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Adrian J. McClure
May 2, 2012, 10:52:03 PM5/2/12
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Where did the idea that the LNHQ sub-basements go infinitely deep and
are full of Weird Stuff come from? That's always been one of my
favorite LNH tropes. I've read about the first year's worth of LNH
stories now and they haven't broached that issue yet.
are full of Weird Stuff come from? That's always been one of my
favorite LNH tropes. I've read about the first year's worth of LNH
stories now and they haven't broached that issue yet.
Arthur Spitzer
May 2, 2012, 11:10:39 PM5/2/12
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know) the Saint's Case of the Clueless Mystery seems to be the oldest
mention... although it's possible that Hubert came up with the idea in
Tales of the LNH..
Arthur "The sub sub search engine..." Spitzer
Martin Phipps
May 3, 2012, 1:20:57 AM5/3/12
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sub basements at the time and I know I didn't have the idea. I
suspect it was probably Drizzt but I can't say what story.
Martin
Martin Phipps
May 3, 2012, 1:28:01 AM5/3/12
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On 5月3日, 下午1時20分, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 5月3日, 上午11時10分, Arthur Spitzer <arspit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > On 5/2/12 7:52 PM, Adrian J. McClure wrote:
>
> > > Where did the idea that the LNHQsub-basementsgo infinitely deep and
> On 5月3日, 上午11時10分, Arthur Spitzer <arspit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > On 5/2/12 7:52 PM, Adrian J. McClure wrote:
>
> > > are full of Weird Stuff come from? That's always been one of my
> > > favorite LNH tropes. I've read about the first year's worth of LNH
> > > stories now and they haven't broached that issue yet.
>
> > Doing a googles group search (which is a horrible search engine -- I
> > know) the Saint's Case of the Clueless Mystery seems to be the oldest
> > mention... although it's possible that Hubert came up with the idea in
> > Tales of the LNH..
>
> Well, Hubert had Panta sleeping in "the" basement so we didn't havesubbasementsat the time and I know I didn't have the idea. I
> > > favorite LNH tropes. I've read about the first year's worth of LNH
> > > stories now and they haven't broached that issue yet.
>
> > Doing a googles group search (which is a horrible search engine -- I
> > know) the Saint's Case of the Clueless Mystery seems to be the oldest
> > mention... although it's possible that Hubert came up with the idea in
> > Tales of the LNH..
>
> suspect it was probably Drizzt but I can't say what story.
Confirmed! I found this posted in September, 1994: "[T]here is also a
subbasement with HoloDecStations and a
sub-subbasement which, if nothing else, contains Continuity Champ's
old stuff." So there was a reference to a single sub basement in an
old pre-September 1994 Continuity Champ story. Then in August, 1997,
there was a reference to there being 665 sub basements. That was Tom
Russell. I don't know if that number is considered canon though.
Martin
Martin Phipps
May 3, 2012, 1:34:16 AM5/3/12
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On 5月3日, 下午1時28分, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 5月3日, 下午1時20分, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 5月3日, 上午11時10分, Arthur Spitzer <arspit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > > On 5/2/12 7:52 PM, Adrian J. McClure wrote:
>
> > > > Where did the idea that the LNHQsub-basementsgo infinitely deep and
> > > > are full of Weird Stuff come from? That's always been one of my
> > > > favorite LNH tropes. I've read about the first year's worth of LNH
> > > > stories now and they haven't broached that issue yet.
>
> > > Doing a googles group search (which is a horrible search engine -- I
> > > know) the Saint's Case of the Clueless Mystery seems to be the oldest
> > > mention... although it's possible that Hubert came up with the idea in
> > > Tales of the LNH..
>
> > Well, Hubert had Panta sleeping in "the" basement so we didn't havesubbasementsat the time and I know I didn't have the idea. I
> > suspect it was probably Drizzt but I can't say what story.
>
> Confirmed! I found this posted in September, 1994: "[T]here is also a
> subbasement with HoloDecStations and asub-subbasement which, if nothing else, contains Continuity Champ's
> On 5月3日, 下午1時20分, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 5月3日, 上午11時10分, Arthur Spitzer <arspit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > > On 5/2/12 7:52 PM, Adrian J. McClure wrote:
>
> > > > Where did the idea that the LNHQsub-basementsgo infinitely deep and
> > > > are full of Weird Stuff come from? That's always been one of my
> > > > favorite LNH tropes. I've read about the first year's worth of LNH
> > > > stories now and they haven't broached that issue yet.
