FAQ #2 ON JAI MAHARAJ (AKA JAY STEVENS)
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From: L. M. P. McPherson
Date: Monday, January 29, 1996 3:12 PM
To: alt.astrology
Subject: ALT.ASTROLOGY NEWCOMERS READ THIS: FREQUENTLY ASKED
QUESTIONS
Archive-name: astrology-faq/part1
Last-modified: 24 October 1995
****** FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ******
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23) Who is this "Dr. Jai Maharaj" person who posts so prolifically?
Answer: This person has generated so much annoyance in this and other groups
that Roy Johnson (rjoh...@shell.com) created a FAQ about him. See that FAQ for
full details. (If you cannot find it in alt.astrology, look in rec.food.veg.)
Briefly, his legal name appears to be Jay Stevens (e.g., this name appears in
the articles of incorporation for his "Mantra Corporation"). He used to post
under that name in other electronic forums, but when he discovered the internet,
he decided to use a more Indian-sounding name, and began calling himself "Jai
Maharaj." Lately, this name has evolved into "Dr. Jai Maharaj." In 1990, he was
claiming that his birth name was Jai Mathura. He has many internet accounts, and
he sometimes edits the headers of postings to obscure their origin and author.
He is believed to create alternate personas and post under additional aliases to
give the impression that he has supporters. Such personas are often recognised
by their tendency to use the term "Swami" for him. He has a "library" of
articles that he posts, re-posts, and re-posts again, ad nauseam; this accounts
for his ubiquity on the net. Each posting contains a .sig file that advertises
his vedic astrology business, so the large volume of his postings appears to be
part of a marketing scheme. (The official purpose of Mantra Corporation is
listed as "business consulting, marketing, advertising and related services."
Despite anything he might say, this company is *not* a non-profit organisation.)
Netters have dubbed him "Jai Mirage" because they think he is a fake -- a con
man. Don't be taken in. And please, please, please don't respond to his postings;
he generates enough net "noise" as it is. Just put his most usual alias (Jai
Maharaj) and/or all of his net addresses in your kill file for this newsgroup (see
the Jai Maharaj FAQ for a list of these addresses). See # 22 for instructions
about editing a kill file. For the curious, he once claimed that his birth data
are October 7, 1946, 9:15 am (-5:30 h), New Delhi, India, 77E12, 28N36. Oh, and
by the way, he is in the habit of posting a slightly edited version of this FAQ,
changing this answer into an advertisement for himself, inserting a diatribe
against western astrology at the beginning of the file, and putting his most
common alias (Jai Maharaj) at the head of the list of contributors to the FAQ!
There are two terms for this activity: plagiarism, and copyright violation. (The
latter is one of his favourite activities; he often posts large excerpts from
books without the authors' permission, and sometimes without giving the authors
credit.)
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1. Who is Jai Maharaj?
Jai Maharaj is the 'Voice of Mantra Corporation'. Though it is seen as just one
poster posting all the stuff on Usenet, it is widely suspected that Jai is not
the only contributor.
2. What newsgroups are home to Jai Maharaj?
You're kidding. Any newsgroup on Usenet, forums on Compuserve, practically
anything anywhere anytime is home to Jai Maharaj. Just post on any of the
following groups on Noosenet and Jai is very eager always to share his wisdom
with any group.
Jai's wisdom is presently available on the following groups:
alt.astrology
sci.med.nutrition
rec.food.veg
soc.culture.indian
alt.culture.hawaii (he says "Come over to alt.culture.hawaii" but he
never posts there)
The Usenet graph of Jai Maharaj in a brand of vedic astrology :
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| A.A | A.A | A.A | A.A |
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| | | | |
| S.M.N | | | A.C.H |
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----------- Jai Maharaj ----------
| | 03/19/94 A.D. | |
| R.F.V | 13:40:56 GMT | T.P.A |
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| S.C.I | S.C.I | S.C.I | R.F.V |
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3. What do you need to do to get in the good books of Jai Maharaj?
Well, say that Vedic astrology is good. Don't ever be a animal killer/eater.
Also see Q. 4. Also ask Virendra on alt.astrology.
