bronze age
Robert Hernandez
In following the line of logic where Gold and Silver age heroes are
discussed in the past tense, would our current crop be considered Bronze
Age heroes?
If not, then what are they to be referred as?
One final point, there is NO medal after bronze. This bodes not well for
the future of our beloved media.
Any ideas as to what will happen next?
Robert 629
Carter Lupton
Robert Hernandez (Roberta...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: In following the line of logic where Gold and Silver age heroes are
: discussed in the past tense, would our current crop be considered Bronze
: Age heroes?
: One final point, there is NO medal after bronze. This bodes not well for
: the future of our beloved media.
The Golden Age was the superheroes of the late '30s to late '40s.
The Silver Age was the superheroes of the mid '50s to late '60s.
Joseph Koch's catalogues refer to both Bronze and Lead ages.
If the Bronze age is the '70s ("when comics got relevant"), did the Lead
age begin post-Crisis (mid '80s), when the whole DC world turned
topsy-turvy?
Doug Torrance
Robert Hernandez wrote:
>
> In following the line of logic where Gold and Silver age heroes are
> discussed in the past tense, would our current crop be considered Bronze
> Age heroes?
>
>
> the future of our beloved media.
>
>
> Robert 629
>
>
I read once that there were these Ages after the Golden and
Silver:
Copper: late 70s, early 80s
Diamond: mid 80s-early 90s
Platinum or Chromium: mid 90s-present
Of course, we probably won't get any definite terms for these
eras for about another few decades. I'm sure they didn't run
around in the 40s saying that it was the Golden Age of
Comics. It probably took a while for that name to be
attributed to it.
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Squamulos
I prefer to think of the Post Zero Hour and Heroes Reborn era as the STONE
AGE. They've blasted, bombed and blitzed the work of better men to the
point where I can't even buy DC or Marvel any more.
Tim
Sean Christian Daugherty
On 3 Jan 1997 14:20:53 GMT, "Robert Hernandez"
<Roberta...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>In following the line of logic where Gold and Silver age heroes are
>discussed in the past tense, would our current crop be considered Bronze
>Age heroes?
I would consider the Bronze Age, for DC at least, to be from the early
'70's (with the first-stage revamping of the classics, like Supes,
Bats, etc.) to the "Crisis on Infinite Earths". This fits the 10-15
year era that the Golden and Silver Ages do, and defines a turning
point for the characters.
>One final point, there is NO medal after bronze. This bodes not well for
>the future of our beloved media.
>
>Any ideas as to what will happen next?
Iron Age?
Eric Lee Bailey
>
>
> Robert Hernandez (Roberta...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
> : In following the line of logic where Gold and Silver age heroes are
> : discussed in the past tense, would our current crop be considered Bronze
> : Age heroes?
>
> : One final point, there is NO medal after bronze. This bodes not well for
> : the future of our beloved media.
>
> The Golden Age was the superheroes of the late '30s to late '40s.
> The Silver Age was the superheroes of the mid '50s to late '60s.
>
> Joseph Koch's catalogues refer to both Bronze and Lead ages.
>
> If the Bronze age is the '70s ("when comics got relevant"), did the Lead
> age begin post-Crisis (mid '80s), when the whole DC world turned
> topsy-turvy?
> Robert Hernandez (Roberta...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
> : In following the line of logic where Gold and Silver age heroes are
> : discussed in the past tense, would our current crop be considered Bronze
> : Age heroes?
>
> : One final point, there is NO medal after bronze. This bodes not well for
> : the future of our beloved media.
>
> The Golden Age was the superheroes of the late '30s to late '40s.
> The Silver Age was the superheroes of the mid '50s to late '60s.
>
> Joseph Koch's catalogues refer to both Bronze and Lead ages.
>
>I think we are still in the latter-stages of the 3rd age (or Bronze Age, if
you will). I would say it began in the mid-seventies with the Claremont
X-Men and the rise of the indies (beginning with Cerebus and Elfquest).
That began a great, literate period for comics, with too many highlights to
go into here. It will end when that revolution finally dies down (which it
has been showing signs of doing, but hasn't quite happened yet). If Marvel
does collapse, we can take that as the end of an era.
E
Percival23
.
Eric Lee Bailey
>
>
> On 3 Jan 1997 14:20:53 GMT, "Robert Hernandez"
> <Roberta...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> >In following the line of logic where Gold and Silver age heroes are
> >discussed in the past tense, would our current crop be considered Bronze
> >Age heroes?
