LSH: AOL Chats for 4/13/99 & 4/15/99: McCraw, Moy & McAvennie
Alex Tam
the guests on America Online's Legion Chats for Tuesday, April 13, 1999 and
Thursday, April 15, 1999. Mike McAvennie (LSH/L* editor) also guested on
Tuesday's chat. Legion of Super-Heroes Chat takes place every Tuesday in
the DC Comics Online area of AOL at 6:00 PM EST. Legionnaires Chat is held
every Thursday in the same area at 10:00 PM EST. (Keyword: CHAT DC.)
Regular guests include Tom McCraw, Jeff Moy, Ron Boyd and Mike McAvennie.
DISCLAIMER: I can't guarantee the reliability of this report. Essentially,
the Legion chats involve about fifteen fans shouting repeated questions to
the creators. The creators are sometimes unable to answer questions
thoroughly or clarify their responses. As a result, misinterpretations may
occur on my part.
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Mike said, "the books' sales weren't the reasons behind the changes." He
implied that the Legion titles are in no danger of cancellation.
Jeff is hoping to draw a STAR TREK comic for Wildstorm, and has to pass
some tests at drawing likenesses before he gets the job.
Tom said it was fun to color over ex-LSH penciller Lee Moder again for
STARS AND S.T.R.I.P.E. But Tom doubts that he'll color TITANS/LSH; he
expects that writer/penciller Dan Jurgens will request Greg Wright. While
he was the regular colorist for DC's Archive editions, Tom doesn't know if
that will continue, now that collections editor Jim Spivey has left DC.
Jeff thinks that we won't see the Time Trapper and Andromeda before the
current creators are off the book. Tom isn't sure about Andromeda.
Tom and Roger Stern's ideas for a Legion of Super-Villains have been
"scrapped." Tom said that the LSV might have included Mekt Ranzz, Nara
Minsork, Micro, and Ze Tongue and his gang.
Mike said that he was thinking about running a reader election for Legion
leader soon, but we'll have to wait and see if that happens when the new
creative teams come on board.
While the current creators have discussed ideas for the Empress of Venegar,
Mike noted that they didn't come up with anything solid yet. He emphasized
that he was talking only about the Empress, and not the Emerald Eye.
No weddings or divorces are in the current creators' plans, though Saturn
Girl and Live Wire will soon work out the problems in their relationship.
Tom and L* co-writer Roger Stern realized that they had forgotten
Blast-Off's original real name in the "Fallen Heroes" profile in LSH SECRET
FILES #2. Stern has an idea of how to reconcile Blast-Off's original name,
Jahr Ningle, with the newly revealed "Leroy Drake." And L* #76 will show
how Drake will relate to the late Atom'X, aka Randall Burroughs.
-- Alex Tam
gol...@intergate.bc.ca; Nachro2 on AOL
pyth...@my-dejanews.com
Alex Tam <gol...@intergate.bc.ca> wrote:
Spoiled, etc. :-)
> Tom and Roger Stern's ideas for a Legion of Super-Villains have been
> "scrapped." Tom said that the LSV might have included Mekt Ranzz, Nara
> Minsork, Micro, and Ze Tongue and his gang.
I don't necessarily think that Nara belongs in with the likes of Mekt. She's
not a villain, although there's little doubt she's a criminal. :-)
> Mike said that he was thinking about running a reader election for Legion
> leader soon, but we'll have to wait and see if that happens when the new
> creative teams come on board.
Well, he *is* the editor, isn't he? While they're settling into the writing
of the book, we can just blithely yank their chains a little by telling them
which character's going to be in charge of the team. ;-) Hey, it'd give us
some security in knowing that if we can vote for 'em, they're not going to
die, no? ;-D
> While the current creators have discussed ideas for the Empress of Venegar,
> Mike noted that they didn't come up with anything solid yet. He emphasized
> that he was talking only about the Empress, and not the Emerald Eye.
