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Carradine -- Born to Eternity in Fishnets and a Wig?

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Just Me

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Oct 5, 2009, 1:31:27 AM10/5/09
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Not. It's a lot of bunk. One look at the infamous "Death
Photo" . . .

http://tinyurl.com/ycf3pow

. . . and the alleged "fish-net stockings" are revealed for nothing
but hatch-marks used to retouch the photo for publication. So it goes
also by the look of it, for the so-called wig which is probably just a
black blot to hide his identity. Not that you'd expect such a
sensibility for propriety from Bangkok of all places, but that's how
it looks from here.

Carradine was an actor of such extraordinary competence that it was
like losing Woody Guthrie all over again--only Carradine was not
Woody, not at all the character you may recall with much affection
from his performance in "Born to Win". This you learn by checking out
some of the many interviews with the actor to be found on YouTube.
Woody was Woody, and David Carradine was--who knows what? A damn fine
actor that he could cover such a weirdness of personality that was
him, really him, off the sound stage.

Take away the photographic retouching from that Bankok tabloid photo
and that is David Carradine in character as David Carradine, just
doing his usual risky auto-erotic thing-- which is what? Some kind of
ritual self-flagellation he regularly indulged to atone for yet
another wild and sexy night of doing his Kung Fu moves in scarlet
women's underwear --- if indeed that is a neat little stack of red
ladies lingerie folded so nicely on the bed, and not his Karate black
belt.

Damn tough thing though, to see someone so admirably talented and
accomplished in his field appearing for his curtain call, to last in
the memory of all, like that. How much nicer if only we could
remember him all shot to shit and bleeding a crimson river as "Cole
Younger" in *The Long Riders*; David Carradine the very epitome of a
wry coolness that was all his own, not even to be surpassed by the
likes of Dean and Brando.
--
JM http://whosenose.blogspot.com
http://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com

william

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Oct 5, 2009, 10:39:46 AM10/5/09
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On Oct 5, 1:31 am, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Carradine was an actor of such extraordinary competence that it was
> like losing Woody Guthrie all over again--only Carradine was not
> Woody, not at all the character you may recall with much affection
> from his performance in "Born to Win".  >

The film was "Bound for Glory" that starred Carradine as Woody
Guthrie. I'm sure your affection might be affectation.

William
www.williamahearn.com

Tom

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Oct 5, 2009, 11:33:52 AM10/5/09
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It was on TCM last week.

What a good movie.

Tom

william

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Oct 5, 2009, 11:45:08 AM10/5/09
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On Oct 5, 11:33 am, Tom <drso...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > The film was "Bound for Glory" that starred Carradine as Woody
> > Guthrie. I'm sure your affection might be affectation.
> >
> It was on TCM last week.
>
> What a good movie.
>
For some movie trivia, it was the first use of the SteadiCam. Haskell
Wexler won an Oscar for cinematography. Or so the story goes . . .

William
www.williamahearn.com

Stratum101

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Oct 5, 2009, 12:29:19 PM10/5/09
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On Oct 5, 9:39 am, william <wlahe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> [JPD's comments re:David Carradine]

> The film was "Bound for Glory" that starred Carradine as Woody
> Guthrie. I'm sure your affection might be affectation.
>

Zing. But I've stopped needling him. He puts
considerable effort into what he creates. The
presentation is not bad at all. (Have a look
at his blogs.) I decided it is evil of me to
attack one man's occasional lapses
of genius, and occasional lapses.

If you want to see a true collection of
idiots, look at another place where I post,
ba.broadcast. This group is
frequented by people in San Francisco
radio, particularly one station, KGO
which is heard up and down the West
Coast. There is not a book-reader
in the group, and these dullards
are the very people who "program" their
listening public.

I liked your "Marlowe on Film" better
than I like Raymond Chandler. I'm
*from* Noir City. It gets dark there
every night just like Dallas or
Indianapolis. But I will say
Los Angeles cinema is pretty damned
good if only for its variety.


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Just Me

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Oct 5, 2009, 12:43:50 PM10/5/09
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On Oct 5, 9:39 am, william <wlahe...@gmail.com> wrote:

"Born to Win" is the title for a collection of Woody's writings.

http://www.amazon.com/Born-Win-Woody-Guthrie/dp/0020606907

So what does a happy little mix-up of titles that that expose about
the ignorance of a total asshole like this?

Can you imagine the kind of mentality it takes to go around holding
the affections of another person suspect? I wonder what's got his
scarlet lingerie all in a twist?

http://jpdavid.blogspot.com/

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> Williamwww.williamahearn.com

william

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Oct 5, 2009, 12:51:58 PM10/5/09
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On Oct 5, 12:29 pm, Stratum101 <j.coll...@cross-comp.com> wrote:
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> I liked your "Marlowe on Film" better
> than I like Raymond Chandler.  I'm
> *from* Noir City.  It gets dark there
> every night just like Dallas or
> Indianapolis.  But I will say
> Los Angeles cinema is pretty damned
> good if only for its variety.
>
Thank you for taking the time to read it. In another two weeks or so,
"The Death of Film Noir" parts II & III will be up. You may or may not
get a kick out of it. Me, I like those crime films -- and the original
French flicks -- but I think the theory is nonsense.