>
> > > Doing a googles group search (which is a horrible search engine -- I
> > > know) the Saint's Case of the Clueless Mystery seems to be the oldest
> > > mention... although it's possible that Hubert came up with the idea in
> > > Tales of the LNH..
>
> > Well, Hubert had Panta sleeping in "the" basement so we didn't havesubbasementsat the time and I know I didn't have the idea. I
> > suspect it was probably Drizzt but I can't say what story.
>
> Confirmed! I found this posted in September, 1994: "[T]here is also a
> old stuff."
I found the same quote from June, 1993. Then in September, 1993 Zen
referred to a "sub-sub-sub-basement" in Insanity Watch #1. That mayu
have been the first mention of a sub-sub-sub-basement.
Martin
Martin Phipps
May 3, 2012, 1:41:02 AM5/3/12
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On 5月3日, 下午1時34分, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 5月3日, 下午1時28分, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 5月3日, 下午1時20分, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 5月3日, 上午11時10分, Arthur Spitzer <arspit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On 5/2/12 7:52 PM, Adrian J. McClure wrote:
>
> > > > > Where did the idea that the LNHQsub-basementsgo infinitely deep and
> > > > > are full of Weird Stuff come from? That's always been one of my
> > > > > favorite LNH tropes. I've read about the first year's worth of LNH
> > > > > stories now and they haven't broached that issue yet.
>
> > > > Doing a googles group search (which is a horrible search engine -- I
> > > > know) the Saint'sCaseof theCluelessMysteryseems to be the oldest
> On 5月3日, 下午1時28分, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 5月3日, 下午1時20分, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 5月3日, 上午11時10分, Arthur Spitzer <arspit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On 5/2/12 7:52 PM, Adrian J. McClure wrote:
>
> > > > > Where did the idea that the LNHQsub-basementsgo infinitely deep and
> > > > > are full of Weird Stuff come from? That's always been one of my
> > > > > favorite LNH tropes. I've read about the first year's worth of LNH
> > > > > stories now and they haven't broached that issue yet.
>
> > > > Doing a googles group search (which is a horrible search engine -- I
> > > > mention... although it's possible that Hubert came up with the idea in
> > > > Tales of the LNH..
>
> > > Well, Hubert had Panta sleeping in "the"basementso we didn't have subbasements at the time and I know I didn't have the idea. I
> > > > Tales of the LNH..
>
> > > suspect it was probably Drizzt but I can't say what story.
>
> > Confirmed! I found this posted in September, 1994: "[T]here is also a
> > subbasement with HoloDecStations and a sub-subbasement which, if nothing else, contains Continuity Champ's
>
> > Confirmed! I found this posted in September, 1994: "[T]here is also a
> > old stuff."
>
> I found the same quote from June, 1993. Then in September, 1993 Zen
> referred to a "sub-sub-sub-basement" in Insanity Watch #1. That mayu
> have been the first mention of a sub-sub-sub-basement.
Oh, Dave may technically be correct because I just found the line he
>
> I found the same quote from June, 1993. Then in September, 1993 Zen
> referred to a "sub-sub-sub-basement" in Insanity Watch #1. That mayu
> have been the first mention of a sub-sub-sub-basement.
was referring to in The Case of the Clueless Mystery. It was reposted
in July, 1993 so I don't know when it was originally written. It
mentioned "one of the sub-basements" implying there was more than one.
Anyway, I believe Drizzt's mention of "a sub basement" predates Saints
mention of "sub basements".
Martin
Martin Phipps
May 3, 2012, 1:45:02 AM5/3/12
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On 5月3日, 下午1時41分, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 5月3日, 下午1時34分, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 5月3日, 下午1時28分, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 5月3日, 下午1時20分, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 5月3日, 上午11時10分, Arthur Spitzer <arspit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > On 5/2/12 7:52 PM, Adrian J. McClure wrote:
>
> > > > > > Where did the idea that the LNHQsub-basementsgo infinitely deep and
> > > > > > are full of Weird Stuff come from? That's always been one of my
> > > > > > favorite LNH tropes. I've read about the first year's worth of LNH
> > > > > > stories now and they haven't broached that issue yet.
