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Just Me

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Nov 9, 2009, 2:40:15 PM11/9/09
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According to http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1126594.html . . .

"Concerns are growing in Israel's government over the possibility of a
unilateral Palestinian declaration of independence within the 1967
borders, a move which could potentially be recognized by the United
Nations Security Council.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu recently asked the administration of
U.S. President Barack Obama to veto any such proposal, after reports
reached Jerusalem of support for such a declaration from major
European Union countries, and apparently also certain U.S. officials.

The reports indicated that Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad has
reached a secret understanding with the Obama administration over U.S.
recognition of an independent Palestinian state. Such recognition
would likely transform any Israeli presence across the Green Line,
even in Jerusalem, into an illegal incursion to which the Palestinians
would be entitled to engage in measures of self-defense."
--

This demands of Israel that it abandon Jerusalem. An Israel without
full landed sovereignty over, and all around Jerusalem is no "Israel"
at all. The post-1967 borders are the logical, ancient, natural
borders for the Jewish state, exactly as they have at last come to be
reestablished. It is the geographical logic of that ancient map which
now, thanks to the boundless valor of the Israeli people comes to its
logical conclusion in geophysical reality, and this all the world need
see for a full and final refutation of all naive dreams and irrational
schemes for a "Palestinian state". There has never been any such
thing on the world map, in all of world history and for that reason
there is no place in the world for it now.
--
JM http://whosenose.blogspot.com
http://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com

Grand Mal

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Nov 9, 2009, 2:48:59 PM11/9/09
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"Just Me" <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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You just get worse as you grow older. What do you figure will be the best
way to bring peace to the area, ethnic cleansing? Or should 10 million
people just shut up and do what their masters tell them to do?


john.ku...@sympatico.ca

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Nov 9, 2009, 2:55:41 PM11/9/09
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On Nov 9, 2:40 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> According tohttp://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1126594.html.  . .

That same map
("that ancient map which


> now, thanks to the boundless valor of the Israeli people comes to its

> logical conclusion in geophysical reality, ")

does not include most of the now known world. Times chage.

Just Me

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Nov 9, 2009, 3:30:36 PM11/9/09
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On Nov 9, 1:48 pm, "Grand Mal" <ironw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Just Me" <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:012fc538-ad67-401b...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > According tohttp://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1126594.html.  . .
> > JMhttp://whosenose.blogspot.com

> >http://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
>
> You just get worse as you grow older.

You don't stop to think it might be going the other way? Quick! Take a
peek in your pants to see there's any safety pins or Snuggies in
sight.

> What do you figure will be the best
> way to bring peace to the area, ethnic cleansing? Or should 10 million
> people just shut up and do what their masters tell them to do?

They should stop acting like a bunch of scalp-hunting Comanches,
settle down, go back to their jobs, and sign up to become good Israeli
citizens. Otherwise they ain't nothing but a bunch of pride-crazy cry
babies. What if our Navajos and Apaches were still carrying on like
those spoiled brat Arabs? And had the support of the UN and the
European Union?

Jerusalem belongs to Israel, and May God order a ton of bat shit to
fall on the head of anybody stupid or crazy enough to suppose
otherwise.

Fish Supper

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Nov 9, 2009, 3:18:28 PM11/9/09
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"Grand Mal" <iron...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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He probably does, but the state of Israel definitely does. It has been
carrying out ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians since its illegal
inception and befgore - and there is no sign that it has any plans to change
its criminal, murderous policies - in fact they are getting worse, if
anything.

john.ku...@sympatico.ca

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Nov 9, 2009, 3:36:19 PM11/9/09
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That's what I like about you JM. You're a real 1820's man, Carry on
colonialist.

Grand Mal

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Nov 9, 2009, 4:03:14 PM11/9/09
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"Just Me" <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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-You don't stop to think it might be going the other way? Quick! Take a
-peek in your pants to see there's any safety pins or Snuggies in
-sight.

Keep your attentions outa my pants.

> What do you figure will be the best
> way to bring peace to the area, ethnic cleansing? Or should 10 million
> people just shut up and do what their masters tell them to do?

-They should stop acting like a bunch of scalp-hunting Comanches,
-settle down, go back to their jobs, and sign up to become good Israeli
-citizens. Otherwise they ain't nothing but a bunch of pride-crazy cry
-babies. What if our Navajos and Apaches were still carrying on like
-those spoiled brat Arabs? And had the support of the UN and the
-European Union?

Good analogy. Let's recap what I remember of the American policy re. Native
Indians...
They are to meekly gather when rounded up and march to and live peacefully
on the piece of land designated for them. If that piece of land becomes
otherwise useful, they are to meekly gather again and move to somewhere
else. If they resist they will be slaughtered, man, woman and child. There
is no treaty with them or promise to them that's binding on the government.
They will not be allowed to assimilate fully into society until they are so
few that they are statistically insignifigant.
If you were Palestinian, would you have the option of settling down, going
back to your job and becoming a good Israeli citizen? Does the government
allow that?


-Jerusalem belongs to Israel, and May God order a ton of bat shit to
-fall on the head of anybody stupid or crazy enough to suppose
-otherwise.

xpen...@gmail.com

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Nov 9, 2009, 4:44:25 PM11/9/09
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All this ethnic cleansing and genocide going on yet some how Arabs
constitute over 20% of Israel's population? The original 740,000 are
now 8+ million. How can that be?

john.ku...@sympatico.ca

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On Nov 9, 4:44 pm, xpene...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:18:28 -0000, "Fish Supper" <l...@sea.com> wrote:
>
> >"Grand Mal" <ironw...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> >news:Lm_Jm.51266$Db2.32053@edtnps83...
>
> >> "Just Me" <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:012fc538-ad67-401b...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
> >>> According tohttp://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1126594.html.  . .
> >>> JMhttp://whosenose.blogspot.com

> >>>http://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
>
> >> You just get worse as you grow older. What do you figure will be the best
> >> way to bring peace to the area, ethnic cleansing?
>
> >He probably does, but the state of Israel definitely does. It has been
> >carrying out ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians since its illegal
> >inception and befgore - and there is no sign that it has any plans to change
> >its criminal, murderous policies - in fact they are getting worse, if
> >anything.
>
>  All this ethnic cleansing and genocide going on yet some how Arabs
> constitute over 20% of Israel's population? The original 740,000  are
> now 8+ million. How can that be?

they are doing all they can to resist. Resistance is furtile. Your
best weapon against genocide.

Fish Supper

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Your figures are as faulty as your thinking.
Go away and come back when you have something worthwhile to contribute.

Fish Supper

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"Grand Mal" <iron...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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In the same way the Apartheid South Africans allowed blacks and coloureds to
have full South African citizenship.
Having said that, the Boers didn't murder children from airborne and
seaborne weapons platforms or fire white phosphorous into civilian targets,
nor allow infants to dehydrate to death beside the bodies of their murdered
mothers.

Israel - setting old standards in inhuman butchery.

How's winter setting in in Canada?

