What is the worst Marvel book ever??
Brad Douglas
comprehend that title at all. What's sad is that I stuck through the end
just to see if it got worse. Ya betta believe it did ! Dr. Druid took over
the team from Dr. Strange. Wow that series was so bad!
What series in Marvel's history do you think was the all time worst?
Alan Travis
> What series in Marvel's history do you think was the all time worst?
Steeltown Rockers
---Alan
Daniel Langsdale
the bunk. How about: Wolfpack?
Actually, both of these were minis, and therefore had the bonus of
having an end to the pain in sight. Secret Defenders was ongoing, and
therefore enjoyed the promise of a new, new pain each month. I can't
say that I'm truly masochistic enough to be able to come up with a
worst, although I'm sure SD is up there. How about either Silver Sable
and the Wild Pack or Knights of Pendragon II?
ProfFrink
Hercules Prince of Power Mini-series from 1982.
>My vote goes for "Secret Defenders." What a stinker that was. I could not
>comprehend that title at all. What's sad is that I stuck through the end
>just to see if it got worse. Ya betta believe it did ! Dr. Druid took over
>the team from Dr. Strange. Wow that series was so bad!
>
Scott Hamilton
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> Hi! First time poster. Id have to say IMHO that the worst one was the
> Hercules Prince of Power Mini-series from 1982.
I love the Hercules mini-series. Both of them.
There are plenty of bad Marvel series out there. Howabout all of those
crappy Marvel "horror" books like Ghost Riders, Spirits of Vengeance,
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Brad Douglas
>Alan Travis wrote:
How about either Silver Sable
>and the Wild Pack or Knights of Pendragon II?
I actually enjoyed the Silver Sable series. How about Terror Inc??
Ramhog
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Actually, Crystar was okay. Okay, I'll say it. I kinda liked it. Or was
that my Crystar action figures. I can never remember which. :)
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Alan Travis
>
> Hey, Alan!
>
> Here are a few suggestions:
>
> Night Cat
> The Marvel Fumetti Book
> Strikeforce Morituri
> Black Goliath
> Force Works
> Night Nurse
> Fallen Angels
> Street Poet Ray
>
> Also, I was wondering if Marvel UK counts . . .
Hey, if Street Poet Ray counts, you can throw the entire Marvel UK on
the fire.
Force Works! That was truly awful. Tom "Ten Thousand Year Old" Tenney
made everyone look like they just stepped out of a Mummy movie. I'm
glad someone took his pencils away.
Never read FALLEN ANGELS. I remember that Sunspot almost killed
Cannonball, but I can't remember why. Obviously, this was Reignfire
forshadowing. Roberto couldn't have killed Sam, though, because
Cannonball is one of them Externals.
I actually bought Night Cat. I'm such a loser.
You forgot about US1.
---Alan
Alan Travis
How about either Silver Sable and the Wild Pack or Knights of Pendragon
II?
Oh, well, if we can include the Marvel UK, I'd like to vote for it.
Every single issue that came out of Marvel UK, except for a handful of
Motormouth issues drawn by Gary Frank.
What about that Razorline crap that Clive Barker and Marvel inflicted on
an unsuspecting audience? Hypernauts, anyone?
Will I get flamed if I say I hated Terror, Inc? ---Alan
Hiro Protagonist
> Nah, I at least found one or two interesting things in there under all
> the bunk. How about: Wolfpack?
I thought Wolfpack was actually okay (okay, I grabbed the graphic novel from
the local library and didn't spend a cent on it). But then, I was a lot
younger then.
But now that I look back, it's still not a bad series.
> Actually, both of these were minis, and therefore had the bonus of
> having an end to the pain in sight. Secret Defenders was ongoing, and
> therefore enjoyed the promise of a new, new pain each month. I can't
> say that I'm truly masochistic enough to be able to come up with a
> worst, although I'm sure SD is up there. How about either Silver Sable
> and the Wild Pack or Knights of Pendragon II?
Just about ANYTHING put out by Marvel UK in 1993. WildThing was enough for
me.
But yeah, Secret Defenders was pretty rancid. I couldn't believe I held
onto it for about seven issues. Now they're taking up space in my closet
alongside all the comics I can't get rid of (old Punisher comics, a Turok
#1, comics with Rob Liefeld's name in the credit page, etc.).
Now that we are getting a good idea of the worst Marvel books ever, a better
question is what do we do with them? Garage sale? Recycle? Donate and get
a tax deductable reciept?
Peace,
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Luke?
<amtr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Brad Douglas wrote:
>
>> What series in Marvel's history do you think was the all time worst?
>
>Steeltown Rockers
Team America. "We've got the mutant power to... uh, make a guy on a
motorcycle show up."
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>
> What series in Marvel's history do you think was the all time worst?
There aren't a whole lot of titles to draw on to answer this question,
since I won't buy a title if I think it sucks. However, I remember
reading my cousin's copies of Secret Wars II when it came out,
and absolutely loathing it. Glutton for punishment that I am, I still
bought the last issue (I always did have a soft spot for extra-long
comics).
And it's still the only comic that I ever tore up and threw away.
Steve MacNeil
Jim Smith
> Now that we are getting a good idea of the worst Marvel books ever, a better
> question is what do we do with them? Garage sale? Recycle? Donate and get
> a tax deductable reciept?
Hmmm...is chromium safe to use as kindling?
Jim Smith
Markus465
was nothing to write home about.
Fallen Angels I found was pretty bad.
Beauty and the Beast, with Dazzler and Beast, was even worse.
Darkhold was awful also.
I wouldn't say Crystar was the worst. It had potential like the Micronauts,
but that was lightning in a bottle.
Mark S.
Jay K. Ro
NFL Superpro
ALF
Lastly, the Clone Saga (all parts of it)
Jay K. Ro
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Alan Travis <amtr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Brad Douglas wrote:
>
>> What series in Marvel's history do you think was the all time worst?
