LSH: AOL Chat for 11/05/98: McCraw & Moy
Alex Tam
the guests on America Online's Legionnaires Chat for Thursday, November 5,
1998. Legion of Super-Heroes Chat takes place every Tuesday in the DC
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KC Carlson isn't currently scheduled for any more writing fill-ins.
Following two guest-pencilled issues, next week's L* #67 sees the return of
Jeff's art, and features the first of Chris Sprouse's covers.
Tom said that the Legion gets the spotlight in COMIC BUYER'S GUIDE #1306.
According to Tom, there are "no signs of Universo showing up yet."
For at least six months, the Legion won't get any new members.
Jeff might want to sneak Buffy the Vampire Slayer into a crowd scene, but
noted it wouldn't be a good idea if Dark Horse (publisher of the BUFFY
comic adaptation) caught him.
Alex Ross is painting, or has painted, the Grell-era Legion for something,
but Jeff doesn't what this project is for; maybe it's a lithograph or even
just for fun.
Tom thought that Imra was the best-handled Legionnaire in the SUPERMAN
episode "New Kids in Town." Tom, Jeff, and others agree that the black
Legionnaire shown was the cartoon's version of Kid Quantum I.
Tinya and Jo are concerned about the whereabouts of Tinya's third body;
we'll see them and others searching for the other Tinya.
Laurel might be seen again soon.
Monstress will soon receive something new.
The Legion is split for now, but some members will be seen in the "other"
book. The writers split the team to make it easier to focus on each
group's characters, and Imra's reason for the division is so the team would
respond faster to a distant emergency, than if everyone else was on Earth.
The books will still be linked. L* #67 shows Garth and Imra talking, with
Garth unhappy about his assignment.
Tom also said L* #67 features a "new/old character" now called Storm Front.
Other highlights over the next few months include "magic wars and bizzare
characters."
-- Alex Tam
gol...@intergate.bc.ca; Nachro2 on AOL
Danny Sichel
> Tinya and Jo are concerned about the whereabouts of Tinya's third body;
> we'll see them and others searching for the other Tinya.
Wasn't that Charcoal-Briquette Girl?
T. Troy McNemar
>SPOILERS: Information that spoils current or upcoming issues is found
>toward the end of this report. There's no spoiler space to separate such
>info from the more general comments.
>:=========================:
>KC Carlson isn't currently scheduled for any more writing fill-ins.
But he's penciling and inking some upcoming issues.
>Following two guest-pencilled issues, next week's L* #67 sees the return of
>Jeff's art, and features the first of Chris Sprouse's covers.
I miss Jeff's art and will miss Jeff's covers. The Sprouse covers that I've
seen have not impressed me.
>Tom said that the Legion gets the spotlight in COMIC BUYER'S GUIDE #1306.
When does this go on sale?
>According to Tom, there are "no signs of Universo showing up yet."
What? Was Universo going to hire Validus to stand out front of LSH HQ with a
sandwich board?
>For at least six months, the Legion won't get any new members.
But all the current Legionnaires are going to learn that they're 1/2 Carggites
and can triplicate.
>Jeff might want to sneak Buffy the Vampire Slayer into a crowd scene, but
>noted it wouldn't be a good idea if Dark Horse (publisher of the BUFFY
>comic adaptation) caught him.
Ah, the Legion could kick Buffy's butt.
>Alex Ross is painting, or has painted, the Grell-era Legion for something,
>but Jeff doesn't what this project is for; maybe it's a lithograph or even
>just for fun.
Wow! Alex, too? I also paint the Grell-era Legion for fun! Have him call me
if he wants any tips.
>Tom thought that Imra was the best-handled Legionnaire in the SUPERMAN
>episode "New Kids in Town."
Wasn't much of a contest, really.
>Tom, Jeff, and others agree that the black
>Legionnaire shown was the cartoon's version of Kid Quantum I.
When does he get his own series?
>Tinya and Jo are concerned about the whereabouts of Tinya's third body;
>we'll see them and others searching for the other Tinya.
Yeah. Jo and Tinya will look in bed; then in the refrigerator; then in bed
again; then in the break room; then behind the couch in the break room; then
on a nice drive up to the country; then in bed at a bed-and-breakfast; then in
an Atlantic City casino; then in bed in an Atlantic City hotel; then on a
flight to Jamaica; then in the washroom on a flight to Jamaica; then in
Jamaica; then on the beach in Jamaica; then . . . .
>Laurel might be seen again soon.
But this time, she'll be a priest. Damned pro-masc!
>Monstress will soon receive something new.
A pre-paid one-way bus ticket to Xanthu?
>The Legion is split for now, but some members will be seen in the "other"
>book.
M'On should commute.
>The writers split the team to make it easier to focus on each
>group's characters,
Did everyone notice that Peyer got the characters that have no running plots
to speak of? The Sterlo characters are all the ones that we've been
complaining about.
>and Imra's reason for the division is so the team would
>respond faster to a distant emergency, than if everyone else was on Earth.
Space is big. Really big.
>The books will still be linked. L* #67 shows Garth and Imra talking, with
>Garth unhappy about his assignment.
Every month, on the anniversary of their first date, Imra will send Garth a
gift certificate to the Nine Planets Ice Cream Shoppe.
>Tom also said L* #67 features a "new/old character" now called Storm Front.
With a name like that, he probably is really strong and tough.
> Other highlights over the next few months include "magic wars and bizzare
>characters."
"Magic Wars" and "highlights" don't belong in the same sentence on a Legion
newsgroup.
--
T. Troy McNemar Tro...@primenet.com
"Ev'ew tog eht taeb!"
-The Zo-Gos
Favorite Comic of the Week: YOUNG JUSTICE #4
Runner-up: PREACHER #45
LLL!
wo...@interlog.com
McNemar) wrote:
>Previously on rec.arts.comics.dc.lsh, Alex Tam <gol...@intergate.bc.ca> wrote:
>>Laurel might be seen again soon.
>But this time, she'll be a priest. Damned pro-masc!
>>Monstress will soon receive something new.
Maybe SHE's the one who gets the pro-masc!
Yeechang Lee
> > Tinya and Jo are concerned about the whereabouts of Tinya's third body;
> > we'll see them and others searching for the other Tinya.
>
No. Think "Lightly-toasted Lass."
Yeechang "Or was it 'Well-done Damsel?'" Lee
--
<URL:http://www.columbia.edu/~ylee/>
Reaus
>
> Alex Tam wrote:
>
> > Tinya and Jo are concerned about the whereabouts of Tinya's third body;
> > we'll see them and others searching for the other Tinya.
