Where Can I Find A Copy of "Norwood" By Charles Portis?
Mark
copy of it for a reasonable price? I couldn;t get it on Amazon or B&N an
dI'm pretty sure it's out of print.
Thanks,
Mark
pet...@ms.com
Try WWW.BIBLIOFIND.COM...
CHARLES PORTIS: NORWOOD ; 66061 BALLANTINE MISC. SOME
BROWNING, MOVIE TIE IN VERY GOOD- SOFTCOVER Offered for sale
by Romance and Roses Bookstore at US$20.00
hth
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Meg Worley
>I would like it to read, not as a collector.
Rab being a place for uttering the obvious, allow me to
recommend a nearby library. There you will find lots
of books to read, and none to collect.
Rage away,
meg
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Paul Ilechko
>I would like it to read, not as a collector. Anybody know where I can get a
>copy of it for a reasonable price? I couldn;t get it on Amazon or B&N an
>dI'm pretty sure it's out of print.
I used to have a copy, but it's gone now, so I guess I must have
donated it to the local library on my last great purge ...it wasn't
very good, anyway.
Randy Money
edition of it maybe 10, maybe 12 years ago.
Randy Money
Mark wrote:
>
> I would like it to read, not as a collector. Anybody know where I
> can get a copy of it for a reasonable price? I couldn;t get it on
> Amazon or B&N an dI'm pretty sure it's out of print.
> Thanks,
> Mark
Mark
;)
BTW, that's the first time I've used one of those inane sideways smiley
faces. Did I really have to do that to demonstrate I'm not being hostile?
Seems that without it, though, even the most benign usenet sarcasm is taken
as a flame from hell, usually resulting in a lengthy verbal jihad.
Meg Worley wrote in message <7i3qp9$k...@steam.stanford.edu>...
>Mark writes:
>>I would like it to read, not as a collector.
>
Revanche-Hoya
Mark <atu...@wt.net> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
7i4p7l$rkm$1...@news4.wt.net...
Gee, thanks for the insight, Meg. Any advice on where I can get a van
Gogh?
;)
<<
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>Mark <atu...@wt.net> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
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>Gee, thanks for the insight, Meg. Any advice on where I can get a van
>Gogh?
>;)
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>
>To collect or not to collect?
To have it bronzed.
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Meg Worley
>>>I would like it to read, not as a collector.
I sassed:
>>Rab being a place for uttering the obvious, allow me to
>>recommend a nearby library. There you will find lots
>>of books to read, and none to collect.
Mark replies:
>Gee, thanks for the insight, Meg. Any advice on where I can
>get a van Gogh? ;)
The public library, when I was growing up, used to lend
paintings, for a loan period of six months. I'm fairly
sure they didn't have any Van Gogh work, though; I
remember hearing one librarian telling a patron that
they refused to have any Bernard Buffet(t?) reproductions,
because he was a pinko.
>BTW, that's the first time I've used one of those inane sideways smiley
>faces. Did I really have to do that to demonstrate I'm not being hostile?
>Seems that without it, though, even the most benign usenet sarcasm is taken
>as a flame from hell, usually resulting in a lengthy verbal jihad.
When in doubt, I always give posters the benefit of the
doubt; a number of the rabble regularly appear angrier
than they mean to. (And then there are the naturally
angry -- best to leave them alone, unless you can have
some fun with 'em.)
My favorite emoticon-avoidance strategy is the judicious
use of dialect and exclamation points. Sometimes, though,
ya just gotta bite the smiley!
midtown neon
previously but this issue is one of interest.
There are books which exist neither in new books stores nor in public
libraries but only, and then, sometimes only, on the shelves or in the
catalogs of dealers in rare books.
Where, then, are 'reader's copies' of those books to be found?
neon, m.
francis muir
Meg Worley:
> My favorite emoticon-avoidance strategy is the judicious
> use of dialect and exclamation points. Sometimes, though,
> ya just gotta bite the smile
Anyone for Mary Webb, whose initials, coincidentally . . .