William
www.williamahearn.com

Just Me

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Oct 5, 2009, 1:42:22 PM10/5/09
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On Oct 5, 11:29 am, Stratum101 <j.coll...@cross-comp.com> wrote:
> On Oct 5, 9:39 am, william <wlahe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > [JPD's comments re:David Carradine]
> > The film was "Bound for Glory" that starred Carradine as Woody
> > Guthrie. I'm sure your affection might be affectation.
>
> Zing.  But I've stopped needling him.  He puts
> considerable effort into what he creates.  The
> presentation is not bad at all.  (Have a look
> at his blogs.)  I decided it is evil of me to
> attack one man's occasional lapses
> of genius, and occasional lapses.

Heh. Well, I suppose the same should go for William, that I should
not get so pissed about such a petty thing as that, especially with
one of our own Hollywoodland homeboys. So. you're NOT a Chandler fan?
--
JM

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Oct 5, 2009, 2:07:20 PM10/5/09
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On Oct 4, 10:31 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not.  It's a lot of bunk.  One look at the infamous "Death
> Photo" . . .
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ycf3pow
>
> . . . and the alleged "fish-net stockings" are revealed for nothing
> but hatch-marks used to retouch the photo for publication.

I think that's a posed photo, and not Carridine at all. That person is
no taller than an average Thai, and has black hair, where Carradine's
is mostly white or iron-gray. An earlier photo, without body, that I
saw showed a closet with a door on it. Tabloids are the same
everywhere. Maybe more the same in some places.

DB

Stratum101

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Oct 5, 2009, 4:09:42 PM10/5/09
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Not since about 1970.

One novellist I've never read is A. S. Byatt who was on the
Diane Rehm Show this morning. She's hot because
she's short-listed for a second Booker. I've had _The
Biographer's Tale_ sitting on the shelf for a couple
of years.

She's on my short list as soon as I
finish two biographies of that exciting man,
Dwight David Eisenhower. One is _Ike:
An American Hero_ by Michael Korda
which concentrates mainly on his role
in the Second World War and gives only
scanty coverage to his two terms as prez;
the other is the single volume abridgement
of Stephen Ambroses two-volume
_Eisenhower: Soldier and President_,
which whizzes through WWII and
all that.

(I'm reading Korda first, and cross
checking occasionally with
Ambrose.)

Meanwhile, I'm off to San Francisco.


Just Me

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Oct 6, 2009, 12:30:39 AM10/6/09
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Whoosh! Oh well, too bad. Might have been good to get into some talk
about tonight's PBS documentary on the L.A. Times Otis/Chandler
dynasty. Hell of a story. They had the soundtrack from Chinatown going
on behind some of it. About the only thing they didn't have was James
Ellroy's fever-brained theory about some scion of the Chandler family
being the back-story behind the Black Dahlia murder. Or am I getting
Ellroy mixed up with Donald Wolfe (The Black Dahlia Files) on that?
Seems to me they both saw some kind of connection in the Chandler
direction. Won't they all be surprised and ashamed when the truth
comes out that it was Betty Short's main rival, Glinda the Good Witch
of the North who done it? Some fingers had been pointed at the Mayor
of Munchkinland, but I never gave it a moment's credence--and I never
will. Though I got to recommend Ellroy's memoir, "My Dark Places" as
being second only to the confessions of Bukowski when it comes to a
super loose and juicy celebration of degradation in high L.A.
style . . .

http://tinyurl.com/ycc35c3
--
JM
http://jpdavid.blogspot.com/
http://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
http://vignettes-mackie.blogspot.com/

william

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Oct 6, 2009, 12:45:06 AM10/6/09
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On Oct 6, 12:30 am, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:

About the only thing they didn't have was James
> Ellroy's fever-brained theory about some scion of the Chandler family
> being the back-story behind the Black Dahlia murder. Or am I getting
> Ellroy mixed up with Donald Wolfe (The Black Dahlia Files) on that?

What difference does it make really? I hated Ellroy's novel. A rip off
of True Confessions and another needless pissing on Smart's grave. My
favorite theory about the Black Dahlia is the book that states that
Orson Welles was the killer. I'm not kidding.

http://www.bethshort.com/bd/2006/09/15/orson-welles/

William
www.williamahearn.com

Just Me

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Oct 6, 2009, 8:08:07 PM10/6/09
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If you can get a few laughs out of a book written by an author who is
totally nuts, okay. Have fun! But I agree that Ellroy made a worse
hack-job on the Black Dahlia murder than the murderer himself--almost.
The John Gilmore book puts the last nail in the case if you ask
me . . .

http://tinyurl.com/ye9f9lb

Case solved.

There's a term of art that keeps appearing over and over in all
Ellroy's books . . .

http://www.jessesword.com/fword/2009/08/fuck-pad/

Every time I see it, I stare at that and I go WTF? I've never seen
anyone but Ellroy use it. I think it must be some kind of deviated
preversion, a residue from those *Dark Places* afflicting his mind and
causing him to think that any place a man finds to sleep that is not
under a bush or a bridge, is something to be envied and called "a fuck
pad".

. . .

>
> Williamwww.williamahearn.com

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