>
> Wasn't that Charcoal-Briquette Girl?
This is my biggest problem with Tinya being back, especially since she
is supposedly still able to split into two girls.
One body was exactly what Danny describes it as.... a
charcoal-briquette! It's one thing if her spirit survived, by being
linked to Jo (or something like that), but her body was destroyed!! At
best there should be two personalities inhabiting Phase's body now, and
unable to duplicate!
Plus there should be some sort of power struggle over who is in control
of that body (and Jo doesn't count!).
But then I guess that would require some thought and some story telling,
so it'll obviously never happen!
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Tim
aka: Bl...@aol.com
Sidne G. Ward
>Alex Tam wrote:
>
>> Tinya and Jo are concerned about the whereabouts of Tinya's third body;
>> we'll see them and others searching for the other Tinya.
>Wasn't that Charcoal-Briquette Girl?
No. Tinya III is Dabo-Dealing Damsel.
Although if they'd chosen to make Tinya III Charcoal-Briquette Girl back
when they first introduced the idea that Tinya was half-Carggite, it would
have made more sense than the given-to-the-Luck-Lords-to-pay-off-a-debt
idea.
Sidne Gail Ward
sw...@primenet.com
JL Franke
Possible spoilers
>
> For at least six months, the Legion won't get any new members.
It's about time.
> Alex Ross is painting, or has painted, the Grell-era Legion for something,
> but Jeff doesn't what this project is for; maybe it's a lithograph or even
> just for fun.
Jeff doesn't what? Know? Or say? Depending on what the verb is, my
imagination takes this in different directions.
> Tinya and Jo are concerned about the whereabouts of Tinya's third body;
> we'll see them and others searching for the other Tinya.
Can someone clarify my memory so that I don't have to search my
(highly unorganized) boxes right now: Tinya III was also tossed
in time, after her stint with the Luck Lords, wasn't she?
> Laurel might be seen again soon.
Cool. Further development on already existing characters would be a
nice move for the series.
> Monstress will soon receive something new.
Please let it be a reassignment to a distant outpost.
> The Legion is split for now, but some members will be seen in the "other"
> book. The writers split the team to make it easier to focus on each
> group's characters, and Imra's reason for the division is so the team would
> respond faster to a distant emergency, than if everyone else was on Earth.
> The books will still be linked. L* #67 shows Garth and Imra talking, with
> Garth unhappy about his assignment.
Yeah, something tells me that she has some explaining to do.
> Tom also said L* #67 features a "new/old character" now called Storm Front.
Hm. A Legion character with weather powers, maybe? I'm drawing a blank offhand.
> Other highlights over the next few months include "magic wars and bizzare
> characters."
Hm^2. Considering our past experiences with the Legion and magic
wars, this makes me more than a little nervous.
--
Jerry L. Franke frank...@cyberenet.net
http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~franke To make contact, remove the '+cyb'
"I knew I should have read that book by that wheelchair guy." -- Homer Simpson
dave leon
>
>>For at least six months, the Legion won't get any new members.
>
Carggites
>and can triplicate.
>
And yet none of them can find their third body.
dave leon
>
>>Monstress will soon receive something new.
>
Reaus
>
> I agree about the two personalities. However, I'm pretty sure the
> writers have said (though probably at a chat or something) that Tinya
> cannot split.
Are you sure? I hope that's the case, but for some reason I thought they
said just the opposite, I just don't remember. Anyone else know for sure
the status of her duplicating ability?
------=========
Tim
aka: Bl...@aol.com
Reaus
>
> > Tom also said L* #67 features a "new/old character" now called Storm Front.
>
> Hm. A Legion character with weather powers, maybe? I'm drawing a blank offhand.
>
Storm Boy??
He was a rejected applicant in the pre-boot. He had a weather
controlling device hidden under his shirt. Cosmic Boy noticed and
called him on it!
> > Other highlights over the next few months include "magic wars and bizzare
> > characters."
>
> Hm^2. Considering our past experiences with the Legion and magic
> wars, this makes me more than a little nervous.
>
Wasn't that one once referred to as the only one they lost?
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Tim
aka: Bl...@aol.com
Ben Weiss
Sidne G. Ward
>Alex Tam (gol...@intergate.bc.ca) wrote:
>Possible spoilers
>> Alex Ross is painting, or has painted, the Grell-era Legion for something,
>> but Jeff doesn't what this project is for; maybe it's a lithograph or even
>> just for fun.
>Jeff doesn't what? Know? Or say? Depending on what the verb is, my
>imagination takes this in different directions.
My impression is that Jeff doesn't *know* why Ross was painting the Grell
era Legion.
>> Tom also said L* #67 features a "new/old character" now called Storm Front.
>Hm. A Legion character with weather powers, maybe? I'm drawing a blank offhand.
Maybe the post-Zero Hour version of Storm Boy?
Sidne Gail Ward
sw...@primenet.com
Sidne G. Ward
>Alex Tam (gol...@intergate.bc.ca) wrote:
>Possible spoilers
>> Alex Ross is painting, or has painted, the Grell-era Legion for something,
>> but Jeff doesn't what this project is for; maybe it's a lithograph or even
>> just for fun.
>Jeff doesn't what? Know? Or say? Depending on what the verb is, my
>imagination takes this in different directions.
My impression is that Jeff doesn't *know* why Ross is painting the
Grell-era Legion.
>> Tom also said L* #67 features a "new/old character" now called Storm Front.
>Hm. A Legion character with weather powers, maybe? I'm drawing a blank offhand.
Maybe a post-Zero Hour version of Storm Boy?
Sidne Gail Ward
sw...@primenet.com
Dan McEwen
>SPOILERS: Information that spoils current or upcoming issues is found
>toward the end of this report. There's no spoiler space to separate such
>info from the more general comments.
>For at least six months, the Legion won't get any new members.
I think six *years* would be more appropriate. Unless several members
are resigning en masse.
>Tinya and Jo are concerned about the whereabouts of Tinya's third body;
>we'll see them and others searching for the other Tinya.
Within the next year? Wow. Almost impressive.
>Laurel might be seen again soon.
But we've got Thunder. I mean, isn't that why she's here? So we
don't *have* to see Laurel?
>Tom also said L* #67 features a "new/old character" now called Storm Front.
> Other highlights over the next few months include "magic wars and bizzare
>characters."
Storm Boy?
