LSH: AOL Chat for 5/6 with McCraw, Moy & Boyd
T. Troy McNemar, Esq.
Tom McCraw (LSH/L* co-plotter/colorist), Jeff Moy (L* penciller)
and Ron Boyd (LSH inker) were the guests on America Online's
Legion of Super-Heroes Chat for Tuesday, May 6, 1997.
Legion of Super-Heroes Chat is held every Tuesday in the DC
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held every Thursday in the same area at 10:00 p.m. EST.
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Tom wasn't certain how many stories would be in LSH #100, but
thought that there would at least be 4 or 5 stories. Tom had
heard that the issue may have a gatefold cover.
Ron indicated that there will be a Legion Animated story in LSH
#100. He stated that it's mainly a Brainiac 5 story, but he
wants to try to fit everyone in.
Tom indicated that there was a seventh volume of the Legion
Archives in the works.
Tom opined that the poster in L* #50 looked fantastic. He
indicated that it will have information about all of the
characters on the back.
Phil Jiminez pencilled a page for LSH #94. Tom indicated that
Phil might be doing something else.
Tom did not believe there was going to be a Legion title in DC's
new Tangent line of titles.
KC Carlson has okayed some Legion mini-series, but they still
need to get the approval of DC's higher-ups. Tom promised to
provide information as soon as the mini series became official.
Several characters were under consideration, and proposals had
been submitted for both individual characters and groups.
Apparition cannot use her powers to possess humans. She is able
to disrupt machinery.
Spark is Jeff's favorite Legionnaire, and he also likes XS.
Tom's favorite Legionnaire is Triad.
Tom observed that the Legion books have plenty of romance in them
when the team isn't fighting a villain.
Jeff described M'Onel as having powers similar to the pre-Crisis
Superman.
Tom doesn't perceive Ferro as dumb, but merely new to the hero
business.
Tom quipped that Brainiac 5 is not as smart as Koko, otherwise
Brainy would have Koko off of his shoulder by now. Tom thought
that one of the advantages of having Koko was that Brainy no
longer needed to brush his hair because Koko maintains it for
him.
Tom believed Dreamer and Star Boy would stay together for a
while.
Tom indicated that the Mysa flashback in L* #49 was colored
purple because of the color of her robe. The color choice had
nothing to do with Gemworld.
The Legionnaires will have more stories that take place off
planet.
The JLA may be appearing in a Legion title. The Legion team has
asked for the appearance, but it's not definite.
We will be seeing some Legionnaires' families very soon.
Magno is not Cosmic Boy's brother. Pol Krinn is Cosmic Boy's
brother. Pol will be appearing soon.
LSH #94 will reveal whether Koko sleeps in the same bed as
Brainiac 5.
Jeff indicated that the issues after L* #50 were reflection
issues.
When asked if there were any plans for a member of the Marvel
family, Tom pointed fans to L* #50 for a possible answer.
Tom pointed fans to L* #50 to learn Dragonmage's fate.
Element Lad isn't on the cover to L* #51 because he is somewhere
else.
Jeff indicated that one of the pairs of legs of the "guy under
the rock" were miscolored on the preview cover to L* #51 that
was released on AOL. Tom observed that he'd even done a
color guide for the cover colorist for the issue. Jeff indicated
that fans would figure out who the hero is in L* #50.
When asked if Shrinking Violet would be getting Leviathan's
growing powers, Tom indicated that it may be true. He declined
to reveal whether the powers would have anything to do with the
Emerald Eye.
Tom observed that the Legion will have their hands full with
Computo in LSH #98 through #100. Computo will be in the 20th
century. Tom joked that the plot to LSH #98 with Computo even
scared him. He noted that Brainiac 5's original goal in building
Computo was to get the Legionnaires home, but that the creation
grew out of control on its own.
The 20th century Legionnaires will return to the 30th century in
LSH #100. Tom indicated that the two Legion books will
sometimes overlap when all the characters return to the 20th
century.
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Carl Fink
In article <337b15aa...@news.goodnet.com>,
tro...@indirect.com (T. Troy McNemar, Esq.) wrote:
>Tom indicated that there was a seventh volume of the Legion
>Archives in the works.
Good.
>Tom did not believe there was going to be a Legion title in DC's
>new Tangent line of titles.
Drat.