4. What do you need to do to get in the bad books of Jai Maharaj?
Just flame him on Usenet for 5 days. It helps if you are quite "popular" or "widely
known" on a newsgroup. Else you aren't worth Jai Maharaj's time. Say that Vedic
Astrology is a fake. Or that Mantra Corporation is misusing Internet/Usenet by
advertizing using the 4-line .sig.
5. What is common between Jai Maharaj and John Palmer?
Both have claim to being one of the most "popular" persons on Usenet. Jai has
accused lots of people with "LIBEL". JP has slapped virtual lawyers on many.
6. What is different between Jai Maharaj and John Palmer?
John has his own machine and his own domain. Jai gets on to U. of Hawaii and
accesses Freenets from there. John has a knowledge of sendsys while Jai doesn't.
Jai is quite known to accuse people of sending mail bombs when there wasn't any
sent. But Jai is working hard to be a JP.
7. What is the mark of a Jai Maharaj posting?
It always starts with a -=Namaste=- and ends with a -=Om Shanti=-. oops.. sorry.
Always ends with the 4 line .sig. He posts usually from his accounts as:
ad...@freenet.carleton.ca
?@freenet.victoria.bc.ca
cy...@cleveland.freenet.edu
Your tax dollars at work!
Till date, he has never been seen from a commercial account. Once in a while,
mantra corporation (which has the same mcimail number apparently as jaima...@mcimail.com)
uses the UTexas gateway to pass out its distilled wisdom.
8. What do I do if I don't want to see Jai's postings at all?
There is a wonderful mechanism on bulletin board systems called "Killfile". Use
it. If you are annoyed, you can send mail to postmaster@<node> where node is
the freenet he is using. Also you can send a nice 'thank you' note for every
posting he does. He appreciates it very much.
9. Why this FAQ?
There are countless people on Usenet who still don't know Jai Maharaj and this
humble effort on my part will probably enable people from far and wide to get to
know the personality of Jai. btw, there is also a alt.fan.jai-maharaj. Please
spread the Jai Maharaj message for the good of the world.
Contributions to the FAQ most welcome. If anyone wants to take over the FAQ, you
are most welcome to. Please post everything on the newsgroup. Every effort has
been made to present facts. Corrections welcome on that count from anyone, be it
from Jai Maharaj or John Palmer.
Jai anon.penet.fi. Jai Jai Maharaj. Jai Julf.
-=Om Jai Maharaj=-
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From: Roy Johnson (rjoh...@shell.com)
Subject: "Jai Maharaj" pollutes Usenet (was Re: MEAT HABIT...)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian, alt.culture.hawaii, rec.food.veg, alt.fan.jai-maharaj,
soc.culture.usa
(This is the only article in this thread)
Date: 1995/07/17
The Kook of the Month for May/June, "Jai Maharaj," has added soc.culture.usa to
the list of groups he bombards with his propaganda trolls, so here's
the FAQ on him.
He'll reply to this with old, edited posts that "prove" that I'm a forger. They
are discussed in item #17.
The upshot is: try to ignore him. He's not fooling anyone.
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The Frequently Asked Questions about Jay "Jai Maharaj" Stevens maintained by:
rjoh...@shell.com
Note: Jai's accusations in response to this posting are explained in #17. So now
he doesn't need to post it.
Recent Changes:
8 Jul 95: Jai wins Kook of the Month, see #1
7 Jul 95: More on Jai's existence and e-mail, #6 and #15
30 Jun 95: Panther provides BBS posting by Jay Stevens
28 Jun 95: Added eskimo.com as a jai account to #15
12 Jun 95: Updated #15, info on e-mailing Jai
17 May 95: Update on Jai's identity: possibly a group pseudonym
15 May 95: Update of #7, Jai's supporters
Updated #8, why so many accounts
Shortened Tin killfile instructions in #16
#15a points users' complaints to postm...@caprica.com
12 May 95: Jai's accusation of Forgery explained, #17 and "Note" above
11 May 95: Telnet address for checking out Mantra Corp. added to #6
10 May 95: New source checks the Oahu phonebook
2 May 95: New information from Shyamasundara Dasa -> #6a
This is the Jai FAQ for rec.food.veg. I used to say it has few sources, but the
response has been so great that I have lots of sources. Still some inaccuracies,
but unlike Jai, we're trying to propagate the truth.