Dan McEwen
wrote:
>Alex Tam wrote:
>
>> Tinya and Jo are concerned about the whereabouts of Tinya's third body;
>> we'll see them and others searching for the other Tinya.
>
>Wasn't that Charcoal-Briquette Girl?
No. Charcoal-Briquette Girl was Tinya #1, the Legion member; Tinya #2
was Phase; Tinya #3 has never appeared in the present.
Dan McEwen
>Danny Sichel wrote:
>>
>> Alex Tam wrote:
>>
>> > Tinya and Jo are concerned about the whereabouts of Tinya's third body;
>> > we'll see them and others searching for the other Tinya.
>>
>> Wasn't that Charcoal-Briquette Girl?
>
>This is my biggest problem with Tinya being back, especially since she
>is supposedly still able to split into two girls.
I don't think this is true. Tinya only gained her solidity *after*
she merged with Phase. If Tinya were to split, she'd be a ghost and a
girl. Once Tinya #3 joins in, then, theoretically, she'll be able to
split into two living girls.
>One body was exactly what Danny describes it as.... a
>charcoal-briquette! It's one thing if her spirit survived, by being
>linked to Jo (or something like that), but her body was destroyed!! At
>best there should be two personalities inhabiting Phase's body now, and
>unable to duplicate!
I agree about the two personalities. However, I'm pretty sure the
writers have said (though probably at a chat or something) that Tinya
cannot split.
>Plus there should be some sort of power struggle over who is in control
>of that body (and Jo doesn't count!).
I would think Phase. It's her body, and her life has been ignored.
Tom Galloway
>Alex Ross is painting, or has painted, the Grell-era Legion for something,
>but Jeff doesn't what this project is for; maybe it's a lithograph or even
>just for fun.
My first reaction to this; Sidne and other anal-retentive Legion fans must
be checking their bank accounts if it's going to be a lithograph (Ross'
JSA one went for $400/copy).
My second reaction to this; Ross often paints from life models. Anyone
know if Sidra (Night Girl) Roberts and Sidne (pink bikini Saturn Girl! Yes!)
Ward have been sighted in Chicago? :-)
tyg t...@netcom.com
LyleMasaki
Previosly on racd-lsh, Tro...@primenet.com (T. Troy McNemar) wrote....
>Previously on rec.arts.comics.dc.lsh, Alex Tam <gol...@intergate.bc.ca>
>wrote:
>
>>SPOILERS: Information that spoils current or upcoming issues is found
>>toward the end of this report. There's no spoiler space to separate such
>>info from the more general comments.
>
>>:=========================:
>
>>Following two guest-pencilled issues, next week's L* #67 sees the return of
>>Jeff's art, and features the first of Chris Sprouse's covers.
>
>I miss Jeff's art and will miss Jeff's covers. The Sprouse covers that I've
>seen have not impressed me.
Too bad. I had some apprehension over the change when it was first announced
but decided to quietly wait until we got to see some of Sprouse's covers.
I've gotta say I'm gonna miss Jeff's covers. Of all my favorite covers in the
past year, only one wasn't his.
>
>>For at least six months, the Legion won't get any new members.
>
>But all the current Legionnaires are going to learn that they're 1/2
>Carggites and can triplicate.
>
With multiple personalities too...
>
>>Monstress will soon receive something new.
>
>A pre-paid one-way bus ticket to Xanthu?
I hear the Monstress Defamation League sponsored the ticket purchase.
Thankfully, the MADL weren't able to raise the credits for the return trip.
>
>>The Legion is split for now, but some members will be seen in the "other"
>>book.
>
>M'On should commute.
>
Heh. Remember the Levitz days when Mon and Jo could fly from Daxam to Orando
in just 20 pages?
>>The writers split the team to make it easier to focus on each
>>group's characters,
>
>Did everyone notice that Peyer got the characters that have no running plots
>to speak of? The Sterlo characters are all the ones that we've been
>complaining about.
Interesting observation. I guess I should be glad that Lyle is in LSH, even if
Moy won't be drawing him for a while...
>
>>The books will still be linked. L* #67 shows Garth and Imra talking, with
>>Garth unhappy about his assignment.
>
>Every month, on the anniversary of their first date, Imra will send Garth a
>gift certificate to the Nine Planets Ice Cream Shoppe.
>
That tease... she knows Garth'll never be able to fit the commute to the NPICS
in his monitor duty shedule!
>>Tom also said L* #67 features a "new/old character" now called Storm Front.
>
>With a name like that, he probably is really strong and tough.
I dunno, I expect him to be under pressure, worrying about fires he didn't
start.
>
>> Other highlights over the next few months include "magic wars and bizzare
>>characters."
>
>"Magic Wars" and "highlights" don't belong in the same sentence on a Legion
>newsgroup.
Not even if the sentence is "Magic Wars was almost as interesting as reading
Guy Gardner's attempts to fill out the crossword puzzle in Highlighs magazine"?
Lyle
(108)
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Lyle Masaki
(aka spi...@aloha.net)
"It's got a bar code for Pete's sakes!".
William Morton in Bar Crawl of the Damned Special #1
JayJ61952
>Carggites
>>and can triplicate.
>>
>
Because Batch SW6 was all the third bodies and they are now stuck in one of the
Time Trapper's pockets.
Jay J
I don't need no steenkin' signature
JayJ61952
>
>offhand.
So am I, but there must have been a
Storm rip-off character somewhere
among the X-teams the Legion ran
into.
toddler
> >>For at least six months, the Legion won't get any new members.
> >
> >But all the current Legionnaires are going to learn that they're 1/2
> >Carggites and can triplicate.
> >
> With multiple personalities too...
> Hey, if we have more than one of each Legionaire, we could split the title
> and have each title follow one group! Wait, its been done before! Oh heavens!
> >
> >>Monstress will soon receive something new.
> >
> >A pre-paid one-way bus ticket to Xanthu?
>
> I hear the Monstress Defamation League sponsored the ticket purchase.
> Thankfully, the MADL weren't able to raise the credits for the return trip.
> >
I vote for cosmetic surgery.
>
> >>The Legion is split for now, but some members will be seen in the "other"
> >>book.
> >
> >M'On should commute.
> >
> Heh. Remember the Levitz days when Mon and Jo could fly from Daxam to Orando
> in just 20 pages?
>
Heh. I just read my first, very own V1 Legion comic book "The Menace of Beast
Boy"
Adventure Comics 339 which has Superboy fly at super speed from the planet Vorn to
the Planet Lallor in two frames... one to take off and one to land!
