LSH: AOL Chats for 11/10/98 & 11/12/98: McCraw & Moy
Danny Miller
<gol...@intergate.bc.ca> wrote:
> Tom McCraw (LSH/L* co-plotter/colorist) and Jeff Moy (L* penciller) were
> the guests on America Online's Legion Chats for Tuesday, November 10,
> 1998 and Thursday, November 12, 1998.
> SPOILERS: Information that spoils current or upcoming issues is found
> toward the end of this report. There's no spoiler space to separate such
> info from the more general comments.
>
> :=========================:
>
> It's true that the Metal Men will make an appearance, but Tom says it's
> just a "cameo/reference shot."
They appear as random chunks of the Outpost. For example, Iron forms
Tenzil's cafeteria tables.
> We won't see any "evil" Legion, but rather a Bizarro one. The Bizarro
> Legion won't be the whole team, but just the opposites of the characters
> appearing in LSH. Tom says that's "more than enough." He said a Bizarro
> Brainy would be scary, and a Bizarro Koko would be funny.
And Bizarro Jan would be 100% normal.
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Alex Tam
the guests on America Online's Legion Chats for Tuesday, November 10, 1998
every Tuesday in the DC Comics Online area of AOL at 6:00 PM EST.
Legionnaires Chat is held every Thursday in the same area at 10:00 PM EST.
(Keyword: CHAT DC.) Regular guests include Tom McCraw, Jeff Moy, Ron Boyd
and Mike McAvennie.
Thanks to T. Troy McNemar who originated the Legion Chat Reports; so much
of the format of these writeups was derived from his hard work.
DISCLAIMER: I can't guarantee the reliability of this report. Essentially,
the Legion chats involve about twenty-five fans shouting repeated questions
to the creators. The creators are sometimes unable to answer questions
thoroughly or clarify their responses. As a result, misinterpretations may
occur on my part.
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LSH still doesn't have a permanent inker assigned to replace the departing
Ron Boyd.
Jeff had just received five pages of script to draw for L* #71.
Tom has suggested a Legion "Lost" Annual (an 80-Page Giant with 1960's
material) to the reprints editor.
Jeff doesn't think the creators have decided if L* #75 will be an
extra-sized issue.
Jeff joked that a black sheep cousin of Imra's family, named "Ffej Ardeen,"
would be a "cool character." >:)
Tom noted that sometimes Nura's visions can be confusing to her, depending
on how far off she's seeing, so her interpretations of her dreams may be
incorrect.
Brainy doesn't know what Lori's H-Dial is used for, but should be
investigating it soon.
Jeff has a theory that Monstress is always cheerful because the angrier she
gets, the weaker she gets. At her angriest, she'd look like more like an
average human. He's relayed the idea to writers Roger Stern and Carmela
Merlo, but he doesn't know if they like it.
Tom noted that M'Onel will appear a lot in the next few months of LSH.
Jeff used good reference materials to draw the caverns for L* #67.
Storm Front is supposed to be the rebooted Storm Boy. Jeff doesn't know if
Storm Front is a mutated lightning beast.
Tom wouldn't confirm the identity of the villain at the end of L* #67; he
wouldn't even say if more hints would be given in the books.
It's true that the Metal Men will make an appearance, but Tom says it's
just a "cameo/reference shot."
Dawnstar will appear in the LEGENDS OF THE DCU: CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS
Special in December.
Jeff's idea for the Legion of Super-Pets has been approved, but the editor
wanted a couple of changes.
We won't see any "evil" Legion, but rather a Bizarro one. The Bizarro
Legion won't be the whole team, but just the opposites of the characters
appearing in LSH. Tom says that's "more than enough." He said a Bizarro
Brainy would be scary, and a Bizarro Koko would be funny.
Jeff has changed his design for the upcoming villain Ebb, but not for the
female Ayre.
Kono isn't joining the WorkForce, but she'll form her own team.
