Should the original Earth1 and Earth2 an company return
BLACKMYSTECH RANGER
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Scott Eiler
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> What ya think?
There's already Earth-22 (as seen in JSA) if you want that good old
Earth-2 flavor. Maybe we'll get the Curt Swaniverse back next.
grinningdemon
The current multiverse has an earth 1 and 2 (or at least earth 2) that
is mostly identical to the original...there would be no need for
another set.
BLACKMYSTECH RANGER
Re: Should the original Earth1 and Earth2 an company return
Group: rec.arts.comics.dc.universe Date: Sun, Nov 15, 2009, 8:38pm From:
grinni...@austin.rr.com (grinningdemon)
I feel personally that they should return, an that include HyperTime an
The Kingdom/Kingdom Come!
grinningdemon
(BLACKMYSTECH RANGER) wrote:
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>Re: Should the original Earth1 and Earth2 an company return
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>Group: rec.arts.comics.dc.universe Date: Sun, Nov 15, 2009, 8:38pm From:
>grinni...@austin.rr.com (grinningdemon)
>On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:26:40 -0800 (PST), Scott Eiler
><sei...@eilertech.com> wrote:
>On Nov 15, 7:07 am, SUPREMERAN...@webtv.net (BLACKMYSTECH RANGER)
>wrote:
>What ya think?
>There's already Earth-22 (as seen in JSA) if you want that good old
>Earth-2 flavor. Maybe we'll get the Curt Swaniverse back next.
>The current multiverse has an earth 1 and 2 (or at least earth 2) that
>is mostly identical to the original...there would be no need for another
>set.
>
>I feel personally that they should return, an that include HyperTime an
>The Kingdom/Kingdom Come!
What would be the point? They are essentially identical to the
versions we ALREADY HAVE...Kingdom Come already has a place in the
multiverse as well...and Hypertime is just another term for the
multiverse...we already have everything you are asking for.
black...@aol.com
> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:30:54 -0600, SUPREMERAN...@webtv.net
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> (BLACKMYSTECH RANGER) wrote:
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> >Re: Should the original Earth1 and Earth2 an company return
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> >Group: rec.arts.comics.dc.universe Date: Sun, Nov 15, 2009, 8:38pm From:
> >On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:26:40 -0800 (PST), Scott Eiler
> ><sei...@eilertech.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 15, 7:07 am, SUPREMERAN...@webtv.net (BLACKMYSTECH RANGER)
> >wrote:
> >What ya think?
> >There's already Earth-22 (as seen in JSA) if you want that good old
> >Earth-2 flavor. Maybe we'll get the Curt Swaniverse back next.
> >The current multiverse has an earth 1 and 2 (or at least earth 2) that
> >is mostly identical to the original...there would be no need for another
> >set.
>
> >I feel personally that they should return, an that include HyperTime an
> >The Kingdom/Kingdom Come!
>
> What would be the point? They are essentially identical to the
> versions we ALREADY HAVE...Kingdom Come already has a place in the
> multiverse as well...and Hypertime is just another term for the
> multiverse...we already have everything you are asking for.
I want to see an Earth-2 that wasn't destroyed in the Crisis but kept
on going. Now its 20+ years later. I want to see how things developed
on that Earth. Like what became of Batman on this earth? Did Wally
ever get a chance to take over for Barry without a Crisis? Earth-2 as
if there never was a COIE. That's what I would love to see.
grinningdemon
Since you're talking about Barry, it sounds like you're talking about
Earth-1...not Earth-2...Earth-2 was Jay Garrick...and E-2 Batman was
dead well before CoIE.
Joe Sewell
so-called "reality punches" had any effect).
Okay, that's not canonical, but that's the gist of what my
never-completed "Last HyperTime Story" dealt with.
Joe Sewell
form Justice Society Infinity, with Skyman as chairman. Batman had died
before COIE, so he was out, but his daughter, the Huntress, was still
around. Earth-Two never had Barry Allen nor Wally West, and there was no
heir apparant to Jay Garrick.
plausible prose man
> On 20-Nov-2009, "blackje...@aol.com" <blackje...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > > >There's already Earth-22 (as seen in JSA) if you want that good old
> > > >Earth-2 flavor. Maybe we'll get the Curt Swaniverse back next.
