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Utilisateur1

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Mar 19, 2003, 4:06:03 AM3/19/03
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can someone tell me who is PEACEMAKER
and in what group he was (if you have name of the other ... or a link)
thanks a lot


Glenn Simpson

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Mar 19, 2003, 10:31:55 AM3/19/03
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"Utilisateur1" <yan...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message news:<b59bk4$oda$1...@news-reader10.wanadoo.fr>...

> can someone tell me who is PEACEMAKER
> and in what group he was (if you have name of the other ... or a link)
> thanks a lot

IIRC his name is Chris Smith (changed from Schmidt), and he's a wacko
who thinks his dead Nazi father lives inside his Peacemaker helmet.
The ghost of his father is constantly badgering him about what he's
doing and telling him he's not good enough.

Anyway, Peacemaker is a super-hero, sorta, in that he wants to stop
bad guys. But of course he does it by blowing them away. Not real big
on due process.

He has access to lots of cool tech and planes and stuff (not sure
where he gets his money).

I think he's been known to get sidetracked and go after the wrong
people, and/or run into heroes who don't want him to go quite so far
in stopping the bad guys.

He was sorta the original Punisher.

As for groups, he was affiliated somewhat with Checkmate for a while,
before he was killed by Eclipso.

Based on the LAW miniseries, after his death an organization was
created called Peacemaker that has individual agents who go on
missions and stuff. Most of the LAW miniseries seems to be ignored,
though. I could be wrong, but I don't think any of the elements of the
series have been mentioned anywhere else.

The Operative

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Mar 19, 2003, 2:22:23 PM3/19/03
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IIRC, Peacemaker inherited a ton of Nazi payola, and uses it in his
"fight against terror." The "original Punisher" idea is not far off,
but from some early books I read, he also did a kind of James-Bondish
man of mystery thing that's been lost in recent years. He's more of a
gun-toting wacko now, and truth be told, I find him much more
entertaining this way.

I mean, I always liked the specialized jet and jetpack routine, but
how can you not love a guy with a toilet seat on his head? >8^)

-Hannibal Tabu
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Grant Giandonato

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Mar 19, 2003, 6:41:20 PM3/19/03
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"The Operative" <hte...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> IIRC, Peacemaker inherited a ton of Nazi payola, and uses it in his
> "fight against terror." The "original Punisher" idea is not far off,
> but from some early books I read, he also did a kind of James-Bondish
> man of mystery thing that's been lost in recent years. He's more of a
> gun-toting wacko now, and truth be told, I find him much more
> entertaining this way.
>
> I mean, I always liked the specialized jet and jetpack routine, but
> how can you not love a guy with a toilet seat on his head? >8^)

LOL. Nothing better then a little JLI humor. :-)
--
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Andrew

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Mar 20, 2003, 1:43:26 AM3/20/03
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"Grant Giandonato" <ggian...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "The Operative" <hte...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> >
> > I mean, I always liked the specialized jet and jetpack routine, but
> > how can you not love a guy with a toilet seat on his head? >8^)
>
> LOL. Nothing better then a little JLI humor. :-)
> --
> Grant Giandonato
>
Yep, that issue ruined Peacemaker forever for me, too. Man I miss that book
:)

Andrew


WRH Bill

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Mar 23, 2003, 3:43:57 PM3/23/03
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>> can someone tell me who is PEACEMAKER
>> and in what group he was (if you have name of the other ... or a link)
>> thanks a lot
>
>IIRC his name is Chris Smith (changed from Schmidt), and he's a wacko
>who thinks his dead Nazi father lives inside his Peacemaker helmet.
>The ghost of his father is constantly badgering him about what he's
>doing and telling him he's not good enough.
>
>Anyway, Peacemaker is a super-hero, sorta, in that he wants to stop
>bad guys. But of course he does it by blowing them away. Not real big
>on due process.
>
>He has access to lots of cool tech and planes and stuff (not sure
>where he gets his money).
>
>I think he's been known to get sidetracked and go after the wrong
>people, and/or run into heroes who don't want him to go quite so far
>in stopping the bad guys.
>
>He was sorta the original Punisher.

I don't think I've read any of the DC comics Peacemaker has appeared in, but
before he was a DC character (and, apparently, turned into a homicidal wacko)
he was a Charlton character, one of their '60's "action-heroes". As it
happens, I recently did a review of his first Charlton issue for the Silver Age
Reviews mailing list. Here'sa portion of it which should provide some more
detail on him:

THE PEACEMAKER #1 (actually listed in the indicia as "Vol. 3, No. 1"-- given
Charlton's bizarre numbering system, Ghu knows what Volumes 1 and 2 were);
March 1967; Charlton Comics; Dick Giordano, editor. The cover scene by artist
Pat Boyette depicts an obviously symbolic figure of The Peacemaker, in his
brown and white combat outfit, charging forward gun in hand.... as in the
background tanks roll, fighter jets fly, and rockets are fired. The cover
blurb reads, "COLLECTOR'S EDITION! A man who loves peace so much that he is
willing TO FIGHT FOR IT!" Another blurb at the bottom of the cover advertises,
"Also featuring THE FIGHTIN' FIVE in 'Ruler of Darkness""

The Peacemaker first appeared as a backup feature in FIGHTIN' 5 #40-, Nov.
1966. He made one more appearance as second banana to "Charlton's Blackhawks",
and then, as Dick Giordano put it in this issue's lettercol, "when the decision
was made to cease publication of the Fightin' Five we thought we'd just make a
little switch...THE PEACEMAKER in his own book with a revamped version of the
FIGHTIN' FIVE as a companion story." The decision was evidently made suddenly,
as the Peacemaker stars here in two short stories that were obviously
originally intended as F5 backups. In fact, it would be issue #3 before the
Peacemaker would star in a full length lead feature.

Who was the Peacemaker? He was Christopher Smith, an American diplomat who
ranges the world's trouble spots, averting war by negotiation and persuasion.
But when these methods fail, he dons his Peacemaker armor and makes use of a
wide variety of high-tech weaponry to put down those who scheme and plot
against world peace.
The Peacemaker is drawn by the unmistakable (though not, to me personally,
terribly appealing) hand of Pat Boyette. Later stories in the series are
credited to Joe Gill as scripter, so I'm guessing these are too, though
possibly they were scripted by Boyette himself.
The Peacemaker went on to appear in four more issues of his title before
disappearing into limbo along with the rest of the Charlton "action-heroes".
Gill and Boyette didn't get around to telling his origin until issue #4... it
seems Christopher Smith was the son of an "army officer turned statesman" and a
scientific researcher, and so inherited both combat abilities and a love for
peace from his father, and scientific/inventive abilities from his mother. He
became a diplomat while creating super-weapons as a "hobby", and one day when
he found that an evil mastermind was plotting against peace he realized that he
could use his weaponry to keep the peace in the alter ego of the Peacemaker.
Later, Peacemaker was sold along with the rest of the "action-heroes" to DC....
he appeared in a four-issue miniseries in 1988, which I haven't read, but I
gather that DC, then in its "deconstructionist" phase, turned PM into a
homicidal maniac of some sort. Peacemaker was my least favorite of the
Charlton heroes, but he deserved better than that. For that matter, all of the
"action-heroes" deserved better than what DC ended up doing with them, IMHO.
"You can't kill the truth. Well, actually, you CAN kill it...but it'll come
back to haunt you later." (Capt. John Sheridan)

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