American Eagle

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Nov 9, 2009, 10:47:30 PM11/9/09
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The original Arab population in 1947 was 1.2 million with up to 600,000
incoming displaced European Jews. It was never intended to be a Jewish
only state. It is time to give the damned Jews the same crap as they
have foisted on America. I wonder how many multicultural centers there
are in TelAviv. All Holohoax Museums need to be converted to homeless
shelters and American taxpayer support converted to feeding the poor.
Can you believe that..We Gentiles have our hard earned taxpayer dollars
converted to subsidize Jewish Holocaust Museums? Jews of that ilk have
to be expelled from this great country. The Romans were right. The Jews
are nothing but mass murderers and thieves. Did the Roman Empire convert
to Judaism.. Hell no! They went with a religion that practiced charity,
peace and tolerance. That sure does not describe Judaism. It sure as
Hell was not Jews that formed the Great American dream of freedom and
self determination.
>

Grand Mal

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Nov 10, 2009, 1:51:26 AM11/10/09
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As usual in my part- rain, and more of it. I don't know the long-range
forecast but most hereabouts are hoping for lots of snow, on the mountains
anyway, to impress the television Olympic audience.
I had to look twice when I saw your nym in this thread to see if I was in
the group I thought I'd clicked on. It's odd where cross-posting leads you
sometimes- there's another here that I know from a hockey group. I got here
through misc.writing.


Just Me

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Nov 10, 2009, 2:31:07 AM11/10/09
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On Nov 9, 3:03 pm, "Grand Mal" <ironw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Just Me" <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> > You just get worse as you grow older.


>
> -You don't stop to think it might be going the other way? Quick! Take a
> -peek in your pants to see there's any safety pins or Snuggies in
> -sight.
>
> Keep your attentions outa my pants.

What? And just leave you there squalling and kicking and stinking
while you so badly need a change?

> > What do you figure will be the best
> > way to bring peace to the area, ethnic cleansing? Or should 10 million
> > people just shut up and do what their masters tell them to do?
>
> -They should stop acting like a bunch of scalp-hunting Comanches,
> -settle down, go back to their jobs, and sign up to become good Israeli
> -citizens. Otherwise they ain't nothing but a bunch of pride-crazy cry
> -babies.  What if our Navajos and Apaches were still carrying on like
> -those  spoiled brat Arabs?  And had the support of the UN and the
> -European Union?
>
> Good analogy. Let's recap what I remember of the American policy re. Native
> Indians...
> They are to meekly gather when rounded up and march to and live peacefully
> on the piece of land designated for them. If that piece of land becomes
> otherwise useful, they are to meekly gather again and move to somewhere
> else. If they resist they will be slaughtered, man, woman and child. There
> is no treaty with them or promise to them that's binding on the government.
> They will not be allowed to assimilate fully into society until they are so
> few that they are statistically insignifigant.

There. See? That right there is just what I mean when I say you must
have an open safety pin sticking in your bum, that you should be
kicking and howling, pissing and moaning so. I mean, I hear all that
kind of yowling, and all I can ask is "What is the point?" other than
what you've got from that sprung pin in your Snuggies.

What happened here between the Indians and the white man is what
happened, and I don't know that anyone can say it could have happened
in any way other than it did. And despite all the Canadian braggery
about how you've "never had any Indian Wars", well that's just bunk as
the infamous North-West Rebellion and the concurrent Cree uprising of
1885 is remembered, as both had arisen due to broken treaties, both
with the Métis and the Cree. So you ain't so damn holy.

It's hard to find a greater hypocrisy than for any white man living
anywhere in North America to be shitting his pants over the way he and
his forebears came to be living there, at the expense of some presumed
Aboriginal "ownership" of the land. Ain't no goddam such "ownership".
He who has the power to take it, gets it. And there's no way that this
entire hemisphere was going to be left by the civilized world in the
hands of savages, nor was there any way those savages were going to
sit peacefully by while the white man came in upon them. There was no
way to make them like it, and the only way was to make them get used
to it, until the day should finally come when they have to silently,
inwardly admit that they like it, the TV and the white man's booze,
the guns and horses, the rock n' roll and country music, not to
mention the Snuggies and the toilet paper.


> If you were Palestinian, would you have the option of settling down, going
> back to your job and becoming a good Israeli citizen? Does the government
> allow that?

But of course! There are Israeli/Arab members of the Knesset for the
crissake. See? You got all this howling passion and yet you don't
know what the hell you're howling about. There is only two things that
account for support of the "Palestinian" cause and those are . . .

1. Ignorance
2. Propaganda

Oh yes, and . . .

3. Naivety about the hard way things always have and always will be
found to work in this world.

john.ku...@sympatico.ca

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Nov 10, 2009, 6:28:41 AM11/10/09
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On Nov 9, 9:10 pm, "Fish Supper" <l...@sea.com> wrote:
> "Grand Mal" <ironw...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

my parts are warm but that could be just a front driven in by Ida down
south. East coast has snow already.

Fish Supper

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"Grand Mal" <iron...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Aye, it's me right enough.

And if you thought the OF ngs were wacky, you want to see this place -
totally mental. Rabid, crazed zionists, knuckle dragging neo-nazis, muslim
fundamentalists (although I suspect most of these are sock puppets). Pure
One Flew Over The Cuckoo's nest territory - one of the few the Israelis
haven't occupied ;)

Gary Renzetti

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Nov 10, 2009, 5:24:15 PM11/10/09
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Got a couple of those too, FishMan. You haven't met the entire crew yet.

Fish Supper

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"Gary Renzetti" <liz...@connection.com> wrote in message
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> Fish Supper wrote:
>>
>> "Grand Mal" <iron...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:O38Km.52208$PH1.38998@edtnps82...
>>>

>>>>


>>>> How's winter setting in in Canada?
>>>
>>> As usual in my part- rain, and more of it. I don't know the long-range
>>> forecast but most hereabouts are hoping for lots of snow, on the
>>> mountains anyway, to impress the television Olympic audience.
>>> I had to look twice when I saw your nym in this thread to see if I was
>>> in the group I thought I'd clicked on. It's odd where cross-posting
>>> leads you sometimes- there's another here that I know from a hockey
>>> group. I got here through misc.writing.
>>
>> Aye, it's me right enough.
>>
>> And if you thought the OF ngs were wacky, you want to see this place -
>> totally mental. Rabid, crazed zionists, knuckle dragging neo-nazis,
>> muslim fundamentalists (although I suspect most of these are sock
>> puppets). Pure One Flew Over The Cuckoo's nest territory - one of the few
>> the Israelis haven't occupied ;)
> Got a couple of those too, FishMan. You haven't met the entire crew yet.

You mean, like meeting the Adams Family only to be told, "hang on, there are
more to come"?

Just Me

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Nov 11, 2009, 1:51:13 AM11/11/09
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On Nov 9, 8:10 pm, "Fish Supper" <l...@sea.com> wrote:

> In the same way the Apartheid South Africans allowed blacks and coloureds to
> have full South African citizenship.

Total, rank, stinking to high heaven slander. In an era of peace,
before the Arab population of Israel got all stirred up and
radicalized by likes of Abbas coming back into the land with his PhD
in a Marxist "education" from a Soviet university, and the funds to
stir up jihad, Arabs lived and worked and voted side by side with Jews
all over the land.

> Having said that, the Boers didn't murder children from airborne and
> seaborne weapons platforms or fire white phosphorous into civilian targets,
> nor allow infants to dehydrate to death beside the bodies of their murdered
> mothers.

