UXM Annual#9
A. Gerard
NMSP, I feel its worth a discussion (Why didn't you do a thread of
this, CleV?). I admit that I got part 2 before part 1, which gave some
amazement to just how much a story the NMSP probably had in it.
Anyway, things to note:
- I felt the print took a slight descent in quality, due to the paper
difference of the two X-books. Art Adams' work is undeserving of
smudgy newsprint. Still, its better than the condition on UXM
Annual#10.
- A lot of head-cramming on the issue box.
- A dress-code that was also apparent in part 1: the NM dress code is
black-shoulders/yellow-collars for males,
yellow-shoulders/black-collars for girls. NM GN made this distinction,
but most of the artists (save for Adams and Belvins) avoided it.
- Is Rogue really streaking? Gee, a lot of X-Men sleep in the buff!
- Was Rachel's ability to create psi-images ever explained as a unique
power to her, or can all telepaths do it?
- In the psi-image of the en-vined NM, is that fat Karma in far right?
- Did Kitty or Logan say the NM were no match for Loki? It would be
typical NM-bashing Kitty, though.
- What's Xavier doing in England? Something to do with Magneto's
trial?
- This is probably our last happy image of Scott and Madelyne's
relationship, before it went straight downhill.
- Like Rachel's costume. Hate Peter's.
- The NM thoughts and hopes are supposedly connected with their Asgard
adventure (Roberto- avoid prejudice, Sam- help Storm, etc.). Would
that mean Rahne's relationship with Dani is supposed to be someway
related to her thing with the wolf prince? Hm.
- I like how Sam becomes Shaggy in this adventure. Would that make
Amara Scooby Doo?
- Wolverine and his anti-hunting view (UXM#109).
- Drawing Thor characters must be an artist's dream in creativity.
- Is Hela just bugging Rachel? Considering the death goddess' only
interested in Asgardian folk, Norse worshippers, or anyone worth her
interest, I don't think the Asparagus people that John Byrne wasted
would apply to any of those standards (unless she gets fired up in
feeling people's death).
- How are the NM able to view through Warlock's cam?
- Nice clothing changes. Rahne's the only one with her costume intact.
Characteristic Illyana costume. Why's Doug still wearing his collar?
- Did Cyclops ever find out about Rachel? The MU handbook implies that
he might, and Cyke's no dummy in something like this (unless he was
like Xavier, who failed to notice Legion's resemblance). Perhaps he
just pretended to be ignorant to respect her wishes (e.g. UXM#199).
- I would have liked to see a Cyclops-Illyana interaction. It seems
most of the X-Men gave her little notice (or credit- e.g. Inferno).
- The first Doug-Locke fusion.
- If Rogue absorbed Cyke's power, how could she control it? Something
from the animated series.
- Evidently Dani's death image hadn't yet matured into the
death-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder effect. Don't think Wolverine sees
death as a horned skull.
- Wasn't Rahne's Loki-enchanted wolfen form on the NMSP cover?
- Could Marvel still allow a drawing of the Enterprise, considering
they once owned the rights for their Marv Wolfman-Dave Cockrum series?
Anyone like that series?
- Warlock's disguise.
- On the left-panel pg. 34, we see Hawkman and Steppenwolf.
- Did Dani know about the Valkyrie title beforehand? She mentions the
Valkryior to Hela after the revelation.
- I love Hela's reason for departure. Shows respect in continuity.
- Typical brave-youngster scene.
- Just how far does the 'soulmate' meaning go for Illyana? 'Course, it
doesn't have to take a sexual or romantic meaning, like SEX IN THE
CITY'S Charlotte heterosexually calling her friends 'soulmates.'
- Roberto's decision to go back to Earth is rather contrived.
- Group picture (like in the NMSP). Romita Jr. really changed some of
the costumes in UXM#200.
- Whatever happened to:
-Cyke's teleportational lightning bolts?
-Eitri the Dwarf King?
-The Wolf Prince?
-Mist and her Valkryior?
- This story was tweaked (very much) in a 'What If?' issue. The factor
was that Rahne refused to leave wolfie, so Loki decided to teleport
half of the two teams back to Earth. Among the contrived positions:
Go-home Sam stays (marries and knocks up Eitri's daughter), Doug
remains while Warlock leaves (?!), and Rogue is able to touch in
Asgard (of the NM, only Amara, 'Locke, and Shan go home). The result
eventually has Storm becoming Asgard's regent, Dani as the goddess of
Hel, and Rahne becoming a widowed mother of cubs and babes. Also has
Loki manipulating all this to favor the Gods (in the X-Men/Alpha
Flight LS) to become ruler of Asgard (he gets a ruin in the future).
