Re: Planet Flash
grinningdemon
wrote:
>Now that Barry Allen, Wally West, Johnny Chambers, and who knows whoelse all
>have children or Grandchildren in the 21st Century, could you imagine how
>many super-speedsters could multiply by the 31st Century? I thought it
>would be an interesting plot to have the descendants of the fore-mentioned
>characters to colonize their own planet were all the inhabitates could have
>the power of speed.
Several of those descendants actually came from the future anyway.
>I would imagine that the Descendants of Superman, and Supergirl would
>eventually inhabit New Krypton in the 31st Century.
There is already a New Krypton in the 21st...and, most of the time,
they say Superman and Lois can't have kids so he probably won't have
any unless it's after she's gone...Supergirl is possible though.
Scott Eiler
> Now that Barry Allen, Wally West, Johnny Chambers, and who knows who else all
> have children or Grandchildren in the 21st Century, could you imagine how
> many super-speedsters could multiply by the 31st Century?
I'll admit, somehow so far the Speed Force seems to breed true. Don't
ask me how, since the Speed Force isn't genetic.
> I thought it
> would be an interesting plot to have the descendants of the fore-mentioned
> characters to colonize their own planet were all the inhabitants could have
> the power of speed.
In real life over 1000 years, practically everyone who has successful
children becomes everyone's ancestor anyway, at least within any
landmass where people move around and occasionally break taboos on
breeding. For us, that means (for instance) we're probably mostly
descended from King William the Conqueror of England. For the 31st
Century, that means a good fraction of the United Planets is descended
from Flashes. Now, why doesn't everyone in the UP have Flash powers,
or Superman powers, or whatever?
Kenneth M. Lin
"Wildcat" <Wil...@lions-den.org> wrote in message
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> Now that Barry Allen, Wally West, Johnny Chambers, and who knows whoelse
> all
> have children or Grandchildren in the 21st Century, could you imagine how
> would be an interesting plot to have the descendants of the fore-mentioned
> the power of speed.
>
> eventually inhabit New Krypton in the 31st Century.
There's a fatal flaw in your logic: There isn't a female Flash. If there's
one, she could reproduce at the speed of light.
Lilith
<sei...@eilertech.com> wrote:
>I'll admit, somehow so far the Speed Force seems to breed true. Don't
>ask me how, since the Speed Force isn't genetic.
However the sensitivity or ability to process it could be genetic.
--
Lilith
grinningdemon
Jesse Quick/Liberty Belle is a female speedster (and was actually the
Flash for about 15 minutes)...XS of the Legion is a female speedster
(and Barry's granddaughter)...and, until recently, there was the
former Lady Flash chick who had turned evil and just died in Flash
Rebirth.
grinningdemon
wrote:
>
>On 13-Nov-2009, grinningdemon <grinni...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> >Now that Barry Allen, Wally West, Johnny Chambers, and who knows whoelse
>> >all
>> >have children or Grandchildren in the 21st Century, could you imagine how
>> >many super-speedsters could multiply by the 31st Century? I thought it
>> >would be an interesting plot to have the descendants of the
>> >fore-mentioned
>> >characters to colonize their own planet were all the inhabitates could
>> >have
>> >the power of speed.
>>
>> Several of those descendants actually came from the future anyway.
>
>Kid Flash II came from the future, but his grandfather started in the past
>and went to the future to give birth to his twins, Donald and Dawna.
>Flash III (Wally West) gave birth to his twins in the present, and if Kid
>Flash II remains in the present, he'll be giving birth in the present as
>well. Lets not forget that Liberty Belle II is still in the present, and
>Max Mercury, Reverse-Flash, John Fox. If they all have 3 kids each, and
>their kids had 3 kids each, and so long, and so long, and so long; then
>imagine how much they would populate in the next 1,000 years.
Well, I don't know about your family, but mine doesn't follow such a
strict breeding program...plus Flash is kind of a high risk profession
so there is nothing to say that many of them wouldn't die before
having any kids...that said, if they all age the way barry's and
wally's progeny have, it's wouldn't take them 1000 years to populate
world...they're like bunnies, man.
>> >I would imagine that the Descendants of Superman, and Supergirl would
>> >eventually inhabit New Krypton in the 31st Century.
>>
>> There is already a New Krypton in the 21st...and, most of the time,
>> they say Superman and Lois can't have kids so he probably won't have
>> any unless it's after she's gone...Supergirl is possible though.
>
>I know there is already a New Krypton, that is what I was refering to! Most
>of the time they may say that Superman & Lois can't have kids, but that
>could change at any time, for the time being its just theorictical. There
>is still Supergirl, and Power Girl that could carry on the Kryptonian
>heritage, and also there is Superman-Prime as well. A Kryptonian from New
>Krypton could mate with a Earthling.
As far as we know currently, humans and Kryptonians can't breed (but,
you're right, that could change)...Power Girl and Superboy-Prime (who
isn't even in this reality currently) aren't true Kryptonians (at
least not of this reality) so they may or may not be able to breed
with Kryptonians of this reality...and, given all the other
Kryptonians that are bound to be breeding themselves, I doubt
Superman's and Supergirl's contributions to the gene-pool would be all
that substantial in the grand scheme of things.
YKW (ad hoc)
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> Power Girl that could carry on the Kryptonian
> heritage
First, she'd have to find a man she doesn't want to throw through a wall
when she finds out he's interested.