Dead WRONG. It is nothing except the rockets of Hezbollah and Hamas
by which they continually bring such calamity down upon their own
heads--and you know it, so why do you lie? Why? What's in it for ya,
Fish Face? Name one instance where white phosphorus was fired into
"civilian targets" when rockets were not first being fired from those
targets. Name ONE, you lying, fish-smelling, stink pot brat from the
Noam Chomsky brainwash water soup.


>
> Israel - setting old standards in inhuman butchery.

The "inhuman butchery" is all in your fishmouth, Mako-Face.

Most comical thing about these hatebag "Progressive Liberal" scum is
the way they are never honest with themselves enough to acknowledge
that there's nary a hair of daylight to be seen between their position
on Israel and that of any scum skinhead off the street.

They never stop and think, like, "Hmm . . . maybe there is no
difference?" Because I'll put you straight, right down in front,
baby. There ain't one thing any skinhead can say that can ever agree
with anything from me.

Something wrong with you, Jack, and that sho' enuf leaves you good for
nothin but your jive-ass namesake: food for the fishes.
--
--
JM

http://whosenose.blogspot.com/2008/03/blue-steel-jews.html


john.ku...@sympatico.ca

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Fish Supper

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"Just Me" <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 9, 8:10 pm, "Fish Supper" <l...@sea.com> wrote:

> In the same way the Apartheid South Africans allowed blacks and coloureds
> to
> have full South African citizenship.

Total, rank, stinking to high heaven slander. In an era of peace,
before the Arab population of Israel got all stirred up and
radicalized by likes of Abbas coming back into the land with his PhD
in a Marxist "education" from a Soviet university, and the funds to
stir up jihad, Arabs lived and worked and voted side by side with Jews
all over the land.

=======
Is it just me or can anyone else hear banjos plucking in the background,
while Jimmy Just Me Redneck here says: "we ain't hayd no trubble wit' our
niggers 'til thayt Martain Loothur King caym here wit' awl his fancy thawts
'bout freedom fur niggers n' stuff an' how they shud get a vote and human
raiyts. Them niggers wuz happy ti they gets all stirred up by the likes a'
Loothur King"

The only peace that has ever existed in occupied palestine is the serene
peace between your ears - where nothing happens.

> Having said that, the Boers didn't murder children from airborne and
> seaborne weapons platforms or fire white phosphorous into civilian
> targets,
> nor allow infants to dehydrate to death beside the bodies of their
> murdered
> mothers.

Dead WRONG. It is nothing except the rockets of Hezbollah and Hamas
by which they continually bring such calamity down upon their own
heads--and you know it, so why do you lie?

==============
you're a fool. Not one single Israeli has been killed by the rockets which
were used as a pretext the atrocity on Gaza - an atrocity that tooks months
of planning which was admitted by the Israelis themselves - which means they
were planning teh attack while the ceasefire with Hamas still held. True to
Israeli form, duplicitous, lying criminals.


Why? What's in it for ya,
Fish Face? Name one instance where white phosphorus was fired into
"civilian targets" when rockets were not first being fired from those
targets. Name ONE, you lying, fish-smelling, stink pot brat from the
Noam Chomsky brainwash water soup.

===============

1. ALL OF GAZA is a civilian target you muppet - it's the most densely
populated strip of earth in the world
2. The use of white phosphorous in any civilian area - or indeed against
enemy cmbatants - is outlawed under the Geneva Treaty and is consequently a
war crime.
3. I'll give you more than one example of its war crime:

1.
http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/03/25/israel-white-phosphorus-use-evidence-war-crimes -
by Human Rights Watch
"dozens of burnt felt wedges containing white phosphorus on city streets,
apartment roofs, residential courtyards, and at a United Nations school. "
One of the big Israeli lies was the claim that Hamas used UN schools to
store and fire weapons. The UN stated categorically that this did not
happen.


" said Fred Abrahams, senior emergencies researcher at Human Rights Watch
and co-author of the report. "It fired white phosphorus repeatedly over
densely populated areas, even when its troops weren't in the area and safer
smoke shells were available. As a result, civilians needlessly suffered and
died." (Abrahams? hmmm sounds like a lying Muslim extremist with a name like
that, if you ask me.)

2. http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0114/p07s01-wome.html - from The Christian
Science Monitor, that mouthpiece of left-wing socialist extremism and
supporter of islamic fundamentalism all over the world - not.
"Marc Garlasco has been on the northern border of Gaza for the past five
days watching what he says are white phosphorus munitions exploding over a
crowded refugee camp.
Mr. Garlasco, a senior military analyst for New York-based Human Rights
Watch (HRW), says that the way Israel is using the incendiary device is
illegal."


IDF Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi told Israel's Foreign Affairs and Defense
Committee on Tuesday in response to a query.
"The IDF [Israeli Defense Forces] acts only in accordance with what is
permitted by international law and does not use white phosphorus,"

But Garlasco says that phosphorus is clearly being used in the Jabaliya
refugee camp, one of the most crowded areas in Gaza.

"I can see them; we are very certain, whatever the Israeli Defense Forces
may say, that white phosphorus is being used. It was used by Israel in
Lebanon in 2006, but not until the population fled. In Gaza, the population
can't flee."


3.
http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/news/israeli-armys-use-white-phosphorus-gaza-clear-undeniable-20090119-
from those inveterate liars at Amnesty International:
"The Israeli army used white phosphorus, a weapon with a highly incendiary
effect, in densely populated civilian residential areas of Gaza City,
according to indisputable evidence found an Amnesty International
fact-finding team which reached the area last Saturday."
"such extensive use of this weapon in Gaza's densely populated residential
neighbourhoods is inherently indiscriminate. "Its repeated use in this
manner, despite evidence of its indiscriminate effects and its toll on
civilians, is a war crime," she said"


4.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/17/israel-gaza-phosphorus-civilians
- from one of the world's most respected independent newspapers:
Fresh evidence of the firing of white phosphorus weapons by Israeli forces
in Gaza has emerged from witnesses heard by the Guardian and first hand
accounts by human rights groups of their use against civilians.

Graphic descriptions of attacks by Israeli forces near the Gaza town of Khan
Younis are contained in footage shot by Fida Qishta for the International
Solidarity Movement and obtained by the Guardian.

A woman described how on Tuesday Israeli forces "started to fire phosphorus
bombs against the people, of course, they are civilians ..."

A man added: "A fire broke out and we have to leave out. Fires broke out on
the top of the houses. We all jumped out with our women and daughters put
off the fire. They were doing that, to help the special forces to occupy the
houses. after we put off the fires, they started to shoot towards us. Then
they started to raze the houses".

5.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5447590.ece -
Israel rains fire on Gaza with phosphorus shells

I could go on and on and on, but that's enough to prove you to be a liar as
well as an idiot. Now go and wipe the spittle from your keyboard.


Fish Supper

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On Nov 11, 1:51 am, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:


http://unrepentantoldhippie.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/wingnuts3.jpg

============

I doubt very much that he will follow or read your links, KC - and he
certainly won't *think* about them (lol, can you imagine this cretin
*thinking* about anything? The eyebrows draw together, the brow furrows, the
nose wrinkles, his little fists tighten and he focusses really, really hard
into infinite space and.......aaarghh, nope, can't do it) - but they are
really good, so keep 'em coming please.