Samy Merchi
> his collar? - Did Cyclops ever find out about Rachel? The MU
> handbook implies that he might, and Cyke's no dummy in something
> like this (unless he was like Xavier, who failed to notice
> Legion's resemblance). Perhaps he just pretended to be ignorant
> to respect her wishes (e.g. UXM#199). - I would have liked to see
Didn't they deal with this to some degree in DAYS OF FUTURE PRESENT?
(The four annuals in...'90? Give or take a year.)
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BlakGard
>- A lot of head-cramming on the issue box.
>- A dress-code that was also apparent in part 1: the NM dress code is
>black-shoulders/yellow-collars for males,
>yellow-shoulders/black-collars for girls. NM GN made this distinction,
>but most of the artists (save for Adams and Belvins) avoided it.
>- Is Rogue really streaking? Gee, a lot of X-Men sleep in the buff!
>- Was Rachel's ability to create psi-images ever explained as a unique
>power to her, or can all telepaths do it?
It's not a separate power. It's simply a use of telepathy.
>- This is probably our last happy image of Scott and Madelyne's
>relationship, before it went straight downhill.
Yup. <dances>
>- Did Cyclops ever find out about Rachel? The MU handbook implies that
>he might, and Cyke's no dummy in something like this (unless he was
>like Xavier, who failed to notice Legion's resemblance). Perhaps he
>just pretended to be ignorant to respect her wishes (e.g. UXM#199).
>- I would have liked to see a Cyclops-Illyana interaction. It seems
>most of the X-Men gave her little notice (or credit- e.g. Inferno).
>- The first Doug-Locke fusion.
I thought their first soulmerge was in NM Annual #2.
>- If Rogue absorbed Cyke's power, how could she control it? Something
>from the animated series.
The lack of control does not come from genetics but a physical injury.
Genetically, Scott has the ability to control his blasts in the form of an
extraneous area of his brain, but this area was damaged when he and Alex
jumped out of their parents' airplane during the Shi'ar attack.
>- Could Marvel still allow a drawing of the Enterprise, considering
>they once owned the rights for their Marv Wolfman-Dave Cockrum series?
>Anyone like that series?
They probably could still draw it, but not because they once owned the rights
to a Star Trek comic book. This right ended when their contract with Paramount
ended. It could very well be argued that an image of the Enterprise has lapsed
into the public domain (just not an image owned by Paramount), but Paramount
could still sue over any use of any spacecraft bearing a resemblance to the
Enterprise. However, I'd bet they wouldn't think it worthy of their notice,
much like
I doubt Marvel paid Michael Jackson any money for one of their characters
singing
one of his songs during the first Secret Wars, and I doubt Michael noticed.
-=[ The BlakGard ]=-
"Somewhere there's danger;
somewhere there's injustice,
and somewhere else the tea is getting cold!"
Ruth
>
> - What's Xavier doing in England? Something to do with Magneto's
> trial?
> - Did Cyclops ever find out about Rachel? The MU handbook implies that
> he might, and Cyke's no dummy in something like this (unless he was
> like Xavier, who failed to notice Legion's resemblance). Perhaps he
> just pretended to be ignorant to respect her wishes (e.g. UXM#199).
Confusion reigns: actually it was heavily implied that he had figured
it out by th end of the X-Men/Alpha fligh LS, but then he seemed to be
ignorant (all the whilw having no idea why Rachle wanted to spend
quality time with him) and seemed totally thunder-struck when Rachel
revelaed who she was in he Days of future Present crossover.
> - If Rogue absorbed Cyke's power, how could she control it? Something
> from the animated series.
Allegeldy Scott cannot control his powers due to some brain
damage/head trauma he received when he fell from his parents' plane.
Rogue absorbed the power but not the brain damage, hence she has
control.
> - Just how far does the 'soulmate' meaning go for Illyana? 'Course, it
> doesn't have to take a sexual or romantic meaning, like SEX IN THE
> CITY'S Charlotte heterosexually calling her friends 'soulmates.'
I would have settled with Claremont offering an explanation for their
soulmate link actually...
.
Brian Doyle
"A. Gerard" <anmc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Anyway, things to note:
> - Is Rogue really streaking? Gee, a lot of X-Men sleep in the buff!