F
francis muir
midtown neon wrote:
This is a fair question. Particularly vulnerable to demise are authors
who were once popular but now fallen out of fashion. No matter that they
still have some quality about them, even if it is that they represent
something now gone. Libraries are geberally quite quick to dispose of
these authors. Cases in point: Dornford Yates and Maurice Leblanc. This
latter, who created the wonderfil Arsene Lupin tales, fortunately lives
on in the Web, offical Home of Lost Causes.
Fido
midtown neon
annals of real-life personal experiences.
A few years ago, I went to our town's public library with the intention
of borrowing a book I had borrowed there before. It was not shelved and
my search, using the compu.cat. for its status, showed zilch. Nothing,
nada, not listed.
Unbelieveable, more than strange, as this seemed to me, having borrowed
the item less than two months previously, I then made personal inquiry
of a real live person-librarian. and got advised that the book had been
deemed in need of repair, had been judged to be not worth the bother and
had been ditched. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What an ignoble ending for such a friend. To have been put out with the
trash and, insult to injury adding, undervalued.
Who'd make such a decision? etc., etc.
The book having been in an amost constant state of borrow-and-return had
obviously been of proven value to some of the library's patrons.
Further, when searching the title in the county system, I found that
the three most near town's libraries, which also had had copies, had
each and every one suffered their loss. "Missing." "Not returned."
"Stolen." Dire to the max.
The book then, had been of value. Had I known the situation, of course,
I would have funded a rebinding as a gift. We gift them, anyway. etc.
So. Four libraries that I now know of don't have this book anymore.
But ... I do. A kind acquaintance who knew of my need found a copy in
a shop in another country ... at 4 times its original price. It got
paid for, delivery included, and I got it, once again, this time to be
my own, acquired as a gift.
O.K., for me personally, ending ... but the libraries diminish,
de-access, and of items still wanted for use. I don't know that this is
even a cautionary tale ... for, what can we do?
neon, m.
Alan R. Light
>A few years ago, I went to our town's public library with the intention
>of borrowing a book I had borrowed there before. It was not shelved and
>my search, using the compu.cat. for its status, showed zilch. Nothing,
>nada, not listed.
>O.K., for me personally, ending ... but the libraries diminish,
>de-access, and of items still wanted for use. I don't know that this is
>even a cautionary tale ... for, what can we do?
Same thing happened to me once. I ended up putting the book online.
OK, so I'm cheating. I had already been planning to transcribe the book
before I found out that the library had gotten rid of its copy --
a book that, as far as I can tell, only had two (unabridged) printings,
in 1822 and 1947.
Yes, it's amazing sometimes what libraries get rid of, and what they keep.
I guess it reflects the tastes of the public, however,
and who was it that said no one had ever gone broke
overestimating the poor taste of the American people?
Alan
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francis muir
midtown neon:
... but the libraries diminish, de-access, . . .
San Francisco's new public library had a perfect few months when, still
under construction, it played HQ to the shoot-em-up TV show, *Nash
Bridges*. Then it was finished and it became clear that. so magnificent was
it as an Empty Space that it would never hold books of any consequence.
Perhaps Bob Teeter can give us a run-down on the place since for myself I
have long decided that San Jose is, or soon shall be, the cultural capital
of Northern California. Witness the imaginative insight of the City Fathers
to Art Gallery. Instead of putting money into art which is no longer
available at reasonable prices, they came to an arrangement with the Witney
in new York. They, in San Jose, would supply the Gallery and the Witney,
who has very limited exhibition space, would supply the pictures. But i
digress. For another library horror tale read (again!) the May/June
*Linguafranca* and the article "The Reading Room Riot". It concerns the new
8,000,000,000 fr Bibliotheque Nationale Francaise. Needless to say
computers are a part the problem: "the faulty computer system . . .
occasionally ceases to be broken"; fewer hours; appointment for books "much
like your dentist", and much. much more. Like the San Francisco Public
Library the BNF was architect-designed, and we have come to understand what
that means.
Fido
Michael S Pettersen
: There are books which exist neither in new books stores nor in public
: libraries but only, and then, sometimes only, on the shelves or in the
: catalogs of dealers in rare books.
: Where, then, are 'reader's copies' of those books to be found?