>
> >>The writers split the team to make it easier to focus on each
> >>group's characters,
> >
> >Did everyone notice that Peyer got the characters that have no running plots
> >to speak of? The Sterlo characters are all the ones that we've been
> >complaining about.
>
> Interesting observation. I guess I should be glad that Lyle is in LSH, even if
> Moy won't be drawing him for a while...
> >
> >>The books will still be linked. L* #67 shows Garth and Imra talking, with
> >>Garth unhappy about his assignment.
> >
> >Every month, on the anniversary of their first date, Imra will send Garth a
> >gift certificate to the Nine Planets Ice Cream Shoppe.
> >
> That tease... she knows Garth'll never be able to fit the commute to the NPICS
> in his monitor duty shedule!
>
> >>Tom also said L* #67 features a "new/old character" now called Storm Front.
> >
> >With a name like that, he probably is really strong and tough.
>
> I dunno, I expect him to be under pressure, worrying about fires he didn't
> start.
I get the impression of a Polar Boy from the name meeself.
>
> >
> >> Other highlights over the next few months include "magic wars and bizzare
> >>characters."
> >
> >"Magic Wars" and "highlights" don't belong in the same sentence on a Legion
> >newsgroup.
>
> Not even if the sentence is "Magic Wars was almost as interesting as reading
> Guy Gardner's attempts to fill out the crossword puzzle in Highlighs magazine"?
>
> Lyle
>
> (108)
> Hey, Levitz's Magic Wars was pretty cool IMHO.
db127091
AMEN!
Will Keith Giffen return to add his own "magic" touch to this storyline? Yuck!
Sidne G. Ward
>In article <3.0.1.32.1998110...@pop.intergate.bc.ca> Alex Tam <gol...@intergate.bc.ca> writes:
>>Alex Ross is painting, or has painted, the Grell-era Legion for something,
>>but Jeff doesn't what this project is for; maybe it's a lithograph or even
>>just for fun.
>My first reaction to this; Sidne and other anal-retentive Legion fans must
>be checking their bank accounts if it's going to be a lithograph (Ross'
>JSA one went for $400/copy).
I'd way rather pay $400 for a Ross-painted litho of the Grell-era Legion
than $300 for the DCU litho that's coming out soon that only haas a few
tiny Legionnaires on it. I've forgotten who the artists are, though.
>My second reaction to this; Ross often paints from life models. Anyone
>know if Sidra (Night Girl) Roberts and Sidne (pink bikini Saturn Girl! Yes!)
>Ward have been sighted in Chicago? :-)
Actually, I was in Chicago just last weekend. But there is not truth to
the rumor that I attended Ross's Halloween party dressed in a pink bikini.
Sidne Gail Ward
sw...@primenet.com
Sidne G. Ward
>JL Franke wrote:
>> > Tom also said L* #67 features a "new/old character" now called Storm Front.
>>
>> Hm. A Legion character with weather powers, maybe? I'm drawing a blank offhand.
>Storm Boy??
>He was a rejected applicant in the pre-boot. He had a weather
>controlling device hidden under his shirt. Cosmic Boy noticed and
>called him on it!
Don't forget that (a) Storm Boy was actually a Legionnaire for awhile.
No, no. Don't bother looking in the *comics* for his appearance. One of
the infamous 5 year gap members identified in the Mayfair 2995 sourcebook
was named Storm Boy. I can't recall if it'spossible he was the same as
the earlier reject or not.
Sidne Gail Ward
sw...@primenet.com
Dale Hicks
> >episode "New Kids in Town."
>
> Wasn't much of a contest, really.
Really? As I watched it, I was wondering what exactly she was there
for, as she used no super-telepathy during the fight scenes, as Cos
and Cham shouldered all of the work. Except for the "forget everything"
bit, I thought she just sort of stood around.
And I've prolly erased the tape, so I'll continue to believe that.
Honest, toward the end of the fight, I consciously thought, "what
the hell is she there for? Why doesn't she quit chasing Brainiac,
if she's not going to do anything?"
--
Jean-Claude Brain dhi...@gibralter.net
(who thought the ring glow was a little odd)
tphile
"Sidne G. Ward" wrote:
so sidne,
what were you wearing? just a smile? :-)
and lets see the pictures.
i bet alex is doing the cover for a grell lsh trade paperback.
hurrah! the return of soljer!!!!
tphile
sidne, what did you think of the animated saturn girl?
pyth...@my-dejanews.com
"dave leon" <mast...@dotstar.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >>For at least six months, the Legion won't get any new members.
> >
> >But all the current Legionnaires are going to learn that they're 1/2
> Carggites
> >and can triplicate.
> >
>
Well, does this mean Purple, Amber, and Mid will triplicate too? If so, I
*know* where Purple's missing third is. ;-)
~ tracy (LLLUORNU!!!)
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pyth...@my-dejanews.com
lylem...@aol.comBLOCK (LyleMasaki) wrote:
>
> Previosly on racd-lsh, Tro...@primenet.com (T. Troy McNemar) wrote....
>
> >>toward the end of this report. There's no spoiler space to separate such
> >>info from the more general comments.
> >
> >>:=========================:
> >
>
> >gift certificate to the Nine Planets Ice Cream Shoppe.
> >
> That tease... she knows Garth'll never be able to fit the commute to the NPICS
> in his monitor duty shedule!
Forget that, Garth'll never be able to fit into the L* outfit after Nine
Planets.
pyth...@my-dejanews.com
Danny Sichel <eds...@umoncton.ca> wrote:
> Alex Tam wrote:
>
> > Tinya and Jo are concerned about the whereabouts of Tinya's third body;
WHAT!!! Since when? They got Number Two and totally ignore her!
> > we'll see them and others searching for the other Tinya.
With hope, the Triad will be among them....
> Wasn't that Charcoal-Briquette Girl?
She'd be better off.
pyth...@my-dejanews.com
BLOK_delete, th...@AOL.COM wrote:
> Danny Sichel wrote:
> >
> > Alex Tam wrote:
> >
> > > Tinya and Jo are concerned about the whereabouts of Tinya's third body;
> >
>
> is supposedly still able to split into two girls.
> charcoal-briquette!
But apparently, burning the body to a crisp doesn't daunt the writers. :-D
> It's one thing if her spirit survived, by being
> linked to Jo (or something like that), but her body was destroyed!! At
> best there should be two personalities inhabiting Phase's body now, and
> unable to duplicate!
