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Michael  
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 More options Nov 19 2009, 8:47 am
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From: Michael <thissp...@for.rent>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:47:05 -0800
Local: Thurs, Nov 19 2009 8:47 am
Subject: The Black Panter in live-action
I was watching 2012 yesterday (which I HIGHLY recommend as it's 2.5
hours of apocalyptical goodness!) and, while I'm not at all sure how
he'd look below the neck in the costume I thought that the actor who
played Dr. Adrian Helmsley, Chiwetel Ejiofor,
(http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0252230/) might be a good possibility for
the Black Panther.

Just thought I'd toss that out there.

Michael


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 More options Nov 19 2009, 11:46 am
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From: "Kenneth M. Lin" <kenneth_m_...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:46:59 -0800
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Subject: Re: The Black Panter in live-action

"Michael" <thissp...@for.rent> wrote in message

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>I was watching 2012 yesterday (which I HIGHLY recommend as it's 2.5 hours
>of apocalyptical goodness!) and, while I'm not at all sure how he'd look
>below the neck in the costume I thought that the actor who played Dr.
>Adrian Helmsley, Chiwetel Ejiofor, (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0252230/)
>might be a good possibility for the Black Panther.

> Just thought I'd toss that out there.

What are your reasons?  Please don't say because he's black.  He had zero
action scene in the movie.

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 More options Nov 19 2009, 11:59 am
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From: Michael <thissp...@for.rent>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:59:10 -0800
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Subject: Re: The Black Panter in live-action

His face (in the movie, not the main picture on his IMdb page) made me
think of an Alan Davis drawing of the character.  And while I think the
character is more than worthy enough and able enough to carry a movie or
television show on his own, I thought he'd make a good secondary
character to give the Avengers movie more superheroes in their ranks.

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 More options Nov 19 2009, 2:53 pm
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From: iarwain <iarwai...@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:53:40 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: The Black Panter in live-action

> I thought he'd make a good secondary character to give the Avengers movie more superheroes in their ranks.

A good idea, but they'll probably wait for Avengers II to throw in the
secondary superheroes.

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 More options Nov 19 2009, 4:46 pm
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From: "Kenneth M. Lin" <kenneth_m_...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:46:20 -0800
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Subject: Re: The Black Panter in live-action

"iarwain" <iarwai...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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>> I thought he'd make a good secondary character to give the Avengers movie
>> more superheroes in their ranks.

> A good idea, but they'll probably wait for Avengers II to throw in the
> secondary superheroes.

With any luck they'd turn Black Panther into a militant African-American
character from inner city ghetto that doesn't pay child support.

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 More options Nov 19 2009, 6:19 pm
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From: Michael <thissp...@for.rent>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:19:00 -0800
Subject: Re: The Black Panter in live-action

iarwain wrote:
>>I thought he'd make a good secondary character to give the Avengers movie more superheroes in their ranks.

> A good idea, but they'll probably wait for Avengers II to throw in the
> secondary superheroes.

Last I heard they were thinking of including at least some version of
Henry Pym and The Wasp as well as maybe another hero or two.

Has anyone heard/read anything about Ed Norton being involved?

Michael


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From: OM <om@all_trolls_must_DIE.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:11:23 -0600
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Subject: Re: The Black Panter in live-action
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:46:59 -0800, "Kenneth M. Lin"

<kenneth_m_...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>Chiwetel Ejiofor

...One of the few names in acting which is just as unpronouncable when
ROT13'd.

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 More options Nov 21 2009, 6:00 am
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From: "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nos...@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:00:08 -0600
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Subject: Re: The Black Panter in live-action

"Kenneth M. Lin" <kenneth_m_...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> "Michael" <thissp...@for.rent> wrote in message
> news:B%bNm.52507$gg6.2746@newsfe25.iad...
>>I was watching 2012 yesterday (which I HIGHLY recommend as it's 2.5 hours
>>of apocalyptical goodness!) and, while I'm not at all sure how he'd look
>>below the neck in the costume I thought that the actor who played Dr.
>>Adrian Helmsley, Chiwetel Ejiofor, (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0252230/)
>>might be a good possibility for the Black Panther.

>> Just thought I'd toss that out there.

