Moore/Gibbons SPIRIT art for sale
Dave Gibbons
the WATCHMEN-team of Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons, is being auctioned at:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=430403174
--Dave
Daniel McKeown
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Daniel
Danny Sichel
>
> It's funny how the net cops have such double standards around here.
What double standard?
Gibbons got the same polite note everyone gets.
"Last night I dreamed of Doctor Cobra" - brrr.
Omarichu
Well if the regulars weren't such pricks, maybe they'd be treated with a
modicum of courtesy.
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and eat dog food but then you just want to get rid of them and put them out in
the backyard. I mean, that's basically how I feel about sisters in general."
Johanna Draper Carlson
> There is no public message
> (at least not on my server and not recorded at deja.com) of the kind
> that nearly everyone else is subjected to
Actually, at least one netcop has said that he only posts publicly 1 out of
5 or so times; the rest get the note emailed in order to avoid clogging the
groups. So the lack of a public message doesn't mean anything, unless you
want to add calling him a liar to your pointless attack?
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Elayne Riggs
> It's funny how the net cops have such double standards around here.
Aside from pointing out to Dave that "HYPE" might be put at the beginning
of his header to attract more attention to his art, why would his post be
netcopped? It's HIS art, not someone trying to sell someone else's.
- Elayne
Herbert Andress
I just want to get something straight here - it's okay to post Ebay
announcements on racm as long as:
1. It's something I've created myself
2. I include the word "HYPE" in the header
Is this correct?
Herbert
Robert Carnegie
And 3. It's comicbook-related?
Frankly, I'm still uneasy - although from a quick check with
Deja.com it appears that this is the real Dave Gibbons, legendary
time-served comicbook creator and actually _knows_ Alan Moore.
Ebay doesn't credit him as the seller of the artwork, but
presumably the outfit that is doing the selling is his agent.
But Andrew Black's "GUIDE TO POSTING ON REC.ARTS.COMICS.*" says:
> You want to sell your books? Well, rec.arts.comics.marketplace
> exists *solely* to help you do that. [...] Please keep "for sale"
> posts off the other groups.
I reckon that this _includes_ legendary, time-served comicbook
creators, net-wise or not. It includes comicbook companies.
And it's not legally binding, or rigorously enforced. But if
there's a charter somewhereabouts, that _is_ "binding":
breaching that is likely to contravene your Internet connection
provider's rules.
I guess that the alleged "double standard" is that legendary,
time-served comicbook creators may be getting let off the hook.
Except for Mr. Robert Liefeld, of course :-)
Deja.com reports (I think) that Mr. Gibbons ventured into
Usenet last year to correct someone who referred to "Dave Gibbon",
possibly got Spam for Christmas as a result of using a
real e-mail address, and only came back lately /in propria
persona/ to join the _Tomorrow Stories_ #8 discussion, and
then for this.
So I ask myself, how would I feel if a comicbook creator
who participates a lot here were to start posting advertisements?
Like, oh, Kurt Busiek for example?
And I realise: he does. Mr. Busiek's current ".sig" - the
signature repeated after each of his Usenet postings - contains
a line or two pushing the _Superstar_ "ashcan" edition which you
can buy from his company's Web site.
This doesn't necessarily make his posts into "for sale posts" -
as long as he writes something pertinent _before_ the sig.
One recent article in racmu - Deja caught it at
http://www.deja.com/threadmsg_md.xp?AN=666725679&fmt=text -
arguably cuts that pretty fine.
Why did I just pick on Kurt Busiek? Well, gee, I'm a fan. ;-)
One thing I still haven't figured out: what does "ashcan" mean,
anyway? Besides "(1939) A group of 20th century American
painters who depicted city life realistically," which is the
dictionary definition from http://www.m-w.com/ . I don't get it.
Robert Carnegie
Glasgow, Scotland
"What unspeakable horror could have driven men of reason so mad as to
imagine themselves penguins?" (Blurb for _The Doom That Came To Gotham_)
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
BobKinDC
> There is no public message
> (at least not on my server and not recorded at deja.com) of the kind
> that nearly everyone else is subjected to
If you're talking about me...