>
> I would consider the Bronze Age, for DC at least, to be from the early
> '70's (with the first-stage revamping of the classics, like Supes,
> Bats, etc.) to the "Crisis on Infinite Earths". This fits the 10-15
> year era that the Golden and Silver Ages do, and defines a turning
> point for the characters.
>
> >One final point, there is NO medal after bronze. This bodes not well for
> >the future of our beloved media.
> >
> >Any ideas as to what will happen next?
>
> Iron Age?
I think, for DC, the silver age ended with the Implosion. It was the
Wolfman/Perez Titans and Alan Moore Swamp Things that began the modern era
for DC, and brought it back to prominance.
E
Percival23
.
David Blocher
Eric Lee Bailey wrote:
> >In following the line of logic where Gold and Silver age heroes are
> > >discussed in the past tense, would our current crop be considered Bronze
> > >Age heroes?
> >
> > I would consider the Bronze Age, for DC at least, to be from the early
> > '70's (with the first-stage revamping of the classics, like Supes,
> > Bats, etc.) to the "Crisis on Infinite Earths". This fits the 10-15
> > year era that the Golden and Silver Ages do, and defines a turning
> > point for the characters.
Nope, the Bronze Age will be considered from 1986 which begins the new Continuity,
to when the next drastically changed continuity begans.
Golden Age was the age where the Original Conceptions were created.
Silver Age was the age where The Original Conceptions were revised to fit there time era.
Bronze Age is the age where the two version were unified into one Continuity, and vast
changes where made.
Iron Age (tennitive) will be the age were the Multiverse is re-created and Earth-2, and
Earth-1 will be found to have been enveloped into the Anti Matter Universe, and the Mainstream
DC Universe will be considered a yet new Universe.
> > >One final point, there is NO medal after bronze. This bodes not well for
> > >the future of our beloved media.
> > >
> > >Any ideas as to what will happen next?
> >
> > Iron Age?
Nope, just have to wait and see!
> I think, for DC, the silver age ended with the Implosion. It was the
> Wolfman/Perez Titans and Alan Moore Swamp Things that began the modern era
> for DC, and brought it back to prominance.
Those series did bring renew interest to DC Comics, but it was Crisis on Infinate Earths #12 that ended
The Silver Age. That is when the Continuity was changed from the previous two versions. I think that the
Bronze Age of DC should begin with Booster Gold #1, which is the first character created for the current age of
comics. After all, when the Silver Age of DC was established, it was drawn with a new Continuity called
Earth-1, so the Bronze Age would begin with the new Earth and new Continuity we have today call Mainstream DC
Universe.
The Bronze Age of Marvel begins with the Fallen "New Universe".
Bruce L Grubb
In article <5aj87a$b...@uwm.edu>, lup...@www.mpm.edu (Carter Lupton) wrote:
> Robert Hernandez (Roberta...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
> : In following the line of logic where Gold and Silver age heroes are
> : discussed in the past tense, would our current crop be considered Bronze
> : Age heroes?
>
> : One final point, there is NO medal after bronze. This bodes not well for
> : the future of our beloved media.
>
> The Golden Age was the superheroes of the late '30s to late '40s.
> The Silver Age was the superheroes of the mid '50s to late '60s.
Accully the begining of the Silver Age seems to be dependent on which
comic company you're are a fan of. DC fans tend to have the Silver Age
began in 1955 with the introduction of the Barry Allan Flash (Showcase
#4), while Marvel fans put it in 1961 with the introdution of the
Fantastic Four.
Personly I feel that the chaos generated by Fredric Wertham's _Seduction
of the Innocent_ (1954) kept the comic industry too busy trying to survive
to really start a new age. So I tend to go with the 1961 date for the
beginning of the Silver Age.
The end of the Silver Age is harder to nail down and again seems dependent
on the comic company one is a fan of. The latest I have seen for the
ending of the Silver Age is clear to Crisis and Secret Wars (1985).
> Joseph Koch's catalogues refer to both Bronze and Lead ages.
Accually I prefer the Mythology baced name Iron and Iron/Clay Ages that I
tend to use for the deline of comics.
> If the Bronze age is the '70s ("when comics got relevant"), did the Lead
> age begin post-Crisis (mid '80s), when the whole DC world turned
> topsy-turvy?