1. Isn't Jai just a well-meaning, enthusiastic vegetarian with a poor
understanding of netiquette?
A: No, and it is extremely important to understand this. Jai is a malicious
troll intent on introducing as much noise into various newsgroups as possible,
specifically noise about himself. It is pointless to try to reason with him,
pointless to instruct him in proper netiquette, and not worth your while to
debunk his arguments because he will simply repost them. Jai was voted "Kook of
the Month" for May/June 1995:
> From: mle...@wetware.com (M. Legare)
> Newsgroups: alt.usenet.kooks
> Subject: Kook of the Month May / June 1995
> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 1995 08:26:40 -0800
>
> A tough race, and one with a little bit of controversy.
>
> I received a LOT of votes for Senator Exon, the author of the "On-Line
> Communications Decency Act." Now, as much as I would personally LOVE to
> pitch this particular brickbat at ol' Exy, as we call him, he has NEVER
> posted to the Net. Consequently, he really doesn't qualify for this award.
> Sorry to the 53 people who mailed me votes...
>
> However, we DO have a winnah...
>
> "Jai Marahaj" (j...@mantra.com)
>
> Also known as "the man who WON'T STOP POSTING to soc.culture.hawaii and
> about a bazillion other places". Limited repetoire, but it's some kind of
> vegetarian / buddhist / psycho / loonie / spambot thing here... he got a
> lot of "support"...
>
> Votes:
> "Jai Maharaj": 27 votes
> Yehuda Silver: 1 vote
> Ben Trentler & Jon...@aol.com: 5 votes
> David Kaufman: 1 vote
> David De Hilster: 3 votes
> Bruce Wellington: 5 votes
> Vertner Vergon: 5 votes
> Vsberadi: 1 vote
> Robert McElwane: 2 votes
> Russel Wertz: 2 votes
> "Rudolph": 2 votes
> Ben Johnson: 2 votes
> James Dougherty: 1 vote
> Ronald J. Fey: 3 votes
> ++Albert: 1 vote
2. Why doesn't Jai post reputable information? He undermines his own credibility
with his questionable and misleading data.
A: Jai is not interested in credibility. He is interested in Jai. He simply
wants attention. In fact, he is getting much pleasure from reading this very
posting.
3. Is he actually a doctor? A vegetarian? A Hindu?
A: He is almost certainly not a doctor. His status as a vegetarian and/ or Hindu
is largely irrelevant. He posts for the sake of posting, not to further a cause
or engage in discussion. He is like Jim Bakker, in that you don't know whether
he believes it, and ultimately it doesn't make any difference. For the record,
he has claimed to be a
Hindu, and (to my knowledge) has not claimed to be a vegetarian.
j...@lava.net (Jerry DeGuzman) claims to have met Jay Stevens, and in their time
together, Jay told him that others post messages as "Jai Maharaj", so it could
be a cooperative effort, with Jay as ringleader. Jerry also credits Jay as
having done a Jyotish reading, indicating that he does practice Vedic astrology.
"Jay had dark skin, long beard (and mustache, I think). Whitish/gray hair, mid-forty
to late-fifty years old...I think he was wearing some kind of leather slippers --
tongs -- like what grandpa used to wear. I remember dark, drab clothing on Jay."
** Full text of Jerry's story available on request **
Apparently, the "Dr." appelation came from a time when he was pretending to be a
professor at Case Western. He indicated to Jerry that he held two engineering
degrees.
4. So where did the name "Jai Maharaj" come from?
A: There are several theories, but the most probable answer is:
Jay Stevens --> Jay Mirage --> Jai Mirage --> Jai Maharaj
"Jai Maharaj" means "conquering (or victorious) king", which is not likely to be
a real name. His real name is apparently Jay Stevens, which of course means
nothing; in his case, that is appropriately descriptive.
5. Where does Jai get all his material?
A: "Diet for a New America" is a popular book from 1987 by John Robbins. "Hinduism
Today" is a periodical published by the Himalayan Academy in San Francisco, CA.