Not that we've seen older, wiser Phase of late.
> Plus there should be some sort of power struggle over who is in control
> of that body (and Jo doesn't count!).
Lol! It's not that he doesn't, Reaus, it's that he can't. ;-)
> But then I guess that would require some thought and some story telling,
> so it'll obviously never happen!
No. Comment. :-)
pyth...@my-dejanews.com
fe...@lsh.org (Dan McEwen) wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Nov 1998 17:52:53 -0500, Reaus <Bl...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >Danny Sichel wrote:
> >>
> >> Alex Tam wrote:
> >>
> >
> >Plus there should be some sort of power struggle over who is in control
> >of that body (and Jo doesn't count!).
>
No kidding. Older, more experienced, Phase, former leader of the LEGION, is
now just a simpering ignored shadow of herself. Right. I'm believing that of
the girl who beat the turf out of Lobo.
pyth...@my-dejanews.com
yl...@columbia.edu (Yeechang Lee) wrote:
> Danny Sichel <eds...@umoncton.ca> wrote:
> > > Tinya and Jo are concerned about the whereabouts of Tinya's third body;
> > > we'll see them and others searching for the other Tinya.
> >
> > Wasn't that Charcoal-Briquette Girl?
>
As opposed to Ayla: Lightning-toasted Lass. :-)
~ tracy
pyth...@my-dejanews.com
jayj...@aol.comnospam (JayJ61952) wrote:
> >> Tom also said L* #67 features a "new/old character" now called Storm Front.
> >
> >Hm. A Legion character with weather powers, maybe? I'm drawing a blank
> >offhand.
>
> Storm rip-off character somewhere
> among the X-teams the Legion ran
> into.
I thought Storm of the X-Men had originally been designed to be a Legionnaire.
Isn't that the case? :-o
~ tracy (LLLUORNU!!!)
pyth...@my-dejanews.com
sw...@primenet.com (Sidne G. Ward) wrote:
> t...@netcom.com (Tom Galloway) writes:
>
> >In article <3.0.1.32.1998110...@pop.intergate.bc.ca> Alex Tam
<gol...@intergate.bc.ca> writes:
>
> Actually, I was in Chicago just last weekend. But there is not truth to
> the rumor that I attended Ross's Halloween party dressed in a pink bikini.
It was orange, white, and purple. ;-)
Sidne G. Ward
>"Sidne G. Ward" wrote:
>> Actually, I was in Chicago just last weekend. But there is not truth to
>> the rumor that I attended Ross's Halloween party dressed in a pink bikini.
>so sidne,
>what were you wearing? just a smile? :-)
>and lets see the pictures.
On Halloween I wore a black and white striped shirt, black jeans, and
white athletic shoes. Not much of a costume.
Oh yeah, I also wore a Legionnaires cloisonne pin.
The only picture of me from that day (that I'm aware of) is the one Joe
Chiapetta drew of me and Mike Chary at dinner. Joe kept the sketch.
>i bet alex is doing the cover for a grell lsh trade paperback.
>hurrah! the return of soljer!!!!
Somehow I can't see DC deciding to reprint the Grell-era Legion stories at
this time.
>sidne, what did you think of the animated saturn girl?
I *loved* her. Cute outfit. (Although I prefer the full stripe). And I
liked the way her eyes glowed when she was using her power.
Sidne Gail Ward
sw...@primenet.com
T. Troy McNemar
<dhi...@gibralter.NOSPM.com> wrote:
>T. Troy McNemar <Tro...@primenet.com> wrote in article <3647427e....@news.primenet.com>...
>>>Tom thought that Imra was the best-handled Legionnaire in the SUPERMAN
>>>episode "New Kids in Town."
>>
>> Wasn't much of a contest, really.
>
>Really? As I watched it, I was wondering what exactly she was there
>for, as she used no super-telepathy during the fight scenes, as Cos
>and Cham shouldered all of the work. Except for the "forget everything"
>bit, I thought she just sort of stood around.
In terms of powers, she didn't get to do much. One of the problems sending a
telepath after an artificial intelligence. But she was definitely the team
leader and the main go-between for Clark and the Legion.
--
T. Troy McNemar Tro...@primenet.com
"Ev'ew tog eht taeb!"
-The Zo-Gos
Favorite Comic of the Week: YOUNG JUSTICE #4
Runner-up: PREACHER #45
LLL!
T. Troy McNemar
wrote:
>Somehow I can't see DC deciding to reprint the Grell-era Legion stories at
>this time.
We're only 2-3 archives away, though.
Too bad. Nobody's ever drawn the Legion women as sexy as Grell did. He even
made me like Shrinking Violet.
Dan McEwen
>In article <19981110031908...@ng32.aol.com>,
> jayj...@aol.comnospam (JayJ61952) wrote:
>> >> Tom also said L* #67 features a "new/old character" now called Storm Front.
>> >
>> >Hm. A Legion character with weather powers, maybe? I'm drawing a blank
>> >offhand.
>>
>> So am I, but there must have been a
>> Storm rip-off character somewhere
>> among the X-teams the Legion ran
>> into.
>
>I thought Storm of the X-Men had originally been designed to be a Legionnaire.
>Isn't that the case? :-o
Sort of. The basic look of her was the same, but I believe she was
supposed to be some kind of cat creature. And her hair would have
been black, IIRC.
Dan McEwen
>In article <3647b...@edison.dotstar.net>,
> "dave leon" <mast...@dotstar.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >>Monstress will soon receive something new.
>> >
>> Hopefully it's a mailbomb.
>
>
>S
>
>P
>
>O
>
>I
>
>L
>
>S
>
>
>No. Apparently it's new skin colour. Did you see the cover on the DC site?
So she's a Khund? Can she *pleeeeease* be a spy?!
RDSCOTT1
source escapes me. In that interview, he indicated that originally
Nightcrawler was intended to become a Legionnaire. This article also included
a drawing of Dave's vision of the Legion and there was a character who could
have been an earlier version of Storm.
Sidne G. Ward
>Previously on rec.arts.comics.dc.lsh, sw...@primenet.com (Sidne G. Ward)
>wrote:
>>Somehow I can't see DC deciding to reprint the Grell-era Legion stories at
>>this time.
>We're only 2-3 archives away, though.
I'll be shocked if they ever get around to publishing those stories in the
Archives format. Although, if we keep buying the LSH Archives, I'm sure
DC will keep publishing them. (I'd just be shocked if enough of us kept
buying into the later eras.)