The Emerald Eye is booked up through the end of next year. Turning shy girls
into sanctimonious holier-than-thous pays much more than Evil ever could. ;-D
> No weddings or divorces are in the current creators' plans,
:-( There is *no* justice in the LSH, I see. Why Jo & Tinya should *not* be
married: 1) Marriage certificate before the wedding? Hellooooooo? Blood test?
2) "Well, I'm married to Mr. X here because I went back in time to 999 AD and
some guy back then married me. Really." It wouldn't work for *me*, it's not
going to work for *them*. :-( 3) Ahem, she's *dead* when this happens. Living
people can't marry dead people. I'm pretty sure that *is* a law. If not, then
I want to marry Jesus Christ. :-D
> though Saturn
> Girl and Live Wire will soon work out the problems in their relationship.
Like the fact they seem to have one only because they told people so and went
to the beach and Titan together? Uh-huh. :-D
> Tom and L* co-writer Roger Stern realized that they had forgotten
> Blast-Off's original real name in the "Fallen Heroes" profile in LSH SECRET
> FILES #2.
To be fair here, I can't blame them for this. :-)
> Stern has an idea of how to reconcile Blast-Off's original name,
> Jahr Ningle, with the newly revealed "Leroy Drake."
I liked Jahr Ningle, although it sounds like something Elves would use to
bottle Santa. :-) Still, did anyone else have the tune of Bad, Bad Leroy
Brown in their head all day after they'd read this? :-1
> And L* #76 will show
> how Drake will relate to the late Atom'X, aka Randall Burroughs.
Them both being dead and all, I figure they get along pretty darn well
together. Perhaps someone will want to marry them, now that they're single
*and* dead. :-)
H.! Ho ho ho, Jaaaaaahr Nin-gle (To the Green Giant music, naturally ;-)
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Dottie Marchand
pyth...@my-dejanews.com wrote
>I liked Jahr Ningle, although it sounds like something Elves would use to
>bottle Santa. :-) Still, did anyone else have the tune of Bad, Bad Leroy
>Brown in their head all day after they'd read this? :-1
, or Start Your Own
No, but now that you metioned I probably will. Arrgh
JJL
Randall Burroughs?
Hasn't anyone noticed Drake Burroughs (aka Wildfire) here??? Or did I miss
the discussion?
Nick Eden
>> Mike said that he was thinking about running a reader election for Legion
>> leader soon, but we'll have to wait and see if that happens when the new
>> creative teams come on board.
>
>Well, he *is* the editor, isn't he? While they're settling into the writing
>of the book, we can just blithely yank their chains a little by telling them
>which character's going to be in charge of the team. ;-) Hey, it'd give us
>some security in knowing that if we can vote for 'em, they're not going to
>die, no? ;-D
Isn't our voting for the 'wrong' candidate probably the quickest way
of getting that character killed so that the one Mike prefers as
leader gets the job.
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Dale Hicks
> Leroy Drake?
>
> Randall Burroughs?
>
> Hasn't anyone noticed Drake Burroughs (aka Wildfire) here??? Or did I miss
> the discussion?
You missed it. Apparently Leroy Randall was also the name of the
Wildfire clone created by TMK in V4.
--
Cranial Crusader dhi...@gibralter.net
murrfox
Dale Hicks wrote:
> JJL <lane...@my-dejanews.com> wrote in article <7fl2cj$eo3$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> > Leroy Drake?
> >
> > Randall Burroughs?
> >
> > Hasn't anyone noticed Drake Burroughs (aka Wildfire) here??? Or did I miss
> > the discussion?
>
> You missed it. Apparently Leroy Randall was also the name of the
> Wildfire clone created by TMK in V4.
No it wasn't. He might have been named Randall Burroughs though. And he was a clone
of Drake Burrough's (wildfire) until-that-point-never-before-seen-brother (as opposed
to being Wildfire's clone).
>
>
> --
> Cranial Crusader dhi...@gibralter.net
Reaus
>
> >No it wasn't. He might have been named Randall Burroughs though. And he was
> >a clone
> >of Drake Burrough's (wildfire) until-that-point-never-before-seen-brother (as
> >opposed
> >to being Wildfire's clone).