It is now available on the Web: http://www.aloha.net/~htoday/htoday.html Jeremy
Rifkin is another advocate of vegetarianism with several popular works under his
belt. Jai posts from a collection of perhaps 50 excerpts from those three
sources. He usually prefaces each repost with some name-calling directed at
previous posters or "animal-killers" in general.
6. So is this Mantra Corporation for real?
A: Yes, there really is a Mantra Corporation. From the State Department of
Commerce and Consumer Affairs database (accessible via telnet to fyi.uhcc.hawaii.edu;
follow the menus through Business Registration System, then Dept. of Commerce
and Consumer Affairs):
> =======================================
>
> NAME: MANTRA CORPORATION
>
> STATUS: A
> CONSENT:
> SIM-NAME:
> DATE-INC: 11/30/1990
> TERM: PER
> DATE-EXP:
> ADDRESS: P. O. BOX 1919
> WAIANAE HI 96792 6919
> PURPOSE: BUSINESS CONSULTING, MARKETING,ADVERTISING AND RELATED
> SERVICES
>
> SEC DEALER:
> VOTE:
> VOTE DATE:
> REPORTS=> CURR-YR: LAST-YR: 1993 PRIOR-YR: 1992
> DELINQUENT:
>
>
> OFFICERS AS OF 11/30/1990 ------------------------------------------
> STEVENS,JAY R POSITION: *P/S/D
> MILLER,JOAN E POSITION: *V/T/D
> STOCK AS OF 11/30/1990 ---------------------------------------------
> COMMON SHARES: 1,000 PAID IN: 1,000
> PAR-VAL:
> TRAN-DATE--ST-TYPE-REMARKS -----------------------------------------
> 11/30/1990 C ART ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION
> =================================
Note especially that it strongly indicates that Jay Stevens and Jai Maharaj are
the same person. Note also that it has nothing to do with Hinduism or astrology.
Verifiable at (808) 586-2727 (voice) Business Registration Division or through
the Hawaii INC service under %bregs.
On the other hand, note that "Jai Maharaj" is credited as "Administrative
Contact" in the whois database entry for mantra.com.:
% whois -h rs.internic.net mantra.com
Calling server...Connected.
Mantra Corporation (MANTRA-DOM)
P. O. Box 1919
Honolulu, HI 96792-6919
Domain Name: MANTRA.COM
Administrative Contact:
Maharaj, Jai (JM225) 00056...@MCIMAIL.COM
(808) 948-4357
Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Lummel, James (JL26) jlu...@CAPRICA.COM
818-913-4510
Record last updated on 23-Apr-94.
Domain servers in listed order:
PROG1.CAPRICA.COM 198.180.167.10
VIPER.CAPRICA.COM 198.180.167.17
(thanks to gen...@dogbreath.com for this hint)
6a. What else is known about him?
A: Shyamasundara Dasa had an ugly business dealing with him, which allowed him
these personal tidbits:
Date of birth: Oct 7, 1946, 9:15AM
Place of birth: New Delhi, India
Real name: Jai Mathura (but was using Jai Stevens)
Address: as given above
Phone: 808-948-4357
FAX: 808-696-3217
*** full text available on request ***
7. Does anyone take Jai seriously?
A: There's a poster named Abhay who seems to. Recently, he has stopped endorsing
and encouraging Jai, perhaps tiring of him as the rest of us have. Abhay is
inflammatory, but is probably an actual annoying person rather than a
pseudonymous poster. Every so often someone else pipes up in support of
something Jai has
said. We think this is only people who haven't been exposed to him long.
7a. Is the recreational value provided by Jai more than his nuisance value?
A: At least one poster finds the responses to Jai's posts "enormously funny". We
at Jai FAQ headquarters find a laugh at the expense of so many to be extremely
low-brow. If you're going to troll, do it in groups that aren't trying to have
serious discussions.