>
Marvel Universe only? U.S. 1
Marvel All-time? Spitfire and the Troubleshooters
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>My vote goes for "Secret Defenders." What a stinker that was. I could not
>comprehend that title at all. What's sad is that I stuck through the end
>just to see if it got worse. Ya betta believe it did ! Dr. Druid took over
>the team from Dr. Strange. Wow that series was so bad!
Oh man, I forgot about that one. You're right; it was a total stinker,
absolute dreck, although I'm not sure that it was *the* worst that
Marvel's ever produced. It would definitely be on my top five list,
though.
Too bad I'm at work right now, or I could leaf through my collection and
find what I thought to be the worst Marvel of all. Maybe later; it might
be an amusing project. One possibility is that book that featured the
teenaged Franklin Richards and a bunch of other teen superheros, but I
don't remember the name. I think it was Power Pack or something like that.
Another candidate would be FF UNLIMITED (or any of the other "unlimited"
books for that matter). Whew! What a stinker!
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>Team America. "We've got the mutant power to... uh, make a guy on a
>motorcycle show up."
ROTFL
My vote: The Incredible Hulk vs Quasimodo
Not a series, but a one-shot that'll make you puke.
Thomas Dehn
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>Another candidate would be FF UNLIMITED
>(or any of the other "unlimited"
>books for that matter). Whew! What a stinker!
How about the entire 2099 line after Joey Cavaliery
had been fired and most of the artists showed
solidarity with Joey?
Thomas
Ted Douglas
wrote:
>My vote goes for "Secret Defenders." What a stinker that was. I could not
>comprehend that title at all. What's sad is that I stuck through the end
>just to see if it got worse. Ya betta believe it did ! Dr. Druid took over
>the team from Dr. Strange. Wow that series was so bad!
>
>What series in Marvel's history do you think was the all time worst?
>
>
In recent times: Thor/Silver Surfer '98, late Marvel 2099AD-quality
artwork, and an uninspired story conceived by J.M DeMatteis
(on one of his off-days, clearly!) and told by Tom DeFalco at
his most uninspired.
Nana Yaw Ofori
ORA...@aol.com (ORAC) wrote:
> Too bad I'm at work right now, or I could leaf through my collection and
> find what I thought to be the worst Marvel of all. Maybe later; it might
> be an amusing project. One possibility is that book that featured the
> teenaged Franklin Richards and a bunch of other teen superheros, but I
> don't remember the name. I think it was Power Pack or something like that.
Fantastic Force, I believe. Power Pack was about a four super-powered
kids with tne last name "Power."
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> Hey, Alan!
>
> Here are a few suggestions:
>
> Night Cat
> The Marvel Fumetti Book
> Strikeforce Morituri
> Black Goliath
> Force Works
> Night Nurse
> Fallen Angels
> Street Poet Ray
Alf, Mad Dog, Meteor Man, Skrull Kill Krew, Silver Sable & The Wild Pack,
Hellstorm, Secret Defenders, Wonder Man, Marvel Comics Presents.
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>> Hey, Alan!
>>
>> Here are a few suggestions:
>>
>> Night Cat
>> The Marvel Fumetti Book
>> Strikeforce Morituri
>> Black Goliath
>> Force Works
>> Night Nurse
>> Fallen Angels
>> Street Poet Ray
>
>Alf, Mad Dog, Meteor Man, Skrull Kill Krew, Silver Sable & The Wild Pack,
>Hellstorm, Secret Defenders, Wonder Man, Marvel Comics Presents.
Hey, let's toss the Abominations in there. Oh, and any random Heroes Reborn
title.
Tim
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Secret Defenders wasn't so bad, and I didn't see Thor/SS '98, but my vote for
worst Marvel title ever is Liefeld's version of Craptain America. Want to
see Steve Rogers in a bad remake of Total Recall with pitiful art thrown in
for good measure? If so, get thee to the quarter bins, there's lots of 'em
left!
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>
> >My vote goes for "Secret Defenders." What a stinker that was. I could not
> >comprehend that title at all. What's sad is that I stuck through the end
> >just to see if it got worse. Ya betta believe it did ! Dr. Druid took over
> >the team from Dr. Strange. Wow that series was so bad!
>
> absolute dreck, although I'm not sure that it was *the* worst that
> Marvel's ever produced. It would definitely be on my top five list,
> though.
Secret Defenders takes the cake. How about that great scene where Dr
Strange teleports the Punisher into his house and says, "I'm Dr Strange."
Frank replies, "I don't believe in Dr Strange." Huh?! The guy just
tewleported you into his house!
K.
Dewm
Alan Travis wrote in message <35F726...@earthlink.net>...
>Brad Douglas wrote:
>
>> What series in Marvel's history do you think was the all time worst?
>
>Steeltown Rockers
>
>
>---Alan
David Walker
right, it blows.
NFL SuperPro was just plain stupid.
Force Works was the ugliest thing I've ever looked at. I just could
NOT get through it.
Alf will someday be recognized for the fine work that it is. Ha!
ma...@ventana.com
dresses up in his game uniform and joines Spidey in batteling bad guys
No. I'm *not* kidding.
Tim Roll-Pickering
>
> > Too bad I'm at work right now, or I could leaf through my collection and
> > find what I thought to be the worst Marvel of all. Maybe later; it might
> > be an amusing project. One possibility is that book that featured the
> > teenaged Franklin Richards and a bunch of other teen superheros, but I
> > don't remember the name. I think it was Power Pack or something like that.
>
> Fantastic Force, I believe. Power Pack was about a four super-powered
> kids with tne last name "Power."
>
Tim Norton
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The Human Fly from the early 80's also comes to mind, ranks up there with
SuperPro.
Before the switch to Heroes Reborn/Return, the Avengers were sucking rocks.