>
> Dominion and gained powers just like his brother.
Boy, that V4 stuff was just crap wasn't it?
=)
~~===~~
tim
aka:bl...@aol.com
Ben Weiss
> Living
> people can't marry dead people. I'm pretty sure that *is* a law. If not, then
> I want to marry Jesus Christ. :-D
I thought you had to be a nun to do that...
Ben
eleme...@lsh.org
Moon Cry9
Michael R. Grabois ... change $ to s
>Dale Hicks wrote:
>
>> JJL <lane...@my-dejanews.com> wrote in article <7fl2cj$eo3$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>> > Leroy Drake?
>> >
>> > Randall Burroughs?
>> >
>> > Hasn't anyone noticed Drake Burroughs (aka Wildfire) here??? Or did I miss
>> > the discussion?
>>
>> You missed it. Apparently Leroy Randall was also the name of the
>> Wildfire clone created by TMK in V4.
>
>No it wasn't. He might have been named Randall Burroughs though. And he was a clone
>of Drake Burrough's (wildfire) until-that-point-never-before-seen-brother (as opposed
>to being Wildfire's clone).
Drake's never-before-seen brother was Squire Burroughs.
"Guess who's back!
WRONG!"
Grrr....
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Houston, TX | $pac...@wt.net (change $ to "s")
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Dale Hicks
>
> Dale Hicks wrote:
>
> > You missed it. Apparently Leroy Randall was also the name of the
> > Wildfire clone created by TMK in V4.
>
> No it wasn't. He might have been named Randall Burroughs though. And he was a clone
> of Drake Burrough's (wildfire) until-that-point-never-before-seen-brother (as opposed
> to being Wildfire's clone).
Oops. Oh well, my TMK knowledge is low, I was trying to remember
a recent post here. I assume that the guy we were talking about
is the one that was in the "Look Who's Back..." issue, which might
have been after Keith left.
When I said clone, I meant in terms of mimicing the original, not
an actual clone. It's kinduv freaky that he turned out to be a
real clone. :)
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pyth...@my-dejanews.com
Ben Weiss <benw...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> pyth...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> > Living
> > people can't marry dead people. I'm pretty sure that *is* a law. If not,
> > then I want to marry Jesus Christ. :-D
>
> I thought you had to be a nun to do that...
LOL! I was wondering if anyone would notice that! ;-D Actually, nuns don't
*actually* do that, Ben, although Trace finds it amusing. ;-D I was thinking
more along the lines of cashing in on the *merchandising* thing, as the newly
married *widow*! ;-D And I couldn't think of another dead single guy who was
making money, offhand. ;-) Besides, who's got more money than Christ? }-> RJ
Brande? ;-D
Sigh, now if only any one of my Tinya points would actually have an effect on
the creative team.... I want the old Jo *and* Tinya back. They were both
interesting people, not walking 'kill-me' targets. Especially Tinya, who's
practically got Body # 3 in cold storage.... :-1
H.!
murrfox
Moon Cry9 wrote:
> >No it wasn't. He might have been named Randall Burroughs though. And he was
> >a clone
> >of Drake Burrough's (wildfire) until-that-point-never-before-seen-brother (as
> >opposed
> >to being Wildfire's clone).
>
> Nope, Squire Burroughs. Drake's long lost brother experimented on by the
> Dominion and gained powers just like his brother.
Oh that's right! I quite liked the name Squire, even though I didn't like
finding out that Wildfire had a brother.
murrfox
> Murrat wrote:
> > >No it wasn't. He might have been named Randall Burroughs though. And he was
> > >a clone
> > >of Drake Burrough's (wildfire) until-that-point-never-before-seen-brother (as
> > >opposed
> > >to being Wildfire's clone).
> >
> > Moon Cry9 wrote: Nope, Squire Burroughs. Drake's long lost brother
> experimented on by the
> > Dominion and gained powers just like his brother.
