Carlson

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Mar 25, 2003, 8:16:22 PM3/25/03
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"Graeme" <gra...@optushome.sodoff.com.au> wrote:

> I figured something like that was behind the current system, but I didn't
> know there'd been an actual incident like the one you describe. I guess
> those are the kind of flaws that you don't find out about until they happen.

That's pretty much the rationale behind the admin decisions. :)

Seriously, we do try and avoid issues we can forsee, but many times, our
predictive powers are overtaken by the real world, at which point we
have to make the best choices we can.

I very much appreciate (and I'm sure Carl does to) people not trying to
take advantage of the flexibility of the system, and voting honestly in
reflection of their opinions, not particular campaigns.

Johanna Draper Carlson

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Mar 25, 2003, 8:40:33 PM3/25/03
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George Grattan <gra...@rcn.com> wrote:

> Sorry-- I know the point here was to *reduce* categories of voting, but I
> think a Fiction and Non-Fiction Non-Comics Comics Related Work categories
> are a good idea.

There are other goals, like reducing uncertainty and the need for
eligibility rulings, that we might want to address as well.

The Napoleon of Crime

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Mar 26, 2003, 2:06:35 PM3/26/03
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Charles LePage <ch...@comiclist.com> wrote in message news:<3pe08v09s73jtrvg0...@4ax.com>...

> On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 05:58:05 GMT, carl.he...@airmail.net (Carl
> Henderson) wrote:
>
> >FAVORITE R.A.C-ER OF 2002 (NON-CREATORS)
> >2: Jerry Boyajian (jayembee), Ralf Haring, Charles LePage, Jeff Meyer
> >(Moriarty), Tue Sorensen

Wow -- Jerry and I tieing in that category again. How retro is
*that*?

I shall expect earthquakes and fire from the skies any minute now.
(Or a visit from a Fox "News" team -- about the same thing, really.)

"You deliver a good argument, but speaking
personally, I'd rather have an exhibitionist
nymphomaniac, especially one who looked like Julie
Newmar."

-- Jerry Boyajian

Jeff Meyer, N.C., N.Q.D.Y.
[Not Quite Dead Yet]

Andrew Stephenson

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Mar 26, 2003, 8:28:54 PM3/26/03
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In article <83c6626b.0303...@posting.google.com>
mori...@fluke.com "The Napoleon of Crime" writes:

> [...]


>
> I shall expect earthquakes and fire from the skies any minute now.
> (Or a visit from a Fox "News" team -- about the same thing, really.)

You can hope to buy insurance against the first two.
--
Andrew Stephenson

Michael R. Grabois ... change $ to "s"

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Mar 27, 2003, 2:12:46 AM3/27/03
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:53:08 +0000, Steve Block <steve...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:13:17 +0100, Laurent Lehmann
><lleh...@club-internet.fr> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:10:27 -0500, George Grattan <gra...@rcn.com>
>>wrote in message <BAA540E3.1429B%gra...@rcn.com> :
>>
>>> It's potentially a bit messy, but something like "Best
>>> Comics-Related Non-Comics Work in Other Media" would work for me.
>
>I can't see George's original yet, but yeah, that works for me.
>Slight tweaking could be Best Comics-Related Work in Another Medium.
>Just depends what we call a medium then. Is merchandise a medium?
>Documentary, Biography, Fiction, all work here.

"Best Comics-Related Non-Comics Work in Media Other Than Traditional Comic
Books"?

Jim Caldwell

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Mar 29, 2003, 8:20:12 PM3/29/03
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in article Xns9347F3D089E99ca...@151.164.30.48, Carl
Henderson at carl.he...@airmail.net wrote on 3/23/03 11:58 PM:

Someone's Back On the Pipe Award:


> RAC-SPECIFIC CATEGORIES
> -----------------------


>
> FAVORITE R.A.C-ER OF 2002 (NON-CREATORS)

[snip]
> 1: ... Jim Caldwell


Thanks. I suppose I should be proud I got more votes than Kiss Prowler
(aside from the fact that I've never gotten a *single* vote until this
year).

How did I get away with it?