> > > >The current multiverse has an earth 1 and 2 (or at least earth 2) that
> > > >is mostly identical to the original...there would be no need for
> > > >another
> > > >set.
>
> > > >I feel personally that they should return, an that include HyperTime an
> > > >The Kingdom/Kingdom Come!
>
> > > What would be the point? They are essentially identical to the
> > > versions we ALREADY HAVE...Kingdom Come already has a place in the
> > > multiverse as well...and Hypertime is just another term for the
> > > multiverse...we already have everything you are asking for.
>
> > I want to see an Earth-2 that wasn't destroyed in the Crisis but kept
> > on going.
Did you check out that JSA annual from a couple years ago? Right
around the Magog storyline, IIRC.
> Now its 20+ years later. I want to see how things developed
> > on that Earth. Like what became of Batman on this earth? Did Wally
> > ever get a chance to take over for Barry without a Crisis? Earth-2 as
> > if there never was a COIE. That's what I would love to see.
>
> I don't know how Wally could have taken over for Barry on Earth-2, because
> there never was an Earth-2 Barry Allen or an Earth-2 Wally West!
Or at least if there were they didn't become Flashes.
The
> Earth-2 Batman was killed in 1979!- Hide quoted text -
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badbad
> On 20-Nov-2009, "black...@aol.com"<black...@aol.com> wrote:
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>>>> There's already Earth-22 (as seen in JSA) if you want that good old
>>>> Earth-2 flavor. Maybe we'll get the Curt Swaniverse back next.
>>>> The current multiverse has an earth 1 and 2 (or at least earth 2) that
>>>> is mostly identical to the original...there would be no need for
>>>> another
>>>> set.
>>>
>>>> I feel personally that they should return, an that include HyperTime an
>>>> The Kingdom/Kingdom Come!
>>>
>>> What would be the point? They are essentially identical to the
>>> versions we ALREADY HAVE...Kingdom Come already has a place in the
>>> multiverse as well...and Hypertime is just another term for the
>>> multiverse...we already have everything you are asking for.
>>
>> I want to see an Earth-2 that wasn't destroyed in the Crisis but kept
>> on going. Now its 20+ years later. I want to see how things developed
>> on that Earth. Like what became of Batman on this earth? Did Wally
>> ever get a chance to take over for Barry without a Crisis? Earth-2 as
>> if there never was a COIE. That's what I would love to see.
>
> Earth-2 Batman was killed in 1979!
You know, the funny thing about it is that particular Batman has NOT
been revived, black-lantern-ized, retconned, or zombified. I am kinda
waiting for him to make an appearance...
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badbad
plausible prose man
His ghost appeared in a JSA comic during the "One Year Later" thing.
grinningdemon
Just before OYL, actually (it was the Paul Levitz arc just before the
relaunch)...and I think he showed up in a Superman/Batman issue too,
but it was mostly about Power Girl and Huntress.
badbad
I stand [stands up] corrected!
\
badbad
plausible prose man
The S on the Bat issue was a flashback, though, while the JSA was
current members of the JSA interacting with E-2 Batman's ghost. Keep
in mind, whoever it was who asked this question (badbad?) e-2 Bruce
Wayne, who had died 15ish years before the crisis, was either erased
from existence outright, or folded into earth sigma. Unlike E-2
Superman, who was allowed to live on separately from all that, and so
could (more or less) easily come back from spooky heaven with Lois and
Superboy Prime. So there is no body of e-2 Batman for a bl ring to
reanimate.
grinningdemon
There are many BLs that showed up without having left behind any body
for the ring to reanimate...and there is a new E-2 that had it's own
Batman so there is a body out there anyway...and the Superboy Prime
story from Adventure Comics showed that the BLs were not limited to
new earth.
Paragon
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What would be the point if he had? Who is he going to torment? The current
JSA doesn't know him, and PG, well, she has her cousin and Lois to torment
her.
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grinningdemon
wrote:
I didn't say there was any point to it...just that it fits within the
established story guidelines...but he could have gone and tormented
the bat-family in place of new earth's Batman (who wasn't really
dead)...i think it would have been infinitely more interesting than
the zombie bat-clone BL that briefly turned up.
plausible prose man
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> On Mon, 17 May 2010 00:43:26 -0700 (PDT), plausible prose man
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Offhand I'm not sure which ones those are, and in any case you'll
notice Pre-C E2 Robin and Pre-C E2 Huntress weren't among them,
despite having died on Earth Sigma. Or, maybe they didn't, with
everything having been reset a couple more times since then.