Grand Mal

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"Just Me" <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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with the M�tis and the Cree. So you ain't so damn holy.
***************************************************************
Ohyeah, that was a terrible black eye in Canadian history. About 70 Native
people died, and 50 on the Gov't side.
I'm not alking about war, laddybuck, I'm talking about massacre. I'm talking
about slaughter of women and children by an army, deliberate genocide,
government-mandated ethnic cleansing. Don't fucking pretend you don't know
the difference.
*******************************************************************

It's hard to find a greater hypocrisy than for any white man living
anywhere in North America to be shitting his pants over the way he and
his forebears came to be living there, at the expense of some presumed
Aboriginal "ownership" of the land. Ain't no goddam such "ownership".
He who has the power to take it, gets it. And there's no way that this
entire hemisphere was going to be left by the civilized world in the
hands of savages, nor was there any way those savages were going to
sit peacefully by while the white man came in upon them. There was no
way to make them like it, and the only way was to make them get used
to it, until the day should finally come when they have to silently,
inwardly admit that they like it, the TV and the white man's booze,
the guns and horses, the rock n' roll and country music, not to
mention the Snuggies and the toilet paper.

*********************************************************************8
There's no way to know where to begin to rebut this load of crap. "He who
has the power to take it, gets it"? If you believe that, then your outrage
is abysmal hypocrisy. There's no morality but victory and the only sin is
failure.
As for your description of Natives and their culture, I freakin' give up.
Your schools must use Aryan Nations pastors for teachers and comic books for
texts. No way on this green earth did you get that attitude from anything
like independant research or personal experience.
****************************************************************************


> If you were Palestinian, would you have the option of settling down, going
> back to your job and becoming a good Israeli citizen? Does the government
> allow that?

But of course! There are Israeli/Arab members of the Knesset for the
crissake. See? You got all this howling passion and yet you don't
know what the hell you're howling about. There is only two things that
account for support of the "Palestinian" cause and those are . . .

*********************************************************************************
So Ahmed, who lives in Gaza, just has to walk up to the Israeli soldiers at
the checkpoint, tell them he wants to live in Israel, get a job and be a
citizen, and gates will open. That what you're saying?
*********************************************************************************

1. Ignorance
2. Propaganda

Oh yes, and . . .

3. Naivety about the hard way things always have and always will be
found to work in this world.

*********************************************************************************
Thanks for that, I love irony.
********************************************************************

Just Me

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On Nov 11, 6:56 am, "Fish Supper" <l...@sea.com> wrote:
> "Just Me" <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3af9fe0b-ffaf-4481...@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 9, 8:10 pm, "Fish Supper" <l...@sea.com> wrote:
>
> > In the same way the Apartheid South Africans allowed blacks and coloureds
> > to
> > have full South African citizenship.
>
> Total, rank, stinking to high heaven slander.  In an era of peace,
> before the Arab population of Israel got all stirred up and
> radicalized by likes of Abbas coming back into the land with his PhD
> in a Marxist "education" from a Soviet university, and the funds to
> stir up jihad, Arabs lived and worked and voted side by side with Jews
> all over the land.
>
> =======
> Is it just me or can anyone else hear banjos plucking in the background,
> while Jimmy Just Me Redneck here says: "we ain't hayd no trubble wit' our
> niggers 'til thayt Martain Loothur King caym here wit' awl his fancy thawts
> 'bout freedom fur niggers n' stuff an' how they shud get a vote and human
> raiyts. Them niggers wuz happy ti they gets all stirred up by the likes a'
> Loothur King"
>
> The only peace that has ever existed in occupied palestine is the serene
> peace between your ears - where nothing happens.

Nothing, in the immediate case, which is the null quantity of truth
coming in at the ears from Mr. Food for Fishes here. And NOTHING could
be so false as this totally mendacious analogy to redneck claims of
goodness and peace in the status quo for the American Negro--except
you were able to prove that Martin Luther King, like Abbas, was a
Soviet trained, Marxist insurgent incendiary working under direction
and funding of the USSR.

It's a pity Mr. Sushi-Face here was born too late to get a spot on Hee-
Haw, where he'd be wearing his bib overalls trying to hawk a rickety
contraption of a poor excuse for a "Model T" analogy like that behind
the placard that always bore the Shade-Tree Used Analogy Lot phone
number, "BR-549". Yeah! "Come on Down, Y'all."

Nor will the typical Lib-Prog frog-croak ploy of trying to disparage
the intelligence and learning of the opposition work in this case, as
he confuses the Leftist agit-prop slander of disinformation he studies
for an "education", that it should be a source, as such, for the
arrogant misconception that he's the one that "knows". Which is always
so funny!

No, even in the opposition Lib-Prog press, from time to time, by some
fluke a kernel of truth like some volcanically unstoppable zit pops
out and explodes most embarrassingly to the face that suffers it, with
a juicy spurt of truth. In the current New Yorker is the Lawrence
Wright article on Gaza and the Goldstone Report, "Captives" in which
the following item of reportage appears . . .

'I began to see Gaza as, I suspect, many Gazans do: a floating island,
a dystopian Atlantis, drifting farther away from contact with any
other society. Omar Shaban told me that, twenty years ago, he could
easily drive to Tel Aviv for dinner, and more than a hundred thousand
Palestinians travelled into Israel every day for work. “The
Palestinian economy was structured to work with the Israeli economy,”
he said. “Most Palestinians knew Hebrew. There were real friendships.”
Now, he said, “two-thirds of Gaza youth under thirty have never been
outside the Strip. How can they psychologically think of peace? You
can fight someone you don’t know, but you can’t make peace with him.”'

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/11/09/091109fa_fact_wright

Indeed, how can they "psychologically think of peace" when the
conditions under which they live are entirely the creation of their
own bloody rampages, prejudice and crazed jihadist aims? And make no
mistake about it! Before comrade Abbas and his Soviet trained cadres
came into the land, "jihad" was just another musty old word in a dusty
unopened Koran. This is why I always refer to Jihadism as the "Undead
Agenda of Zombie Marxist Revolution" still live and kicking--from the
mass graves of its countless victims.

Tonight, God forbid I should actually find the time to waste, I will
utterly refute these Lib-Prog Zombie Pink claims that it was Israel
who fired the first shot in the Gaza Offensive. And as to the slander
about white phosphorus? There remains so far as I've seen, NO
physical evidence to support that claim, vis a vis Gaza most
especially, but only line upon line of hearsay, so-called "eye-
witness" testimony.

But just say that there is some truth to it? Okay, maybe that would go
to explain why there is no longer anything like the daily incidence of
rocket fire from Gaza as there used to be? So, like, "if it works,
don't fix it?"

"Strike another match, go start anew." -- Bob Dylan

Keep on blowing up Jewish babies in Israel and you just may get what
you been bargaining for--in spades turning up dirt over Arab babies on
your side, Killer Fish.

And though there is every blind eye for an eye to justify it, still,
in view of the constant stream of lies these Lib-Prog frogs are always
croaking, and seeing how Israel did everything they humanly could to
avoid civilian casualties, by storms of of leaflets in the air to cell
phone calls, until we see physical evidence of white phosphorus I am
inclined to take it for just another acid rain of the usual Black
Lies.