The first time I tried <http://www.bibliofind.com> I found two copies of a
book I'd been seeking for many, many years. Other online book services hadn't
turned it up, so I was very pleased. (I then proceeded to spend an
exorbitant amount of money on the book.)
I've heard of a service that will photocopy out-of-print books (hopefully
taking care of copyright fees when applicable) but I never tracked it
down. I don't know whether you have to provide the original yourself.
Has anybody here used such a service?
--
Mike Pettersen
SubGenius
Meg Worley (m...@steam.stanford.edu) wrote:
: Rab being a place for uttering the obvious, allow me to
: recommend a nearby library. There you will find lots
: of books to read, and none to collect.
+---------------------------------SubG------------------------------------+
Ms Worley is either no longer a grad student and not yet a professor,
prevaricating slightly, or deviating greatly from normally accepted
behaviour, I collect.
Yours etc.,
SubGenius
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Not So Newbie
One way to find o.p. books is to try the on-line stores:
http://www.abebooks.com
http://www.bibliofind.com
Oh, Library de-accessions! They are incredible, devastating,
even when the library sells its discards (as some do.) I've
seen hardcover books vanish that the library later buys again
in paperback.
And why do they have the clerks *throw* books in bins at return
stations? This really *hurts* books. These aren't paperback
fiction books, which can be expected to have a limited circulation
life, but the hardcover circulation copies!
Revanche-Hoya
Michael S Pettersen <mspe...@gcfn.org> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
7ia845$g...@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us...
I've heard of a service that will photocopy out-of-print books
(hopefully taking care of copyright fees when applicable) but I never
tracked it down. I don't know whether you have to provide the
original yourself. Has anybody here used such a service?
<<
I haven't used them, but have heard that Kraus Reprint do such a
thing, and another company whose name I'm not sure of - Microfilm
something? - in much the same way as I do On Demand publishing. There
was talk many years ago of the British Library offering such a
service, but I haven't heard anything about it since.
Surely if a book is off the shelf it is still capable of being ordered
from another library? That's certainly the case here. I need an
original German version of Shakespeare's Sonnets last year, went to my
small toen, open once a week library and ordered it by title and
publisher, had it two weeks later. The 1832 copy, in original ...
Aside from that I tend to use the search engines on my own site and
seek out whatever is available. I rarely miss anything.
(http://www.revanche-hoya.de/html/sponsors.html)
Maureen Scobie
(deletions)
For another library horror tale read (again!) the May/June
> *Linguafranca* and the article "The Reading Room Riot". It concerns the new
> 8,000,000,000 fr Bibliotheque Nationale Francaise. Needless to say
> computers are a part the problem: "the faulty computer system . . .
> occasionally ceases to be broken"; fewer hours; appointment for books "much
> like your dentist", and much. much more. Like the San Francisco Public
> Library the BNF was architect-designed, and we have come to understand what
> that means.
>
> Fido
As an "accompanying person" I will be taken on a tour of the new
Bibliotheque Nationale in June. I shall report on my return.
I loved the old bibliotheque in which I studied one summer. Foucault
would roll up on his bicycle. Books would pile up on my desk.
I also loved the blue and gold reading room in London.Sometimes I
think the powers-that-be destroy all this beauty in order to reconcile
us to mortality!
Maureen
Robert Teeter
: midtown neon:
: ... but the libraries diminish, de-access, . . .
Re. "Deaccession" (aka "weeding"): Yes, it happens. Libraries
have to make room somehow, and many of them can't afford to build new
buildings every 10 or 20 years. Librarians do the best they can,
trying to balance public demand (including anticipated future demand),
classics in their field, and shelf space. Sometimes, librarians make
mistakes, as we've heard on r.a.b. periodically. All I can suggest
is that you check out your favorite books that might be in danger.
Librarians usually check circulation figure. ("Wow, this weird old
book went out 10 times in the last year, better keep it!")
Another note: If you can't find a book in your local and
nearby libraries, ask about interlibrary loan. Most public libraries
and almost all academic libraries can do it for you.