>Apparition cannot use her powers to possess humans. She is able
>to disrupt machinery.
So she's a wimpy, poorly-written version of the last model of the
Spectre? Crossed with Kitty Pryde? Wonderful. <spits>
>Tom indicated that the Mysa flashback in L* #49 was colored
>purple because of the color of her robe. The color choice had
>nothing to do with Gemworld.
Drat.
>Tom indicated that the two Legion books will
>sometimes overlap when all the characters return to the 20th
>century.
Please tell me this is a typo.
Any word on one or two better writers being assigned? Or one of DC's
. . . one good remaining editors?
Yeah, I'm in a bad mood, but the above is sincere.
--
Carl Fink ca...@panix.com
". . . people everywhere -- when you strip away their superficial
differences -- are crazy." Dave Barry
Adam Tyner
In article <337b15aa...@news.goodnet.com>, tro...@indirect.com says...
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>The 20th century Legionnaires will return to the 30th century in
>LSH #100. Tom indicated that the two Legion books will
>sometimes overlap when all the characters return to the 20th
>century.
All the characters are returning to the 20th century after a while? (sigh)
BTW, this sounded like a great chat...tons of info in this one, although I kind
of regret reading that last bit... :<
-A rather depressed Adam
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Michael Klordny Grabois
On 13 May 1997 19:27:01 -0700, tro...@indirect.com (T. Troy McNemar, Esq.)
wrote:
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>Ron indicated that there will be a Legion Animated story in LSH
>#100. He stated that it's mainly a Brainiac 5 story, but he
>wants to try to fit everyone in.
We want a "Legion Adventures" in "Adventure Comics"!
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>Tom indicated that there was a seventh volume of the Legion
>Archives in the works.
Which, by my calculations, should include "Adventure" 359-360 (Legion Chain
Gang), 361 (Unkillables, intro Dominators), 362-363 (Mantis Morlo), 364
(Super-Pets), 365-366 (LSH vs. Fatal Five, intro Shadow Lass), and 367 (LSH vs.
Dark Circle, intro new HQ).
Note that issues 361-364 have never been reprinted.
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>Tom did not believe there was going to be a Legion title in DC's
>new Tangent line of titles.
What's "Tangent"?
>Apparition cannot use her powers to possess humans. She is able
>to disrupt machinery.
So what's the difference between her and Kitty Pryde?
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>Tom indicated that the Mysa flashback in L* #49 was colored
>purple because of the color of her robe. The color choice had
>nothing to do with Gemworld.
Of course, that won't stop anyone from speculating otherwise. But a purple robe
-- maybe she's the Time Trapper, too!
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>The JLA may be appearing in a Legion title. The Legion team has
>asked for the appearance, but it's not definite.
Nothing like a boost from one of DC's best-selling books...
>Jeff indicated that the issues after L* #50 were reflection
>issues.
Great. Just what we need, more gimmick covers. <G>
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>The 20th century Legionnaires will return to the 30th century in
>LSH #100.
Sigh.
>Tom indicated that the two Legion books will
>sometimes overlap when all the characters return to the 20th
>century.
So will there be separate teams? Or just two concurrent (but not crossover)
books?
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Timothy Burke
> In article <337b15aa...@news.goodnet.com>, tro...@indirect.com says...
> >
> >The 20th century Legionnaires will return to the 30th century in
> >LSH #100. Tom indicated that the two Legion books will
> >sometimes overlap when all the characters return to the 20th
> >century.
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> All the characters are returning to the 20th century after a while? (sigh)
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> BTW, this sounded like a great chat...tons of info in this one, although
I kind
> of regret reading that last bit... :<
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> -A rather depressed Adam
More than depresses me. If I understand this correctly, and the Team 20
concept is continuing ad infinitum, then that's it for me with the Legion
books after reading them for a *long* time. (Though I admit the V4 Legion
was able to turn me off for a while.) I've loved most of the reboot, even
Projectra the Python, but I'm heartily sick of the 20th Century storyline.
Ian Wilbert Co Tiu
A gatefold cover. Hmmm, that's something I haven't seen in a while.
That sounds interesting...
> Ron indicated that there will be a Legion Animated story in LSH
> #100. He stated that it's mainly a Brainiac 5 story, but he
> wants to try to fit everyone in.
How about a pin-up of all the L* animated-style??!!