And I'm pretty sure that DC hasn't commissioned Ross to paint a cover for
an Archive reprinting those stories on the hope that they'll eventually be
reprinted.
>Too bad. Nobody's ever drawn the Legion women as sexy as Grell did. He even
>made me like Shrinking Violet.
I used to be the biggest Grell fangirl. But when I go back and look at
those old LSH stories now, the art's not nearly as fantastic as I remember
it.
Sidne Gail Ward
sw...@primenet.com
Rusty
T. Troy McNemar wrote:
> Previously on rec.arts.comics.dc.lsh, "Dale Hicks"
> <dhi...@gibralter.NOSPM.com> wrote:
> >T. Troy McNemar <Tro...@primenet.com> wrote in article <3647427e....@news.primenet.com>...
> >> Previously on rec.arts.comics.dc.lsh, Alex Tam <gol...@intergate.bc.ca> wrote:
>
> >>>Tom thought that Imra was the best-handled Legionnaire in the SUPERMAN
> >>>episode "New Kids in Town."
> >>
> >> Wasn't much of a contest, really.
> >
> >Really? As I watched it, I was wondering what exactly she was there
> >for, as she used no super-telepathy during the fight scenes, as Cos
> >and Cham shouldered all of the work. Except for the "forget everything"
> >bit, I thought she just sort of stood around.
>
> In terms of powers, she didn't get to do much. One of the problems sending a
> telepath after an artificial intelligence. But she was definitely the team
> leader and the main go-between for Clark and the Legion.
She wiped out the whole town of Smallville memory of their existence. I'd think it was a very
important use of her power.
Rusty
Dan McEwen
I thought Nightcrawler and Storm were both intended not for the
Legion, but for a Legion spin-off titled the Outsiders.
Ben Weiss
>
> delurking momentarilly to share my wealth of x-knowledge....
>
> In an article in Wizard, (and undoubtedly elsewhere) he showed sketches for an
> early Nightcrawler, and a character called the Black Cat, which would be
> revised to become Storm. These two, along with what would eventually become
> Colossus, then Ferro Lad's brother, where indeed intended for a Legion spin-off
> called the Outsider's.
>
> And I'm probably wrong in some respect, so feel free to correct me...
Sounds right to me, but since the original inquiry was by Tracy Paddock,
she may be interested to know that Storm was a combination of Cockrum's
designs for several Outsiders, one of whom, Trio, was a Carggite.
Ben
eleme...@lsh.org
Bill Hay
>Previously on rec.arts.comics.dc.lsh, Alex Tam <gol...@intergate.bc.ca> wrote:
>
>>For at least six months, the Legion won't get any new members.
>
>But all the current Legionnaires are going to learn that they're 1/2 Carggites
>and can triplicate.
>
Now we know why RJ Brande treats her like a daughter.
sor...@my-dejanews.com
pyth...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> In article <364729...@umoncton.ca>,
> Danny Sichel <eds...@umoncton.ca> wrote:
> >
> > > Tinya and Jo are concerned about the whereabouts of Tinya's third body;
>
Well, TPTB had this really important story to do which introduced a vital
character so they didn't have time to.......ah, hell! I give up. I may be
biased, but the last issue I read (LSH 110) annoyed me so much that, for the
first time in 17 years I'm not going to buy the next issue.
Cheers,
Dave
Foenix13
In an article in Wizard, (and undoubtedly elsewhere) he showed sketches for an
early Nightcrawler, and a character called the Black Cat, which would be
revised to become Storm. These two, along with what would eventually become
Colossus, then Ferro Lad's brother, where indeed intended for a Legion spin-off
called the Outsider's.
And I'm probably wrong in some respect, so feel free to correct me...
Jason "The Phoenix" Bourgeois
Tom Galloway
Sidne G. Ward <sw...@primenet.com> wrote:
>I'll be shocked if they ever get around to publishing those stories in the
>Archives format. Although, if we keep buying the LSH Archives, I'm sure
>DC will keep publishing them. (I'd just be shocked if enough of us kept
>buying into the later eras.)
The real test of Legion fandom's anal-retentive faction: Legion Archives,
the Conway-Thomas era volume.
I'd *really* hope they'd just skip over straight to the second Levitz run....
tyg t...@netcom.com
T. Troy McNemar
wrote:
>Tro...@primenet.com (T. Troy McNemar) writes:
>>Previously on rec.arts.comics.dc.lsh, sw...@primenet.com (Sidne G. Ward)
>>wrote:
>>>Somehow I can't see DC deciding to reprint the Grell-era Legion stories at
>>>this time.
>
>>We're only 2-3 archives away, though.
>
>I'll be shocked if they ever get around to publishing those stories in the
>Archives format. Although, if we keep buying the LSH Archives, I'm sure
>DC will keep publishing them. (I'd just be shocked if enough of us kept
>buying into the later eras.)
Don't look at me, I'm shocked there's a volume 8. And I can't believe that
they'd consider publishing a volume 9, but it helps that I know the quality of
the material that would be reprinted in a volume 9.
--
T. Troy McNemar Tro...@primenet.com
"Abbay abbad ood!"
-Fred Zatanastone
Favorite Comic of the Week: LEGENDS OF THE DC UNIVERSE #12
Runner-up: BLACK PANTHER #3
LLL!
T. Troy McNemar
>The real test of Legion fandom's anal-retentive faction: Legion Archives,
>the Conway-Thomas era volume.
>
>I'd *really* hope they'd just skip over straight to the second Levitz run....
Are you kidding? And miss our chance to pay $50 for reprints of the Space
Circus, Lord Romdur and Dr. Mayavale story?
Sidne G. Ward
>In article <72ckmf$ra1$1...@nnrp02.primenet.com>,
>Sidne G. Ward <sw...@primenet.com> wrote:
>>I'll be shocked if they ever get around to publishing those stories in the
>>Archives format. Although, if we keep buying the LSH Archives, I'm sure
>>DC will keep publishing them. (I'd just be shocked if enough of us kept
>>buying into the later eras.)
>The real test of Legion fandom's anal-retentive faction: Legion Archives,
>the Conway-Thomas era volume.
My *own* anal-retentiveness regarding the Legion doesn't shock me. And
the fact that some other Legion fans are this a-r doesn't shock me. But
I'd be shocked if there are *enough* of us who'd buy a Conway-Thomas era
volume.
>I'd *really* hope they'd just skip over straight to the second Levitz run....