8. Why does he have so many accounts?
A: We don't know. Spreads like a fungus, though, doesn't he? Recently (spring 95)
his posts have originated from "mantra.com", a subnet(?) of caprica.com; "aloha.com",
and (I'm told) "eskimo.com". This change may be due to the fact that the
postmaster of Freenet has promised to wipe his account if the spams can be shown
to originate from
there. Caprica.com, ironically billing itself as "the responsible Internet
provider," considers Jai's behavior to be reasonable free speech.
9. Why does he post the same thing over and over and over?
A: It allows him to maintain a high degree of visibility without actually having
to think up anything new.
10. So why doesn't everyone just killfile him?
A: Natural human optimism makes people believe that if you just reason with
someone, they'll behave sociably. Unfortunately, there are pathological people
who take a perverse pleasure in resisting such invitations. People hoping to
change him are actually encouraging him to continue his disruptive behavior.
10a: Is there any truth to the rumor that Jai is only trying to break the world's
record for being included in the most kill files?
A: While the Guinness Book of World Records has no entry for this catagory at
this time, Jai is sure to hold the record when kill files are included.
11. What is an "Om Shanti"?
A: It's a song sung by Hindu sailors. No, seriously, "Om Shanti" is a chant used
by Hindu holymen as a buzzword. "Shanti" means "peace," and may be used as a
greeting. "Om" is a religious word.
12. a. Why doesn't Jai answer questions in his own words?
b. Why doesn't Jai respond to challenges or criticisms in a civil manner?
A: He can't. Those are behaviors associated with rational human beings, and Jai
is not rational, and in all probability is not a human being.
13. Does Jai have a problem with reading comprehension?
A: Jai doesn't bother reading or comprehending. That would take valuable time
away from reposting. Instead, he uses the very sophisticated reasoning technique
referred to as "My ears are plugged, I can't hear you."
14. Are there any newsgroups I can read that are safe from Jai's postings?
A: Try a moderated group. rec.food.veg.cooking in particular, for those
interested in vegetarianism.
15. Which of his accounts is the best to send e-mail to?
A: Jai does not respond to e-mail. Mail sent to it will simply disappear.
However, if you have a personal message for him, such as a complaint
that his post was inappropriately crossposted, send it to (all of):
j...@mantra.com
j...@aloha.com
j...@eskimo.com (I haven't seen these)
00056...@MCIMAIL.COM (this is the address listed for him in the
whois database, see #6)
and, if appropriate, his postmaster (depending on which account he
posted from):
postm...@caprica.com
postm...@aloha.com
postm...@eskimo.com
Be sure to include the original, with all headers, and remember that "PGP-Encrypted
E-Mail is Preferred!" (a statement from the header of every "Jai" post).
15a. How about writing to his sysadmins?
A: Though it is unlikely to do any good as an individual act, perhaps complaints
from many users will spur some action. The postings from "j...@mantra.com" come
from "j...@caprica.com". If an inappropriate post comes from there, mail your
complaint to postm...@caprica.com. Include the original, and mention which
groups it appeared in. You should get a response that mentions the 1st amendment.
16. How can I kill him?
A: Heh, heh. Well, you can add him to your killfile. Here's how:
In gnus (mark articles deleted with "Jai Maharaj" in the from line):
(gnus-kill "From" ".*Jai Maharaj" "d")
rn compatible (mark all articles read with "Jai Maharaj" in the headers):
/Jai Maharaj/h:j
Tin compatible:
******************************* SNIP HERE ****************************
# 1st line 1=(Subject: only) 2=(From: only) 3=(Subject: & From:)
# K=(kill) H=(auto-selection)
# 2nd line 0=(kill on all newsgroups) >0=(kill on specific newsgroup)
2 K
0
*Jai Maharaj*
001 KILL
17. So what is this forgery Jai accuses you ("ROY JOHNSON, LIAR, etc.") of?
A: Some time ago, I was wondering how easy it was to change the headers in a
posting -- could I just type the From: line? So I made up an address, "j...@navy.gov
(Adm. Jai Maharaj)" and posted a little spoof about how Jai had joined the navy.
I set the distribution to shell, but it got out anyway. The first line of the
body said "This is just a spoof", but of course "Jai" has removed that because
it would make it obvious that he is lying. There was obviously no intent to
deceive on my part -- as if anyone could actually reduce his credibility.
