Great Writer/Artist Teams
Rich Johnston
Neil Gaiman and Dave McKean
Dave Sim and Gerhard
Alan Moore and Rick Veitch
Alan Moore and Alan Davis
Dave McKinnon and Terry Wiley
and the best creative team for fiction:
Alvaro and DGood.
8-)
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Rich Johnston- r.j.jo...@ncl.ac.uk
Creator of Dirtbag- should be out in August.
"Talk me some road!"- Chris Morris, The Day Today.
Basho
>And of course:
>Neil Gaiman and Dave McKean
>Dave Sim and Gerhard
>Alan Moore and Rick Veitch
>Alan Moore and Alan Davis
>Dave McKinnon and Terry Wiley
>Rich Johnston- r.j.jo...@ncl.ac.uk
hmm....how about
Alan Moore and Goya
Neil Gaiman and Francis (?) Bacon
Phil Foglio (Xxxenophile only) and Reubens (sp?)
Grant Morrison and Picasso
Peter David and Michelangelo (sp?)
Basho
who has no artistic ability
Allen Ka-Lun Au
Frank Miller and Edward Hopper
A J P Ducker (UG3)
|> Frank Miller and Edward Hopper
I always thought Frank Miller and Frank Miller made the best combination
Samael
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Alvaro E Pereira
|> And of course:
|> Neil Gaiman and Dave McKean
|> Dave Sim and Gerhard
|> Alan Moore and Rick Veitch
|> Alan Moore and Alan Davis
|> Dave McKinnon and Terry Wiley
|>
|>
|> and the best creative team for fiction:
|> Alvaro and DGood.
|> 8-)
|>
OK, I've put up with this kind of stuff for too long. So, R.J. thinks I
write fiction. What about him? He sent me a review of Sleaze Castle that was
way off the mark. Thus, I challenge R.J. to debate me on which is a better
comic: Warriors of Plasm (I'll even take on the Shooter issues) and Tales from
Sleaze Castle. How about it?
------
Alvaro P.
Alvaro E Pereira
|>
|> Alan Moore and Goya
|> Neil Gaiman and Francis (?) Bacon
|> Phil Foglio (Xxxenophile only) and Reubens (sp?)
|> Grant Morrison and Picasso
|> Peter David and Michelangelo (sp?)
|>
You're not serious about these? Are you? PAD and Michelangelo? Moore
and Goya? I'm laughing extremely loud right now. Comics are not fine art, not
even close, or far away for that matter.
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Alvaro P.
John Holbrook (PAD)
> OK, I've put up with this kind of stuff for too long. So, R.J. thinks I
>write fiction. What about him? He sent me a review of Sleaze Castle that was
>way off the mark. Thus, I challenge R.J. to debate me on which is a better
>comic: Warriors of Plasm (I'll even take on the Shooter issues) and Tales from
>Sleaze Castle. How about it?
>------
>Alvaro P.
...there is a "winner" to be found between these two??? :)
Best,
John
Nobodaddy
I'm not sure if saying comics aren't fine art is a put-down or not, bu tif
it is, I think you are being what they call "snotty", what they call "on a
high horse", what they call "silly". Labels like fine art are pretty
useless. Don't you mean OLD art? I personally get at least as much out of
a great comic as a work of "fine" art. Now, you can debate what's agreat
comic, but I'd put someone like Jack Kirby up against artists such as the
above any day, and I am completely serious. I'll agree that most people
wouldn't say comics are "fine art" PRECISELY, but whatever they are is just
as good (better to me). They're art and they're fine as far as I'm
concerned.
Basho
well....call it a quarter serious. I just thought I'd inject a note of
levity into the Writer-Artist thread, but I also sought to match the
artist to the writer whose style was most appropriate. The only one I'm
really wedded to is the Moore-Goya team, because of all the writers, only
_Swamp Thing_-era Moore comes (IMNSHO, of course), closest to Art.
You may flame me when ready, Gridley.
Basho
"But Fido is in too much of a hurry to worry about the good neighbor
policy. Jack the sound barrier. Bring the noise."