Yes, indeed, I e-mailed him the very message that has endeared me so to the
good people of this newsgroup. A thorough Deja check will show that I make
public replies to less than half of these.
I'd mentioned elsewhere that if Kurt Busiek, Steve Gerber or even Stan Lee
started posting for-sale notices in the discussion newsgroups, I'd send them
the "please desist" notice. So when Dave Gibbons posted one, I couldn't very
well make an exception. I prefaced it with a lot of fawning and ass-kissing,
but after that, the wording was identical to what I send everybody else.
And Dan, if you don't like the way I handle this particular task, feel free to
step up to the plate yourself to show me how it's properly done.
-------------------------------
--Bob Kennedy Alexandria, VA
Elayne Riggs
Here's how I'd interpret it. If you're an established comic book pro, and
you want to tell people where they can look for your art, where they can
find you at conventions, etc., make a short HYPE post and have done with
it. If you're not an established pro, put it in your sig.
- Elayne
Elayne Riggs
> Frankly, I'm still uneasy - although from a quick check with
> Deja.com it appears that this is the real Dave Gibbons, legendary
> time-served comicbook creator and actually _knows_ Alan Moore.
Yes, it's "the real Dave Gibbons".
> I guess that the alleged "double standard" is that legendary,
> time-served comicbook creators may be getting let off the hook.
I haven't read the rac* charter in awhile, but I believe there is
something in there about how pros can benefit from participating on rac*
because it offers them a good place to hype their stuff. I would consider
this post a hype one rather than a for-sale one, since the well-known pro
who's posting is also the one whose art is for sale.
> Deja.com reports (I think) that Mr. Gibbons ventured into
> Usenet last year to correct someone who referred to "Dave Gibbon",
> possibly got Spam for Christmas as a result of using a
> real e-mail address, and only came back lately /in propria
> persona/ to join the _Tomorrow Stories_ #8 discussion, and
> then for this.
Just because Dave isn't an obsessive poster doesn't mean he isn't a
participant. He's been coming to rac* for awhile, he just tends not to
post very often.
- Elayne
Aaron Michael Newton
: Here's how I'd interpret it. If you're an established comic book pro, and
: you want to tell people where they can look for your art, where they can
: find you at conventions, etc., make a short HYPE post and have done with
: it. If you're not an established pro, put it in your sig.
I don't mean for this to sound snotty, just genuinely curious: what
determines if the creator is an "established pro" or not? Are you
established after your first publication? Second? Tenth?
-Aaron
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Elayne Riggs
> Elayne Riggs <fire...@panix.com> wrote:
> : Here's how I'd interpret it. If you're an established comic book pro, and
> : you want to tell people where they can look for your art, where they can
> : find you at conventions, etc., make a short HYPE post and have done with
> : it. If you're not an established pro, put it in your sig.
> I don't mean for this to sound snotty, just genuinely curious: what
> determines if the creator is an "established pro" or not?
Well, common sense, generally.
- Elayne
Aaron Michael Newton
: Well, common sense, generally.
... you know, that was a pretty straight forward question. And like I said,
I wasn't trying to be snotty. I just can't help but be a bit offended by
your reply.
Talon The Merciless
Heh.
Heh heh.
LOL!
Speechless.... ;)
Talon T M
Absolute Ruler of RACM
BUSH CALLS CLYMER AN "ASSHOLE"
'Perhaps the most telling comment came from a journalist who told
NewsMax.com: "The mistake isn’t calling that reporter an asshole; it’s calling
that asshole a reporter." '
Richard Pace
> Elayne Riggs <fire...@panix.com> wrote:
>
> : Well, common sense, generally.
>
> ... you know, that was a pretty straight forward question. And like I said,
> I wasn't trying to be snotty. I just can't help but be a bit offended by
> your reply.
>
> -Aaron
>
Well, Elayne doesn't hold herself to the same sort of definition of proper
behaviour she expects from others.
A good, safe bet as to what would constitute an established pro is someone who
is generally recognized by the market his work is sold to.
Another definition could include a professional who's been involved in the field
on a professional basis for several years even if he or she isn't that well
known -- either by diverse or infrequent assignments or engaging in multiple
styles.