--
Jim Caldwell

"The result gives Marvel titles a distinct identity -- a retro-kitsch feel
mixed with a cyber-hip vibe, definitely expressing the "modern" nature of
comic books." - Bill Rosemann, Your Man @ Marvel

Michael R. Grabois ... change $ to "s"

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Mar 30, 2003, 3:58:34 PM3/30/03
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On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 19:20:12 -0600, Jim Caldwell
<james.c...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>in article Xns9347F3D089E99ca...@151.164.30.48, Carl
>Henderson at carl.he...@airmail.net wrote on 3/23/03 11:58 PM:
>
>
>
>Someone's Back On the Pipe Award:
>
>
>> RAC-SPECIFIC CATEGORIES
>> -----------------------
>>
>> FAVORITE R.A.C-ER OF 2002 (NON-CREATORS)
>[snip]
>> 1: ... Jim Caldwell
>
>
>Thanks. I suppose I should be proud I got more votes than Kiss Prowler
>(aside from the fact that I've never gotten a *single* vote until this
>year).
>
>How did I get away with it?

I got 3 votes in the 1997 awards. I don't think anyone ever fessed up about
that one. See http://tinyurl.com/8gws for those results.

Even more amazingly, that year I beat out Mark Evanier, Mark Waid, Steven Grant
(all with 2 votes), Bob Heer, Carl Fink, Elliot S! Maggin, Heidi MacDonald,
Jess Nevins, John Byrne, Kevin Dooley, Larry Hama, Matt Wagner, Mike Baron,
Robin Riggs, and Tom Peyer.

Go figure.

Talon The Merciful

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Apr 4, 2003, 2:47:03 PM4/4/03
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In article <3pe08v09s73jtrvg0...@4ax.com>, Charles says...
>

>>FAVORITE R.A.C-ER OF 2002 (NON-CREATORS)
>>2: Jerry Boyajian (jayembee), Ralf Haring, Charles LePage, Jeff Meyer
>>(Moriarty), Tue Sorensen
>
>I'd like to thank my Mom and Dad for voting for me.

You're more than welcome.

Mom the Merciful

Jim Caldwell

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in article gbme8vgblagfomuib...@4ax.com, Michael R. Grabois
... change $ to "s" at wizardimp$1...@houston.rr.com wrote on 3/30/03 2:58 PM:

I look at that list, and I think of that Bugs Bunny short "What's Up Doc?"
when "that famous vaudevillian" Elmer Fudd goes by and all the guys try to
impress him with their acts. He blows by Jolson, Benny, Cantor, Crosby, and
sees Bugs. Then he says, "Bugs Bunny! What're doing hanging around with
these guys? They'll never amount to anything!"

> Go figure.

Well, actually, I *always* read what you have to say. Some of *those* people
are practically in my killfile.

Well, okay, they aren't. They might be, if some of them still posted around
here, but probably not. Maybe one or two. No, I guess not even them. Still
and all, you get the point.

The Napoleon of Crime

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Apr 7, 2003, 1:36:13 PM4/7/03
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"Michael R. Grabois ... change $ to \"s\"" <wizardimp$1...@houston.rr.com> wrote in message news:<gbme8vgblagfomuib...@4ax.com>...

> Even more amazingly, that year I beat out Mark Evanier, Mark Waid, Steven Grant
> (all with 2 votes), Bob Heer, Carl Fink, Elliot S! Maggin, Heidi MacDonald,
> Jess Nevins, John Byrne, Kevin Dooley, Larry Hama, Matt Wagner, Mike Baron,
> Robin Riggs, and Tom Peyer.

John Byrne? How can you get *away* with that?

Selections from TOP TEN SLOGANS FOR DC COMICS:

8. THE NEW DC: Reminding Gaiman Why He Kept
Creative Control
6. THE NEW DC: A Mandate For Change
5. THE NEW DC: Stop Us Before We Plot Again!
4. THE NEW DC: Because You Can't Spell
"Disappointing Crap" Without DC!
1. THE NEW DC: Can't _Anybody_ Stop Us?

-- Michael Schiffer

Michael R. Grabois ... change $ to "s"

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On 7 Apr 2003 10:36:13 -0700, mori...@fluke.com (The Napoleon of Crime) wrote:

>"Michael R. Grabois ... change $ to \"s\"" <wizardimp$1...@houston.rr.com> wrote in message news:<gbme8vgblagfomuib...@4ax.com>...
>> Even more amazingly, that year I beat out Mark Evanier, Mark Waid, Steven Grant
>> (all with 2 votes), Bob Heer, Carl Fink, Elliot S! Maggin, Heidi MacDonald,
>> Jess Nevins, John Byrne, Kevin Dooley, Larry Hama, Matt Wagner, Mike Baron,
>> Robin Riggs, and Tom Peyer.
>
>John Byrne? How can you get *away* with that?

Beats me. How did I beat out Evanier and Waid in 1997? ButI got three times as
many votes as Byrne, so y'know I got that going for me.

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