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Rob Means

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Apr 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/12/95
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In article <3mhir1$m...@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> jcla...@uoguelph.ca (Jonathan Clayman) writes:
>From: jcla...@uoguelph.ca (Jonathan Clayman)
>Subject: Could Someone Explain Marvel Edge
>Date: 12 Apr 1995 22:05:21 GMT

>I think the subject says it all, I have not been able to read my comics
>lately (they are picked up for me while I'm at University) and have only
>seen this mentioned once in a while.......

>Thanx....


I think it means comics that give you paper cuts.

Jonathan Clayman

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Apr 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/12/95
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I think the subject says it all, I have not been able to read my comics
lately (they are picked up for me while I'm at University) and have only
seen this mentioned once in a while.......

Thanx....

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Christopher L. Tumber

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Apr 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/13/95
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> I think the subject says it all, I have not been able to read my comics
> lately (they are picked up for me while I'm at University) and have only
> seen this mentioned once in a while.......

[From the Marvelution promotional package put out by Marvel]

Some super heroes work in the light of day. Are revered by the general
public. Get endorsed by the government. Are embraced by their peers.

But then, there are others who work in the dark. The fringes of society.
The back alleyways and dirty streets. The swamps. As far away from the
prying eyes and the warm embrace of mankind as they can get.

These latter super heroes populate the new MARVEL EDGE line from Marvel.
Yes, they're super heroes of the Marvel Universe, but their methods are
questionable, and their public supporters few. Some are simply monsters
on the outside, never accepted for the humanity within.

With the creation of this new line, the Editors and I will be attempting
to create a cohesive backdrop for these characters. To do so, we have to
pinpoint what guys like DAREDEVIL, GHOST RIDER, THE PUNISHER, HULK and
DR. STRANGE have in common. These cornerstone characters of the new
MARVEL EDGE line all have a certain renegade quality that will always
force them toward the outskirts of polite society. Their methods are
tougher and their allies seedier.

I hope you'll join us in the future as plans for the new line unfold,
and all manner of craziness begins to happen. I warn you, the heroes you
knew will changing. Some may become villains, some may discover new
friends and allies, and still others will discover things about
themselves that they never knew - or wanted to know - before.

And along with this core, lots of satellite characters and books will be
cropping up to entice you. But the purpose of the MARVEL EDGE line is
for Marvel to have a chance to get a little more daring, which means new
characters, new creators, new genres, new formats. Projects such as
SKULL KILL KREW, FURY, TYPHOID MARY, and a lot of other tantalising
stuff will be along shortly to tempt you. So I deliver a warning to the
other groups within the new Marvel - watch your backs, folks, because
we're planning to be the coolest part of the company - the craziest room
in the House of Ideas!

Bobbie Chase
Editor in Chief, Marvel 2099/Marvel EDGE



[I'll try to refrain from commenting TOO much, except to note that Bobbie
Chase is no Karen Berger and if the reasons behind the firing of
Chichester are as we've heard, I don't have a lot of hope Edge will rise
anywhere above standard superhero fare and offer anything at all
"challenging"]

[Unfortunately, I don't expect I'll see many of them anyway, as I fully
expect Marvel to be only a memory by then...]

[I WOULD buy a Dr. Strange/Spectre crossover or even Dr. Strange/Sandman
crossover though (Sandman vs Nightmare!)]

[Speaking of which, Dr. Strange returns to his old look, as does
Daredevil. Guess I owe a certain writer a big "I told ya so!"]

[Marvel has taken to calling Pencillers "Artists" while still referring
to Inkers as Inkers... I know what I wanna be when I grow up!]

walton matthew david

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Apr 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/13/95
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Jonathan Clayman (jcla...@uoguelph.ca) wrote:
: I think the subject says it all, I have not been able to read my comics
: lately (they are picked up for me while I'm at University) and have only
: seen this mentioned once in a while.......

: Thanx....

They're pretty much the Marvel books that don't contain "X" or
"Spider-Man" anywhere in the title...

Matt


erik j sederberg

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Apr 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/13/95
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In article <3mhir1$m...@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca>,

Jonathan Clayman <jcla...@uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>I think the subject says it all, I have not been able to read my comics
>lately (they are picked up for me while I'm at University) and have only
>seen this mentioned once in a while.......
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> |Jonathan Clayman | "I saw a slow-moving, sad faced |
> |University of Guelph | man, as he bounced off the roof |
> |jcla...@uoguelph.ca | of my car" |
> |Computer Science Program | -Dublin |
> -------------------------------------------------------------
Marvel is attempting to put all of their titles under certain families of
titles...for example there will be a grouping that is called Marvel
Heroes that has Avengers, Cap, Thor, IM, War Mach. etc...then there will
be the mutant family of titles (of which I need not mention what that
will be :) ) Marvel Edge is a family of titles that will include Dare
Devil, Hulk, Punisher, Ghost Rider, maybe Doc. Strange and Druid (forgive
me if I left any out.) This family of titles will be those that are
considered more hard core (as hard core as marvel gets) than the the
classic hero titles and will have an edge to them..thus the name. I hope
this helps...Erik


Martin Bosworth

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Apr 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/13/95
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: [Speaking of which, Dr. Strange returns to his old look, as does
: Daredevil. Guess I owe a certain writer a big "I told ya so!"]