I'd guess DC'll just keep reprinting straight through until they don't
sell enough to continue the series.
Sidne Gail Ward
sw...@primenet.com
Dale Hicks
> In article <72ckmf$ra1$1...@nnrp02.primenet.com>,
> Sidne G. Ward <sw...@primenet.com> wrote:
> >I'll be shocked if they ever get around to publishing those stories in the
> >Archives format. Although, if we keep buying the LSH Archives, I'm sure
> >DC will keep publishing them. (I'd just be shocked if enough of us kept
> >buying into the later eras.)
>
> The real test of Legion fandom's anal-retentive faction: Legion Archives,
> the Conway-Thomas era volume.
>
Yeah, well bleep you too. I grew up on that, and _that_ was the stuff
that made me a die-hard fan. Not the silly Adventure stuff, and not
the sophisticated Baxter series (which was moved to a distribution
system that as a kid I had _no_ access to), but the Conway stuff.
And although it's Apollo (Starlin, IIRC) that wrote it, I dare you to
find a more touching moment than the Wildfire speech to Superboy in
the ruins of the Legion clubhouse destroyed by Omega.
I'm buying until they stop printing or the price takes a drastic hike.
--
Jean-Claude Brain dhi...@gibralter.com
(who's still trying to figure out what wasn't Essential about the
Lee/Kirby and Thomas/Adams X-Men)
Mr. Todd D. Martin
T. Troy McNemar wrote:
> Previously on rec.arts.comics.dc.lsh, sw...@primenet.com (Sidne G. Ward)
> wrote:
> >Tro...@primenet.com (T. Troy McNemar) writes:
> >>Previously on rec.arts.comics.dc.lsh, sw...@primenet.com (Sidne G. Ward)
> >>wrote:
>
> >>>Somehow I can't see DC deciding to reprint the Grell-era Legion stories at
> >>>this time.
> >
> >>We're only 2-3 archives away, though.
> >
> >I'll be shocked if they ever get around to publishing those stories in the
> >Archives format. Although, if we keep buying the LSH Archives, I'm sure
> >DC will keep publishing them. (I'd just be shocked if enough of us kept
> >buying into the later eras.)
>
> Don't look at me, I'm shocked there's a volume 8. And I can't believe that
> they'd consider publishing a volume 9, but it helps that I know the quality of
> the material that would be reprinted in a volume 9.
>
> --
> T. Troy McNemar Tro...@primenet.com
I'm half way through collecting the Legion archives to date, and believe
that Legion must be doing something right for 8 archives to be available...
8 is more archives than any other DC archive title.
Anyone have a clue as to why our Legion title get's the attention and
other, more popular titles are lagging?
T. Troy McNemar
<tod...@foxvalley.net> wrote:
> I'm half way through collecting the Legion archives to date, and believe
>that Legion must be doing something right for 8 archives to be available...
>8 is more archives than any other DC archive title.
> Anyone have a clue as to why our Legion title get's the attention and
>other, more popular titles are lagging?
Sales. Legion Archives sell. I've heard that Legion Archives sell
significantly better than any of the other Archives, but I've never seen any
sales data to confirm this.
--
T. Troy McNemar Tro...@primenet.com
Sidne G. Ward
> I'm half way through collecting the Legion archives to date, and believe
>that Legion must be doing something right for 8 archives to be available...
>8 is more archives than any other DC archive title.
> Anyone have a clue as to why our Legion title get's the attention and
>other, more popular titles are lagging?
'cause Legion fans are the coolest fans in all of comicdom.
We're also the most anal-retentive and fanatical, though, so it all evens
out.
Sidne Gail Ward
sw...@primenet.com
Ben Weiss
> David Stepp's recent survey of the newsgroups and some mailing lists
> provided this table of Archives owned from 115 respondents:
>
> Rank Archive Total Owned
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 4 * LSH #1 55
> 5 * LSH #2 52
> 11 * LSH #3 46
> 14 * LSH #4 43
> 17 * LSH #5 38
> 19 * LSH #6 35
> 21 * LSH #7 34
> Unfortunately he didn't have any sales figures. I suppose that
> this list is a reasonable one.
I'm rather surprised that the archives are selling progressively less.
Given the quality of the stories, I have no interest in buying the
earliest ones; rather, I ponied up for the peak Shooter/Swan era in
Archives 6-8 (and will probably pick up 5, but nothing earlier).
Ben
eleme...@lsh.org
pyth...@my-dejanews.com
Ben Weiss <benw...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> she may be interested to know that Storm was a combination of Cockrum's
> designs for several Outsiders, one of whom, Trio, was a Carggite.
Three Storms? My God. That would have made me happy. As it stands, I wish they
had made Storm a Legionnaire. :-1
~ tracy (LLLUORNU!!!)
Dale Hicks
> Previously on rec.arts.comics.dc.lsh, "Mr. Todd D. Martin"
> <tod...@foxvalley.net> wrote:
>
> > Anyone have a clue as to why our Legion title get's the attention and
> >other, more popular titles are lagging?
>
> significantly better than any of the other Archives, but I've never seen any
> sales data to confirm this.
David Stepp's recent survey of the newsgroups and some mailing lists
provided this table of Archives owned from 115 respondents:
Rank Archive Total Owned
________________________________________________________________________
1 JLA #1 62
2 All-Star #1 57
3 Superman #1 56
4 * LSH #1 55
5 Green Lantern #1 52
5 * LSH #2 52
7 All-Star #2 51
8 Batman #1 50
9 All-Star #3 49
10 SHAZAM #1 47
11 Flash #1 46
11 JLA #2 46
11 * LSH #3 46
14 * LSH #4 43
15 Superman #2 40
16 Wonder Woman #1 39
17 * LSH #5 38
18 JLA #3 37
19 Batman #2 35
19 * LSH #6 35
21 Dark Knight #1 34
21 * LSH #7 34
23 Superman #3 33
24 JLA #4 32
25 Action #1 31
26 Batman #3 29
26 Superman #4 29
28 Batman #4 28
28 Dark Knight #2 28
30 Action #2 25
Unfortunately he didn't have any sales figures. I suppose that
this list is a reasonable one.
--
Cranial Crusader dhi...@gibralter.com
Tom Galloway
>Unfortunately he didn't have any sales figures. I suppose that
>this list is a reasonable one.