Richard Pace
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Elayne Riggs
> : Well, common sense, generally.
> ... you know, that was a pretty straight forward question. And like I said,
> I wasn't trying to be snotty. I just can't help but be a bit offended by
> your reply.
I don't know why. It was a pretty straightforward response, and I wasn't
trying to be snotty either.
- Elayne
Danny Sichel
> > > It's funny how the net cops have such double standards around here.
> > What double standard?
> > Gibbons got the same polite note everyone gets.
> Bzzzzt. I'm sorry, you don't win the money. There is no public message
> (at least not on my server and not recorded at deja.com) of the kind
> that nearly everyone else is subjected to:
> <insert name here>
> I haven't seen your name here before, so I'm guessing you're new.
(snip)
> Oh yeah, _that_ double standard.
no, that's *Bob Kennedy's* warning note.
*I* sent Gibbons the same polite warning note I send everyone.
You don't think Bob is the only one who cares about this sort of thing,
do you?
He's just the only one who (occasionally) posts the warning notes to the
newsgroups.
> Besides which, this message is a little more patronizing than polite
> IMHO.
Well, that's Bob's version, and it assumes that the seller was acting
out of total ignorance.
My version is shorter, but less informative - it says WHAT one should
do, but not WHY.
Tom Galloway
>>Aside from pointing out to Dave that "HYPE" might be put at the beginning
>>of his header to attract more attention to his art, why would his post be
>>netcopped? It's HIS art, not someone trying to sell someone else's.
>announcements on racm as long as:
>1. It's something I've created myself
>2. I include the word "HYPE" in the header
>Is this correct?
Nope.
While a few years back I was ambivalent about original art being pitched
outside of rac.marketplace, with more pros on Usenet and EBay coming to the
fore, I'm now strongly behind original art for sale posts only going to
rac.marketplace.
The [HYPE] convention is meant for pushing, for lack of a better term,
non-limited or generally available items. So, for example, Dave Gibbons
posting a HYPE: post about how he thinks his work in Spirit Adventures
#1 is the cat's pajamas and people should check it out (posted either
before the book comes out, or simultaneous with its apperance on the shelves)
is fine, since that's something everyone here can go pick up. Posting about
original art for sale, or his personal stash of signed copies of Spirit
Adventures #1 for sale, or whatever, should go to rac.marketplace since
the quantity is limited to what he himself has on hand.
Perhaps a reasonable metric would be "Is the thing I'm hyping potentially
available to someone walking into any comics store" (i.e. the store could
order it, even if they in fact didn't). If yes, it's a HYPE post. If no,
and it's a personal sale thing where money goes directly from poster to you
only, it should go to rac.marketplace.
tyg t...@netcom.com
Carl Henderson
>It's funny how the net cops have such double standards around here.
What double standard? I emailed Dave Gibbons the same note telling him about
RAC.marketplace and why you should not post ads to RAC.misc that I send most
people posting ads here.
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Carl Henderson
>>Aside from pointing out to Dave that "HYPE" might be put at the beginning
>>of his header to attract more attention to his art, why would his post be
>>netcopped? It's HIS art, not someone trying to sell someone else's.
>I just want to get something straight here - it's okay to post Ebay
>announcements on racm as long as:
>
>1. It's something I've created myself
>2. I include the word "HYPE" in the header
>
>Is this correct?
No. As far as I know the consensus here on "HYPE:" posts is what I've written
into the RAC/RACM FAQ:
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1-18: WHAT IS A "HYPE:" POST, AND WHEN SHOULD I MAKE ONE?
Although--in general--ads on RAC newsgroups (except for RAC.marketplace) are
prohibited, there is one exception--"HYPE:" posts. The general consensus of
the RAC community is that HYPE: posts are not spam, as long as they are:
1) properly labeled with the "HYPE:" keyword,
2) posted by--or on behalf of--one of the creators of the comic being
promoted, and
3) intended as general promotion for a comic ("HYPE:" posts may not be used
for selling individual copies of such comics. Posts directly offering
comics for sale--whether by one of the creators of the comic or not--are
restricted to RAC.marketplace),
4) not posted in excess (no more than a few posts for any specific
project), and
5) the comic being hyped is otherwise on-topic for the group(s) it is being
promoted in.