If the first move this supposedly daring imprint makes is to return two heroes
who each got a creative shot in the arm for the first time in YEARS back to
the "classic" look (yawn), then the edge is dull, IMHO.

Martin (wrath, who doesn't buy "imprints", but titles) Bosworth


DG CHI

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Apr 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/14/95
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<If the first move this supposedly daring imprint makes is to return two
heroes who each got a creative shot in the arm for the first time in YEARS
back to the "classic" look (yawn), then the edge is dull, IMHO.>

Bear in mind that from a legal standpoint, "Edge" is closely held by
Steven Grant for a project he's been working up for some time. His lawyers
haven't blinked, leaving Marvel's imprint actually another
Marvelution-like non-word: Marveledge.

All things considered, I find myself focusing on the last 5 letters.

DGC

NICOLA

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Apr 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/14/95
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In article <3mktve$j...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, (DG CHI) writes:
>
> Bear in mind that from a legal standpoint, "Edge" is closely held by
> Steven Grant for a project he's been working up for some time. His lawyers
> haven't blinked, leaving Marvel's imprint actually another
> Marvelution-like non-word: Marveledge.
>
Shouldn't he USE the name to mantain it? I mean, we've been waiting
EDGE # 3 forever! Since Grant is in RACM, I think he could explain what's
happening. Did he leave Bravura?
Nicola

David Alan Carr

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Apr 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/14/95
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dg...@aol.com (DG CHI) writes:

>All things considered, I find myself focusing on the last 5 letters.

>DGC

Okay, I'm assuming that Daredevil is going back to his "classic" look,
undoing everything you did.

So what is your opinion on this?

I would feel like a woman who has just left her abusive husband getting
hit by a bus.

.seBADog.

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Apr 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/14/95
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In article <3mktve$j...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, dg...@aol.com (DG CHI) writes:

> Bear in mind that from a legal standpoint, "Edge" is closely held by
> Steven Grant for a project he's been working up for some time. His
> lawyers haven't blinked, leaving Marvel's imprint actually another
> Marvelution-like non-word: Marveledge.

Neat! Of course, that really just makes it a ripoff of Vertigo's
Ontheledge.

Joev <URL:"http://www.math.harvard.edu/~joev/">

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DG CHI

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Apr 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/14/95
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<Okay, I'm assuming that Daredevil is going back to his "classic" look,
undoing everything you did.

So what is your opinion on this?>

Indicative of an editorial vision (not a company thing, or even a majority
rules attitude) that a) does not understand what helped remake the title
fresh to a readership (yet maintained what was impotrant about him as a
hero/character) and b) does not understand the character's strengths or
appeal. Check the character description on the MarveLedge page: "The blind
hero who can see in the dark." Is that really the best summing up you can
have of Daredevil?

You don't make good on "cutting edge" persona by losing ground.

DGC

Yeechang Lee

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Apr 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/15/95
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walton matthew david <mdwa...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu> says:
| They're pretty much the Marvel books that don't contain "X" or
|"Spider-Man" anywhere in the title...

Whaat? You mean Marvel still publishes such titles? I thought they'd
all been canceled or would be this summer.

Knew things were hopeless when _Namor_ got branded "Earth's First and
Mightiest Mutant" (by Byrne, no less),
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Christopher L. Tumber

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Apr 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/16/95
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DG CHI wrote:

>Check the character description on the MarveLedge page: "The blind
>hero who can see in the dark." Is that really the best summing up you can
>have of Daredevil?

No, that's Dr. Mid-Nite... Has Marvel run out of characters to bring
back from the dead already? Is that why they've started on other
companies?

Heh...

'Though, if someone had told me Daredevil should be a hackeresque-cyber-comic
I would've laughed that off too... Still worked more than it didn't...




BTW: In the "Marvel Edge Business Plan May-July 1995", MARVEL EDGE is
written (and trade marked) in the indicia as two words... Has this
changed since, or what?

David Alan Carr

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Apr 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/17/95
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yl...@locarno.cc.columbia.edu (Yeechang Lee) writes:

>Knew things were hopeless when _Namor_ got branded "Earth's First and
>Mightiest Mutant" (by Byrne, no less),

Oh, I seriously doubt Byrne had anything to do with that.
I can see it now: "Hey Mr. Editor, let's put the word 'mutant' on the cover
so we can generate more sales. Oh, by the way, I'm using such popular
characters as Ka-Zar, Iron Fist, and Plant-Man in my next story arc.
Let's watch the money pour in!"

I don't think so.

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