Accually the Bronze Age has another name: Modern Horror Age (~1971 - ~1983).
As the alternate name suggests the Bronze Age is more more conserned with
the likes of _Tomb of Dracula_ and _House of Mystery_ than with the
general world of superheroes. As such the Bronze Age does -not- need to
follow the Silver Age and in fact for some people it even runs concurent
with the Silver Age.
In fact outside the relm of horror comics one rarely even hears about the
Bronze Age. AFAIK the Bronze Age didn't really effect superheroes comics
until near its end when one had Dracula fighting the X-Men and Superman
was meeting an increasing number of supernatural villians.
Bruce L Grubb
Let get this straight, the Bronze Age refers to mainly *horror* comics not
superhero comics. Fact its other name is the Modern Horror Age. It did
go into the superhero comics near is end in the early to mid 1980's with
X-men vs. Dracula and Superman battling more supernatural foes.
For all intents and purposes the Bronze age ended before Crisis and Secret
wars. DC verdigo comics are the present inharators of the Bronze age and
little else.
Sean Christian Daugherty
>Those series did bring renew interest to DC Comics, but it was Crisis on Infinate Earths #12 that ended
>The Silver Age. That is when the Continuity was changed from the previous two versions. I think that the
>Bronze Age of DC should begin with Booster Gold #1, which is the first character created for the current age of
>comics. After all, when the Silver Age of DC was established, it was drawn with a new Continuity called
>Earth-1, so the Bronze Age would begin with the new Earth and new Continuity we have today call Mainstream DC
>Universe.
Whoah, you're kind of lost, buddy. Most people agree the Silver Age
ended with the advent of "socially conscious" comics, some say even
earlier. The latest I can possibly see is the implosion. The
Golden/Silver Ages are not terms given for creative reasons, but for
the state of the comics market and overall direction. Sure, the
multiverses merged after Crisis, but there were no real change in
writing style. I'd place things like this:
Golden Age - 1939 - 1953
It's a larger time frame than most people give it, but I place
it's death when Capt. Marvel was forced out of publication.
Silver Age - 1957 - 1971
Bronze Age - 1972 - 1989
Move towards realism and social conscious in comics, with
GL/GA, Dark Knight Returns, Watchmen
Modern Age - 1990 - Present
Comics back away from the heavy-handed "realism" concept, but,
otherwise real distinction can't be placed until after it's
over.
Greg Schienke
bgr...@acca.nmsu.edu (Bruce L Grubb) wrote:
>Accully the begining of the Silver Age seems to be dependent on which
>comic company you're are a fan of. DC fans tend to have the Silver Age
>began in 1955 with the introduction of the Barry Allan Flash (Showcase
>#4), while Marvel fans put it in 1961 with the introdution of the
>Fantastic Four.
>
>Personly I feel that the chaos generated by Fredric Wertham's _Seduction
>of the Innocent_ (1954) kept the comic industry too busy trying to survive
>to really start a new age. So I tend to go with the 1961 date for the
>beginning of the Silver Age.
If it isn't bring back the multiverse debates, it is this one.
Push comes to shove, if it hadn't been for Flash in 1955, there would
not have been a Fantastic Four in 1961. Turth be told, you are the
first person I've ever heard give the 1961 date.
Greg
ja...@imagin.net
Hmmm. Pretty good breakdown. I'd suggest, though, that we rename the
period beginning in 1900 "The Corporate Age". This seems to be the
time in which the suits took over the industry, startin with the Death
of Superman and ultimately resulting in travesties like Heroes
Deformed and Super-Blue..
Certainly a bleak period for all of us.
Best,
John
ja...@imagin.net
Bruce L Grubb
In article <32d12958...@news.erols.com>, sean...@erols.com (Sean
Christian Daugherty) wrote:
[snip]
> Whoah, you're kind of lost, buddy. Most people agree the Silver Age
> ended with the advent of "socially conscious" comics, some say even
> earlier. The latest I can possibly see is the implosion. The
> Golden/Silver Ages are not terms given for creative reasons, but for
> the state of the comics market and overall direction. Sure, the
> multiverses merged after Crisis, but there were no real change in
> writing style. I'd place things like this:
>
> Golden Age - 1939 - 1953
> It's a larger time frame than most people give it, but I place
> it's death when Capt. Marvel was forced out of publication.
Fredric Wertham's _Seduction of the Innocent_ (1954) is generally reguared
as the end of the Golden Age.