=== Sources:
Jai only has three "references":
John Robbins, Jeremy Rifkin, and "Hinduism Today".
- Young, Richmond, "Re: FACT CITY 13 - Forget Eating Fish"
rec.food.veg, November 1994
Before you fall all over yourself with compliments, you might consider that Jai
Maharaj has never given any evidence of actually having a claim to the title of
"Dr." And then you might consider that, given his propensity to misinform us
about his "degree", you may be as misinformed WITH the "Fact City" postings as
you were before they appeared.
- Young, Richmond, "Re: Dr. Jai Maharaj"
rec.food.veg, November 1994
Just a brownie point for you Dr. Maharaj, keep the FACT CITY coming. It has been
wonderfull for a hap-hazardly informed vegitarian like me.
- Granholm, Scott A, "Dr. Jai Maharaj"
rec.food.veg, November 1994
So, for those of you actually looking for a vedic astrologer, you will be
dissappointed to know that Jai Maharaj really isn't one, has no corporation, is
not a doctor, and most likely lives only in the twisted imagination of a fool
who also goes by Jay Stevens. More interesting, however, is that Jai/Jay forges
his headers from mcimail.
- kris...@phakt.usc.edu (Taxi), "Re: Shaka Robots"
rec.food.veg, December 1994
I didn't read whatever lectures or insults you are trying to waste everyone's
time with.
- Stevens, Jay, posting as "Jai Maharaj",
rec.food.veg, sometime -- possibly several times
Nowhere has he said "I am a vegetarian"...I suspect that "Dr Jai maharaj" may be
no more than a clever script file, probably written for a master's thesis in
some computer-science department.
- wag...@taz.dra.hmg.gb (Walter Gray), "Re: Jai's fallacy and selective citation"
rec.food.veg, January 1995
sri...@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar "Adolf Hitler" Venkataraman)
mentally masturbated:
> Ofcourse, it is the right time to mention that you are banned
> from posting on rec.food.veg.cooking.
Namaste, Hitler ji:
Er . . . you can't ban me from a dud newsgroup I didn't vote for
or do not post in!
- Stevens, Jay, as "Dr. Jai Maharaj" <j...@mantra.com>,
article <UGlFkGzp...@mantra.com>
Can anybody list any plant-based product that could cause deceases? And don't
forget to include the source like Jai. I think doesn't matter if Jai is a person
or an artificial intelligent, he has helped hundreds or even thousands neters to
realize the truth.
- Catch, John <jo...@egr.msu.edu>, "Re: The Joy of Eating Lamb (YUK!)"
rec.food.veg et. al., January 1995
Finger on this johnc on the engineering machines here at msu.edu find no such
user.
- "Barb" <213...@msu.edu>
personal correspondence, January 1995
jai-bot: posts a message from a library of about 50, selected randomly.
the library is hopelessly out of date and mostly innaccurate. usually
posted to r.f.v, t.p.a., sci.med.nutrition, alt.culture.hawaii,
soc.culture.india, plus an entry to the scoring program (alt.fan.jai-bot).
Includes an Xref: line to cause the unaware to respond to the entire list
of newsgroups, even if they delete them from the Newsgroups: line.
...
(ex: the PCRM Meat article has been posted over 100 times in the last 6
months).
...
It would be merely annoying if it didn't provide so much misinformation to
new or occassional readers; preventing such misinformation being the only
reason anybody ever responds to the jai-bot.
- Narad, Chuck, "The Jai-Bot explained"
rec.food.veg et. al., November 1994
*** Full text available on request ***
The most amusing story about him on that board, IMO, was the time when he
suddenly started claiming that alt.astrology had 'thousands' of readers in
India (or Bharat as he calls it), who unfortunately had read-only access!
- <dun...@mirage.skypoint.com>, personal correspondence
January 1995
The regular guests of my BBS have, indeed, a thriving collection of
favorite Jay Stevens (the name he used before he decided he was a
doctor, an astrologer, and a "Vedic") lines...
The rest of us have decided that Jay Stevens/Jai Maharaj is:
40+ years old, most likely a realtor, most likely a State employee,
probably not a vegetarian, and probably not very healthy in general.