So do tell, Sushi for Brains, how long you been wearing those cute
little swastika adorned lace panties under your Chairman Mao pants?
--
JM
http://whosenose.blogspot.com/2006_03_01_archive.html
http://whosenose.blogspot.com/2008/06/by-force-of-historical-necessity.html
http://whosenose.blogspot.com/2006_02_01_archive.html

> 1.http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/03/25/israel-white-phosphorus-use-evi...-


> by Human Rights Watch
> "dozens of burnt felt wedges containing white phosphorus on city streets,
> apartment roofs, residential courtyards, and at a United Nations school. "
> One of the big Israeli lies was the claim that Hamas used UN schools to
> store and fire weapons. The UN stated categorically that this did not
> happen.
>
> " said Fred Abrahams, senior emergencies researcher at Human Rights Watch
> and co-author of the report. "It fired white phosphorus repeatedly over
> densely populated areas, even when its troops weren't in the area and safer
> smoke shells were available. As a result, civilians needlessly suffered and
> died." (Abrahams? hmmm sounds like a lying Muslim extremist with a name like
> that, if you ask me.)
>

> 2.http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0114/p07s01-wome.html- from The Christian


> Science Monitor, that mouthpiece of left-wing socialist extremism and
> supporter of islamic fundamentalism all over the world - not.
> "Marc Garlasco has been on the northern border of Gaza for the past five
> days watching what he says are white phosphorus munitions exploding over a
> crowded refugee camp.
> Mr. Garlasco, a senior military analyst for New York-based Human Rights
> Watch (HRW), says that the way Israel is using the incendiary device is
> illegal."
>
> IDF Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi told Israel's Foreign Affairs and Defense
> Committee on Tuesday in response to a query.
> "The IDF [Israeli Defense Forces] acts only in accordance with what is
> permitted by international law and does not use white phosphorus,"
>
> But Garlasco says that phosphorus is clearly being used in the Jabaliya
> refugee camp, one of the most crowded areas in Gaza.
>
> "I can see them; we are very certain, whatever the Israeli Defense Forces
> may say, that white phosphorus is being used. It was used by Israel in
> Lebanon in 2006, but not until the population fled. In Gaza, the population
> can't flee."
>

> 3.http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/news/israeli-armys-use-whi...


> from those inveterate liars at Amnesty International:
> "The Israeli army used white phosphorus, a weapon with a highly incendiary
> effect, in densely populated civilian residential areas of Gaza City,
> according to indisputable evidence found an Amnesty International
> fact-finding team which reached the area last Saturday."
> "such extensive use of this weapon in Gaza's densely populated residential
> neighbourhoods is inherently indiscriminate. "Its repeated use in this
> manner, despite evidence of its indiscriminate effects and its toll on
> civilians, is a war crime," she said"
>

> 4.http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/17/israel-gaza-phosphorus-ci...


>  - from one of the world's most respected independent newspapers:
> Fresh evidence of the firing of white phosphorus weapons by Israeli forces
> in Gaza has emerged from witnesses heard by the Guardian and first hand
> accounts by human rights groups of their use against civilians.
>
> Graphic descriptions of attacks by Israeli forces near the Gaza town of Khan
> Younis are contained in footage shot by Fida Qishta for the International
> Solidarity Movement and obtained by the Guardian.
>
> A woman described how on Tuesday Israeli forces "started to fire phosphorus
> bombs against the people, of course, they are civilians ..."
>
> A man added: "A fire broke out and we have to leave out. Fires broke out on
> the top of the houses. We all jumped out with our women and daughters put
> off the fire. They were doing that, to help the special forces to occupy the
> houses. after we put off the fires, they started to shoot towards us. Then
> they started to raze the houses".
>

> 5.http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article544759...-

john.ku...@sympatico.ca

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> > by Human Rights Watch
> > "dozens of burnt felt wedges containing white phosphorus on city streets,
> > apartment roofs, residential courtyards, and at a United Nations school. "
> > One of the big Israeli lies was the claim that Hamas used UN schools to
> > store and fire weapons. The UN stated categorically that this did not
> > happen.
>
> > " said Fred Abrahams, senior emergencies researcher at Human Rights Watch
> > and co-author of the report. "It fired white phosphorus repeatedly over
> > densely populated areas, even when its troops weren't in the area and safer
> > smoke shells were available. As a result, civilians needlessly suffered and
> > died." (Abrahams? hmmm sounds like a lying Muslim extremist with a name like
> > that, if you ask me.)
>
> > 2.http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0114/p07s01-wome.html-from The Christian
> ...
>
> read more »

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Just Me

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On Nov 11, 1:47 pm, "Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx"
<john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> http://unrepentantoldhippie.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/wingnuts3.jpg

I really don't think you have any of those to spare, Koolchicki. Best
you should screw them back in before your brains fall out. Or right! I
see, yeah, they already did and that's why you got those all in a pile
to show off on the Internet like that? Very impressive.

But, if that's the best you can do by way of trying to refute an
argument, cool. It's both easy and cheap--not to mention greasy. All
of 50 cents at Lowe's, maybe?

Fish Supper

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On Nov 11, 6:56 am, "Fish Supper" <l...@sea.com> wrote:
> "Just Me" <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3af9fe0b-ffaf-4481...@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 9, 8:10 pm, "Fish Supper" <l...@sea.com> wrote:
>
> > In the same way the Apartheid South Africans allowed blacks and
> > coloureds
> > to
> > have full South African citizenship.
>
> Total, rank, stinking to high heaven slander. In an era of peace,
> before the Arab population of Israel got all stirred up and
> radicalized by likes of Abbas coming back into the land with his PhD
> in a Marxist "education" from a Soviet university, and the funds to
> stir up jihad, Arabs lived and worked and voted side by side with Jews
> all over the land.
>
> =======
> Is it just me or can anyone else hear banjos plucking in the background,
> while Jimmy Just Me Redneck here says: "we ain't hayd no trubble wit' our
> niggers 'til thayt Martain Loothur King caym here wit' awl his fancy
> thawts
> 'bout freedom fur niggers n' stuff an' how they shud get a vote and human
> raiyts. Them niggers wuz happy ti they gets all stirred up by the likes a'
> Loothur King"
>
> The only peace that has ever existed in occupied palestine is the serene
> peace between your ears - where nothing happens.

And as to the slander


about white phosphorus? There remains so far as I've seen, NO
physical evidence to support that claim, vis a vis Gaza most
especially, but only line upon line of hearsay, so-called "eye-
witness" testimony.

=========

You are utterly insane.

Amnesty International, the Red Cross, Human Rights Watch and eye-witnesses
too many to count, photographic evidence, video evidence, live televison
pictures of the phosphorous being used, reports from journalists, aid
workers, foreign doctors and even remains of the shells which carried the
phosphorous, all go to PROVE israeli use of white phosphorous - but that's
not enough evidence for you. You're hunkered down in the corner with your
fingers stuck firmly in your ears repeating no, no, no over and over to
yourself.

You are a charicatur of the type of rabid zionist fanatic the caues the rest
of the civilised world to detest Israel.

Get help

Just Me

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On Nov 11, 5:31 pm, "Fish Supper" <l...@sea.com> wrote:

> And as to the slander
> about white phosphorus?  There remains so far as I've seen, NO
> physical evidence to support that claim, vis a vis Gaza most
> especially, but only line upon line of hearsay, so-called "eye-
> witness" testimony.
>
> =========
>
> You are utterly insane.