The first few issues of McFarlan's Spider Man were tedious. And, anything
by Leifield bites the big one, in my book. I have stacks of stuff that just
wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.
Tim
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>
> >Alan Travis wrote:
> How about either Silver Sable
> >and the Wild Pack or Knights of Pendragon II?
>
Terror Inc. was actually pretty good, about a quest for redemption for a
not so nice character. It was a neat crime/horror comic well written by
Dan Chichester with a sense of humor. If you like Deadpool, this is a
darker, less funny version of that.
--Dan
Dreamer
*Sigh* I tried. I really tried not to respond to this thread, but I have
some of my own that I remember (but man, this one's bringing back
memories)
I agree with a few of those mentioned before. (Skull Kill Krew,
NFLSuperpro) But I had to add a few of my own that amost made me give up
comic reading altogether.
Dakota North
X-Force post-Nicieza.
Any Ultraverse title after Black September.
Night Man/ Gambit
Abd my personal nuke.
Mort the Dead Teenager.
Ick.
Just ick...
Dreamer
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Brad Douglas
Fantastic Force was terrible. I hated that book! Plus the Exiles book from
Malibu,which had the Juggernaut in it. What a stinker! Also the
Badrock/Spider-Man team up. This was a cross-company thang with Liefeld. Oh
man that was bad. And I love Spidey!
Brad Douglas
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Fantastic Force
Fantastic Four Unlimited(for ignoring continuity blatantly)
War Machine once he got the alien warwear
Iron Manual(good for explaining, but very dull)
Any STAR title except Masters of the Universe
Sleepwalker
Spiningboy
Sadly, I do.
I've often wondered if I'm the only person in the world who actually purchased
those comics.
They sucked on a "once in a lifetime" level.
Randy Tischler
>
> What series in Marvel's history do you think was the all time worst?
I must say that I've enjoyed reading this entire thread, because a ton of the
stuff that I pick up in runs in the $.25 bins were mentioned, and I end up
enjoying them somewhat (but I'd probably be pissed if I payed anything more for
them, much less cover price).
I must say, though, I think NFL SuperPro is dumb as HELL. I was GIVEN a copy
of issue #1, and I couldn't stand it! How many issues did that run???
Hopefully no more than that.
The other title that I've picked up that I was POed I'd even payed a quarter a
pop for, which I haven't seen mentioned here, were the Avengers Unplugged and
Fantastic Four Unplugged series. Jesus! "Hey, there's someone who is known as
a notorious villain and, wow, a whole wedding consisting of villains! Let's
trash 'em! Whoops! Maybe we shouldn't have done that after all...perhaps we
should leave now..." UGH.
I don't like most Marvel UK stuff I put my hands on (though I did enjoy
Motormouth). I had a hard time reading much of the Fantastic Force stuff, and
the Secret Defenders too. Early Dazzler was painful. The "new" Captain Marvel
(Genis) series stuff I read was corny as hell. I've hated pretty much every
X-Men Unlimited for the past N years (but probably moreso because they had
little to do with anything else going on in the X-Universe). Did someone say
Solarman? 8-)
Randy
FabNic
>>
>> Night Cat
>> The Marvel Fumetti Book
>> Strikeforce Morituri
>> Black Goliath
>> Force Works
>> Night Nurse
>> Fallen Angels
>> Street Poet Ray
>
>Alf, Mad Dog, Meteor Man, Skrull Kill Krew, Silver Sable & The Wild Pack,
>Hellstorm, Secret Defenders, Wonder Man, Marvel Comics Presents.
>
>Paulo Costa
HEY -- I edited some of those stinkers -- I mean comic books -- and although I
would personally vote for STREET POET RAY (and having him show up IN PERSON at
a Marvel Distributer's Meeting some years ago was the "highlight" of the
meeting!), I have to defend some of the titles I edited --
Hellstorm -- after a rocky start, i think Len Kaminski was doing some good
stuff along with Peter Gross -- and then Warren Ellis and Leonardo Manco did
some really cool stuff too
Mad Dog -- yeah, the "gritty superhero" side of it wasn't too good, but the
parody flip stuff by Ty Templeton was simply some of the FUNNIEST comic
material published EVER
Wonder Man -- although not the greatest title ever, it certainly wasn't one of
the worst -- I thought it had some good issues -- especially the Galactic Storm
issues
Now that i'm done defending my mediocre editorial skills, let's talk some more
about Street Poet Ray...
:-)
-- fabian
(just happy I haven't seen any titles I WROTE on anyone's list... YET...)
FabNic
>of issue #1, and I couldn't stand it!
Okay, okay, I'm caught.
But on a technicality, although i wrote the special and the first four issues,
I didn't CREATE the thing -- i just came in on a rush assignment to help them
out when they were having trouble getting storylines approved by NFL.
And i'll admit -- i did it because i expected to get some free tix to football
games (especially the Superbowl). And all i got out of it were 2 tix to a
Jets/Colts game (back when the Jets REALLY sucked). They lost to the Colts at
HOME by like 30 points. Just horrible.
Hmmm... let's get back to Street Poet Ray why don't we...
:-)
--fabian
ORAC
nof...@pop3.utoledo.edu (Nana Yaw Ofori) wrote:
>In article <ORACII-1009...@maxreader.bsd.uchicago.edu>,
>ORA...@aol.com (ORAC) wrote:
>
>> Too bad I'm at work right now, or I could leaf through my collection and
>> find what I thought to be the worst Marvel of all. Maybe later; it might
>> be an amusing project. One possibility is that book that featured the
>> teenaged Franklin Richards and a bunch of other teen superheros, but I
>> don't remember the name. I think it was Power Pack or something like that.
>
> Fantastic Force, I believe. Power Pack was about a four super-powered
>kids with tne last name "Power."
I think you're right. It's all coming back to me now. What an awful book.