-- Alex Tam
gol...@intergate.bc.ca; Nachro2 on AOL
Dan McEwen
>SPOILERS: Information that spoils current or upcoming issues is found
>toward the end of this report. There's no spoiler space to separate such
>info from the more general comments.
>Tom has suggested a Legion "Lost" Annual (an 80-Page Giant with 1960's
>material) to the reprints editor.
Would that mean stories from pre-Crisis published in a *new* LSH
comic?
>Jeff joked that a black sheep cousin of Imra's family, named "Ffej Ardeen,"
>would be a "cool character." >:)
I get the joke, but...isn't that why we have Mekt around?
>Tom noted that sometimes Nura's visions can be confusing to her, depending
>on how far off she's seeing, so her interpretations of her dreams may be
>incorrect.
Translation: her power is identical to the preboot version.
>Jeff has a theory that Monstress is always cheerful because the angrier she
>gets, the weaker she gets. At her angriest, she'd look like more like an
>average human. He's relayed the idea to writers Roger Stern and Carmela
>Merlo, but he doesn't know if they like it.
An obvious spin on the "Hulk" concept, but it could help explain why
she's so damn annoying.
>Dawnstar will appear in the LEGENDS OF THE DCU: CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS
>Special in December.
Translation: she still ain't in the reboot universe.
>Jeff's idea for the Legion of Super-Pets has been approved, but the editor
>wanted a couple of changes.
Jeka joins that team and leaves the LSH? :)
>We won't see any "evil" Legion, but rather a Bizarro one. The Bizarro
>Legion won't be the whole team, but just the opposites of the characters
>appearing in LSH. Tom says that's "more than enough." He said a Bizarro
>Brainy would be scary, and a Bizarro Koko would be funny.
And then I wonder, "Why did we need a Crisis?"
Dale Hicks
<3.0.1.32.1998111...@pop.intergate.bc.ca>...
> Tom McCraw (LSH/L* co-plotter/colorist) and Jeff Moy (L* penciller) were
> the guests on America Online's Legion Chats for Tuesday, November 10, 1998
> and Thursday, November 12, 1998.
>
> material) to the reprints editor.
That would be cool, especially if they use the right stories. I
sorely miss reprints. I used to get a lot of them, as that's how
I was exposed to the Silver Age as a youngster. The DC Super Special
that introed Hal Jordan to an unsuspecting audience was so cool.
Now we get no reprints at all.
> Jeff has a theory that Monstress is always cheerful because the angrier she
> gets, the weaker she gets.
That is pretty darned funny. Alternate take: "she's the best there
is at what she does. And what she does is pretty nice."
> Jeff used good reference materials to draw the caverns for L* #67.
Meaning he was lost in some caves for about a week. :)
> Storm Front is supposed to be the rebooted Storm Boy. Jeff doesn't know if
> Storm Front is a mutated lightning beast.
Good, then maybe it isn't Annoying Lass
--
Cranial Crusader dhi...@gibralter.com
T. Troy McNemar
>SPOILERS: Information that spoils current or upcoming issues is found
>toward the end of this report. There's no spoiler space to separate such
>info from the more general comments.
>:=========================:
>LSH still doesn't have a permanent inker assigned to replace the departing
>Ron Boyd.
I had a really cruel joke about such an assignment requiring the editorial
office to spend some time on the Legion books, but I've decided to forego it.
>Jeff had just received five pages of script to draw for L* #71.
They were chosen randomly from the full script just to make Jeff's life more
difficult.
Does Sterlo work "Marvel style"?
>Tom has suggested a Legion "Lost" Annual (an 80-Page Giant with 1960's
>material) to the reprints editor.
Assuming that it's a 1963 annual as GL's was, what should it reprint?
>Jeff doesn't think the creators have decided if L* #75 will be an
>extra-sized issue.
But Jeff's going to draw 44 pages, just in case.
>Jeff joked that a black sheep cousin of Imra's family, named "Ffej Ardeen,"
>would be a "cool character." >:)
Jeff needs to lay off the mind-altering substances. (The first person to
point out that a rogue Titanian is a mind-altering substance wins a cookie.)