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Comic professionals should no more sell their original art on RAC.misc than I
should sell off my tarot deck collection.
Someone tell me if I'm mistaken about this...
surdamon
why don't you go away?
--
"We have a budget surplus but a deficit in values"-
George W. Bush, ignoring the lowest crime rates and the greatest
focus on human rights in a generation, instead choosing
to attack his opponent.
Steven Rowe
>
>should sell off my tarot deck collection.
>
>Someone tell me if I'm mistaken about this...
You are not mistaken.
You are clearly not mistaken, and I wonder why someone would think you are....
Steven Rowe
Talon The Merciless
carl.he...@airmail.net says...
>
>In article <39B8471D...@surpac.com>, Daniel McKeown <dan...@surpac.com>
>wrote:
>>It's funny how the net cops have such double standards around here.
>
>What double standard? I emailed Dave Gibbons the same note telling him about
>RAC.marketplace and why you should not post ads to RAC.misc that I send most
>people posting ads here.
And Daniel, save for some limited butt-kissing, people here on RACM are usually
much rougher with pros than with regular posters.
Aaron Michael Newton
: I don't know why. It was a pretty straightforward response, and I wasn't
: trying to be snotty either.
Because it reads as a glib and aloof response in the absence of disclaimers
to the contrary.
When someone asks a question, and the returned answer is "It's common sense"
it is usually not the nice way to respond because it implies the person
asking the question lacks said common sense, or they wouldn't be asking
the question.
Regardless of what many have said of you in the past onthis newsgroup, I've
never personally had conflict with you and have always come to expect
friendly (or at the very least cordial) dialogue. Thats why this response
came as such a shock.
Elayne Riggs
> : I don't know why. It was a pretty straightforward response, and I wasn't
> : trying to be snotty either.
> Because it reads as a glib and aloof response in the absence of disclaimers
> to the contrary.
Well, I'm sorry that's how you read it. I assure you it was not my
intent, particularly considering how graciously you worded your question.
I think the problem may be that, despite your wording, you seem to have
wanted me to answer in a specific way, so when I didn't give you the
answer you apparently wanted you took offense at what I *did* say,
mistaking the "tone" as glib or hostile. Unfortunately, I have no control
over that, other than to assure you again that such was not my intention.
- Elayne
Elayne Riggs
> In article <8pb6sm$rjr$1...@news.panix.com>,
> Elayne Riggs <fire...@panix.com> wrote:
>>Here's how I'd interpret it. If you're an established comic book pro, and
>>you want to tell people where they can look for your art, where they can
>>find you at conventions, etc., make a short HYPE post and have done with
>>it. If you're not an established pro, put it in your sig.
> So if you're an established pro and you're telling people where to look for
> your art, you're allowed to violate the charters and post marketplace
> articles on here?
If you're an established pro, and you want to let people know where
they can find your stuff, I don't think making a short HYPE post is
unreasonable. I do think it's unreasonable for someone who had nothing to
do with the creation of a comic to post an ad selling someone else's work.
It's one of those things where I'd adhere more to the spirit of a charter
than the letter thereof, but I can certainly understand some people coming
down on the other side. Go in peace.
- Elayne
Robert Carnegie
And do you mind if I ride on your coat-tails to apologise for
overlooking the "HYPE" exception in the FAQ policy which I quoted?
Despite your actually _mentioning_ the word and its usage.
Although actually, I feel that that's a defect in the FAQ - I just
recently got similarly burned by a UNIX manual page (like a Web
page) where the information I knew to look for and the information
that I actually needed were in different places. A clause closer at
hand in the FAQ - "the exception is 'HYPE' posts, see below" (or above?)
- would have put me right straight away. After all, the only reason
for that document to be bullet-pointed is the expectation that we
_won't_ bother to read the whole thing, but will go for what we
happen to be looking for at the moment.