> Tom opined that the poster in L* #50 looked fantastic. He
> indicated that it will have information about all of the
> characters on the back.
That's nice. Think I'll buy two of this issue.
> Tom did not believe there was going to be a Legion title in DC's
> new Tangent line of titles.
What's this Tangent line all about?
> KC Carlson has okayed some Legion mini-series, but they still
> need to get the approval of DC's higher-ups. Tom promised to
> provide information as soon as the mini series became official.
> Several characters were under consideration, and proposals had
> been submitted for both individual characters and groups.
Yes!! Yes!! Yes!! But I HOPE the stories will be in the 30th Century.
> Apparition cannot use her powers to possess humans. She is able
> to disrupt machinery.
Somehow this reminds me of Superboy's "tactile telekinesis", only
it's un-"tactile".
> Tom observed that the Legion books have plenty of romance in them
> when the team isn't fighting a villain.
I should hope so. They should concentrate on fighting the villain
when they're facing one, otherwise this book would turn into one
of them Shakespearean stories of tragic love.
> Jeff described M'Onel as having powers similar to the pre-Crisis
> Superman.
SO does he have super-ventriloquism, telescopic vision, super-breath?
> Tom doesn't perceive Ferro as dumb, but merely new to the hero
> business.
Yeah, I guess this is one of the major points that LSH #93
wanted to show, which unfortunately got buried by all of the
"goofs" of said issue.
> Tom believed Dreamer and Star Boy would stay together for a
> while.
I like that Dreamer isn't such a flirt this time around, and this
for me, oftentimes make up for her irritating sentences that end up
in question marks? Like this? Anyway, I'd like to see these two
together more often as well.
> The Legionnaires will have more stories that take place off
> planet.
Nice!!! I hope we get to see the other L* planets finally, such as
Aarok, Talok VIII, Rimbor, Bgztl, Braal, and also Bismoll & Venegar.
> We will be seeing some Legionnaires' families very soon.
>
> Jeff indicated that the issues after L* #50 were reflection
> issues.
Great!!! Finally, something away from Villain stories. I would
like to see the families of Rokk, Vi, Jenni, Lyle, and Jo.
> When asked if there were any plans for a member of the Marvel
> family, Tom pointed fans to L* #50 for a possible answer.
>
> Tom pointed fans to L* #50 to learn Dragonmage's fate.
Oh goody, goody!!! I can't wait to get my hands on #50.
Michael Blakeman Cleveland
>>Archives in the works.
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>>Tom did not believe there was going to be a Legion title in DC's
>>new Tangent line of titles.
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I've got to know. What do you think the difference between the Tangent
line and the reboot would be?
The rumors I've heard are that the Tangent line are Silver-Agey reboots
of the characters, which seems at least close to what the current Legion
books are trying to do.
If you're thinking that the Tangent line will be sticking _strictly_
to the pre-boot Legion timeline and tales, why is that different from
(and better than) the Archives? If it doesn't, how long is it going
to take for you and other traditionalists to start screaming, "This
sucks too!"?
Michael C
Don Brinker's Evil Twin's Evil Twin
tro...@indirect.com (T. Troy McNemar, Esq.) wrote:
>Tom McCraw (LSH/L* co-plotter/colorist), Jeff Moy (L* penciller)
>and Ron Boyd (LSH inker) were the guests on America Online's
>Legion of Super-Heroes Chat for Tuesday, May 6, 1997.
>Tom opined that the poster in L* #50 looked fantastic. He
>indicated that it will have information about all of the
>characters on the back.
Spoilers for the poster (and L* 50 in general) ....
Even if half the characters aren't legionnaires. I mean,
Monstress???? Gah.
>Spark is Jeff's favorite Legionnaire
Wow. When did this change? :-)
>Jeff indicated that the issues after L* #50 were reflection
>issues.
You mean Mirror Master's showing up?
>When asked if there were any plans for a member of the Marvel
>family, Tom pointed fans to L* #50 for a possible answer.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No, I did *not* like that POS annual. It bored me immensely.
Besides, having a character from the distant future who's a regular
member is *just as bad* as having one from the past. Hasn't the
creative staff learned from others' mistakes?
>Tom pointed fans to L* #50 to learn Dragonmage's fate.
What, he takes a nap?