Heh. That's what I call a well-reasoned argument, Mako-Face. Just
scream the first imprecation that comes to mind. That ought to work,
where intelligence, fact and logic fail.

>
> Amnesty International, the Red Cross, Human Rights Watch and eye-witnesses
> too many to count, photographic evidence, video evidence, live televison
> pictures of the phosphorous being used, reports from journalists, aid
> workers, foreign doctors and even remains of the shells which carried the
> phosphorous, all go to PROVE israeli use of white phosphorous - but that's
> not enough evidence for you. You're hunkered down in the corner with your
> fingers stuck firmly in your ears repeating no, no, no over and over to
> yourself.
>
> You are a charicatur of the type of rabid zionist fanatic the caues the rest
> of the civilised world to detest Israel.
>
> Get help

Help! I neeeeed somebody,
Help! Not just anybody,
Help! I neeeed someone,
Heeeeelp ME!

The common understanding of what's "insane" is where you won't accept
the reality of what's before you, so you sort of go around snipping
everything until you're the only one talking, or screaming more like--
to yourself . . .

> Amnesty International, the Red Cross, Human Rights Watch and eye-witnesses
> too many to count, photographic evidence, video evidence, live televison
> pictures of the phosphorous being used, reports from journalists, aid
> workers, foreign doctors and even remains of the shells which carried the
> phosphorous, all go to PROVE israeli use of white phosphorous - but that's
> not enough evidence for you. You're hunkered down in the corner with your
> fingers stuck firmly in your ears repeating no, no, no over and over to
> yourself.

There you go again editing, cropping and snipping your reality as
suits your slippery, slimy fish-eye view, so that you can reply to
something entirely other than what was at point. But I won't be
aggravated into repeating myself just to suit your tricks. There are
documented cases on record of journalists doctoring photographs,
adding all kind of smoke where there was little, to prove the
"enormity" of some event. Anybody can plant a shell casing containing
traces of whatever the fuck it is you want it to be. And the hearsay
testimony of all those Lib-Prog organizations of bleeding Red hearts
("Cross" or otherwise) isn't worth spit in a court of law. But didn't
I hold open the outside possibility that maybe my skepticism is not
justified? Yes I did. Go back and for once reply to what is really
being said, not to what you want to doctor as fake "evidence" from it.

Now go sleep with Luca Brasi and be food for the fishes, Mr. "Fish
Dinner".

Ha-haaaaaaaaa! "Fish Dinner".

If it fits, wear it!

If it works, don't fish it!

john.ku...@sympatico.ca

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Just Me

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Observe! It is the same source, the same blowfish lips burbling of
Israeli "white phosphorus" bombs as the slimy thing sits there bottom-
feeding before God and everybody trying to put this one over . . .

On Nov 11, 6:56 am, "Fish Supper" <l...@sea.com> wrote:

> ==============
> you're a fool. Not one single Israeli has been killed by the rockets which

> were used as a pretext the atrocity on Gaza.

See that? Now see this . . .

"Since 2000, 19 people have been killed by Palestinian terrorist-
launched rocket fire and another 18 were killed by mortar fire."
-- http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/Gazaincursion.html

Won't stoop to take the Jew's word for it, there, Barracuda Brains?
Then have yourself a Google on the terms [israelis killed rockets] --
here's what you get . . .

"Results 1 - 10 of about 1,480,000 for Israelis killed rockets. (0.32
seconds)"
-- http://tinyurl.com/yexqknx

Still not good enough for ya? Click that Wiki link and have a little
sprinkle of this in your tank, Guppy-Face . . .

September 24, 2004
Settler Tiferet Tratner, 24, of Neve Dekalim, was killed in her home
by a mortar (weapon) attack on the Gush Katif settlement bloc built in
Gaza[4]

September 29, 2004
On the eve of the Sukkot holiday, Yuval Abebeh, 4, and Dorit Benisian,
2, were killed by a Qassam rocket (one of three) fired from Gaza into
Sderot. About 30 people were wounded in the attack, for which Hamas
claimed responsibility.

October 28, 2004
Israeli army Sgt. Michael Chizik, 21, of Tiberias, was killed when a
mortar shell landed in the settlement of Morag in the Gaza Strip.[4]

January 5, 2005
Nissim Arbiv, 26, of Nissanit, was severely injured by a mortar shell
in the Erez industrial zone. He died from his injuries ten days later.
[4]

January 15, 2005
A Qassam rocket attack on Sderot left Ayala Abukasis, 17, brain dead.
She died on January 21.

February 9, 2005
A barrage of 25 to 50 Qassam rockets and mortar shells hit Neve
Dekalim settlement, and another barrage hit at noon. Hamas said it was
in retaliation for an attack in which one Palestinian was killed near
an Israeli settlement.[5]

June 7, 2005
Two Palestinian workers, Salah Ayash Imran, 57, Muhammed Mahmoud
Jaroun, and a foreign worker Bi Shude, 46, were killed, and five other
workers were wounded, when a Qassam rocket hit a packing shed in Ganei
Tal, in the Gaza Strip. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for
the attack.[6]

July 14, 2005
Dana Galkowicz, 22, was killed in a Qassam attack in the Kibbutz Netiv
Ha'asara, just north of the Gaza Strip. Hamas, Islamic Jihad Movement
in Palestine and Fatah all claimed responsibility for the attack.[7]

September 24, 2005
Five Israelis were injured when Palestinian militants launched about
30 rockets on Israeli communities from the Gaza Strip. This attack
followed an incident the previous day, in which 20 Palestinians,
including 16 civilians, were killed when a vehicle carrying Qassam
rockets exploded during a Hamas rally in Jabalya. The exact
circumstances surrounding the incident are still unknown. To date, no
evidence has been found to substantiate Hamas’ claim that Israeli
interference was responsible for the accident.[8]
--

Now this is the same so-called "human" handful of Lib-Prog slime that
expects to be taken at his word when he say . . .

> you're a fool. Not one single Israeli has been killed by the rockets which

> were used as a pretext the atrocity on Gaza.

Yeah, we see who's the "fool" alright. Now just watch as in typical
style he tries to slip out of the grip of truth to say that he only
meant to speak of rocket killed Israelis in the days directly
preceding the launch of Operation Cast Lead? Think we'll get to see a
fish dance like that? As if the first rocket-killed Israeli, 28 June
2004 was not provocation enough to level the entire Gaza Strip to dust
and blood and fish guts, thus to be done with the messy business for
once and for all?

And why, why, why? Wouldn't you ask, doesn't the IDF just get busy and
do that? Because they are the IDF and not Hamas. They are Israelis and
not "Palestinians". They are Jews not Muslims. The are civilized
people, not savages.

> an atrocity that tooks months

In the sight of such a one, any attempt by an Israeli (read "Jew") at
self-defense is "an atrocity".

It is fine for the Palestinian to defend himself by randomly rocketing
defenseless Jewish children, but not for the Jew, no matter the
lengths the IDF will go to target only the adult male killers they are
after. No right of self-defense should be seen as appropriate to the
Jew. Now that's the way Mr. Fishguts for a brain looks at it. And
there's something in the soul of a civilized man that gets just blind
pissed to think of anything so cold-blooded and strictly from the
heart of a fish, as that.

But does he not call himself "Fish Dinner"?

He knows what he's good for, if only unconsciously. It is at the
outlet of the sewers where the fish grow fattest on their "Fish
Dinner".