I checked it out for about three or four issues and gave it up...
pm...@vms.cis.pitt.edu
>
> Fantastic Force was terrible. I hated that book! Plus the Exiles book from
> Malibu,which had the Juggernaut in it. What a stinker! Also the
> Badrock/Spider-Man team up. This was a cross-company thang with Liefeld. Oh
> man that was bad. And I love Spidey!
>
Of course it's hard to give a definitive opinion since I never even picked up a
lot of titles that looked like crap. Of the one's I didn't avoid, I would offer
the following:
1) Avengers vol II 1-6(7?-- Until the time Liefield was fired and Simonson took
over as writer). The art was total crap and there were no stories. It did lead
up to a classic moment, however, when Simonson had the real Thor show up and
beat the crap out of the Liefield Thor.
2) Force Works 1-4 .Eventually the book became readable, but issue 1 was the
biggest load of crap I had seen up to that time. An ill concieved idea poorly
executed.
3) X-factor from about 125-150. Lame art for the most part. Incomprehensible
stories. How they could take a solid book with interesting (albeit second
string) characters and drive it so totally into the ground was criminal. Let's
get rid of the characters that people like and make the book fun to read and
let's bring Sabretooth and Mystique and Bishop's hologram sister. And let's make
Havok bad for real, but not really. I'm staying away from Mutant X which sounds
even worse.
--Patrick in Pgh
Freshie
<dre...@shell.monmouth.com> wrote:
>X-Force post-Nicieza.
I hope you mean X-Force post-FabNic pre-John Frances Moore.
paranoia: the choice of a tech generation
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Tim Norton
Freshie wrote in message <35f959da....@client.ne.news.psi.net>...
>On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:53:04 -0400, Dreamer
><dre...@shell.monmouth.com> wrote:
>
>>X-Force post-Nicieza.
>
>I hope you mean X-Force post-FabNic pre-John Frances Moore.
I don't think I ever picked up a book from the X-Force, X-Factor, X-Man or
Cable series that I liked. Of course these were random pickings, but I
never enjoyed the issues I read.
Tim
Ray Smo
>>> Night Cat
>>> The Marvel Fumetti Book
>>> Strikeforce Morituri
>>> Black Goliath
>>> Force Works
>>> Night Nurse
>>> Fallen Angels
>>> Street Poet Ray
>>
>>Alf, Mad Dog, Meteor Man, Skrull Kill Krew, Silver Sable & The Wild Pack,
>>Hellstorm, Secret Defenders, Wonder Man, Marvel Comics Presents.
>>
At the risk of being flamebait, i actually liked a few of those. Marvel
Fumetti was a fun little lark, along the lines of Fandom Confidential (?).
Skrull Kill Krew felt like a good (relatively speaking) summer flick. Wonder
Man was great, written by a great writer, Gerard Jones. And MCP really had
it's moments, especially those introducing two of my all time fave books:
Damage Control and Nth Man.
However I've never ever been tempted to pick up my Spellbound LS after it's
initial reading. And any Howard the Duck after Gerber reeks to high heaven.
Timeo Hominem Unius Libri
Raymond Smotherman
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Freshie
Well the point being that you may not like JFM's run on X-Force, which
I think is very good stuff, but it should be far from being mentioned
in the worst books ever.
However I can see mentioning Loeb's run in there.
>Tim
Paul O'Brien
pm...@vms.cis.pitt.edu writes
>
>1) Avengers vol II 1-6(7?-- Until the time Liefield was fired and Simonson took
>over as writer). The art was total crap and there were no stories. It did lead
>up to a classic moment, however, when Simonson had the real Thor show up and
>beat the crap out of the Liefield Thor.
There's a lot more to admire about Simonson's Avengers Vol 2 than
that, actually. He took a load of virtually incomprehensible gibberish,
inherited it in midflow, and actually managed to run with all the
ludicrous plots he'd been handed. And make them work. That's
really impressive in my book.
Paul O'Brien
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Long live the UK music scene.
Paul O'Brien
<fab...@aol.com> writes
>
>HEY -- I edited some of those stinkers -- I mean comic books -- and although I
>would personally vote for STREET POET RAY (and having him show up IN PERSON at
>a Marvel Distributer's Meeting some years ago was the "highlight" of the
>meeting!)
How is the great artiste these days? Working for Hallmark, I assume?
DwayneM595
> I think NFL SuperPro is dumb as HELL. I was GIVEN a copy
>>of issue #1, and I couldn't stand it!
>
>Okay, okay, I'm caught.
>But on a technicality, although i wrote the special and the first four issues,
>I didn't CREATE the thing -- i just came in on a rush assignment to help
>them
>out when they were having trouble getting storylines approved by NFL.
Sorry Fabe. Not even close. Street Poet Ray. Nightcat. Air Raiders. The unholy
trinity.
Dwayne McDuffie
Dreamer
On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, Freshie wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:53:04 -0400, Dreamer
> <dre...@shell.monmouth.com> wrote:
>
> >X-Force post-Nicieza.
>
> I hope you mean X-Force post-FabNic pre-John Frances Moore.
Ack! You're right, I did mean that. I just /recently/ picked up an
X-Force issue again, once I learned Pollina finally left for good.
But, the Loeb/Pollina issues..."Ok, let's take everything Fabe did over
the past 3 years, and ignore it..."
I'm stopping now. Even now, thinking about it makes me want to Rant...
Dreamer
"All her life, she had believed people who daydreamed were weak and
mindless fools. Now she knew she was wrong. There was strength to be
found in dreams. Lots of it. And when there was nothing else in
life-only violence and the fear of it-the strength drawn from make believe
worlds was enough to carry on."
-J.V. Jones
"Master and Fool"
>
David Crowe
: Does anyone remember "Brute Force?"
: Sadly, I do.
: I've often wondered if I'm the only person in the world who actually purchased
: those comics.