: San Francisco's new public library had a perfect few months when, still
: under construction, it played HQ to the shoot-em-up TV show, *Nash
: Bridges*. Then it was finished and it became clear that. so magnificent was
: it as an Empty Space that it would never hold books of any consequence.
: Perhaps Bob Teeter can give us a run-down on the place...
Sorry, I can't comment. All I know is what I read in the
papers.
: since for myself I
: have long decided that San Jose is, or soon shall be, the cultural capital
: of Northern California.
Funny you should mention San Jose in a library context. The city
and San Jose State University are planning a joint library on the site of
SJSU's old library. The idea is apparently unprecedented in the U.S.
It's been very controversial among SJSU faculty and staff. The former
fear nothing will ever be on the shelves if the unwashed masses are given
free rein. Some of the latter will find their offices removed to the
parking garage.
I don't know what to think of it. I would hate to see
the university library not be able to fulfill its mission of serving
the campus. (They already don't buy some books I think they should
have, so I'll have to do interlibrary loan.) But it would be
hypocritical of me to oppose public access, since I'm a member of
the Alumni Association and, hence, able to check out books myself.
I just wish I could *get in* to Stanford's Green Library,
though. I don't want to check anything out, but I know they have
stuff I'd like to look it.
--
Bob Teeter (rte...@netcom.com) | http://www.wco.com/~rteeter/
"I can't have information I know would be of
interest to someone and not share it."
-- Sanford Berman, activist librarian
Robert Teeter
: I've heard of a service that will photocopy out-of-print books (hopefully
: taking care of copyright fees when applicable) but I never tracked it
: down.
Books on Demand (part of University Microfilms International).
I've noticed their titles turning up on amazon.com. They are
expensive.
: I don't know whether you have to provide the original yourself.
Don't think so.
: Has anybody here used such a service?
Not personally.
Meg Worley
I had written:
>: Rab being a place for uttering the obvious, allow me to
>: recommend a nearby library. There you will find lots
>: of books to read, and none to collect.
Allusive St. SubG intones:
>+---------------------------------SubG------------------------------------+
>Ms Worley is either no longer a grad student and not yet a professor,
>prevaricating slightly, or deviating greatly from normally accepted
>behaviour, I collect.
Dangit, Subby's got me all figured out!
midtown neon
is the place.
incredible ... no, very credible ... marvelous van gogh color repros.
a fine example of the web at its very best!
neon, m.
Sofonisba
sofonisba
SubGenius
Meg Worley (m...@steam.stanford.edu) wrote:
: >Ms Worley is either no longer a grad student and not yet a professor,
: >prevaricating slightly, or deviating greatly from normally accepted
: >behaviour, I collect.
: Dangit, Subby's got me all figured out!
+---------------------------------SubG------------------------------------+
Attention to figure work has always been one of Your Humble Narrator's
distinguishing features.
A-and ignoring any possible gritty Gallus (which, after all, is
divided into sweethearts) references, the quote which leaps to mind
is:
By God, girl, that's a Colt Dragoon. Now, you're no bigger'n
a corn nubbin. What are you doin' with all that pistol?
Which allows Your Humble Narrator to leap, via one of those segues
that even I don't follow entirely, to Teodito's injuction gainst
capping copperheads without the aid of rat shot. Speaking of
Colt light ordinance (which circumstance has required no small
feats of allusive legerdemain to achieve), I reckon I could still
get a slug from a Single Action Army, Artillery model into anything
I could pepper with rat shot. That being said, tractor detail
generally -did- call for a S&W .22 loaded with alternate rat shot
and slug. Hell of a lot cheaper than .45 reloads, and the brass is
less likely to find its way into the tractor blades, thence to fly off
and trepan the cat.
Addendum to advice about keeping an empty chamber under the hammer
when humping your sidearm[1]: Although they sure look like they
might be, snakes sunning themselves on flat rocks are -not- good
targets, less'n you're interested in taking up a very high velocity
billiards variant. Especially if you're loaded with rat shot.
Of course this sort of pedagogery is best punctuated by the wiggling
of fingers through a much-character'd hat[2], preferably one
perforated in a gardening accident or suchlike. What percentage
of gunshops have fractured display cases being signs, `This hole
was made by an "unloaded" gun'?