>
> > > > > Doing a googles group search (which is a horrible search engine -- I
> > > > > know) the Saint'sCaseof theCluelessMysteryseems to be the oldest
> > > > > mention... although it's possible that Hubert came up with the idea in
> > > > > Tales of the LNH..
>
> > > > Well, Hubert had Panta sleeping in "the"basementso we didn't have subbasements at the time and I know I didn't have the idea. I
> > > > suspect it was probably Drizzt but I can't say what story.
>
> > > Confirmed! I found this posted in September, 1994: "[T]here is also a
> > > subbasement with HoloDecStations and a sub-subbasement which, if nothing else, contains Continuity Champ's
> > > old stuff."
>
> > I found the same quote from June, 1993. Then in September, 1993 Zen
> > referred to a "sub-sub-sub-basement" in Insanity Watch #1. That may
> On 5月3日, 下午1時34分, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 5月3日, 下午1時28分, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 5月3日, 下午1時20分, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 5月3日, 上午11時10分, Arthur Spitzer <arspit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > On 5/2/12 7:52 PM, Adrian J. McClure wrote:
>
> > > > > > Where did the idea that the LNHQsub-basementsgo infinitely deep and
> > > > > > are full of Weird Stuff come from? That's always been one of my
> > > > > > favorite LNH tropes. I've read about the first year's worth of LNH
> > > > > > stories now and they haven't broached that issue yet.
>
> > > > > Doing a googles group search (which is a horrible search engine -- I
> > > > > know) the Saint'sCaseof theCluelessMysteryseems to be the oldest
> > > > > mention... although it's possible that Hubert came up with the idea in
> > > > > Tales of the LNH..
>
> > > > Well, Hubert had Panta sleeping in "the"basementso we didn't have subbasements at the time and I know I didn't have the idea. I
> > > > suspect it was probably Drizzt but I can't say what story.
>
> > > Confirmed! I found this posted in September, 1994: "[T]here is also a
> > > subbasement with HoloDecStations and a sub-subbasement which, if nothing else, contains Continuity Champ's
> > > old stuff."
>
> > I found the same quote from June, 1993. Then in September, 1993 Zen
> > referred to a "sub-sub-sub-basement" in Insanity Watch #1. That may
> > have been the first mention of a sub-sub-sub-basement.
>
> Oh, Dave may technically be correct because I just found the line he
> was referring to in The Case of the Clueless Mystery. It was reposted
> in July, 1993 so I don't know when it was originally written. It
> mentioned "one of the sub-basements" implying there was more than one.
>
> Anyway, I believe Drizzt's mention of "a subbasement" predates Saints
>
> Oh, Dave may technically be correct because I just found the line he
> was referring to in The Case of the Clueless Mystery. It was reposted
> in July, 1993 so I don't know when it was originally written. It
> mentioned "one of the sub-basements" implying there was more than one.
>
> mention of "sub basements".
Found it! Drizzt's Blaze of Glory, also reposted in July, 1993. It
looks like we were reposting stuff after the move to RACC.
"We box up his stuff and put it in the sub-sub-sub basement" it says.
Martin
Andrew Perron
May 3, 2012, 3:38:44 AM5/3/12
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On Thu, 3 May 2012 05:45:02 +0000 (UTC), Martin Phipps wrote:
> Found it! Drizzt's Blaze of Glory, also reposted in July, 1993. It
> looks like we were reposting stuff after the move to RACC.
>
> "We box up his stuff and put it in the sub-sub-sub basement" it says.
Hmmmmm. Sensible line of descent, then.
> Found it! Drizzt's Blaze of Glory, also reposted in July, 1993. It
> looks like we were reposting stuff after the move to RACC.
>
> "We box up his stuff and put it in the sub-sub-sub basement" it says.
Andrew "NO .SIG MAN" "Juan" Perron, subbubble.
Adrian J. McClure
May 3, 2012, 10:39:55 AM5/3/12
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Thanks! It would be neat to go through the old stories and put
together some kind of reference document about the portrayal of the
LNHQ and how it's changed over the years and gradually acquired all
these anomalous properties. Unfortunately I wasn't looking out for
that when I was reading them.
together some kind of reference document about the portrayal of the
LNHQ and how it's changed over the years and gradually acquired all
these anomalous properties. Unfortunately I wasn't looking out for
that when I was reading them.
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