No. I went to college with someone who _adored_ Brute Force. He couldn't
say enough about it. Remember: Every comic is _someone's_ favorite. Let
that thought keep you up nights...
While there are worse books for writing and art, Force Works #1 gets a lot
of points for the incredibly stupid cover gimmick it had. You could only
open the thing once!
--
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Your personality is ruled by the lumps on your head.
Maybe some new bumps would improve your personality, eh?
-"Corrective Phrenologists" INWO SubGenius card
Terry Swafford
(for the worst artwork I have *ever* seen!).
Just a question though...what were NightCat, Street Poet Ray, & Brute
Force all about anyway? I've never seen these *gems* and I'm just
curious who wrote and drew them,etc... (Don't worry,I have no plans to
buy them--- I'm just curious about these collectable toilet paper)
Marvel zombie
Terry
(Who wishes he had looked through that Thor/SS annual before buying
*ugh*)
Drblasfemy
>Force all about anyway? I've never seen these *gems* and I'm just
>curious who wrote and drew them,etc... (Don't worry,I have no plans to
>buy them--- I'm just curious about these collectable toilet paper)
Nightcat was some one-shot, that was basically a hype book for a supposed real
life singer. I've never seen the book in the flesh, but I recall Jim Lee doing
the cover and character design. Does anyone remember the name of the singer.
Dr. Blasphemy @#*!
David Walker
> Force Works #1 gets a lot of points for the incredibly stupid cover
gimmick it had. You could only open the thing once!
You got it to work? I thought mine was tearing and gave up. Maybe I
should dig it out and really yank on it! (I mean the cover, don't go
that way)
iron...@my-dejanews.com
David Crowe <jet...@primenet.com> wrote:
> Spiningboy <spini...@aol.com> wrote:
> : Does anyone remember "Brute Force?"
>
> : Sadly, I do.
>
> : I've often wondered if I'm the only person in the world who actually purchased
> : those comics.
>
> No. I went to college with someone who _adored_ Brute Force. He couldn't
> say enough about it. Remember: Every comic is _someone's_ favorite. Let
> that thought keep you up nights...
>
> of points for the incredibly stupid cover gimmick it had. You could only
> open the thing once!
that is ABSOLUTE bullshit... you could open it more than once.. closing the
cover though.. that was another question all together hehehehehe
--
Peter Likidis
centuryATiname.com
"It's alright.... we're on a mission from God" - Jake Blues
The add
iron...@my-dejanews.com
>
> Just a question though...what were NightCat, Street Poet Ray, & Brute
> Force all about anyway? I've never seen these *gems* and I'm just
> curious who wrote and drew them,etc... (Don't worry,I have no plans to
> buy them--- I'm just curious about these collectable toilet paper)
Brute for was about animals who were given intelligence and suits of armour
and battled for the environmental good of mankind against an vicious
corporation and evil animals who wear similar armour. I believe Brute Force's
air plane was an Armadillo or some such. Very very bad.. I still have the 4
issues somewhere. -- Peter Likidis centuryATiname.com "It's alright.... we're
Steven Blunt
O'Brien <pa...@esoterica.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <6tbl8j$2vj$1...@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>,
>pm...@vms.cis.pitt.edu writes
>>
>>1) Avengers vol II 1-6(7?-- Until the time Liefield was fired and Simonson took
>>over as writer). The art was total crap and there were no stories. It did lead
>>up to a classic moment, however, when Simonson had the real Thor show up and
>>beat the crap out of the Liefield Thor.
>
>There's a lot more to admire about Simonson's Avengers Vol 2 than
>that, actually. He took a load of virtually incomprehensible gibberish,
>inherited it in midflow, and actually managed to run with all the
>ludicrous plots he'd been handed. And make them work. That's
>really impressive in my book.
Made it work? To this day I still don't understand what most of this book
was about. Where did that second Thor come from? And what was Cable doing
in Captain America #6 while we're at it?
cya
--
Steven Blunt
spb...@ozemail.com.au
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Steve
>While there are worse books for writing and art, Force Works #1 gets a lot
>of points for the incredibly stupid cover gimmick it had. You could only
>open the thing once!
What was the gimmick?
Steve
Steve
Swafford) wrote:
>Just a question though...what were NightCat, Street Poet Ray, & Brute
>Force all about anyway? I've never seen these *gems* and I'm just
>curious who wrote and drew them,etc... (Don't worry,I have no plans to
>buy them--- I'm just curious about these collectable toilet paper)
Street Poet Ray was a rapper or some such who had the ability to make
really dumb rhymes. That was it. Ummmm...something like:
Drugs are bad
Drugs just ain't fun
If you do drugs
You'll be dead, son.
This doesn't do it justice, but it should give you an idea.
Peter David did a brilliant column in CBG about it that I've been
trying to find. David thought that Ray's rhymes sounded like the sort
of thing the dumb, green Hulk would have come up with.
(The column was called something like Street Poet Hulk. Does anyone
know if it's been collected in the But I Digress book?).
Steve
iron...@my-dejanews.com
spb...@ozemail.com.au (Steven Blunt) wrote:
> And what was Cable doing
> in Captain America #6 while we're at it?
<sarcasm mode on>
He appearred Suddenly dammit... don't you read the bloody narration box.. it
explains everything
<sarcasm mode off>
so for Simonson. I agree. He got a lot of stupid and annoying events and made
it into a 12 page epic. Although there are a few gaps. I am Amazed at
Simonson's work considering the shit he was handled.
--
Peter Likidis
centuryATiname.com
"It's alright.... we're on a mission from God" - Jake Blues
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Paul O'Brien
Swafford <DARK...@webtv.net> writes
>Just a question though...what were NightCat, Street Poet Ray, & Brute
>Force all about anyway?