If you had to spend all day in restrictive, body covering clothing, you'd
probably want to at least sleep nude
> - Did Kitty or Logan say the NM were no match for Loki? It would be
> typical NM-bashing Kitty, though.
Though there is more than a smidgem of truth. They're the trainee mutants,
going up againsta God who has confounded Thor for centuries and taken on
the Avengers without sweating.
> - What's Xavier doing in England? Something to do with Magneto's
> trial?
On his way from visting Moira to his meeting in Paris?
> - Like Rachel's costume.
Yup, simple, gaudy and striking!
> - I like how Sam becomes Shaggy in this adventure. Would that make
> Amara Scooby Doo?
I see Warlock more in that role.
> - Drawing Thor characters must be an artist's dream in creativity.
Any Kirby fetishist artist is going to think they've died and gone to
Valhalla!
> - Is Hela just bugging Rachel? Considering the death goddess' only
> interested in Asgardian folk, Norse worshippers, or anyone worth her
> interest, I don't think the Asparagus people that John Byrne wasted
> would apply to any of those standards (unless she gets fired up in
> feeling people's death).
Death is one concept with multiple facets. At that point it's possible Hela
was just channelling more of the abstract cosmic primciple of Death than she
normally does.
> - How are the NM able to view through Warlock's cam?
The Enchantress has cable! :)
> - Why's Doug still wearing his collar?
I wondered about that. Possibly to save more confrontations with Asgardians
like in the meadhall, as a vassal, he would be a sort of Asgardian
untouchable to most people.
> - The first Doug-Locke fusion.
Not quite a soulmerge fusion, as it seems to be only a borrowing of lifeglow
rather than a pure fusion. But it IS the only time we see Lock taking energy
from a living being without actively infecting them (Or maybe he did as
later NM's suggested).
> - If Rogue absorbed Cyke's power, how could she control it? Something
> from the animated series.
Power - Genetic, Rogue copies.
Lack of control -Due to physical brain injury; not copied.
> - Evidently Dani's death image hadn't yet matured into the
> death-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder effect. Don't think Wolverine sees
> death as a horned skull.
In Asgard he might, since it would probably be a recurring motif.. or
something..
> - Could Marvel still allow a drawing of the Enterprise, considering
> they once owned the rights for their Marv Wolfman-Dave Cockrum series?
Or it's just a quick homage, not something most licence holders would get
nitty about. It's not a plot point, just a sight gag.
> - Warlock's disguise.
Love it! "Warlock, this is NOT a great disguise"
> - Whatever happened to:
> -Cyke's teleportational lightning bolts?
He'd used them up. Arkon left him a finite quantity.
> - This story was tweaked (very much) in a 'What If?' issue.
Yeah, fun story though!
> half of the two teams back to Earth. Among the contrived positions:
> Go-home Sam stays (marries and knocks up Eitri's daughter), Doug
> remains while Warlock leaves (?!)
Yes, they made Doug someone who was fascinated by research, which wasn't
really in his personality. Reading was his power, not his vocation, and he'd
go nuts without a computer! But he did get the respect of all Asgard,
appeared to have pulled by the end of the story (He and as Asgardian chick
are standing very cosily) and has the advantage of being very not dead!
Christian Henriksson
Gerard) sayeth thus:
>- Just how far does the 'soulmate' meaning go for Illyana? 'Course, it
>doesn't have to take a sexual or romantic meaning, like SEX IN THE
>CITY'S Charlotte heterosexually calling her friends 'soulmates.'
In my copy (admittedly, a Swedish translation) it's Mist talking about
soul mates with Dani. Which was picked up on in "Kid Dynamo". :)
Christian Henriksson
(christianhenriksson @ telia.com)
--
"Keep the city clean!
Eat a pigeon every day."
CleV
>Yeah, I know this is an UXM, but since it's a continuation of the
>NMSP, I feel its worth a discussion (Why didn't you do a thread of
>this, CleV?).
Not sure why, actually! I just went straight from #199 to #200
without any comment. Strange, in retrospect.
>I admit that I got part 2 before part 1, which gave some
>amazement to just how much a story the NMSP probably had in it.
>Anyway, things to note:
>- I felt the print took a slight descent in quality, due to the paper
>difference of the two X-books. Art Adams' work is undeserving of
>smudgy newsprint. Still, its better than the condition on UXM
>Annual#10.
>- A lot of head-cramming on the issue box.
The cover is, of course, a tribute to the very first Thor cover.