Yours etc.,
SubGenius
- -----
1 Which turn of phrase is no doubt this very moment causing someone
undue glee.
2 `Nonsense. S-2 reported that machine gun silenced hours ago. Stop
wiggling your fingers at me.'
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HRH1962
>A-and ignoring any possible gritty Gallus (which, after all, is
>divided into sweethearts) references, the quote which leaps to mind
>is:
>
> By God, girl, that's a Colt Dragoon. Now, you're no bigger'n
> a corn nubbin. What are you doin' with all that pistol?
>
>Which allows Your Humble Narrator to leap, via one of those segues
>that even I don't follow entirely, to Teodito's injuction gainst
>capping copperheads without the aid of rat shot.
Don't forget the scene with the rat. "I've got a rat writ writ for a rat..."
--
Heather Henderson
HRH...@aol.com
http://scc.net/~heather
Paul Ilechko
>It was last heard of in Japan, wasn't it? Or was it Australia?
>sofonisba
Depends which copy you are talking about.
midtown neon
all depends on what you mean by "it"
neon, m.
midtown neon
knew that. (that it was not complete.)
sofonisba:
"it was last heard of in japan, wasn't it?"
that all depends on what you meant by "it"
.. as v.gogh painted a dozen "still life with sunflowers" as a series.
the most 'known' one being known for its price, $39.500.000 in, 1987.
of the 11 extant, it's the only one in japan. there was another, but it
got destroyed in the war.
that price got passed by 3 other v.goghs. an "irises" @ 53.900.000,
also in 1987, but seven months later. a "dr. gachet" in 1990 @
$63.500.000 and a "self-portrait w. no beard" went for $71.500.000 in
1998.
the 'japan' "sunflowers" has 14 blossoms.
neon, m.
Sofonisba
sunflowers. The original sunflowers themselves are quite wilted by now.
sofonisba
Sofonisba
sofonisba
Meg Worley
>> There are books which exist neither in new books stores nor in public
>> libraries but only, and then, sometimes only, on the shelves or in the
>> catalogs of dealers in rare books.
>>
>> Where, then, are 'reader's copies' of those books to be found?
Francis Library-Bane writes:
>This is a fair question. Particularly vulnerable to demise are authors
>who were once popular but now fallen out of fashion. No matter that they
>still have some quality about them, even if it is that they represent
>something now gone. Libraries are geberally quite quick to dispose of
>these authors. Cases in point: Dornford Yates and Maurice Leblanc. This
>latter, who created the wonderfil Arsene Lupin tales, fortunately lives
>on in the Web, offical Home of Lost Causes.
Francis' primary library, he fails to note, has 31 books
by the former author and 21 by the latter, all but a couple
available for take-away. My own public library has 9 of
Yates's novels and 13 of Leblanc's. I don't see "reader's
copies" as a particular problem here.
Perhaps Eminem has some other authors to offer up as
unreachable to mere mortal readers?
fido
> Francis Library-Bane:
> > This is a fair question. Particularly vulnerable
> > to demise are authors who were once popular
> > but now fallen out of fashion. No matter that
> > they still have some quality about them, even
> > if it is that they represent something now gone.
> > Libraries are generally quite quick to dispose of
> > these authors. Cases in point: Dornford Yates
> > and Maurice Leblanc. This latter, who created
> > the wonderfil Arsene Lupin tales, fortunately
> > lives on in the Web, offical Home of Lost Causes.
> Francis' primary library, he fails to note, has 31
> books by the former author and 21 by the latter,
> all but a couple available for take-away. My own
> public library has 9 of Yates's novels and 13 of
> Leblanc's. I don't see "reader's copies" as a particular
> problem here.
In fact, Green has two Lupin tales in English, and one is checked out.
--
fido
midtown neon
more thought, here.
but, just of the top, the particular book of which I wrote as per
example, was not well-known, nor was its author. it, and others like
it, are merely hard-to-finds in the movie-film-cinema section.
no big deal, really. only that while the IMDb's priceless for data,
there was more to it than that in what I needed.
neon, m.