Fish Supper

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Don't know about you Mal, but I've just replied the this freak in another
post and I feel I need to go and have a shower now.

Fish Supper

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"Just Me" <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Observe! It is the same source, the same blowfish lips burbling of
Israeli "white phosphorus" bombs as the slimy thing sits there bottom-
feeding before God and everybody trying to put this one over . . .

On Nov 11, 6:56 am, "Fish Supper" <l...@sea.com> wrote:

> you're a fool. Not one single Israeli has been killed by the rockets which
> were used as a pretext the atrocity on Gaza.

Yeah, we see who's the "fool" alright. Now just watch as in typical
style he tries to slip out of the grip of truth to say that he only
meant to speak of rocket killed Israelis in the days directly
preceding the launch of Operation Cast Lead?

==========

*Not one single Israeli has been killed by the rockets which were used as a
pretext the atrocity on Gaza.*

slip out of what? I cannot state any more clearly *by the rockets which were
used as a pretext the atrocity on Gaza*.

I thought it would be clear enough for even you to understand? Obviously
not. Maybe you were unable to read it through your spittle covered computer
screen?


> an atrocity that tooks months

In the sight of such a one, any attempt by an Israeli (read "Jew") at
self-defense is "an atrocity".

================

and here it is. It's nevere too far away is it? Vermin like you desperately
attempt to link Israel and Judaism until they are inextricable and then when
any criticism of Israel is levied, you construe that as anti-semitism.

So, no - rather than say " an Israeli (read "jew") ", I wouldprefer to say
"an israeli (read "fascist cunt")"


It is fine for the Palestinian to defend himself by randomly rocketing

defenseless Jewish children, ...
============

"The Paelstinian"? Hmmm, that reminds of something, now what was it again?
Ah, yes I remember now. Nazi propaganda which used to speak of "Der Jude" -
it's all part of the fascist, extremist mindset which seeks to dehumanise an
entire people by seeing them as one, vile, easily caricatured entity.

You're the type who would happily be wearing a swastika if you weren't
Jewish.


john.ku...@sympatico.ca

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=======

Unfortunately, this is the inevitable result of a society born and steeped
in hatred. It provides a perfect breeding ground for psychotics and
criminals and its dehumanisation of its victims and its self-agrandisement
as the home of the master race is a prime factor in this.

Teitel wasn't the first and won't be the last - in fact, the only really
unusual thing about him is that he wasn't wearing an IDF uniform. If he had
been, he would literally have got away with murder, like so many of them.

Just Me

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On Nov 12, 5:38 am, "Fish Supper" <l...@sea.com> wrote:
> "Just Me" <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> Yeah, we see who's the "fool" alright.  Now just watch as in typical


> style he tries to slip out of the grip of truth to say that he only
> meant to speak of rocket killed Israelis in the days directly
> preceding the launch of Operation Cast Lead?
>
> ==========
>
> *Not one single Israeli has been killed by the rockets which were used as a
> pretext the atrocity on Gaza.*
>
> slip out of what? I cannot state any more clearly *by the rockets which were
> used as a pretext the atrocity on Gaza*.
>
> I thought it would be clear enough for even you to understand?

But there are some statements too irrational and mendacious for any
sane, rational or moral mind to "understand". Perhaps the cordial and
sensitive thing for me would be to go crazy with you in order that I
might understand? Sorry. There are limits. But if what you say may be
untangled for the mess of fish guts it is, then it should become plain
to see that . . .

1. You do not deny by your statement that Palestinian rockets were
fired into Israel in the days directly preceding the Israeli
offensive, but it is only to express your disappointment over your bum
luck that no Israeli Jewish children were blown to bloody bits, as
intended, by your Palestinian rockets.

2. You try to get away with leaving the impression that invading
another country by air, attacking its peace, safety and sovereignty by
rocket fire is a "pretext"??? This, rather than a prompt and proper
retaliation.

3. You try to construct the irrational premise that because the effect
of those most recent rockets was not lethal as intended, this is as if
to erase the reality of those that were so, previously, and that it is
not lethality which is at issue, but the time at which the rocket is
fired! As if time should heal all mortal wounds?

No. The time for retaliation is in the hands of the retaliator, and it
will come at such a time as he is good and ready to give you the ass-
kicking you had coming, whether it be today, tomorrow or ten years
from now.

> Obviously
> not. Maybe you were unable to read it through your spittle covered computer
> screen?

Who knew there was a way to digitize spittle and send it from his
angry little key taps to my screen? Good he should mention it so I can
put away the Windex.

>
> > an atrocity that tooks months
>
> In the sight of such a one, any attempt by an Israeli (read "Jew") at
> self-defense is "an atrocity".
>
> ================
>
> and here it is. It's nevere too far away is it?

The truth? No, never.

> Vermin like you

Read "Jew" (or "Christian" -- whatever works)

> desperately
> attempt to link Israel and Judaism

Is that funny? How could anyone "link" Israel to Judaism?

> until they are inextricable

As they are, were from the beginning and ever shall be. The time for
pulling off that parsing of distinctions is OVER.

> and then when
> any criticism of Israel is levied, you construe that as anti-semitism.

Nothing is construed outside the machinations of your own unrecognized
pathological need for a politically correct Jew surrogate, Mr. Fascist
Dinner.

>
> So, no - rather than say " an Israeli (read "jew") ", I wouldprefer to say
> "an israeli (read "fascist cunt")"
>
> It is fine for the Palestinian to defend himself by randomly rocketing
> defenseless Jewish children, ...
> ============
>
> "The Paelstinian"? Hmmm, that reminds of something, now what was it again?
> Ah, yes I remember now. Nazi propaganda which used to speak of "Der Jude" -

> it's all part of the fascist, extremist mindset which seeks to dehumanise an
> entire people by seeing them as one, vile, easily caricatured entity.

Well, if that doesn't clinch it, nothing will! I say . . .

> It is fine for the Palestinian to defend himself by randomly rocketing
> defenseless Jewish children, ...

And he says . . .

> "The Paelstinian"?

Migod! A complete flight from reality. It was not a "Palestinian" who
blew himself up in the presence of Jewish babies in the Tel Aviv cafe?
Or who rockets from Gaza indiscriminately to the same effect? No!
Quite to the contrary, it is not the "Palestinian" it is . . .

> all part of the fascist, extremist mindset which seeks to dehumanise an
> entire people by seeing them as one, vile, easily caricatured entity.

In Israel, there are many Arab Israelis and Druze who are NOT called
"Palestinian" but "Israelis". There is no so-called "Palestinian" that
may be considered anything other than an enemy of every Arab and
Jewish Israeli. The entire "Palestinian People" are one, as the
people of Hitler's Germany were "one" so long as they remained
beneficiary to the policies of Hitler. So it goes most especially for
all Palestinians and most especially that Gaza majority who voted
Hamas in the last election. They voted for the killer swine, they ARE
the killer swine.

And now what do we get from Mr. Fascist Dinner?

> You're the type who would happily be wearing a swastika if you weren't
> Jewish.