Mean Mister Mustard
>aepe...@athena.mit.edu (Alvaro E Pereira) writes:
>
>>In article <jnevins.767795304@bgsuvax>, jne...@bgsu.edu (Basho) writes:
>>|>
>>|> Alan Moore and Goya
>>|>
>
>>and Goya? I'm laughing extremely loud right now. Comics are not fine art, not
>>even close, or far away for that matter.
>>------
>>Alvaro P.
>
>well....call it a quarter serious. I just thought I'd inject a note of
>levity into the Writer-Artist thread, but I also sought to match the
>artist to the writer whose style was most appropriate. The only one I'm
>really wedded to is the Moore-Goya team, because of all the writers, only
>_Swamp Thing_-era Moore comes (IMNSHO, of course), closest to Art.
Gee, I thought it was because in one of his earliest isssues of Swamp Thing,
Moore did work with Goya... :)
No, really, he did. "The sleep of reason produces monsters..."
And yes, that run certainly is art. Comics art, but art nontheless. And
damn good comics art.
Marc
Basho
>>well....call it a quarter serious. I just thought I'd inject a note of
>>levity into the Writer-Artist thread, but I also sought to match the
>>artist to the writer whose style was most appropriate. The only one I'm
>>really wedded to is the Moore-Goya team, because of all the writers, only
>>_Swamp Thing_-era Moore comes (IMNSHO, of course), closest to Art.
>Gee, I thought it was because in one of his earliest isssues of Swamp Thing,
>Moore did work with Goya... :)
>No, really, he did. "The sleep of reason produces monsters..."
>And yes, that run certainly is art. Comics art, but art nontheless. And
>damn good comics art.
>Marc
I will admit that some of the Bissette/Totlebein art of that run made me
think of Goya - and of course the "Sleep of reason" was in my mind when I
matched Goya and Moore.
Ah, the good old days, when Moore was doing stuff for DC...
Old Man Basho
A J P Ducker (UG3)
|> >>In article <jnevins.767795304@bgsuvax>, jne...@bgsu.edu (Basho) writes:
|> >>|>
|> >>|> Alan Moore and Goya
|> >>|>
|>
|> No, really, he did. "The sleep of reason produces monsters..."
|>
|> And yes, that run certainly is art. Comics art, but art nontheless. And
|> damn good comics art.
Whoaaahh there. That's fighting talk where I come from, partner (COmics
Email, that is). How would painter feel if I said 'Sistine Chapel is
certianly art. Painting art, but art nevertheless'. They'd be
offended, that's what they'd be. Now, are you trying to sy that comic
art is less than other art?? 'Cos i you are, you're wrong. Dead wrong..
Mean Mister Mustard
A J P Ducker (UG3) <a...@dinar.cs.stir.ac.uk> wrote:
>|>
>|> And yes, that run certainly is art. Comics art, but art nontheless. And
>|> damn good comics art.
>
>Whoaaahh there. That's fighting talk where I come from, partner (COmics
>Email, that is). How would painter feel if I said 'Sistine Chapel is
>certianly art. Painting art, but art nevertheless'. They'd be
>offended, that's what they'd be. Now, are you trying to sy that comic
>art is less than other art?? 'Cos i you are, you're wrong. Dead wrong..
>
Well, they wouldn't be offended if I said the Sistine Chapel was Great
Painting Art in a discussion about, say, opera. Or performance art. Or
short stories. Beacause they are all different mediums (media?), comic
art being one medium among many.
I guess you missed an earlier post where someone said that comics could
never compare to "fine art." My comment was to clarify that comics art is
different from painting, but still a valid medium of art nevertheless.
Not less. Or more. Just diferent. So you can put your six-guns away.
By the way, saying someone is "wrong. Dead wrong." ain't the best way
to start a calm, thoughtful discussion. :)
Fortunately, this here town ("Racmisc Gulch") warn't built for thoughtful,
calm discussion. But we can always try.
Marc
Allen Ka-Lun Au
What do you consider as fine art? I consider comics as a legimite art
form, if not just for the stories. I think pitting a comics writer works
with classical artists. Remember, Art in the classical times were
commisioned by rich people, making them _commerical artists_ last time I
check, people who do art for comic books are _commerical artists_