Been over thirty years now, and the world is still waiting...
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grinningdemon
<FluffyM...@foxnews.com> wrote:
>"Wildcat" <Wil...@lions-den.org> wrote in news:0145551d$0$24662$c3e8da3
>@news.astraweb.com:
>
>> Power Girl that could carry on the Kryptonian
>> heritage
>
>First, she'd have to find a man she doesn't want to throw through a wall
>when she finds out he's interested.
>
>Been over thirty years now, and the world is still waiting...
Apparently she hooked up with Hawkman during the missing year...but
all we ever got was a single panel referencing it...I keep thinking it
should come up at some point but apparently not.
YKW (ad hoc)
news:h1qtf51jhavpmtk31...@4ax.com:
Aggggh!!! You're right... brain bleach got that horrible memory out of my
head. Until now, thanks a lot... :)
grinningdemon
<FluffyM...@foxnews.com> wrote:
>grinningdemon <grinni...@austin.rr.com> wrote in
>news:h1qtf51jhavpmtk31...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:20:30 GMT, "YKW (ad hoc)"
>><FluffyM...@foxnews.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Wildcat" <Wil...@lions-den.org> wrote in
>>>news:0145551d$0$24662$c3e8da3 @news.astraweb.com:
>>>
>>>> Power Girl that could carry on the Kryptonian
>>>> heritage
>>>
>>>First, she'd have to find a man she doesn't want to throw through a
>>>wall when she finds out he's interested.
>>>
>>>Been over thirty years now, and the world is still waiting... >
>> Apparently she hooked up with Hawkman during the missing year...but
>> all we ever got was a single panel referencing it...I keep thinking it
>> should come up at some point but apparently not.
>>
>
>Aggggh!!! You're right... brain bleach got that horrible memory out of my
>head. Until now, thanks a lot... :)
Seriously though, I wonder if there was actually supposed to be some
follow up to that and Johns just ran out of time in JSA? Or maybe
that was Meltzer's contribution to the Lightning Saga and Johns never
wanted to touch it? Personally, I would have much rather seen that
play out than all the Roy/Kendra bullshit in JLA.
Paragon
"grinningdemon" <grinni...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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She made the move by kissing him, but he rejected her. So there was no
"hook up." Thank Rao! ;)
grinningdemon
wrote:
We don't know how it played out or how far it went...all we got was an
image of them kissing and the impression that it ultimately didn't
work out because he'll always be into Hawkgirl.
Paragon
Nahh......his body language in that panel, IIRC, was not very welcoming.
Don't burst my bubble--the mental image of them together is too disturbing!
Anlatt the Builder
> On 13-Nov-2009, Scott Eiler <sei...@eilertech.com> wrote:
>
> > > I thought it
> > > would be an interesting plot to have the descendants of the
> > > fore-mentioned
> > > characters to colonize their own planet were all the inhabitants could
> > > have
> > > the power of speed.
>
> > In real life over 1000 years, practically everyone who has successful
> > children becomes everyone's ancestor anyway, at least within any
> > landmass where people move around and occasionally break taboos on
> > breeding. For us, that means (for instance) we're probably mostly
> > descended from King William the Conqueror of England. For the 31st
> > Century, that means a good fraction of the United Planets is descended
> > from Flashes. Now, why doesn't everyone in the UP have Flash powers,
> > or Superman powers, or whatever?
>
> personally am descended from William The Conquerer through his son, King
> Henry I (and a few other children of his), through his daughter, Queen
> Matilda ), through her son, King Henry II, through his son, King John
> (Lackland), through his son, King Edward I (Longshanks), through his son,
> King Edward II (the gay King).
>
> True, if 90% of the Human population in the 31st Century is of Speedster
> descent, and Kryptonian blood, you would think most humans in the 31st
> Century would have the powers of Speed, Flight, X-Ray Vision,
> Super-strength, Heat vision.
And most Americans would be King of England!
We don't know what happens to Kryptonian powers as their DNA is
diluted through intermarriage with standard humans over the centuries.
Some descendents might inherit one or more powers, at Kryptonian
levels or less, and some might inherit no powers. Some traits might be
dominant and some recessive, and some might depend on the human gene
they're matched up with.
Same with the Flash - and in this case powers might depend on some
sort of trigger, like getting hit by lightning, at least in some cases.
grinningdemon
There was an Elseworlds story that dealt specifically with that issue
once upon a time...I believe it was one of the Elseworlds annuals by
John Byrne and it had a Kryptonian coming to earth much earlier and
interbreeding with humans...Kal-El was one of his descendants and had
far less power because the bloodline was diluted...of course, that
isn't in canon though.
>Same with the Flash - and in this case powers might depend on some
>sort of trigger, like getting hit by lightning, at least in some cases.
In some cases it has been genetic...Barry's descendants and Wally's
kids were all born with powers.
Lilith
<tir...@aol.com> wrote:
Anyone recall the proliferation of the meta-gene that gave Snapper
Carr and others their rather convenient powers? It seemed that a
certain percentage of humans had it and all it took was some form of
stress to make it manifest. That's probably the same situation with
the Flashes, except that Barry and Wally aren't related by blood so
the nature of their meta-gene is extremely coincidental.
--
Lilith