>- A dress-code that was also apparent in part 1: the NM dress code is
>black-shoulders/yellow-collars for males,
>yellow-shoulders/black-collars for girls. NM GN made this distinction,
>but most of the artists (save for Adams and Belvins) avoided it.
Loved the roll-call/frontispiece, and loved it just as much when Jim
Lee did it during the X-Tinction Agenda. Of course, when I did my
uncompleted fanfic 10 years ago now (wow!), I had pages and pages of
these even before the story started, with all the various mutant teams
in the X-Verse, and even my own version of the Twelve ... :-)
I much prefer Art Adams' art of this period than his current art,
which is just too big on big eyes. The New Mutants in the
frontispiece look like they could have been drawn by Tenniel (esp.
Magma). In a game of spot-the-influence I'd say he was a combination
of Barry Windsor Smith and Michael Golden.
>- Is Rogue really streaking? Gee, a lot of X-Men sleep in the buff!
Looks like a bodysuit to me.
"This cannot be an ordinary nightmare!" Why not?
What could be that design on Kitty's shirt? "I'm not just another
.." what?
>- Was Rachel's ability to create psi-images ever explained as a unique
>power to her, or can all telepaths do it?
Psi-images are basic telepathy, I'd say.
>- In the psi-image of the en-vined NM, is that fat Karma in far right?
That's a very detailed drawing - I never even tried to decipher back
in the day!
I love how CC manages to make his handwaves plausible! Rachel says
"Every instinct I have tells me Asgard is where it came from!" and we
imediately agree with her conclusion in time for the plot to be
propelled forward :-)
>- Did Kitty or Logan say the NM were no match for Loki? It would be
>typical NM-bashing Kitty, though.
Looks like Logan here. (and Kitty wasn't that bad! :-))
>- What's Xavier doing in England? Something to do with Magneto's
>trial?
Xavier's always off *somewhere* ...
>- This is probably our last happy image of Scott and Madelyne's
>relationship, before it went straight downhill.
Oooh, the foreshadowing in her parting comment! :-)))
>- Like Rachel's costume. Hate Peter's.
Now that I speak some German I can tell you that the spelling's wrong
again!
Both costumes are fine, but I much prefer JRJr's very stylised, very
alien, "Starchild" version of Rachel's costume.
>- The NM thoughts and hopes are supposedly connected with their Asgard
>adventure (Roberto- avoid prejudice, Sam- help Storm, etc.). Would
>that mean Rahne's relationship with Dani is supposed to be someway
>related to her thing with the wolf prince? Hm.
Perhaps something to do with how she fears what Dani's become and the
fact it may draw them apart.
It's fascinating doing a reviews like these because it really shows up
the themes and the techniques used by the creators. CC literally did
not let two issues go by without putting in one of his patented Dream
Sequences With Deep Meaning.
Perhaps because of a combination of the setting and the art this whole
sequence always reminds me of the last pages of Avengers Annual #10.
>- I like how Sam becomes Shaggy in this adventure. Would that make
>Amara Scooby Doo?
>- Wolverine and his anti-hunting view (UXM#109).
It's played as a minor irritation, but Cyclops is right to be
concerned about Wolverine's continued insubordination - it doesn't
work in a team environment.
Notice Rogue ends up on Colossus. At the time I was sure that CC was
setting them up to get together.
Notice the X-Men have *killed* the trolls. Any way you slice it, that
can't be right. Much like Jean's killing of Prism, which went so
undercommented (in the story) that I'm still convinced Louise Simonson
just didn't realise what she'd made Jean do.
>- Drawing Thor characters must be an artist's dream in creativity.
>- Is Hela just bugging Rachel? Considering the death goddess' only
>interested in Asgardian folk, Norse worshippers, or anyone worth her
>interest, I don't think the Asparagus people that John Byrne wasted
>would apply to any of those standards (unless she gets fired up in
>feeling people's death).
Is her limitation canon?
>- How are the NM able to view through Warlock's cam?
Magic, presumably :-)
Btw., Sam recognised Ororo last ish, so why don't they realise who
that is here?
>- Nice clothing changes. Rahne's the only one with her costume intact.
>Characteristic Illyana costume. Why's Doug still wearing his collar?
Maybe Doug's a sub? :-)
NB, Dani, your power's mental too :-)
Re: Storm. Another CC theme - people are *always* having their
personalities altered or minds taken over ...
>- Did Cyclops ever find out about Rachel? The MU handbook implies that
>he might, and Cyke's no dummy in something like this (unless he was
>like Xavier, who failed to notice Legion's resemblance). Perhaps he
>just pretended to be ignorant to respect her wishes (e.g. UXM#199).
