Marvel should make the Green Goblin what it should be-a evil,sinister force.The Jackel,before he died, could have constructed a genetically merged clone of Norman and Harry Osborne . This new Goblin could go on to kill Ben-Spiderman as well as that dopey false Greenie superhero-wannabe. That way the REAL Goblin and Peter-Spiderman could feud happilly ever after.
hef...@nyc.pipeline.com (Joseph Heffernan) writes: > Marvel should make the Green Goblin what it should be-a evil,sinister >force.The Jackel,before he died, could have constructed a genetically >merged clone of Norman and Harry Osborne . This new Goblin could go on to >kill Ben-Spiderman as well as that dopey false Greenie superhero-wannabe. >That way the REAL Goblin and Peter-Spiderman could feud happilly ever >after.
Good idea, but it won't work. Personally, I believe all goblins are evil and should remain that way. A Hero that throws pumpkin bombs? No.
the reason it won't work, is because when Marvel follows what I said they plan to do all along--and that is bring back Pete is real. Not because Bob et al. are boycotting, but because that's been the plan all along-- Bob will rally the forces to boycott the Spider books until the Clone, evil goblin is brought back.
BTW, Jackel may have Ned Leeds' DNA (ASM #149)....perhaps a Ned Clone? Maybe Jackel gave him goblin clothing and we'll get a better Hobgoblin. Not an idea I like (keep Ned dead), but a possibility.
How do you know that the real Harry Osborne is dead? He created the fake parents of Peter Parker, so maybe he made a copy of himself and it was the Harry that died while he's still waiting in the shadows to strike.
> Date: 6 OCT 1995 00:01:07 -0400 > From: Kitchen T <kitch...@aol.com> > Newgroups: rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe > Subject: Re: The REAL Green Goblin
> Harry's dead. Really dead. Really and truly dead. We go so far as to > exhume his body in the upcoming Legacy of Evil one-shot.
> And if I ever stoop to having someone clone Harry, or reveal that it was > only some genetic duplicate who died, please somebody shoot me.
> Tom Brevoort
Hmm, A little sick of clones are we?
Something unrelated: What was the idea behind killing him off in the first place? It was a great story thread, and I was just curious. [definitely not critical].
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In article <4529m3$...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, kitch...@aol.com (Kitchen T) says:
>Harry's dead. Really dead. Really and truly dead. We go so far as to >exhume his body in the upcoming Legacy of Evil one-shot.
>And if I ever stoop to having someone clone Harry, or reveal that it was >only some genetic duplicate who died, please somebody shoot me.
>Tom Brevoort
I can assure you that should that happen, many of us are 'locked and loaded'! Besides, you are a better writer than that and as such should never have to dig yourself out of a hole with such a pathetic attempt to snare an audience.
This is what Joseph Heffernan (hef...@nyc.pipeline.com) wrote:
> Marvel should make the Green Goblin what it should be-a evil,sinister >force.The Jackel,before he died, could have constructed a genetically >merged clone of Norman and Harry Osborne . This new Goblin could go on to >kill Ben-Spiderman as well as that dopey false Greenie superhero-wannabe. >That way the REAL Goblin and Peter-Spiderman could feud happilly ever >after.
Speaking of Green Goblin... I find it very stupid that someone would use the name and costume of a known criminal who has a very very bad public reputation, and for a reason too. I admit that I'm not exactly up to date to why the Goblin is Mr. Nice Guy these days but I don't see why someone couldn't just use another identity that wouldn't have all those negative feelings associated with it... especially as the person behind the mask is obviously not Norman Osborn... (That much I DO know about it. I'm under the impression that this Goblin is Harry, but I simply don't know for sure.) I mean, if someone was to dress up as Hitler, complete with plastic surgery and a couple of swastikas and proceeded to help Mother Theresa, I doubt people would be overly impressed and/or convinced. So why do it when you could simply skip the plastic surgery and toss the swastikas out of the window and do some real good WITHOUT being cast in a bad light from the start?
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kitch...@aol.com (Kitchen T) wrote: >And if I ever stoop to having someone clone Harry, or reveal that it was >only some genetic duplicate who died, please somebody shoot me. >Tom Brevoort
But if we did, someone at Marvel would bring you back to life... ;->
-- Adam Schultz < aschu...@iu.net > (old Marvel characters never die...really!)
watch...@xgw10.pal.xgw.fi (Mikko Rautalahti - Warner Music Finland Oy) writes: : This is what Joseph Heffernan (hef...@nyc.pipeline.com) wrote: : > Marvel should make the Green Goblin what it should be-a evil,sinister : >force.The Jackel,before he died, could have constructed a genetically : >merged clone of Norman and Harry Osborne . This new Goblin could go on to : >kill Ben-Spiderman as well as that dopey false Greenie superhero-wannabe. : >That way the REAL Goblin and Peter-Spiderman could feud happilly ever : >after. : : Speaking of Green Goblin... I find it very stupid that someone : would use the name and costume of a known criminal who has a very very : bad public reputation, and for a reason too. I admit that I'm not exactly : up to date to why the Goblin is Mr. Nice Guy these days but I don't see : why someone couldn't just use another identity that wouldn't have all : those negative feelings associated with it... especially as the person : behind the mask is obviously not Norman Osborn... (That much I DO know : about it. I'm under the impression that this Goblin is Harry, but I : simply don't know for sure.)
Not Harry, it's a new character (I think). Ben Urich's nephew, Ben being a reporter at the Daily Bugle. From what we've seen so far, he needs to wear the Goblin mask to have the powers. Hey, what a great idea for a movie. :)
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I assume the idea behind killing Harry off was both to end his story on a poignant, fulfiling note, and to at last put an end to the problem with the character (i.e. if he knows Spidey's identity and doesn't do anything with that knowledge, he comes off as pathetic.) I'd have to guess that Harry's death was DeMatteis's idea--and I think he did a wonderful job with the story.
> Date: 8 OCT 1995 01:18:59 -0400 > From: Kitchen T <kitch...@aol.com>
> I assume the idea behind killing Harry off was both to end his story on a > poignant, fulfiling note, and to at last put an end to the problem with > the character (i.e. if he knows Spidey's identity and doesn't do anything > with that knowledge, he comes off as pathetic.) I'd have to guess that > Harry's death was DeMatteis's idea--and I think he did a wonderful job > with the story.
> Tom Brevoort
Tom.
I agree completely. That was a wonderful story thread that made me excited to be a Spider-Man fan.
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: I assume the idea behind killing Harry off was both to end his story on a : poignant, fulfiling note, and to at last put an end to the problem with : the character (i.e. if he knows Spidey's identity and doesn't do anything : with that knowledge, he comes off as pathetic.) I'd have to guess that : Harry's death was DeMatteis's idea--and I think he did a wonderful job : with the story. : : Tom Brevoort
I agree, but (ya knew there had to be a but) I really wanted to see Harry go out and fight crime with Peter for a while. I did think the whole thing was very well done though.
