Cyclops is HOW OLD??? (X-Men #51 SPOILER)
David J. Warner
This isn't much of a spoiler, but just in case...
Is it just me, or is Marvel time the most warped sort of time in the world?
Jean makes the comment that Cyke was born 40. He replies, "Jean, I'm
TWENTY-FI--", then gets cut off.
Twenty-five? That means the X-Men are about, what, seven or eight years
old? Thirty-plus years of comics have told us about only eight years of
action, barring all that time travel? Why do I find this hard to believe?
I expected Cyke to be closer to 30. Who determined he was 25???
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Proctor
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>I expected Cyke to be closer to 30. Who determined he was 25???
I haven't seen the issue yet, but this makes NO SENSE.
Several years ago (probably about a month Marvel time),
Beast was worrying about how he had just turned thirty.
Seeing as this was around the time of the 30th anniversary
of (Uncanny) X-Men #1, this seemed a bit of a stretch.
But, seeing as he's probably still 30 even though this was 3
or 4 years ago, that would still mean the other original
X-Men should be pushing 30, too.
Beast was supposed to be the oldest of the original X-Men, but
he couldn't be more than a year or two older than the rest.
Jean, I could see being a bit younger, seeing that she spent
so much time dead; but Scott, only 25? That would mean that it
would be, at most, 10 years since X-Men #1; and that would have
put Hank at about 20 at the time; he was definitally younger
than that.
I won't even mention the fact that Scott and Jean are both 12
years older than their bodies...
I just hope this won't turn into another X-Ages thread...
Proctor (jmpr...@midway.uchicago.edu)
Keeper of the Transformers flame
I was so much older then;
I'm younger than that now
James S Galinski
David J. Warner <manc...@netcom.com> wrote:
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>action, barring all that time travel? Why do I find this hard to believe?
>I expected Cyke to be closer to 30. Who determined he was 25???
I just hope he was cut off while trying to say, "Jean, I'm twenty-five years
older than your nephews," or "I'm twenty-five plus six." Sam admires him this
much and the age difference between them is like five years?! I don't think
so... Is Kitty still 14? This lame use of Marvel time to "youngify" the
characters is about the only thing about Waid's first issue that bothered me.
And, if the last three pages didn't convince you, Gambit is the traitor...
-Grandpa Nate
M Waid
<<This lame use of Marvel time to "youngify" the
characters is about the only thing about Waid's first issue that bothered
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For what it's worth, it wasn't my line. I stopped with "You were born
forty years old." However, given that people being born in different
times at different ages in different eras is de riguer in the X-universe,
I guess I understand why someone felt the need to hit you over the head
with the idea that Jean was exaggerating. <g>
The Man with the Golden Gun
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It's just you. :) Actually, you're right on the nose.
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>old? Thirty-plus years of comics have told us about only eight years of
>action, barring all that time travel? Why do I find this hard to believe?
>I expected Cyke to be closer to 30. Who determined he was 25???
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I'll attribute it to confusing time. He's supposed to be just a bit
younger than real-Hank. This would make him either twenty-nine or
thirty.
-Scaramanga, somethingteen
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The Man with the Golden Gun
Thanks for comforting us, Mark. We were a bit worried there. I guess
the addition is for people who have to be reminded that coffee is hot,
and knives are sharp . . .
-Scaramanga, Ouch! Them pins is pointy . . . (who knows where this came
from?)
FPBlaze
Now as for Cyke's _right_ age, I believe it was established long ago that
all the original X-Men except Iceman are the same age; Iceman is one
year younger. And not too long ago there was a story that took place on
Hank McCoy's 30th birthday. So Cyke is 29 or 30, and some X-editor
doesn't know squat. Like that's a surprise.
FPB
("Them pins is pointy!"? Wasn't that David Letterman's thesis paper? ;-)
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Dwight Williams
> Grandpa Nate writes:
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> characters is about the only thing about Waid's first issue that bothered
> me. >>
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> For what it's worth, it wasn't my line. I stopped with "You were born
> forty years old." However, given that people being born in different
> times at different ages in different eras is de riguer in the X-universe,
> I guess I understand why someone felt the need to hit you over the head
> with the idea that Jean was exaggerating. <g>
Uh huh.
Excuse me. I feel a need to bash my skull against something very dense.
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Dwight Williams(ad...@freenet.carleton.ca) -- Orleans, Ontario, Canada
David J. Warner
>mw...@aol.com (M Waid) wrote:
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>>For what it's worth, it wasn't my line. I stopped with "You were born
>>forty years old." However, given that people being born in different
>>times at different ages in different eras is de riguer in the X-universe,
>>I guess I understand why someone felt the need to hit you over the head
>>with the idea that Jean was exaggerating. <g>
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>the addition is for people who have to be reminded that coffee is hot,
>and knives are sharp . . .