>
>
> Reaus wrote:
> Boy, that V4 stuff was just crap wasn't it?
Nope. Not even close. I quite enjoyed most of it, even if there were occasional
plot elements that popped up that I didn't like. In fact, I'd say that both the
current reboot and V4 enjoyed a strong start, but V4 continued to tell stories that
interested or angered me, wheras the reboot quickly started telling stories which
made me say "Who cares?" And I'd rather have interest and anger than apathy.
Reaus
> > Reaus wrote:
>
> > Boy, that V4 stuff was just crap wasn't it?
>
> Nope. Not even close. I quite enjoyed most of it, even if there were occasional
> plot elements that popped up that I didn't like. In fact, I'd say that both the
> current reboot and V4 enjoyed a strong start, but V4 continued to tell stories that
> interested or angered me, wheras the reboot quickly started telling stories which
> made me say "Who cares?" And I'd rather have interest and anger than apathy.
Actually, I was half joking... that's what the little smiley was for.
V4 to me really does suck on a month to month basis, but if you have the
whole run in front of you and can read it straight through, it's not all
that bad.
It did have at least 3 redeeming qualities though:
1) as you say, at least it didn't make you say "who cares" As badly as
I disliked it while it was going on, I never once considered dropping
the title. I can't say that about the reboot.
2) at least it was about the real Legion, the one i grew up with.
3) there was no Sneckie
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tim
aka:bl...@aol.com
Danny Miller
wrote:
> In article <371EA312...@earthlink.net>, Ben Weiss
> <benw...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > pyth...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> >
> > > Living people can't marry dead people. I'm pretty sure that *is* a
> > > law.
Maybe not in a comic-book universe. So many resurrections must happen that
if everyone can see a "dead" person on a regular basis, then they must be
alive. :)
> > > If not, then I want to marry Jesus Christ. :-D
> >
> > I thought you had to be a nun to do that...
>
> LOL! I was wondering if anyone would notice that! ;-D Actually, nuns
> don't *actually* do that, Ben, although Trace finds it amusing. ;-D I was
> thinking more along the lines of cashing in on the *merchandising* thing,
> as the newly married *widow*! ;-D And I couldn't think of another dead
> single guy who was making money, offhand. ;-) Besides, who's got more
> money than Christ? }-> RJ Brande? ;-D
Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of Elvis. He was unmarried
when he died, had an enormous, devoted following, and has a merchandising
empire that few could rival. And the disturbing part is that I could see
Jo being a near-clone of Elvis in twenty or so years. Let's face it, the
Legion is so popular that it'll go to his head. I just wonder whether
Tinya will like him when he's 400 pounds, drug-infested, and dressed in
gold-sequinned jumpsuits when he fights supervillains. Uh-*huh*! :)
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Coast to Coast"
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dami...@bu.edu
Moon Cry9
>
>> >No it wasn't. He might have been named Randall Burroughs though. And he
>was
>> >a clone
>> >of Drake Burrough's (wildfire) until-that-point-never-before-seen-brother
>(as
>> >opposed
>> >to being Wildfire's clone).
>>
>> Dominion and gained powers just like his brother.
>
>finding out that Wildfire had a brother.
That never really bothered me, I can't remember if we ever actually saw any of
Drake's family before Squire. What bothered me about it was Squire blasts out
of suit and disappears, never te be heard about again. So then we have both
Burroughs brothers being disembodied energy beings running around the universe.
I always wondered (even though I shouldn't, wondering about things that will
never be resolved for me just gives me a headache) if the revived Wildfire was
Squire and not Drake. I know, I know Squire was under dominion control and
all, but it just stuck in my mind. Of course I'm more than happy to believe
that it was really Wildfire during those last scenes of Preboot, they still
choke me up.
"For the first time in a long time I feel complete",
"You mean all that could have been mine?"
"Could have, would have, should have",
(All paraphrased)
Thanks for indulging me.