>Tom noted that sometimes Nura's visions can be confusing to her, depending
>on how far off she's seeing, so her interpretations of her dreams may be
>incorrect.
What if Nura foresees herself reading a history book?
>Brainy doesn't know what Lori's H-Dial is used for, but should be
>investigating it soon.
Dial "G" for Get-Rid-Of-That-Stupid-Codename?
>Jeff has a theory that Monstress is always cheerful because the angrier she
>gets, the weaker she gets. At her angriest, she'd look like more like an
>average human. He's relayed the idea to writers Roger Stern and Carmela
>Merlo, but he doesn't know if they like it.
I'm sure that their blank stares were somewhat of a clue, though.
>Tom noted that M'Onel will appear a lot in the next few months of LSH.
If it helps you enjoy the stories, you can pretend that he's Tinya's third
body.
>Storm Front is supposed to be the rebooted Storm Boy.
I would never have guessed.
>Jeff doesn't know if Storm Front is a mutated lightning beast.
I would never have guessed.
>Tom wouldn't confirm the identity of the villain at the end of L* #67; he
>wouldn't even say if more hints would be given in the books.
It must be Dr. Mysterious Villain.
>It's true that the Metal Men will make an appearance, but Tom says it's
>just a "cameo/reference shot."
Brainy slapping himself on the forehead and saying, "Dammit! I should have
fixed Gold and got Doc Magnus' human body back!"
>Dawnstar will appear in the LEGENDS OF THE DCU: CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS
>Special in December.
There's a 4 page catfight between her and Hawkwoman.
>Jeff's idea for the Legion of Super-Pets has been approved, but the editor
>wanted a couple of changes.
He wants to call them Animal Magnitude, and give them all Imagy codenames.
>We won't see any "evil" Legion, but rather a Bizarro one. The Bizarro
>Legion won't be the whole team, but just the opposites of the characters
>appearing in LSH. Tom says that's "more than enough." He said a Bizarro
>Brainy would be scary, and a Bizarro Koko would be funny.
This could be fun.
>Jeff has changed his design for the upcoming villain Ebb, but not for the
>female Ayre.
They now look like Spice Girls. Someone needs to replace Jeff's reference
material again.
>Kono isn't joining the WorkForce, but she'll form her own team.
She's going to be in Animal Magnitude?
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-Fred Zatanastone
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LLL!
Sean Daugherty
<gol...@intergate.bc.ca>, was heard saying:
> Tom has suggested a Legion "Lost" Annual (an 80-Page Giant with 1960's
> material) to the reprints editor.
DC has a reprints editor?!? God, that must be an easy job as of late....
> Tom wouldn't confirm the identity of the villain at the end of L* #67; he
> wouldn't even say if more hints would be given in the books.
Well, ideally they'll actually get around to resolving the story, which
would probably require some revelation or two....
--
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"Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned."
- W.B. Yeats, "The Second Coming"
Duke Harrington
T. Troy McNemar wrote in message <365581ce....@news.primenet.com>...
>Previously on rec.arts.comics.dc.lsh, Alex Tam <gol...@intergate.bc.ca>
wrote:
>
>>SPOILERS: Information that spoils current or upcoming issues is found
>>toward the end of this report. There's no spoiler space to separate such
>>info from the more general comments.
>
>>:=========================:
>
>>Tom has suggested a Legion "Lost" Annual (an 80-Page Giant with 1960's
>>material) to the reprints editor.
>
>Assuming that it's a 1963 annual as GL's was, what should it reprint?
>
My idea is to do the 80 Page "lost" annual as a supplement to the Legion
Archives series, printing the 5-6 most major Legion appearances up to the
end of the Adventure series not printed in the Archives.
Any nominees.
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Tom Galloway
Duke Harrington <du...@exploremaine.com> wrote:
>My idea is to do the 80 Page "lost" annual as a supplement to the Legion
>Archives series, printing the 5-6 most major Legion appearances up to the
>end of the Adventure series not printed in the Archives.