>The 20th century Legionnaires will return to the 30th century in
>LSH #100.
Oh joy. You mean we only have SEVEN MORE MONTHS of the Storyline From
Hell?
- Don
Don Brinker's Evil Twin's Evil Twin
tbu...@cc.swarthmore.edu (Timothy Burke) wrote:
>In article <5lbdev$a...@battery.awod.com>, cty...@awod.com (Adam Tyner) wrote:
>> In article <337b15aa...@news.goodnet.com>, tro...@indirect.com says...
>> >
>> >The 20th century Legionnaires will return to the 30th century in
>> >LSH #100. Tom indicated that the two Legion books will
>> >sometimes overlap when all the characters return to the 20th
>> >century.
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>> All the characters are returning to the 20th century after a while? (sigh)
>>
>> BTW, this sounded like a great chat...tons of info in this one, although
>I kind
>> of regret reading that last bit... :<
>>
>> -A rather depressed Adam
>More than depresses me. If I understand this correctly, and the Team 20
>concept is continuing ad infinitum, then that's it for me with the Legion
>books after reading them for a *long* time. (Though I admit the V4 Legion
>was able to turn me off for a while.) I've loved most of the reboot, even
>Projectra the Python, but I'm heartily sick of the 20th Century storyline.
Uh, folks? I *think* this was a typo. I even read "30th century "
until people went nuts and started jumping off bridges...
- Don
Carl Fink
In article <5ll02o$e...@ecuador.earthlink.net>,
dbri...@pobox.com (Don Brinker's Evil Twin's Evil Twin) wrote:
>Spoilers for the poster (and L* 50 in general) ....
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>Oh joy. You mean we only have SEVEN MORE MONTHS of the Storyline From
>Hell?
Why no, Don. I just have seven more months of buying only one Legion
book each month. I recommend it.
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Carl Fink
In article <1997051716...@ethanol.gnu.ai.mit.edu>,
Steven Zwanger <szwa...@gnu.ai.mit.edu> wrote:
Steven, please don't both mail and post your replies. If you feel you
*must* mail a copy, then *say so* toward the top.
It doesn't bother me especially, because Yarn makes it easy to detect,
but most newsreaders/mailers don't let the recipient realize that this
has happened, and people write long answers in email, then have to try
to write them again when they realize the message was also posted to
Usenet.
>Carl, who is DC's one good remaining editor? And are you including
>all of DC or just the DCU books?
As far as I can tell, Archie Goodwin (not counting STARMAN, and the
problems there are mainly copyediting rather than "editing" proper).
There are others at DC who were once good editors, and Dennis O'Neill
is showing signs of regaining his skills.
Oh, and the above is really arrogant and informed entirely by my
personal opinions, since I have no knowledge of DC's operations beyond
reading their comics.
Troy Esq
I recently discovered that my Usenet posts haven't been propogating
from my regular ISP. This has apparently caused my "correction"
post to not be seen by some (all?) of you.
Previously on racdl, T. Troy McNemar, Esq. wrote:
SPOILERS
> Tom indicated that the two Legion books will
> sometimes overlap when all the characters return to the 20th
> century.
This is a typo. It should read "30th century".
--
T. Troy McNemar, Esq. Tro...@indirect.com
"Reality continues to ruin my life."
--Calvin, "Homicidal Psycho Jungle Cat"
LLL!
Jacob W Michaels
Carl Fink (ca...@panix.com) wrote:
>In article <1997051716...@ethanol.gnu.ai.mit.edu>,
>Steven Zwanger <szwa...@gnu.ai.mit.edu> wrote:
>>Carl, who is DC's one good remaining editor? And are you including
>>all of DC or just the DCU books?
>As far as I can tell, Archie Goodwin (not counting STARMAN, and the
>problems there are mainly copyediting rather than "editing" proper).
Maybe it's because I'm a copy editor, but I'd argue that part of their
job is just as important as plotting and meeting deadlines, etc. Having
a typo in a book completely throws me out of the story, and looks very
unprofessional also.
Jacob
Carl Fink
In article <337f1...@oit.umass.edu>,
JWMI...@austen.oit.umass.edu (Jacob W Michaels) wrote:
>Maybe it's because I'm a copy editor, but I'd argue that part of their
>job is just as important as plotting and meeting deadlines, etc. Having
>a typo in a book completely throws me out of the story, and looks very
>unprofessional also.