I do think, too, that it's impossible to draw a line between
"established comicbook pros" and wannabees. Well, let 'em come,
and if in _our_ opinion they aren't established pros, they can
be ignored. Those of us with more sophisticated newsreaders can
also filter out "HYPE" posts wholesale to be read separately -
or not at all.
Elayne Riggs
> Elayne Riggs <fire...@panix.com> wrote:
>> If you're an established pro, and you want to let people know where
>> they can find your stuff, I don't think making a short HYPE post is
>> unreasonable. I do think it's unreasonable for someone who had nothing to
>> do with the creation of a comic to post an ad selling someone else's work.
>>
>> It's one of those things where I'd adhere more to the spirit of a charter
>> than the letter thereof, but I can certainly understand some people coming
>> down on the other side. Go in peace.
> And do you mind if I ride on your coat-tails to apologise for
> overlooking the "HYPE" exception in the FAQ policy which I quoted?
> Despite your actually _mentioning_ the word and its usage.
Well, that's understandable, because as Tyg pointed out there are netcops
who believe Dave Gibbons violated the charter, period, by posting a for-
sale post even though it was his own professional comics work that was for
sale, and that "HYPE" doesn't cover that instance. My opinion is that
"HYPE" ought to, and I further speculate that the insistence of many
people at adhering to the letter of the charter rather than the spirit
(pardon the pun) thereof, while perfectly valid and understandable, is one
of the reasons more established pros don't bother participating here.
And yes, I admit I'm also one of those who believes that the newsgroup is
poorer for their lack of participation.
- Elayne
John McMahon
> My opinion is that "HYPE" ought to, and I further speculate that the
> insistence of many people at adhering to the letter of the charter
> rather than the spirit (pardon the pun) thereof, while perfectly valid
> and understandable, is one of the reasons more established pros don't
> bother participating here.
Ted who produces his own shitty little ashcan once every six months
should then be as entitled to sell his wares here as say Dave
Gibbons. It's the signal to noise ratio which keeps most 'pros'
away from here, not the fact that they're not allowed to hawk their
wares.
J.
Nat Gertler
>
> I think the problem may be that, despite your wording, you seem to have
> wanted me to answer in a specific way, so when I didn't give you the
> answer you apparently wanted you took offense at what I *did* say,
> mistaking the "tone" as glib or hostile. Unfortunately, I have no control
> over that, other than to assure you again that such was not my intention.
I think the problem is that when you tell someone that
the answer to their question is "common sense", it suggests
that they do not have common sense or they wouldn't have
had to ask. It was a snotty answer, whether you meant it
that way or not.
David J. Snyder
Elayne Riggs <fire...@panix.com> wrote:
>sale, and that "HYPE" doesn't cover that instance. My opinion is that
>"HYPE" ought to, and I further speculate that the insistence of many
>people at adhering to the letter of the charter rather than the spirit
>(pardon the pun) thereof, while perfectly valid and understandable, is one
>of the reasons more established pros don't bother participating here.
And some of us disagree on you in what the spirit of the charter
is. I think a fundamental part of the spirit is "Equal opportunities
for all participants," which apparently runs contrary to your
interpretation.
-Dave
Michael Alan Chary
Elayne seems to be under the impression that comics pros are simply better
human beings than other people merely because of the source of their
income.
Such sublime and ethereal personages should not be expected to sully
themselves by reading the words of we unworthy few.
In fact, it is our duty as comics fans to make these august members of the
comics profession realize that we Useent participants are not fit for
their presence.
--
Richard Pace
Michael Alan Chary wrote:
> In article <gH7v5.599681$MB.91...@news6.giganews.com>,
> David J. Snyder <da...@fnord.io.com> wrote:
> >In article <8pis58$m7r$1...@news.panix.com>,
> >Elayne Riggs <fire...@panix.com> wrote:
> >>sale, and that "HYPE" doesn't cover that instance. My opinion is that
> >>"HYPE" ought to, and I further speculate that the insistence of many
> >>people at adhering to the letter of the charter rather than the spirit
> >>(pardon the pun) thereof, while perfectly valid and understandable, is one
> >>of the reasons more established pros don't bother participating here.