> Silver Age - 1957 - 1971
The range here is so varied I doubt that any one can really say when the
Silver Age really started or ended. 1961 - 1974 is the most common range
I have seen though I have seen a 1985 date for the end of the Silver Age.
> Bronze Age - 1972 - 1989
> Move towards realism and social conscious in comics, with
> GL/GA, Dark Knight Returns, Watchmen
Not exactly correct as Bronze Age generally referes to the *horror* comics
of the 1971 - 1985 period. _Tomb of Dracula_ and _House of Mystery_ are
two examples. Some people call the superhero comics in this era "Late
Silver Age" because the term Bronze Age is so tied to horror comics.
> Modern Age - 1990 - Present
> Comics back away from the heavy-handed "realism" concept, but,
> otherwise real distinction can't be placed until after it's
> over.
I like the term Gimmic Age better as it sums up what has really happened
to comics lately.
Scott Hollifield
What's all this obsession over what to name it?
It's an accepted fact that no one can agree on when the Silver Age
began and ended. Personally, I feel that the diversification and
chaos that's ruled in the industry for the last decade helps make our
current era exempt from a single label of any kind. It's not like any
name you could give can be "official".
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Sean Christian Daugherty
On Sun, 05 Jan 1997 23:25:17 GMT, ja...@imagin.net () wrote:
>Hmmm. Pretty good breakdown. I'd suggest, though, that we rename the
>period beginning in 1900 "The Corporate Age". This seems to be the
>time in which the suits took over the industry, startin with the Death
>of Superman and ultimately resulting in travesties like Heroes
>Deformed and Super-Blue..
Beginning in 1900? Geez, you mean ever comic since "The Yellow Kid"?
Yikes, you are tough on 'em, aren't you? <VBG>
(Course, assuming you meant 19_9_0, then, yes, I'd agree)
Christopher Shea
In article <5apmb4$r...@herald.concentric.net>, sco...@cris.com (Scott
Hollifield) wrote:
So call it the Age of Chaos ... :) (Me, I prefer "Age of Diversity," but
I don't see people lining up around the block to support that, and I can't
say I blame them ... )
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That's ChrisTOPHER, not Chris, dammit.
Bruce L Grubb
In article <19970106194...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
epil...@aol.com (Epilchik) wrote:
> Sean Christian Daugherty wrote:
>
> >The Golden/Silver Ages are not terms given for creative reasons, but for
> >the state of the comics market and overall direction. Sure, the
> >multiverses merged after Crisis, but there were no real change in
> >writing style. I'd place things like this:
>
> >Golden Age - 1939 - 1953
> >It's a larger time frame than most people give it, but I place
> >it's death when Capt. Marvel was forced out of publication.
> >Silver Age - 1957 - 1971
> >Bronze Age - 1972 - 1989
> >Move towards realism and social conscious in comics, with
> >GL/GA, Dark Knight Returns, Watchmen
Right time period wrong classification. Wizard had an article about two
years ago that clearly stated that the Bronze Age is mainly conserned with
Modern Horror comics and its height was around 1970 - 1981.
Here are some examples of *true* Bronze Age comics:
Tomb of Dracula (reprinted in the 1990's)
House of Mystery
Boris Karloff: Tales of Mystery (Gold Key Comics)
Grimm's Ghost Stories (Gold Key Comics)
> If you're going to divide the Ages based on market conditions, how can the
> Bronze Age last from 1972 - 1989? Doesn't the rise to dominance of the
> direct market over newstand distribution count as a market condition at
> least as important as the cancellation of Cpt. Marvel?
>
> I think you'd have to end the Bronze Age when Marvel & DC started
> publishing Direct-Only comics (I think that would be Dazzler for Marvel &
> Camelot 3000 for DC).
The term Bronze Age is normally used by horror comic fans and refers to
the Modern Horror comic era which tends to lock it into the late 1960 to
mid 1980 period. IMHO try to shove it into another time period just
serves to confuse things as the Bronze Age is *already* defined.
The Mighty Timm
Bruce L Grubb (bgr...@acca.nmsu.edu) wrote:
: In article <32d12958...@news.erols.com>, sean...@erols.com (Sean
: Christian Daugherty) wrote:
: > Modern Age - 1990 - Present
: > Comics back away from the heavy-handed "realism" concept, but,
: > otherwise real distinction can't be placed until after it's
: > over.