Bad idea. With maybe one or two minor exceptions, anything not being
printed in the Archives is an extremely minor Legion appearance, usually
countable on your fingers in terms of number of panels with an identifiable
Legionnaire (carefully phrased to rule out the stories with Cham or Brainy
appearing for much of the story as a disguised Clark or Superman). To
give you an idea, the most significant such story in my opinion is one
that let me stump Mark Waid on a trivia question...and it was in a Superman
story to boot!
That being Superman #212. Mordru turns out to be the real villain, but
never really appears save as a voice. Brainy from the Adult Legion is
disguised as Superman for most of the issue, but this is only revealed
around the last page. Its main significance is stating for the first time
that the White Witch would some day join the Legion. And this is what
I'd consider the most significant Legion appearance not likely to be in
the Archives by a fair margin.
Personally, I'm not convinced a 60s Legion annual is that good an idea.
Are there really enough anal-retentive Legion fans such that they'd buy
the Annual even though the stories are available in the Archives? Keep
in mind that the Archives readership is around 5K, a fair chunk of the
possible audience for this. I'd go for a 70s and 80s reprint annual if
such was done.
tyg t...@netcom.com
Sidne G. Ward
>On 16 Nov 1998 02:15:09 GMT, Alex Tam <gol...@intergate.bc.ca> wrote:
>>SPOILERS: Information that spoils current or upcoming issues is found
>>toward the end of this report. There's no spoiler space to separate such
>>info from the more general comments.
>>Tom has suggested a Legion "Lost" Annual (an 80-Page Giant with 1960's
>>material) to the reprints editor.
>Would that mean stories from pre-Crisis published in a *new* LSH
>comic?
I believe that's what he meant. Since the LSH stuff is all being
reprinted in the Archives, though, I'd guess we're not too likely to see
one.
>>Jeff joked that a black sheep cousin of Imra's family, named "Ffej Ardeen,"
>>would be a "cool character." >:)
>I get the joke, but...isn't that why we have Mekt around?
Our idea (during the chat) was for him to be a gambler and for the Legion
to run into him while hunting through casinos for Tinya III.
Sidne Gail Ward
sw...@primenet.com
Sidne G. Ward
>Previously on rec.arts.comics.dc.lsh, Alex Tam <gol...@intergate.bc.ca> wrote:
>>Jeff had just received five pages of script to draw for L* #71.
>They were chosen randomly from the full script just to make Jeff's life more
>difficult.
>Does Sterlo work "Marvel style"?
Yes.
Sidne Gail Ward
sw...@primenet.com
Danny Sichel
>>Tom has suggested a Legion "Lost" Annual (an 80-Page Giant with 1960's
>>material) to the reprints editor.
The first Mordru story, obviously.
T. Troy McNemar
wrote:
>T. Troy McNemar wrote:
Can we throw in the first Mantis Morlo story, too?
JohannaLD
>DC has a reprints editor?!? God, that must be an easy job as of late....
Actually, it's a collected editions editor. That department handles
the TPBs and Archives, among other things.
Johanna
KrytenToo
In article <365581ce....@news.primenet.com>, Tro...@primenet.com (T.
Troy McNemar) writes:
Spoiler!
>>Jeff doesn't know if Storm Front is a mutated lightning beast.
>
>I would never have guessed.
Aw, c'mon, doesn't he look like a lightning beast, with those horns and that
snout? OK, I admit, I'm the one who asked that particular question.
>>Tom wouldn't confirm the identity of the villain at the end of L* #67; he
>>wouldn't even say if more hints would be given in the books.
>
>It must be Dr. Mysterious Villain.
I thought his first name was Arthur?
JB
"You know, there are many people in the country today who, through no fault of
their own, are sane... It is up to people like you and me who are out of our
tiny little minds to try and help these people overcome their sanity.'"- Rev.
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