NightCat was a tie-in to some singer who was going to tour the
USA doing superhero-type fight scenes in her live shows. Sounds like a
bad idea? Everyone else thought so too, which is why she sank without
trace and her book followed.
Street Poet Ray, if I remember rightly, was an attempt at a unique
and challenging mixture of cartoons and haiku. Far and away the
weirdest thing Marvel have published in years, it nonetheless has a
reputation for being unmitigated tripe. I flicked through one issue
in a store and took five seconds to realise that I never, ever wanted
to see another issue of it.
Brute Force was a miniseries about some cyborg animals with enhanced
intelligence who fought ecological crime. I think it was a tie-in
with a failed toy line. Basically, think the Knights of Wundagore -
but worse.
RussDalton
>
>: Sadly, I do.
>
>: I've often wondered if I'm the only person in the world who actually
>purchased
>: those comics.
>
>
My young nephew picked some up at a flea market and loved them. he became very
disolusioned about the comic industry when I told him that they don't put out
Brute Force anymore.
Hiro Protagonist
power pachyderms.I thought that one-shot was intentionally bad (parody of X-Men, TMNT, Daredevil, etc.). But hey, it's $1.75 CDN that I'm never going to see again.
Peace,
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Isaac
>
>Made it work? To this day I still don't understand what most of this book
>in Captain America #6 while we're at it?
>
I don't think the second Thor needed much explanation, given the completely
out of character stuff Thor was doing (caressing his hammer, giving the Hulk
scant opposition) it was easy for me to accept that the first Thor was no
more real than was Nick Fury while the second one was the real Thor. The real
question was where had the real Thor been.
I'm not going to even try to explain Captain America 6. I read all of
the first 6 issues of Heroes Reborn CA for reasons I can't explain to
this day. It was actually somewhat fun anticipating just how bad the next
issue was going to be. Although all of Liefeld's Cap and Avengers issues
were bad, Captain America 6 is all you need to read to know exactly
why he was fired form Heroes Reborn. A famous Liefeld defender said
that CA #6 was refreshingly free of any "unnecessary story".
At the time I had to keep all my books out of reach of my 2 year old daughter
so she wouldn't destroy them. I vividly remember noticing I'd left CA 5
and 6 left out the coffee table as I left for work one morning and not being
able to muster up the will power to stop and put them away.
Isaac
DwayneM595
I don't care what anybody says, the dolphin with removable cyborg arms and legs
was cool.
I'm only slightly kidding.
Dwayne McDuffie
DwayneM595
real
life singer. I've never seen the book in the flesh, but I recall Jim Lee doing
the cover and character design.>>
Joe Jusko did a beautiful cover, better than we deserved, really. Denys Cowan
did breakdowns *real* fast and Mike Manley did an incredible job pulling it all
together. I don't remember who was sentenced to write it. Was it awful? oh,
yeah.
Dwayne McDuffie
Acxxi
that for worst series?
As far as really horrible DC series go:
Fallen Angels was pretty awful
Secret Wars II (and all the tie-ins - with the exception of the mass-death of
the New Mutants, which was pretty good and probably the only realistic vision
of what would happen if you tried to beat on a dude of unlimited power without
a moral system) just plain sucked. And the Fantastic Four "Secret Wars III"
storyline actually enhanced the awfulness.
And what I've read of M2 so far leads me to believe that they're early
contenders for the 1998 Liefield Achievment Award for Pure Sh**.
Anyhow, my two cents
What a great thread!
R. Kevin
Mikel Midnight
<pa...@esoterica.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> NightCat was a tie-in to some singer who was going to tour the
> USA doing superhero-type fight scenes in her live shows. Sounds like a
> bad idea? Everyone else thought so too, which is why she sank without
> trace and her book followed.
I bet this was before the success of _Xena, Warrior Princess_ and the Spice
Girls. I bet she'd take off, now.
On the other hand, Marvel tried this once before with Dazzler and she never
took off as a singer (how far did the casting get? were any demo tapes
ever made? anyone know?), so maybe some lessons are best learned early.
--
_______________________________________________________________________________
"She always had a terrific sense of humor" Mikel Midnight
(Valerie Solonas, as described by her mother)
blak...@best.com
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Luke?
wrote:
>My vote goes for "Secret Defenders." What a stinker that was. I could not
>comprehend that title at all. What's sad is that I stuck through the end
>just to see if it got worse. Ya betta believe it did ! Dr. Druid took over
>the team from Dr. Strange. Wow that series was so bad!
>
>What series in Marvel's history do you think was the all time worst?
>
]My brother just offered "Ravage 2099."
--
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Lousy web page: http://www.csun.edu/~lg42537/index.html
David Walker
> And what I've read of M2 so far leads me to believe that they're
early contenders for the 1998 Liefield Achievment Award for Pure
Sh**.
I've only read J2. It's definitely pure, imo.
Alan Travis
> There's a lot more to admire about Simonson's Avengers Vol 2 than
> that, actually. He took a load of virtually incomprehensible gibberish,
> inherited it in midflow, and actually managed to run with all the
> ludicrous plots he'd been handed. And make them work. That's
> really impressive in my book.
I'd say that Walt did the best possible job with what he inherited.
Make them work? I don't know. I think he only managed to make them
adequate until Heroes Return. ---Alan
Alan Travis
>
> Hi! First time poster. Id have to say IMHO that the worst one was the
> Hercules Prince of Power Mini-series from 1982.
HEY! I really, really, really love that old series. I read it on a
road trip back in '82 and loved it! I've bought every Bob Layton
Hercules story afterwards and I always will! Bring 'em on! ---Alan
Alan Travis
>
> Spiningboy <spini...@aol.com> escreveu no artigo
> <199809100237...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
> > Hey, Alan!