CC always kept it completely ambiguous.
Nightcrawler's supposed to be the "medic", but what exactly can he
have done for the Wolf-Prince?
Kitty makes one her few comments which could imply a sexual interest
in Wolvie :-)
Why exactly does Mirage go to look for Bobby?
"He's rabbitting --!" LOL!
>- I would have liked to see a Cyclops-Illyana interaction. It seems
>most of the X-Men gave her little notice (or credit- e.g. Inferno).
>- The first Doug-Locke fusion.
>- If Rogue absorbed Cyke's power, how could she control it? Something
>from the animated series.
The others have already responded to this. I'm more interested in the
idea that Rogue can absorb someone *through* someone else! Which has
never been done or commented on again, I think ...
So ... blasting the X-Men into unconsciousness and then chaining them
up in his dungeon *isn't* not doing the X-Men harm?
How much detail does Adams have to put into these panels, anyway?
Note the little star-shaped garter buckles on the evil Rogue :-)
>- Evidently Dani's death image hadn't yet matured into the
>death-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder effect. Don't think Wolverine sees
>death as a horned skull.
>- Wasn't Rahne's Loki-enchanted wolfen form on the NMSP cover?
>- Could Marvel still allow a drawing of the Enterprise, considering
>they once owned the rights for their Marv Wolfman-Dave Cockrum series?
>Anyone like that series?
Note that, as usual, Kitty's the one yelling out orders left, right
and centre ...
>- Warlock's disguise.
>- On the left-panel pg. 34, we see Hawkman and Steppenwolf.
Is the beefy guy that Bobby punches supposed to be someone?
>- Did Dani know about the Valkyrie title beforehand? She mentions the
>Valkryior to Hela after the revelation.
Doubtful. She didn't guess anything back at Bobby's tavern.
>- I love Hela's reason for departure. Shows respect in continuity.
>- Typical brave-youngster scene.
>- Just how far does the 'soulmate' meaning go for Illyana? 'Course, it
>doesn't have to take a sexual or romantic meaning, like SEX IN THE
>CITY'S Charlotte heterosexually calling her friends 'soulmates.'
>- Roberto's decision to go back to Earth is rather contrived.
Does Sam still have the armour and the sword?
>- Group picture (like in the NMSP). Romita Jr. really changed some of
>the costumes in UXM#200.
>- Whatever happened to:
> -Cyke's teleportational lightning bolts?
I'm almost sure Lobdell or Niecieza used them again later. Perhaps to
get to the Morlock's pocket dimension?
> -Eitri the Dwarf King?
> -The Wolf Prince?
> -Mist and her Valkryior?
Weren't they all revisited one by one during the NM's second visit to
Asgard? I dunno - I'd given up on Louise Simonson by then.
Brian Doyle
the condition on UXM
> Annual#10.
I got my copy of NMSE and UXM signed by Art and Chris when they did a
signing in Edinburgh years and years back. Art was (very vocally) appalled
at the cruddy printing job.
starblood
> - Is Hela just bugging Rachel? Considering the death goddess' only
> interested in Asgardian folk, Norse worshippers, or anyone worth her
> interest, I don't think the Asparagus people that John Byrne wasted
> would apply to any of those standards (unless she gets fired up in
> feeling people's death).
Hela's domain isn't limited to Norse or Asgardians. I recall an old issue
of Thor or Journey Into Mystery -- I think it was reprinted in the old 1970s
trade The Superhero Women -- where Thor defeated Hela, and nature on Earth
went wild.
> - I love Hela's reason for departure. Shows respect in continuity.
Did you notice some of the artwork is very Simonson-like? Particularly the
assorted energy discharges. Also, some Workman-like lettering on p. 46.
starblood
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> >Could Marvel still allow a drawing of the Enterprise, considering
> >they once owned the rights for their Marv Wolfman-Dave Cockrum series?
> >Anyone like that series?
>
> They probably could still draw it, but not because they once owned the
rights
> to a Star Trek comic book. This right ended when their contract with
Paramount
> ended. It could very well be argued that an image of the Enterprise has
lapsed
> into the public domain (just not an image owned by Paramount), but
Paramount
> could still sue over any use of any spacecraft bearing a resemblance to
the
> Enterprise.
It might also fall under the rules of parody, much like the countless other
referential forms Warlock has assumed.