: I like the term Gimmic Age better as it sums up what has really happened
: to comics lately.
I can't believe nobody's calling it the "foil age" or
"hologram age" or "5 different covers per book" age.
Just my two cents.
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: I can't believe nobody's calling it the "foil age" or
: "hologram age" or "5 different covers per book" age.
I've always pulled for "chrome age" myself.
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On 3 Jan 1997, Robert Hernandez wrote:
>One final point, there is NO medal after bronze. This bodes not well for
>the future of our beloved media.
There are actually Medals after Bronze, just not at the olympics.
Anyway, a more important thing to remember is:
Zeus created the Golden Race who died out, then he created the Silver Race
who turned evil (I think) then Promethesis created the Bronze Race, which
Zeus destroyed in the Flood and modern man was created from stones thrown
by the survivors...
I don't know how this relates, but it's more interestiong the the
medals...
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Bruce L Grubb
In article <32CF08...@televar.com>, David Blocher <blo...@televar.com>
wrote:
> Eric Lee Bailey wrote:
>
> > >In following the line of logic where Gold and Silver age heroes are
> > > >discussed in the past tense, would our current crop be considered Bronze
> > > >Age heroes?
> > >
> > > I would consider the Bronze Age, for DC at least, to be from the early
> > > '70's (with the first-stage revamping of the classics, like Supes,
> > > Bats, etc.) to the "Crisis on Infinite Earths". This fits the 10-15
> > > year era that the Golden and Silver Ages do, and defines a turning
> > > point for the characters.
>
> Nope, the Bronze Age will be considered from 1986 which begins the
> new Continuity, to when the next drastically changed continuity begans.
Not really because I first found out about the Bronze Age in Wizard about
two years ago. The term is used in the centext of Modern Horror comics
and it height is around the 1970 - 1982 period. The recent -Tomb of
Dracula- reprints are examples of a Bronze Age comic.
As near as I can figure out the Ages of comics are like this:
Golden Age: 1938 - 1954
Superman's first apperence is generally reguarded the beginning of the
Golden Age while Fredric Wertham's _Seduction of the Innocent_ (1954) is
generally reguared as its end.
Silver Age: 1955 - ~1974
Bronze (Modern Horror) Age ~1968 - ~1984 (Based on a Wizard article)
The revival of comics after Wertham. While the Barry Allen Flash (1955)
started this age the Fantastic Four (1961) really stimulated it.
Note that 1974 was the last year when comics were printed in the "Silver
Age" size and it seemed as good a year as any for the ending date.
Past Bronze there really are not any defintions of Ages but here are my
own ideas:
Late Silver Age: ~1970 - 1985
Silver Age characters in more socially meaningful or realistic stories.
Note the overlap with Silver Age proper. Ended by Crisis and Secret Wars.
Iron Age: 1985 - ~1991
The grim and gritty age when heroes became more human and less noble.
Iron and Clay Age 1991 - Present
As the name suggests this age is grim and gritty like the Iron Age but is
far more malable with character origins and histories changing almost on a
regular basis. At times it seems like the only thing holding the clay
together is the Gimics and the Iron (grim and gritty characters and
stories)
Note that in many mysthologies Iron and Clay is the Last Age. Eventually
the Clay becomes so large that the Iron can no longer hold it together and
the whole thing falls apart. After total chaos for a while the Golden Age
is supposedly reborn anew. This may be the case with comics.
Epilchik
Bruce L. Grubb wrote:
>Wizard had an article about two years ago that clearly stated that the
Bronze >Age is mainly conserned with Modern Horror comics and its height
was around
>1970 - 1981.
Oh, that was an article in Wizard! Let's accept that as gospel and cease
all this heretical discussion!
Sarcasm aside, the relaxation of the Comics Code that allowed the
publication of comics about vampires, werewolves, and the walking dead is
a turning point between "ages". But there are other turning points or
events that indicate the end of the Silver Age and the beginning of the
age after that (whether you call it Post-Silver Age, Bronze Age, or
something else).
Evan
Epilchik
The Mighty Timm wrote (re: the current Age of comics):
>I can't believe nobody's calling it the "foil age" or
>"hologram age" or "5 different covers per book" age.