I am not Jewish, but I would happily don a bright blue Magen David and
wear it proudly while I went about the business of feeding a Fish
Dinner like you to the fishes--to the Christians, for whom the Fish is
their sacred symbol; let them take you out to a dinner of Christ's
blood, lay hands on you, and pray over you, till the demons come
blowing out your ass in a big green plume; all this antisemitic pro-
Palestinian spew, to be finally seen by you for what it really is.
Nothing but a bunch of toxic fart gas that somehow got re-channeled to
your throat from your ass.

john.ku...@sympatico.ca

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Just Me

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> http://www.usifaz.com/Web%20Site%20Pics/Screws/forged%20wing%20nut%20...

There he is -- K0OKchik in his brass Mickey Mouse Club cap. Kinda
cute!

john.ku...@sympatico.ca

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"I am not Jewish"

So you're a pozer then.

Fish Supper

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On Nov 12, 5:38 am, "Fish Supper" <l...@sea.com> wrote:
> "Just Me" <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> Yeah, we see who's the "fool" alright. Now just watch as in typical
> style he tries to slip out of the grip of truth to say that he only
> meant to speak of rocket killed Israelis in the days directly
> preceding the launch of Operation Cast Lead?
>
> ==========
>
> *Not one single Israeli has been killed by the rockets which were used as
> a
> pretext the atrocity on Gaza.*
>
> slip out of what? I cannot state any more clearly *by the rockets which
> were
> used as a pretext the atrocity on Gaza*.
>
> I thought it would be clear enough for even you to understand?

But there are some statements too irrational and mendacious for any
sane, rational or moral mind to "understand". Perhaps the cordial and
sensitive thing for me would be to go crazy with you in order that I
might understand? Sorry. There are limits. But if what you say may be
untangled for the mess of fish guts it is, then it should become plain
to see that . . .

1. You do not deny by your statement that Palestinian rockets were
fired into Israel in the days directly preceding the Israeli
offensive,

***
a handful, which did no damage The rockets were launched as part of the war
against Israel which Israel restarted by calling off the ceasefire. The
Palestinians have every right to fight the illegal occupiers of their land.
This handful of rockets was used as a pretext by the lying Zionists for
launching an attack when they calculated they could get away with it.
Murdering scum.
***

but it is only to express your disappointment over your bum
luck that no Israeli Jewish children were blown to bloody bits, as
intended, by your Palestinian rockets.

***
More lies. I said no such thing. It's instructive that you have to make up
lies to argue your case
***

2. You try to get away with leaving the impression that invading
another country by air, attacking its peace, safety and sovereignty by
rocket fire is a "pretext"??? This, rather than a prompt and proper
retaliation.

***
correct those who invade a country should be fought until they leave that
country.
Retaliation for that invasion is justified at any time, anywhere
***

3. You try to construct the irrational premise that because the effect
of those most recent rockets was not lethal as intended, this is as if
to erase the reality of those that were so, previously, and that it is
not lethality which is at issue, but the time at which the rocket is
fired! As if time should heal all mortal wounds?

***
when the result is the murder of 1300 civilians, most of them women and
children then how lethal the initial rockets were is very much in question.
***

No. The time for retaliation is in the hands of the retaliator, and it
will come at such a time as he is good and ready to give you the ass-
kicking you had coming, whether it be today, tomorrow or ten years
from now.

***
as you will find out when Israel pays for its crimes
***


> So, no - rather than say " an Israeli (read "jew") ", I wouldprefer to say
> "an israeli (read "fascist cunt")"
>
> It is fine for the Palestinian to defend himself by randomly rocketing
> defenseless Jewish children, ...
> ============
>
> "The Paelstinian"? Hmmm, that reminds of something, now what was it again?
> Ah, yes I remember now. Nazi propaganda which used to speak of "Der
> Jude" -

Migod! A complete flight from reality. It was not a "Palestinian" who
blew himself up in the presence of Jewish babies in the Tel Aviv cafe?


***
Is English your first language? Are you aware of the difference between
definite and indefinite articles? Do I have to explain the rudiments of
grammar as well as history and law?
***

Or who rockets from Gaza indiscriminately to the same effect? No!
Quite to the contrary, it is not the "Palestinian" it is . . .

> all part of the fascist, extremist mindset which seeks to dehumanise an
> entire people by seeing them as one, vile, easily caricatured entity.

In Israel, there are many Arab Israelis and Druze who are NOT called
"Palestinian" but "Israelis".

***
not by the Israelis - who call them 'Arabs', who discriminate against them
and deny them full rights of citizenship
***

So it goes most especially for
all Palestinians and most especially that Gaza majority who voted
Hamas in the last election. They voted for the killer swine, they ARE
the killer swine.

***
The biggest and most vicious killers are in the uniform of the IDF - the
world knows it.
***

> You're the type who would happily be wearing a swastika if you weren't
> Jewish.

I am not Jewish,

***
another lie. Why deny your judaism? Are you ashamed to link your religion to
the cause you support?

Just Me

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On Nov 12, 5:30 pm, "Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx"

Pozer schmozer. Now you pretend not to know that having a Jewish
father does not make a person Jewish? You know that, you've long
known that. My mother was a Scot. Sadly, I don't qualify.

Now put on your brass Mickey Mouse Club cap and go screw yourself into
a corner.
--
JM
http://jpdavid.blogspot.com/
http://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
http://vignettes-mackie.blogspot.com/

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Well if that's the case, I suppose the criteria is that way because
only your mother would know who really was your father.

I've never said Jews were stupid.

Your poor mother.

To have to bare you and then have to bare the guilt that you've heaped
upon her for not making you a Jew.

Here: this may be more fitting for your age:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1072/525314872_bb241e1e8f_o.jpg

Just Me

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> To have to bare you and then have to bare . . .

You figure you got the right "bare" there, K00KChik? Best you should
check that out before you em-bear-ass yourself further. As a person's
command of spelling is a direct reflection of how much time he spends
with books, then surely this will result in his getting more things
than just spelling wrong. Just so, your utterly ignorant position on
Israel loudly proclaims it: you don't know the first part of what
you're always barking about, any more than you know that a mother
*bears* a child, not "bares" it, unless she's changing its diapers.
All you know is what comes into your ears and eyes from ignoramuses
just like you in the tv press, a good many of whom probably can't
spell either.

Swell of you to come in here today bearing the truth about the kind of
bare-ass dummy in diapters it takes to swallow a lot of LibProg
agitprop disinformation about Israel and Palestine, and take the sort
of position you take. Finally! K00Kchiki BARES ALL.

Fucking dimwits on wheels.

john.ku...@sympatico.ca

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> JMhttp://jpdavid.blogspot.com/http://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.comhttp://vignettes-mackie.blogspot.com/

Well if that's the case, I suppose the criteria is that way because
only your mother would know who really was your father.

I've never said Jews were stupid.

Your poor mother.

To have to bear you and then have to bear the guilt that you've heaped

Grand Mal

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**************************************************************
Diapters? Do they kind of magnify the crap?


Fish Supper

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***
your mother was a scot?

For the first time I'm ashamed of my nationality - how could one of us
produce one of you?


Fish Supper

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"Koolc...@smurfsareus.xxx" <john.ku...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Your poor mother.

****

I have no sympathy for the woman - she had the chance to stay in Scotland
and produce a decent human being. Instead, she blew it, and look what we've
been left with. I feel kinda sorry for JM; he's a twat of limited
intelligence and no humanity - but his mother had the chance that her
birthright gave her and should have known better.

Hell mend her and God forgive her for what she's left us with.

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