> >
> > Here are a few suggestions:
> >
> > Night Cat
> > The Marvel Fumetti Book
> > Strikeforce Morituri
> > Black Goliath
> > Force Works
> > Night Nurse
> > Fallen Angels
> > Street Poet Ray
>
> Alf, Mad Dog, Meteor Man, Skrull Kill Krew, Silver Sable & The Wild Pack,
> Hellstorm, Secret Defenders, Wonder Man, Marvel Comics Presents.
I didn't have anything against Silver Sable, Wonder Man or Marvel Comics
Presents. There were good stories that came out MCP. Wonder Man, while
written by my least favorite writer, Gerard Jones, was pencilled by Jeff
Johnson (an old friend). Silver Sable was probably bad, but I didn't
read it.
---Alan
Crisis of Infinite Coyles
Jimmy Palmiotti did the inks, not Mike Manley. The book was plotted by
Jim Salicrup and Barry Dutter, and scripted by...Nocenti help me... Stan
"the Man" Lee himself. It was a piece of junk,a nd the Jusko painting
made the Tavarez woman better looking than she actually was. NightCat
and Stan made a joint appearance on a talk show- Rick Dees' Into the
Night, remember that colossal failure?
--Dan
Paul O'Brien
>>
>>Made it work? To this day I still don't understand what most of this book
>>was about. Where did that second Thor come from? And what was Cable doing
>>in Captain America #6 while we're at it?
In fairness to Loeb and Liefeld, Cable does actually say in CA #6 how
he got there. He was trying to find a missing supporting character
from his book, was wandering around said character's hi-tech
headquarters, and hit the wrong button. So yes, at least there's an
explanation of how he got there, even if it's a very lame one.
As far as the second Thor is concerned, the Heroes Reborn world
contained counterparts of numerous characters who had never travelled
there through Onslaught. The Thor who appeared in Liefeld's issues of
Avengers was one of them (or rather, was revealed to be one of them
when the real Thor finally showed up).
Paul O'Brien
<ac...@aol.com> writes
>How about the current post-PAD run of the Hulk? Is it too early to nominate
>that for worst series?
It's nowhere near bad enough, believe me. Try something like Generation
X for a book which is presently, well, poor.
Chuckg
Tim Roll-Pickering wrote in message <35F847...@mcmail.com>...
>Nana Yaw Ofori wrote:
>>
>> > Too bad I'm at work right now, or I could leaf through my
collection and
>> > find what I thought to be the worst Marvel of all. Maybe later; it
might
>> > be an amusing project. One possibility is that book that featured
the
>> > teenaged Franklin Richards and a bunch of other teen superheros,
but I
>> > don't remember the name. I think it was Power Pack or something
like that.
>>
>> Fantastic Force, I believe. Power Pack was about a four
super-powered
>> kids with tne last name "Power."
>>
>Didn't Franklin serve in the Power Pack as 'Tattletale'?
For a while, he was their fifth member. Of course, that was well before
the various retcons.
--
Chuckg
Isaac
wrote:
>>On Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:04:04 GMT, Steven Blunt <spb...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>was about. Where did that second Thor come from? And what was Cable doing
>>>in Captain America #6 while we're at it?
>
>In fairness to Loeb and Liefeld, Cable does actually say in CA #6 how
>he got there. He was trying to find a missing supporting character
>from his book, was wandering around said character's hi-tech
>headquarters, and hit the wrong button. So yes, at least there's an
>explanation of how he got there, even if it's a very lame one.
>
And in fairness to Loeb and Liefeld's detractors, CA #6 contributed
very little to advancing the Heroes Return plot line other than
giving Cable a chance to assert that we were seeing the real
Captain America. The weak excuse for Cable being present, and
the convenience of his disappearance at the end of the book suggest
that the answer to what Cable was doing in CA #6 was "filling up
pages" with Liefeld's favorite character.
Isaac
Rob Merritt
Just about any Marvel Movie Adaption. Especially James Bond: For Your
Eyes Only.
Rob Merritt
Covering fantasy computer gaming:
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DwayneM595
>Jim Salicrup and Barry Dutter, and scripted by...Nocenti help me... Stan
>"the Man" Lee himself. It was a piece of junk,a nd the Jusko painting
>made the Tavarez woman better looking than she actually was.
You sir, are absolutely right. Mike and Jimmy have both inked Denys for me, and
I confused them in my tiny little mind. I do believe this was Jimmy's first
mainstream credit, or at least first time at Marvel. And I was at the offices
the day NightCat and a gentleman who I assume was her grandfather visited.
Weird book.
Dwayne McDuffie
Spiningboy
Special version) had a great Steranko cover (woo-hoo!), a nice scripting job by
Archie Goodwin, and artwork by the incomparable Al Williamson (with help from
Carlos Garzon, Dan Green and Ralph Reese). Colors by Merry Marie Severin.
Mmm, mmm, good!
Thomas Dehn
Paul O'Brien wrote
>In article <199809131108...@ladder03.news.aol.com>, Acxxi
><ac...@aol.com> writes
>>How about the current post-PAD run of the Hulk? Is it too early to
nominate
>>that for worst series?
>
>It's nowhere near bad enough, believe me. Try something like Generation
>X for a book which is presently, well, poor.
I agree. The Larry Hama run on Gen X together
with Iron Boy is the worst run on a Marvel
comic I have read since I restarted reading US comics in 1991.
Thomas
Lord Zabbadoo
> >
> > What series in Marvel's history do you think was the all time worst?
The answer would have to be...
US1: Space Trucker! I defy you to find something worse!
Peter Meilinger
Don't make me come over there! I like US 1, dammit, and I'll bet
I'm not the only one.
As for worse, I nominate the "savage" half of the Mad Dog mini-series.
The funny half by Ty Templeton was amazing.
Pete
Reynaldo Torres, II
DAMAGE CONTROL
&
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Scott Bierworth
that the list would include Heroes for Hire and Alpha Flight....at least
according to the bean-counters at Marvel. I guess quality doesn't equal
quanitity when it comes to sales.
bill smith
Carter, Warlord of Mars and Godzilla were pretty bad.