> What are your reasons?  Please don't say because he's black.  He had zero
> action scene in the movie.

He was in a martial arts movie a year or so ago, RED BALL, that demonstrated
his action / acting chops, with that former magician who plays a lot of
magicans in movies and tv shows, something Jaye.

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 More options Nov 21 2009, 11:07 am
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From: Michael <thissp...@for.rent>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:07:35 -0800
Local: Sat, Nov 21 2009 11:07 am
Subject: Re: The Black Panter in live-action

Redbelt with Ricky Jay.

Did he look like he'd look good in spandex?

Michael


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 More options Nov 21 2009, 3:09 pm
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From: "Kenneth M. Lin" <kenneth_m_...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:09:52 -0800
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Subject: Re: The Black Panter in live-action

"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nos...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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It's RED "BELT,"  not RED "BALL."  I like the actor but despite his name he
looks too "Americanized" to play an African prince.

Will this be reserve of Fantastic Four where a black actress played Alicia
Masters but she was not explicitly stated as being black?  Sue Storm was
played by a hispanic actress while Johnny was played by a white dude.


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 More options Nov 24 2009, 3:34 am
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From: "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nos...@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:34:13 -0600
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Subject: Re: The Black Panter in live-action

"Michael" <thissp...@for.rent> wrote in message

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They made Michael Keaton look good in spandex, or whatever he wore in
BATMAN.

-- Ken from Chicago


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 More options Nov 24 2009, 3:36 am
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From: "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nos...@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:36:02 -0600
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Subject: Re: The Black Panter in live-action

"Kenneth M. Lin" <kenneth_m_...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Considering he's British, that's impressive. Then again, how does he look
"Americanized"?

> Will this be reserve of Fantastic Four where a black actress played Alicia
> Masters but she was not explicitly stated as being black?  Sue Storm was
> played by a hispanic actress while Johnny was played by a white dude.

-- Ken from Chicago

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 More options Nov 26 2009, 11:35 am
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From: Jinx <eyeluc...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:35:52 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: The Black Panter in live-action
On Nov 19, 8:47 am, Michael <thissp...@for.rent> wrote:

> I was watching 2012 yesterday (which I HIGHLY recommend as it's 2.5
> hours of apocalyptical goodness!) and, while I'm not at all sure how
> he'd look below the neck in the costume I thought that the actor who
> played Dr. Adrian Helmsley, Chiwetel Ejiofor,
> (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0252230/) might be a good possibility for
> the Black Panther.

> Just thought I'd toss that out there.

> Michael

Chiwetel Ejiofor has been mentioned before as a leading candidate for
the role.  Perhaps most significantly so by John Singleton who has
been attached to the project to bring T'Challa to the big screen for
some time.
http://www.firstshowing.net/2007/08/16/rumor-chiwetel-ejiofor-as-blac...

Ejiofor was also in Joss Whedon's SERENITY movie playing a physical
role. He has an impressive range (see "Kinky Boots") and, I agree
would be a great T'Challa.


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 More options Nov 26 2009, 9:46 pm
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From: Michael <thissp...@for.rent>
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:46:53 -0800
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Subject: Re: The Black Panter in live-action

Pulls off a good American accent in the movie I guess?

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 More options Nov 26 2009, 9:48 pm
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From: Michael <thissp...@for.rent>
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:48:26 -0800
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Subject: Re: The Black Panter in live-action

I want to say that the majority of that Batcuit was sculpted rubber but
I'm not at all sure.

Michael


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 More options Nov 26 2009, 9:57 pm
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From: Michael <thissp...@for.rent>
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:57:32 -0800
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Subject: Re: The Black Panter in live-action

Huh?

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 More options Dec 5 2009, 9:56 am
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From: arrom...@rahul.net (Ken Arromdee)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 14:56:15 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: Re: The Black Panter in live-action
Fans can do the research and get that Black Panther was created before
the Black Panthers had any popularity, and that the name "Black Panther"
was used lots of times in media before the Black Panthers made it as
unpopular as naming your child Lolita.

It is guaranteed that if a Black Panther movie is made, the general audience
will not get it.

This may lead to trouble.