I've heard the term Chromium Age tossed around. :-)
Evan
VLADIMIR JOSEPH
In article <19970106194...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
Epilchik <epil...@aol.com> wrote:
>Sean Christian Daugherty wrote:
>
>>The Golden/Silver Ages are not terms given for creative reasons, but for
>>the state of the comics market and overall direction. Sure, the
>>multiverses merged after Crisis, but there were no real change in
>>writing style. I'd place things like this:
>
>>Golden Age - 1939 - 1953
> >It's a larger time frame than most people give it, but I place
> >it's death when Capt. Marvel was forced out of publication.
>>Silver Age - 1957 - 1971
>>Bronze Age - 1972 - 1989
I would say that the bronze age ended in 1987 when jim shooter left
marvel,DC started these stupid summers crossovers like millenium and
armagueddon,mini-series become in demand.then too abundant,waaay too
abundant
> >Move towards realism and social conscious in comics, with
> >GL/GA, Dark Knight Returns, Watchmen
>
>If you're going to divide the Ages based on market conditions, how can the
>Bronze Age last from 1972 - 1989? Doesn't the rise to dominance of the
>direct market over newstand distribution count as a market condition at
>least as important as the cancellation of Cpt. Marvel?
>
>I think you'd have to end the Bronze Age when Marvel & DC started
>publishing Direct-Only comics (I think that would be Dazzler for Marvel &
>Camelot 3000 for DC).
>
>Evan
The rusty age of comics started in 1988 and continues on to this day
The rusty age has:
Inter-company crossovers
Heroes appearing in other books that don't sell
The great artists doing less and less work (anybody seen gene day ? )
Summer crossovers
Too many 2-page spreads
Good artist can't draw two comics a month like before
Gimmick covers
And you know the rest
BTW,liefeld 's hawk and dove was published in 1988 too,coincidence ?
Until DC goes bankrupt
Vj,fashion mobster,moral mafia
Allen W. Wright
Bruce L Grubb wrote:
>
> > Silver Age - 1957 - 1971
>
> The range here is so varied I doubt that any one can really say when the
> Silver Age really started or ended. 1961 - 1974 is the most common range
> I have seen though I have seen a 1985 date for the end of the Silver Age.
Outside of your posts here, I've never seen the Silver Age pegged as
beginning in 1961. I usually see two dates for the Silver Age's
beginning. Either 1955 with the introduction of the Martian Manhunter or
1956 with the introduction of the Barry Allen Flash.
Of course, 1961 does mark the start of the Marvel Age, but that's
really more self-promoting hype than anything else.
Puck
Ken Arromdee
lehn...@phish.nether.net (The Mighty Timm) wrote:
>: I like the term Gimmic Age better as it sums up what has really happened
>: to comics lately.
>"hologram age" or "5 different covers per book" age.
"Dark Age" works fine. It describes the grim and gritty trend, and also
expresses the fact that something is _wrong_ with the market.
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>As the alternate name suggests the Bronze Age is more more conserned with
>the likes of _Tomb of Dracula_ and _House of Mystery_ than with the
>general world of superheroes. As such the Bronze Age does -not- need to
>follow the Silver Age and in fact for some people it even runs concurent
>with the Silver Age.
I'd not only go with this (though the end might come a little earlier), but
also add Conan to the mix. He started up at about the right time, as a
successful mainstream non-superhero comic.
I would say that it does follow the Silver Age, if you consider the end of
the Silver Age to be Kirby moving to DC and Weisinger retiring.
The Bronze Age (or whatever you call the post-silver age) was also marked by
a number of revivals, both successful and unsuccessful. I would call the
new X-Men a late example of this, though its period of popularity would be
in another age.
dscot...@aol.com
In article <5au577$f...@newsflash.concordia.ca>, v_j...@alcor.concordia.ca
( VLADIMIR JOSEPH ) writes:
>BTW,liefeld 's hawk and dove was published in 1988 too,coincidence ?
>
>Until DC goes bankrupt
Probably, Mr. Troll, as it was a good series.
Dave Doty
"Is it cheating if you tell me if I grew up to be pretty?"
"You. . . you grew up beautiful, Kara!"
Alan Moore, "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?"
Chris Coleman
v_j...@alcor.concordia.ca ( VLADIMIR JOSEPH ) wrote:
>The rusty age of comics started in 1988 and continues on to this day
Hmm. Gold, Silver, Bronze . . . I'd call the current one the
"Tarnished Age". Fortunately, the Busiek/Waid Polishing Cream Company
seems to be putting some of the shine back on.
Cole