Terrence Howard - why fired from Iron Man 2?
Ohioguy
another actor to play James Rhodes in the new Iron Man sequel. It
seemed strange, since the movie did well.
Last week, I found out that Terrence Howard was actually paid MORE
for doing Iron Man I than Robert Downey Jr. was. Marvel actually told
Terrence that he needed to take a pay cut for the sequel.
What the heck? I mean, actually asking one of the leads to take a
CUT in pay, when the original movie was hugely popular? I mean, I
understand wanting to hold down costs, but how about just asking him to
take the same amount of pay?
Then I just heard that in the advertising for Iron Man 2, they will
have Howard's replacement turn to the audience, say "It's me - get over it".
There is something seriously wrong with this. I mean, what - do they
think that all black guys look alike to the viewers, so nobody will
really care or notice?
I think it is completely wrong that they did this to Terrence. As a
Marvel stockholder, fan and longtime subscriber to the comic, I want to
apologize for this regrettable treatment. It is most unfortunate that
the penny pinchers at the company ended up making this shortsighted
decision, which will decrease the "suspension of disbelief" of audiences
when they have to get used to a new cast.
Anim8rFSK
Ohioguy <no...@none.net> wrote:
Well, first, Howard was terrible in the part, and absolutely the worst
part of the film, and when you're worse than Paltrow, that's saying
something.
Second, he wasn't fired, he wouldn't take their offer. Tough titty.
There's nothing to apologize for. All they owe us is entertainment, and
by all accounts, they've spent less and put a better actor in the role.
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grinningdemon
wrote:
I agree with you completely about Howard...he just didn't bring
anything interesting to the role...but I thought Paltrow was a pretty
good fit...when I first heard about the casting, I expected it to turn
out like Jessica Alba as Sue Storm...but I think it worked.
Kevin
has more command of how the charcter should sound and act. Howard just
sounded whiney.
Kev
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OM
> I think it is completely wrong that they did this to Terrence.
...He's not that great an actor to begin with, and definitely
shouldn't have been paid as much as he was for the pathetic little
performance he did on IM1. He was clearly miscast as Rhodey, with a
voice that's at least three octaves higher than the character
requires.
OM
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Anim8rFSK
dac...@worldnet.att.net
> In article <sd4gj5l7ia56dof2op5tstp9ko5q96a...@4ax.com>,
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> grinningdemon <grinningde...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:50:19 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net>
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Also, he should be grateful that they offered a part in the first
place. Being an actor does not guarentee work.
Dave
Windsor Morgan
Ohioguy <no...@none.net> wrote:
> I mean, what - do they
> think that all black guys look alike to the viewers, so nobody will
> really care or notice?
Well, Tommy Lee Jones replaced Billy Dee Williams as Harvey Dent and
nobody noticed.
:-)
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'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
Windsor Morgan
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania
Kenneth M. Lin
Tim Turnip
By the same logic, the studio should have been equally grateful to
have access to Mr. Howard's services, since their arrangement, like
any ostensibly equitable employment, implies an fair exchange of work
for pay.
I doubt anyone reading this newsgroup truly knows enough to know who
was in the right or wrong regarding Howard's friction with Paramount,
if such judgements could even be applied.
I personally think Howard was fine in the role, which itself was too
limited to show off much of a true performance from anyone, and I
think he would have grown in the role if he'd stuck around for its
expansion in the sequel. I also think Howard is more the kind of
grounded, everyday-man actor suited to play Rhodey, as opposed to
Cheadle, who while a fine Oscar-worthy talent, is more of a chamelonic
actor suited for more flamboyant dramatic roles.
(Paltrow was also fine -- no matter what the reputation about her
off-camera personality, she's a decent comedic actress, and pretty
darn far from an ornament like Alba.)
M.O.R
> In article <QqJZm.34357$_b5.24...@newsfe22.iad>,
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> > I mean, what - do they
> > think that all black guys look alike to the viewers, so nobody will
> > really care or notice?
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> Well, Tommy Lee Jones replaced Billy Dee Williams as Harvey Dent and
> nobody noticed.
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> 'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
> Windsor Morgan
> Harrisburg, Pennsylvania
Yes they did. The most obvious part was how terribly he was cast in
that film. His who character was just awful.
M.O.R
> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:39:00 -0800 (PST), "dach...@worldnet.att.net"
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An ornament would have been far more entertaining than the wooden,
lifeless performance we got from Alba. Her attempts to be sexy also
backfired, especially when she is transformed by the cosmic rays
sequence. Everyone else is screaming in agony as the rays affect
them, she moves towards the camera smiling. Did she not know she was
supposed to be in agony as she was doused in rays?
The sequence has to be watched again to believe it. But it is just
stupid to see it the first time, and afterwards. Thankfully they
scrapped the franchise and are going with a complete reboot instead.
They just were too bad the first time.
Tacguy
in the film, depending upon who was providing the information about
the comic character and background to to the casting person.
Rhodes is somewhat of a loose cannon as well as Stark. The actor
really has to have the ability to show the harder edge as well and
make us believe it.
It is hard to conceive of an actor that isn't to large like Will Smith
or too old like Fishbourne. I think the best modern choice when
considering age would be Jamie Foxx. Cheadle is good, don't get me
wrong and I am sure I will like him in the end.
Lilith
Wholeheartedly agree. I can take Jim Carey in small doses and I think
his Riddler was supposed to be a darker version (per the franchise
tendency of the movie) of the Gorshin TV characterization. Two Face,
OTOH, should have been dark...ish and yet Jones played it over the top
manic, rather like the Joker as portrayed in the TV series by Ceasar
Romero. At the time I think actors had a strange idea of what the
comic books were.
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Lilith
Anim8rFSK
Lilith <lili...@gmail.com> wrote:
I think we can blame that primarily on the director.