BlakGard
>> >they once owned the rights for their Marv Wolfman-Dave Cockrum series?
>> >Anyone like that series?
>>
>> They probably could still draw it, but not because they once owned the
>rights
>> to a Star Trek comic book. This right ended when their contract with
>Paramount
>> ended. It could very well be argued that an image of the Enterprise has
>lapsed
>> into the public domain (just not an image owned by Paramount), but
>Paramount
>> could still sue over any use of any spacecraft bearing a resemblance to
>the
>> Enterprise.
>
>It might also fall under the rules of parody, much like the countless other
>referential forms Warlock has assumed.
True enough.
Patrick McClue
"CleV" <CL...@balJUNKcab.ch> wrote in message
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> On 13 Apr 2003 17:29:48 -0700, anmc...@hotmail.com (A. Gerard) wrote:
>
>
> >- If Rogue absorbed Cyke's power, how could she control it? Something
> >from the animated series.
>
> The others have already responded to this. I'm more interested in the
> idea that Rogue can absorb someone *through* someone else! Which has
> never been done or commented on again, I think ...
>
Didn't she do something like this in one of the early Nimrod battles?
Anyway, I loved the Nightcrawler-esque Rogue with the glowing eyes. It was
a good image...much better than the Nightcrawler/Collosus combo she did in
the Nimrod battle.
Patrick
Brian Doyle
"CleV" <CL...@balJUNKcab.ch> wrote in message
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> The others have already responded to this. I'm more interested in the
> idea that Rogue can absorb someone *through* someone else! Which has
> never been done or commented on again, I think ...
I don't think it was like that, IIRC she leeched Kurt, grew the tail,
touched Scott with it and leeched him via skin contact as per usual, the
fact the skin was on her tail isn't an issue..
CleV
That was an plausible enough interpretation that I went back and
checked :-) - sadly it's not borne out either by the art or the
thought balloon ...
lavar78
<blak...@aol.comix.net> wrote:
> >- The first Doug-Locke fusion.
>
> I thought their first soulmerge was in NM Annual #2.
Wasn't NM Annual #2 published after UXM Annual #9? In NMA#2, Shan is
back with the team (although "sick" with Amara), so that should put it
later. I wish I could get to my books right now.
/lavar78
JJam2240
>back with the team (although "sick" with Amara), so that should put it
>later. I wish I could get to my books right now.
Nope, the Annual you are thinking of with Shan being sick with Amara is in New
Mutants Annual #3, in which the Impossible Man comes to visit.
New Mutants Annual #2, which features the first American appearance of Psylocke
and Meggan, was published circa NM #44-46ish.....X-Men Annual #9 was published
during the Asgardian Wars period, which was roughly NM #34-35ish.
I don't have a copy of XMA #9, so I don't know if the Doug/Locke fusion was
actually a soulmerge as was the case in NMA #2, where the two pretty much
became one, or if it was more a fusion where Warlock plays body armor to Doug,
which he did many times later on in the series, becoming the "team supreme"
(ah, a favorite Claremontism....though my favorite team supreme had to be Dani
and Illyana jaunting through time during the Hellions battle, and later against
Karma/Farouk...)
Brian Doyle
"JJam2240" <jjam...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >Wasn't NM Annual #2 published after UXM Annual #9? In NMA#2, Shan is
> >back with the team (although "sick" with Amara), so that should put it
> >later. I wish I could get to my books right now.
>
> Nope, the Annual you are thinking of with Shan being sick with Amara is in
New
> Mutants Annual #3, in which the Impossible Man comes to visit.
Yup,
> I don't have a copy of XMA #9, so I don't know if the Doug/Locke fusion
was
> actually a soulmerge as was the case in NMA #2, where the two pretty much
> became one, or if it was more a fusion where Warlock plays body armor to
Doug,
It was kind of a halfway mark. Warlock (Having used the bodyarmour approach
in NM:SE, was going as far as using Doug's lifeglow as an energy source
because his own was so low, but there wasn't a physical or mental fusion as
in the first Douglock fusion (After the first of which Warlock started to
refer to Doug alone as "Selfsoulfriend")
> which he did many times later on in the series, becoming the "team
supreme"
> (ah, a favorite Claremontism....though my favorite team supreme had to be
Dani
> and Illyana jaunting through time during the Hellions battle, and later
against
> Karma/Farouk...)
Nah, Warlock and Cypher WERE the real Team Supreme (Kitty and Doug also used
it, though I prefer to refer to them as "Hardware and Software")