Agreed. I still think it ought to be around 28 or so, but then again, I
don't have a say so in the Marvel Universe. (If I did, Jubilee would
have kicked Robin's ass...)
>-Scaramanga, Ouch! Them pins is pointy . . . (who knows where this came
>from?)
Either David Letterman or a Hellraiser movie. What do I win? =^)
The Man with the Golden Gun
>I'm relieved to hear that this blatant mistake wasn't MW's fault.
>Now as for Cyke's _right_ age, I believe it was established long ago that
>all the original X-Men except Iceman are the same age; Iceman is one
>year younger. And not too long ago there was a story that took place on
>Hank McCoy's 30th birthday. So Cyke is 29 or 30, and some X-editor
>doesn't know squat. Like that's a surprise.
Yep. We all knew this. :)
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>FPB
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>("Them pins is pointy!"? Wasn't that David Letterman's thesis paper? ;-)
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Close. It's one of the (#5, i think) "Top Ten reasons you know you're
not going to win a Nobel Prize: Your doctoral dissertation is titled
"Ouch! Them pins is pointy!"
-Scaramanga, pleased somebody caught that.
The Man with the Golden Gun
>>mw...@aol.com (M Waid) wrote:
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>>>For what it's worth, it wasn't my line. I stopped with "You were born
>>>forty years old." However, given that people being born in different
>>>times at different ages in different eras is de riguer in the X-universe,
>>>I guess I understand why someone felt the need to hit you over the head
>>>with the idea that Jean was exaggerating. <g>
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>>Thanks for comforting us, Mark. We were a bit worried there. I guess
>>the addition is for people who have to be reminded that coffee is hot,
>>and knives are sharp . . .
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>Agreed. I still think it ought to be around 28 or so, but then again, I
>don't have a say so in the Marvel Universe. (If I did, Jubilee would
>have kicked Robin's ass...)
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>>-Scaramanga, Ouch! Them pins is pointy . . . (who knows where this came
>>from?)
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>Either David Letterman or a Hellraiser movie. What do I win? =^)
A three-year old Oatmeal cookie. Now aren't you glad you played? ;)
-Scaramanga, searching under his bed for oatmeal cookies.
Jacob W Michaels
> Grandpa Nate writes:
> <<This lame use of Marvel time to "youngify" the
> characters is about the only thing about Waid's first issue that bothered
> me. >>
> For what it's worth, it wasn't my line. I stopped with "You were born
> forty years old." However, given that people being born in different
> times at different ages in different eras is de riguer in the X-universe,
> I guess I understand why someone felt the need to hit you over the head
> with the idea that Jean was exaggerating. <g>
You know, it's interesting. Before I got on Usenet I don't think I
ever realized how much of the dialogue and captions was done by the
editors, as opposed to the writers. I'm curious, if one of you pros
might devulge whether there's this type of editing (harmonics?) on
all books, or if it's just the xbooks. Or is more dependent on editor,
and Harras just happens to be more "hands on"
Jacob
beeblebrox
> Jean makes the comment that Cyke was born 40. He replies, "Jean, I'm
> TWENTY-FI--", then gets cut off.
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> Twenty-five? That means the X-Men are about, what, seven or eight years
> old? Thirty-plus years of comics have told us about only eight years of
> action, barring all that time travel? Why do I find this hard to believe?
> I expected Cyke to be closer to 30. Who determined he was 25???
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What I don't understand is if he is 25 that makes Jean, Bobby, Beast, and
Angel about the same age, and I guess Storm too...but what about the
newer X-men, Gambit, Rogue, and Psylocke, etc., I considered them at
least a few years younger at least, so that would make them in their
really early 20's. I don't understand them being 21 and 22 years old,
considering the oldest Gen X character is 22. So if all of this is true
why aren't the newer X-men in Gen X? What makes them so special? Why are
their powers so well developed?
Another thing that bugs me, if all above is true, is all the things that
have happened to the newer X-men. Take Gambit for example... He was
adopted by the Thieves, killed a couple people, married Belladonna,
ran around with Storm from 6 months or so, fought with Yokuo, fell in
love with 2 other people, got them killed, fought with Sabretooth more
then once, and had something to do with Sinister...oh and smoked a few
hundred packs of cigarettes (Not in this order of course :) Well I'm
sorry but in 20-23 years you can't fit all that in, 26-28 maybe but your
pushing it. I always considered the newer X-men between 27-29 and the
older ones 30-35. Oh Well I don't write the crap I just buy it :)
Beeblebrox
Allsortz
and Scott was about 16 when it was. This would make Cyclops between 26
snd 28 (not too far off 25).
ALSO
Adventures of Cyclops & Phoenix:
About 10 years spent in the future would make Scott mentally equivalent
to a 36-38 year-old. Even if Scott is only 26, he's EXPERIENCED nearly
40 years.
Just my abstract viewpoint.
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