I didn't mean to imply that copyediting is unimportant, at all. I
just meant that Archie Goodwin probably isn't doing it himself any
more.
Rob Hansen
On 18 May 97 14:44:43 GMT, JWMI...@austen.oit.umass.edu (Jacob W
Michaels) wrote:
>Carl Fink (ca...@panix.com) wrote:
>>In article <1997051716...@ethanol.gnu.ai.mit.edu>,
>>Steven Zwanger <szwa...@gnu.ai.mit.edu> wrote:
>
>>>Carl, who is DC's one good remaining editor? And are you including
>>>all of DC or just the DCU books?
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>>As far as I can tell, Archie Goodwin (not counting STARMAN, and the
>>problems there are mainly copyediting rather than "editing" proper).
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>Maybe it's because I'm a copy editor, but I'd argue that part of their
>job is just as important as plotting and meeting deadlines, etc. Having
>a typo in a book completely throws me out of the story, and looks very
>unprofessional also.
Couldn't agree more. My wife is also a copy editor and we've both been
horrified by the number of recent books where the publishers have
obviously assumed that copy-editors are an unnecessary luxury that
can be dispensed with in the age of the spell-checker. The horrible
results in their books prove otherwise, but I'm not sure they've even
noticed this.
In the context of comics, I'm still appalled, many years later, that
during his run on SUPERMAN, John Byrne was able to refer to Superman's
"alien physiognomy" and to Luthor "flaunting the law" without anyone
picking up on this. You have to wonder if anyone actually read this
stuff before it went to the printers.
Rob Hansen
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Carl Fink
In article <1997051803...@ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu>,
Mike Chary <fch...@indiana.edu> wrote:
>You want to hear a pyure rumor? One that I can't back up with anything
>other than I have heard it from a couple people inside DC?
Yes, of course.
I should add to what I wrote before that I meant "DC's superhero
line", DC proper as opposed to Vertigo, Paradox, Helix.
SDelMonte
In article <33906c11...@news.demon.co.uk>, r...@fiawol.demon.co.uk
(Rob Hansen) writes:
>In the context of comics, I'm still appalled, many years later, that
>during his run on SUPERMAN, John Byrne was able to refer to Superman's
>"alien physiognomy" and to Luthor "flaunting the law" without anyone
>picking up on this. You have to wonder if anyone actually read this
>stuff before it went to the printers.
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Well, didn't Luthor flaunt the law? I mean, didn't he think he owned it?
If so, I would expect him to flaunt it. :-)
Simon DelMonte
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Pab Sungenis
Mini-spoilers...HO!
This spoiler space brought to you by Wrigley's Triplemint Gum,
the official gum of Luornu Durgo.
> > Ron indicated that there will be a Legion Animated story in LSH
> > #100. He stated that it's mainly a Brainiac 5 story, but he
> > wants to try to fit everyone in.
Now THIS I'd like to see. Ever since I read Stuart Immonen's "The
Brainiac Adventures" in the back of v.4 #50, I've been hoping for an
"Adventures" style spoof of the rebooted Legion.
...although I see no way they could top the line "Oh, grife, he hit
Devlin! RUN FOR IT!"
Hmmmm...Who's for Devlin O'Ryan as a post-boot Reflecto?
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>Now THIS I'd like to see. Ever since I read Stuart Immonen's "The
>Brainiac Adventures" in the back of v.4 #50, I've been hoping for an
>"Adventures" style spoof of the rebooted Legion.
Well, Adventures in the DC Universe #10 will feature the LSH,
so you will get you wish in the near future if this doesn't meet
your liking.
>...although I see no way they could top the line "Oh, grife, he hit
>Devlin! RUN FOR IT!"
Having not read that issue, I can just imagine what this scene must've
looked like. Gives me a good laugh. Anyone care to see Lev try his
hand at providing the picture that goes wtih this caption?
>Hmmmm...Who's for Devlin O'Ryan as a post-boot Reflecto?
I thought Devlin *was* Refelcto. Didn't they make that official
before End of an Era? Mind you, I dropped V4 for a while, so when I
heard about Devlin's new powers, it just seamed obvious to me...
Wayne (hoping this doesn't turn into another TKM debate now that he's
asking honest questions about events in V4)
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