(Is the pro-wrestling group still a troll group?)
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 More options Dec 5 2009, 11:22 am
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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 09:22:43 -0700
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Subject: Re: The Black Panter in live-action
In article <hfdsaf$9f...@blue.rahul.net>,
 arrom...@rahul.net (Ken Arromdee) wrote:

> Fans can do the research and get that Black Panther was created before
> the Black Panthers had any popularity, and that the name "Black Panther"
> was used lots of times in media before the Black Panthers made it as
> unpopular as naming your child Lolita.

Hmm.  Marvel Black Panther, July 1966, Black Panther 'political' party,
October 15, 1966.  Good call.

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 More options Dec 5 2009, 2:05 pm
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From: STRATEGY <strategy...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 11:05:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: The Black Panter in live-action
On Dec 5, 6:56 am, arrom...@rahul.net (Ken Arromdee) wrote:

> Fans can do the research and get that Black Panther was created before
> the Black Panthers had any popularity, and that the name "Black Panther"
> was used lots of times in media before the Black Panthers made it as
> unpopular as naming your child Lolita.

Can you tell us what you mean by The Black Panther Party having made
the term "unpopular"?

STRATEGY


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From: arrom...@rahul.net (Ken Arromdee)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 20:59:57 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: Re: The Black Panter in live-action
In article <1ea8c097-263b-4799-be80-24f0a92b2...@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,

STRATEGY  <strategy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Can you tell us what you mean by The Black Panther Party having made
>the term "unpopular"?

I don't understand the question.  "Unpopular" has a pretty well known
meaning.  Nobody wants to call their movie or group or character or whatever
the Black Panther any more now that the Black Panthers have tainted the
name.
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 More options Dec 16 2009, 12:23 pm
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From: Hand-of-Omega <handofom...@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:23:54 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: The Black Panter in live-action
On Dec 5, 9:56 am, arrom...@rahul.net (Ken Arromdee) wrote:
> Fans can do the research and get that Black Panther was created before
> the Black Panthers had any popularity, and that the name "Black Panther"
> was used lots of times in media before the Black Panthers made it as
> unpopular as naming your child Lolita.

> It is guaranteed that if a Black Panther movie is made, the general audience
> will not get it.

> This may lead to trouble.

Well, that's why Stan and Jack briefly changed him to "The Black
Leopard" or something, before apparently going "to hell with it". If
it didn't make the world explode back then, when the Black Panthers
were regularly in the news, there's no way it will now...

Not to say that there won't be confusion, tho. I recall reading awhile
ago that many folks thought that Wesley Snipes was going to play the
comic character, but the project was apparently about the activist
group (and fell thru anyway)...

Dex


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 More options Dec 17 2009, 3:21 am
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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:21:07 -0600
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Subject: Re: The Black Panter in live-action
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:23:54 -0800 (PST), Hand-of-Omega

<handofom...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Dec 5, 9:56 am, arrom...@rahul.net (Ken Arromdee) wrote:
>> It is guaranteed that if a Black Panther movie is made, the general audience
>> will not get it.

>> This may lead to trouble.

...We live in a more enlightened time, Ken. Then again, late-night
arthouse showings of "Sweet Sweetback's Badassssss(*) Song" still
tends to get sold-out audiences consisting mostly of black folks. So
who knows what a live-action "Black Panther" flick would result in?
Personally would prefer seeing Denzel Washington in the role than
Wesley Snipes, tho.

(*) Would you believe that even Melvin Van Peebles isn't sure just how
many extra s's are in "Badasssss"?

>Well, that's why Stan and Jack briefly changed him to "The Black
>Leopard" or something, before apparently going "to hell with it". If
>it didn't make the world explode back then, when the Black Panthers
>were regularly in the news, there's no way it will now...

...This is correct. IIRC, they even mentioned something to this effect
in one of the lettercols, and Roy Thomas went on record a couple of
times in the 80's about an alternative name that may have been Jack's
original name for the character, the "Coal Tiger". As for what the
actual Panthers thought about the whole thing, ISTR Huey Newton making
some comment to the effect that he "didn't give a damn what some
cracker funny book writer wrote", but that was a *long* time ago in a
college government course taught by a somewhat controversial professor
at the time. Might be tempted to look the guy up and see if he can
actually cite source for that one.

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