> >
> >And some of us disagree on you in what the spirit of the charter
> >is. I think a fundamental part of the spirit is "Equal opportunities
> >for all participants," which apparently runs contrary to your
> >interpretation.
> >
>
> Elayne seems to be under the impression that comics pros are simply better
> human beings than other people merely because of the source of their
> income.
There must be some reason why we work for so little!
> Such sublime and ethereal personages should not be expected to sully
> themselves by reading the words of we unworthy few.
Actually, more than a few artists I know can barely read . . . .some writers,
too.
> In fact, it is our duty as comics fans to make these august members of the
> comics profession realize that we Useent participants are not fit for
> their presence.
I thought that was just talon?
Richard
>
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Elayne Riggs
> In article <8pis58$m7r$1...@news.panix.com>,
> Elayne Riggs <fire...@panix.com> wrote:
>>sale, and that "HYPE" doesn't cover that instance. My opinion is that
>>"HYPE" ought to, and I further speculate that the insistence of many
>>people at adhering to the letter of the charter rather than the spirit
>>(pardon the pun) thereof, while perfectly valid and understandable, is one
>>of the reasons more established pros don't bother participating here.
> And some of us disagree on you in what the spirit of the charter
> is.
Oh, very true. I thought my post implied that.
> I think a fundamental part of the spirit is "Equal opportunities
> for all participants," which apparently runs contrary to your
> interpretation.
And contrary to the way this newsgroup often operates in practice, where
industry pros are accorded more deference in certain matters than fans,
which is logical because they make their living from comics whereas to
fans it's just a hobby.
- Elayne
Michael Alan Chary
The "reec" in rec.arts.comics.* stands for "recreation." I invite anyone
who wants to use it for something other than recreation to go sleep it
off.
Aaron Michael Newton
: Well, I'm sorry that's how you read it. I assure you it was not my
: intent, particularly considering how graciously you worded your question.
I understand that now. Thanks for the explaination/clarification.
Elayne Riggs
> : Well, I'm sorry that's how you read it. I assure you it was not my
> : intent, particularly considering how graciously you worded your question.
> I understand that now. Thanks for the explaination/clarification.
You're very welcome. And I understand, thanks to Nat, why my post was
misread. All's cool again.
- Elayne
Robert Carnegie
I do think that any pro probably brings more to this party than I do,
for instance. Most of us are just kibitzing, but those guys are into
this stuff full time. And we can walk in here off the street and
start typing - thoose whio caan tpye - but they some of these writer
people can write so good to get paid for it with money. Because
they write good. Their literite.
[ ;-) ]
Now, artists, feh.
So, did that SPIRIT sale at Ebay close yet? Did anyone here get
good stuff cheap? Are you having it bronzed?
BobKinDC
>Aside from pointing out to Dave that "HYPE" might be put at the beginning
>of his header to attract more attention to his art, why would his post be
>netcopped? It's HIS art, not someone trying to sell someone else's.
It's really quite simple: HYPE refers to the promotion of a work currently on
the stands. Provided the word HYPE is in the header, it's fine.
FS and FA items, where someone is directly selling comics or comics-related
stuff directly (or through an auction site) is different. It belongs in
rac.marketplace, regardless of whether the vendor actually drew the piece or
not. This is the case whether it's some kid selling his back issues of
TRANSFORMERS, or a respected pro selling his original work. The rationale is
spelled out very clearly in the FAQ.
-------------------
--Bob Kennedy Alexandria, VA
Elayne Riggs
> Elayne Riggs wrote:
>>Aside from pointing out to Dave that "HYPE" might be put at the beginning
>>of his header to attract more attention to his art, why would his post be
>>netcopped? It's HIS art, not someone trying to sell someone else's.
> It's really quite simple: HYPE refers to the promotion of a work currently on
> the stands. Provided the word HYPE is in the header, it's fine.
It actually refers to promotion of one's own presence, period. Steve
Lieber and Lea Hernandez use HYPE correctly, for instance, to publicize
their upcoming con appearances. I don't think it's too much of a stretch
to allow for promotion of one's original art (or scripts) for sale as
well, although personally if I were doing that I'd probably do it in a
sig.
- Elayne