Paul Levitz stated at this year's San Diego Legion panel that Legion
Archives sold about 5,000, and sold very well compared to other Archives.
tyg t...@netcom.com
Sidne G. Ward
>Dale Hicks wrote:
>> David Stepp's recent survey of the newsgroups and some mailing lists
>> provided this table of Archives owned from 115 respondents:
>>
>> Rank Archive Total Owned
>> ________________________________________________________________________
>> 4 * LSH #1 55
>> 5 * LSH #2 52
>> 11 * LSH #3 46
>> 14 * LSH #4 43
>> 17 * LSH #5 38
>> 19 * LSH #6 35
>> 21 * LSH #7 34
>> Unfortunately he didn't have any sales figures. I suppose that
>> this list is a reasonable one.
>I'm rather surprised that the archives are selling progressively less.
>Given the quality of the stories, I have no interest in buying the
>earliest ones; rather, I ponied up for the peak Shooter/Swan era in
>Archives 6-8 (and will probably pick up 5, but nothing earlier).
Three reasons:
1. They're not really selling a lot less in the long run, but people
start out buying the first one, then the second, then the third, etc.
Since the Archives are a little expensive, it takes awhile for people to
put together a collection of them.
2. Some people start buying them, then eventually drop out. Maybe they
quit buying comics altogether. Or maybe they just can't afford to keep
buying Archives.
3. The earlier ones are more likely to have been available at discount
prices than the later ones. Dealers want to move older stock, DC
incentives to retailers, etc. People have bought the ones they've found
discounted, but not the ones that haven't been marked down often (yet).
Sidne Gail Ward
sw...@primenet.com
Sean Daugherty
<benw...@earthlink.net>, was heard saying:
> I'm rather surprised that the archives are selling progressively less.
> Given the quality of the stories, I have no interest in buying the
> earliest ones; rather, I ponied up for the peak Shooter/Swan era in
> Archives 6-8 (and will probably pick up 5, but nothing earlier).
It would appear to be the rule of thumb regarding movie sequels, albeit
applied to the print medium: Every successive "sequel" will sell
proportionately less than its forebear. I'd still imagine that the
majority of people buying these are either passerbys, casual fans, or
relative newcomers who probably don't realize or entirely care about the
quality of the stories being published. The same thing appears to apply
to the other entries into the archives series.
--
Sean Christian Daugherty -- sean...@erols.com -- AIM: HeiwaIkari
"Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned."
- W.B. Yeats, "The Second Coming"
Dan McEwen
>3. The earlier ones are more likely to have been available at discount
>prices than the later ones. Dealers want to move older stock, DC
>incentives to retailers, etc. People have bought the ones they've found
>discounted, but not the ones that haven't been marked down often (yet).
Actually, the earlier ones were *cheaper* than the later ones.
Volumes 1-4 were $39.95. The rest are $49.95.
Sidne G. Ward
And it's even more likely that the earlier volumes have been sold at below
retail.
Sidne Gail Ward
sw...@primenet.com
JayJ61952
>>other, more popular titles are lagging?
>
>
>We're also the most anal-retentive and fanatical, though, so it all evens out.
And most of us are old enough to have real
jobs, so we can afford them !
Jay J
I don't need no steenkin' signature
Jonathan L. Miller
(Sean Daugherty) wrote:
> On or about Thu, 12 Nov 1998 23:15:56 -0600, the accused, Ben Weiss
> <benw...@earthlink.net>, was heard saying:
>
> > I'm rather surprised that the archives are selling progressively less.
> > Given the quality of the stories, I have no interest in buying the
> > earliest ones; rather, I ponied up for the peak Shooter/Swan era in
> > Archives 6-8 (and will probably pick up 5, but nothing earlier).
>
> It would appear to be the rule of thumb regarding movie sequels, albeit
> applied to the print medium: Every successive "sequel" will sell
> proportionately less than its forebear. I'd still imagine that the
> majority of people buying these are either passerbys, casual fans, or
> relative newcomers who probably don't realize or entirely care about the
> quality of the stories being published. The same thing appears to apply
> to the other entries into the archives series.
>
Actually, I'd say it has something to do with these 2 factors:
1. The first few Archives volumes were $10 cheaper than the rest of 'em
2. The later the stories the Archive reprint, the cheaper the actual
original issues are--not to mention the easier to find. At this point, the
Archives are printing stuff I already have. True, I want them eventually,
but it's hard to justify $50 for stuff you already own in some form (says
the guy who ordered the Crisis book).
And a quick #3:
They're not easy to find. I haven't seen anything other than #1s and
(strangely enough) #7s in a store here in months. True, they can be
ordered, but it makes it more difficult for Christmas shoppers who might
not go into comic stores regularly....
jonathan.
Jencomx3
>No kidding. Older, more experienced, Phase, former leader of the LEGION, is
>now just a simpering ignored shadow of herself. Right. I'm believing that of
>the girl who beat the turf out of Lobo.
>
>~ tracy (LLLUORNU!!!)
EXACTLY!!!! THIS IS NOT OUR old friend...heh! she should not be this passive
participant now! She should be in the drivers seat!
Jen
Jencomx3
>And yet none of them can find their third body.
>
heh maybe it's with Jan's brain and Zoe's brain! hehhehehehehe
Jen
evil I am just evil
Vegetable lad and lass for leaders!
John Northey
Miller) wrote:
>They're not easy to find. I haven't seen anything other than #1s and
>(strangely enough) #7s in a store here in months. True, they can be
>ordered, but it makes it more difficult for Christmas shoppers who might
>not go into comic stores regularly....
Well, this is something that bugs me about my local store at times.
I've told them, many times, that I'm wanting to slowly pick up the
Sandman collections yet right now all they have are two issues of the
collections. If they kept a full set in at all times (and yes, it is
a big enough store to keep at least _that_ much overhead) then I'd
probably be on the 5th volume by now rather than waiting for the
second.
Similar thing with LSH, there are many LSH addicts out there and with
Christmas coming stores should have a full set of these (and of
Superman and Batman) visable for buyers. High price items perfect for
giving to that comic addict on your list. Maybe even have collectors
give a list of which collections they want to the store for showing to
gift givers (ala the wedding registries) since most people have a hard
time knowing what collectors are looking for.
Oh, just as an oddity, I'm not buying any LSH archives until the next
one (#9) with the Action issues. They are a pain to read right now
and having them in a collection would also save me from the
never-ending search for the couple of issues I still need. A full
Adventure run was far easier to do (OK, all but 247).
John Northey.
Fishnet Kid and creator of the Fans of Teri Sue Wood site.
http://terisuewood.home.ml.org