>..and there is a new E-2 that had it's own
> Batman so there is a body out there anyway
Right, on Post-IC E2, which isn't where Blackest Night took place. I
don't notice Post-IC E2 Green Lantern, either, who apparently is dead,
also.
>...and the Superboy Prime
> story from Adventure Comics showed that the BLs were not limited to
> new earth.
'
Yeah, I'm not at all sure what the resolution of all that was,
though.
plausible prose man
wrote:
> >>> The S on the Bat issue was a flashback, though, while the JSA was
> >>>current members of the JSA interacting with E-2 Batman's ghost. Keep
> >>>in mind, whoever it was who asked this question (badbad?) e-2 Bruce
> >>>Wayne, who had died 15ish years before the crisis, was either erased
> >>>from existence outright, or folded into earth sigma. Unlike E-2
> >>>Superman, who was allowed to live on separately from all that, and so
> >>>could (more or less) easily come back from spooky heaven with Lois and
> >>>Superboy Prime. So there is no body of e-2 Batman for a bl ring to
> >>>reanimate.
>
> >> There are many BLs that showed up without having left behind any body
> >> for the ring to reanimate...and there is a new E-2 that had it's own
> >> Batman so there is a body out there anyway...and the Superboy Prime
> >> story from Adventure Comics showed that the BLs were not limited to
> >> new earth.
>
> >What would be the point if he had? Who is he going to torment? The current
> >JSA doesn't know him, and PG, well, she has her cousin and Lois to torment
> >her.
>
> I didn't say there was any point to it...just that it fits within the
> established story guidelines..
I'm not sure it does, actually, since none of the characters shown
have some emotional connection to Post-IC E2 Batman such that he could
feed on their emotional spectrum. (not that the implications of all
that were ever clearly explained, but still...)
>.but he could have gone and tormented
> the bat-family in place of new earth's Batman (who wasn't really
> dead)...i think it would have been infinitely more interesting than
> the zombie bat-clone BL that briefly turned up.-
It would've seemeed pretty random and required a dozen or so more
issues to show us how Blackest Night was playing out across the
multiverse.
grinningdemon
Aquaman and Ted Kord, for instance, left no bodies behind...Ted was
incinerated and Aquaman turned into water and dispersed...as for E2
Huntress and Robin, I think it might have been interesting if the
whole E-2 Batclan popped up to bother the current bat-bunch, but
that's just me...I'd be particularly interested in seeing the current
Huntress confronted with her counterpart who was Batman's daughter.
>>..and there is a new E-2 that had it's own
>> Batman so there is a body out there anyway
>
> Right, on Post-IC E2, which isn't where Blackest Night took place. I
>don't notice Post-IC E2 Green Lantern, either, who apparently is dead,
>also.
Superboy Prime was on earth prime and the BLs still got to him...it's
not limited to new earth.
>>...and the Superboy Prime
>> story from Adventure Comics showed that the BLs were not limited to
>> new earth.
>'
> Yeah, I'm not at all sure what the resolution of all that was,
>though.
>
I don't think it was ever resolved...but supposedly we're still going
to be seeing some BLs so it could still come up.
grinningdemon
Blackest Night, as written, shows that the appearance of any Batman
(even a fake one) was enough to cause a major emotional response from
the other heroes (and that didn't even include any of the
bat-family)...I would think the appearance of a Batman who lived to a
relatively old age and had a real family could have had a big impact
on the current bat-family.
>>.but he could have gone and tormented
>> the bat-family in place of new earth's Batman (who wasn't really
>> dead)...i think it would have been infinitely more interesting than
>> the zombie bat-clone BL that briefly turned up.-
>
> It would've seemeed pretty random and required a dozen or so more
>issues to show us how Blackest Night was playing out across the
>multiverse.
I don't think it would, actually...the Superboy Prime story shows
that, while Blackest Night was centered on New Earth, the BLs were
more than able to cross over to other earths to reach those with a
connection to new earth...it doesn't seem like much of a stretch for
them to seek out E-2 Batman just for the affect it would have on the
bat-family...it wouldn't have even required an enitre issue to set up.