JLReject
years ago.
Peter Meilinger <mell...@bu.edu> wrote in article
<6tmu4r$h0b$1...@news1.bu.edu>...
1st issue: ALIEN CATS! BWAH HA HA!
Then there was that boring, weird Mad Dog who killed some guy. That did
suck.
I'll second the Savage half of the Mad Dog mini.
--
JLReject
I. Hate. Signatures.
Strax
Hamilton) wrote:
>In article <6t7bh5$rfj$1...@post.servtech.com>, "ProfFrink"
><rams...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi! First time poster. Id have to say IMHO that the worst one was the
>> Hercules Prince of Power Mini-series from 1982.
>
>I love the Hercules mini-series. Both of them.
>
>There are plenty of bad Marvel series out there. Howabout all of those
>crappy Marvel "horror" books like Ghost Riders, Spirits of Vengeance,
>Nightstalkers...
>
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I'd have to say Transformers vs. GIJoe or Warlock and the Infinity
Watch is definitely at the top of the heap....And being the biggest
New Universe fan in the world, I still have to say Kickers Inc
sucked....All the other titles had redeeming value, but not
Kickers...ugh....
Strax
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I will choose Free Will.
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Strax
>Hey, Alan!
>
>Here are a few suggestions:
>
>Night Cat
>The Marvel Fumetti Book
>Strikeforce Morituri
I disagree....Strikeforce Morituri is one of my alltime faves!! I love
it..I hear they are thinking about bringing iyt back as a graphic
novel or mini....I hope so....it was fun..and original....
Peter Meilinger
: Didn't have the patience to read through the whole thread, but John
: Carter, Warlord of Mars and Godzilla were pretty bad.
I happened to like the Godzilla comic, personally. You can't get
good giant monster stories anymore.
Pete
DwayneM595
>I got one....
>
>DAMAGE CONTROL
Ouch. I had a feeling that was coming...
Dwayne McDuffie
Teh-Min Yang
DAMAGE CONTROL IS NO WAY EVEN CLOSE TO BEING A BAD BOOK!
in fact.. in my humble opinion.. it is an AWESOME BOOK!!
so good in fact... that when i was moving from the philippines to the
states... i had to decide which comic books i had to lug from home to
college...
and out of all the comic books i had... i happened to choose all THREE OF
THE DAMAGA CONTROL LIMITED SERIES to bring with me..
i chose them over.. my PAD/KEOWN hulk run... my entire "valuable" Todd
McFarlane Spawn and Spiderman collections... and my entire collection of
old X-Factor and New Mutants issues...
do you see my point?
i thought the first DAMAGE CONTROL limited series was AWESOME! the third
one was kind of weak.. mainly because of the art.. but... i seriously
thought it was a GREAT IDEA.. and WELL EXECUTED!!
i loved it..
i also pleasantly remember an IRON ANNUAL.. where there was a special
section in the back.. which was really funny..
it was a section.. filled with simple.. back-and-forth correspondences
between damage contral, stark enterprises.. and i think SHIELD..
it was hilarious.
and actually..
i actually WON A NO-PRIZE because of damage control..
i dunno how many of you read STAN's SOAPBOX.. but he had a contest in one
of his columns to name a comic book marvel once published.. about a
company taht cleaned up after super heroes..
AND I WON A NO-PRIZE!!
so if there;s one thing i will never forget..
ITS DAMAGE CONTROL and how cool it was..
and i can't believe.. the writed of damage control actually reads this
NEWSGROUP! that is so awesome.
hi dwayne... any possibilities for the return of damage control?
i kinda wish kurt busiek would mention damage control in his current run
on the avengers.. just coz he's a big comic book history buff..
ok.. wahetever.
thanks for listening
-------------------
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tmy...@nwu.edu
http://www.ece.nwu.edu/~tmyang
http://uglytwin.freeservers.com
http://min.freeservers.com
Daydreams
>
> >I got one....
> >
> >DAMAGE CONTROL
Are you KIDDING?!!?!?
Damage Control was one of the most original titles Marvel has ever
attempted.
Especially the issue "By Doom Defaults", where Damage Control tries to
collect on the tardy bill of a certain Latverian monarch.
If you want bad comics, there's always U.S. 1 to kick around.
Dave Haddy
Daydreams Comics
http://www.avalon.net/~daydream
The Great and Powerful Danny Sichel
> DwayneM595 wrote:
>>> I got one....
>>> DAMAGE CONTROL
> Are you KIDDING?!!?!?
Yes, he's kidding.
> Damage Control was one of the most original titles Marvel has ever attempted.
Dwayne knows that. He wrote it.
Alt_Real
read a preview copy of it yesterday and I can't believe how
horrible it was. There is going to be a lot of people posting
here next week bitching about what a mess it is.
Ralph, Alternate Reality Comics - Las Vegas
Daydreams wrote in message <360BB4...@avalon.net>...
>DwayneM595 wrote:
>>
>> >I got one....
>> >
>> >DAMAGE CONTROL
>
>Are you KIDDING?!!?!?
>
>Damage Control was one of the most original titles Marvel has ever
>attempted.
>
crunc...@my-dejanews.com
do...@midway.uchicago.edu (thad a doria) wrote:
> In article <35F726...@earthlink.net>,
> Alan Travis <amtr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >Brad Douglas wrote:
> >
> >> What series in Marvel's history do you think was the all time worst?
> >
>
> Marvel Universe only? U.S. 1
> Marvel All-time? Spitfire and the Troubleshooters
>
Obviously mileage may vary (I loved all the Razorline books, for
example -- but I'd vote for a comic I picked up only last
weekend -- The Generic Comic Book.
I got the point. I just don't think it worked. And
who wrote it anyway?
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