After he claimed to be dating a member of the DEA, we also determined he's
definately single, and probably hasn't dated since he outgrew his
disco-revival bellbottoms.
- oz...@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu,
personal correspondence, January 1995
*** Full text available on request ***
"Om Shanti" means "Total Peace." It is used in greeting and departing.
Perhaps "shanti" is of the same root as the Hebrew "Shalom' and the Arabic
"Salaam." The word "om" signifies cosmic evolution of man. There is a
reference about it even in the Bible (in a slightly different way) It also
signifies Brahma, the creator
- sa_c...@ccmail.pnl.gov
personal correspondence, January 1995
Dr. Jai Maharaj (j...@mantra.com) wrote:
: jai maharaj |_|_|_|_| mantra corporation
: jyotishi, vedic astrologer |_| |_| vedic prediction sciences
Careful inspection of this message reveals the level of scientific
evidence one could expect to receive from it.
- Green, Keith, "Re: Meat Eaters Cause All Violence"
sci.med.nutrition,rec.org.mensa,rec.food.veg, January 1995
Your real name *IS* Jay Stevens. I know, because before you became Jai
Mirage you briefly tried to hijack RIME astrology conference under your
real name, JAY STEVENS
- Kane, Jim, "Jay Stevens = Jai Mirage"
alt.astrology, January 1995
In a previous posting, Roy Johnson (rjoh...@conus.brc.shell.com) writes
some insults that have been deleted. Now, the following
is offered:
> As a matter of fact even I would agree with Rahul because
> I have found many correct answers, advices as well as predictions
> from Jai Maharaj.
- Stevens, Jay, "Re: *** THE HINDU WAY OF DOING BUSINESS ***"
posting as "Jai Maharaj" quoting "Dilip Raheja"
multiple newsgroups, January 1995
lux...@aol.com, Rahul Narain, Dilip Raheja and Jai Maharaj
are all the same person. Forged headers folks.
- Navar, Murgesh, "Re: *** THE HINDU WAY OF"
alt.astrology, January 1995
One of the foundations of Hinduism (and this is clearly stated in the
Geeta - if Jai Maharaj has ever read it) is that Hinduism is not to be
talked about to anybody who is not willing or not interested.
The constant messages from Jai Maharaj...dilute the religion and
actually give Hinduism a bad name.
- astr...@aol.com, "Re: Greetings to all (& vote)"
alt.astrology, January 1995
it is only a liar who will not take the trouble to defend himself
- Stevens, Jay, "Re: The Jai Maharaj FAQ - This is a MUST Read!!!"
multiple newsgroups, January 1995
Have you stopped masquerading as a professor from Case Western University?
That was your pseudo-persona last time I encountered you on the animal
rights newsgroup.
- Johnston, Charlie, "Re: The Joy of Being Vegan (YES!)"
rec.food.veg, February 1995
My name is Jai Maharaj.
- Stevens, Jay, posting as "Dr. Jai Maharaj"
"*** Compulsive Liar Vivek Sadananda Pai ***"
soc.culture.indian,alt.religion.vaisnava,rec.food.veg
18 April 1995
On behalf of all real Vedic astrologers, on and off the
net, please accept my humble apologies. He is not one of us.
- Shyamasundara Dasa <afn1...@freenet.ufl.edu|>
19 Mar 1995
*** Full text available on request ***
Hmmmm... I checked the O'ahu phone book, but no listing for "Jai Mathura"
exists. There is however, a listing for "Sanjay Mathur". Perchance is
this our beloved Jai? There are also two listings for "J. Stevens". Any
other aliases we should be aware of? Is this a case of multiple
personality disorder, or what?!
- ny...@aloha.net (Nathan Yuen), "Re: WHAT A SCOOP!!"
rec.food.veg, et. al.
4 May 1995
> Area: Vegetarian
> Msg#: 8 Date: 06-20-95 13:15
> From: Jay Stevens Read: Yes Replied: No
> To: Al Mclendon Mark:
> Subj: Re: vegetarian child?
>
> AM> how do i insure that my 12 year old is
> AM> covered nutritionally?
>
> Nutritional information is give at the end of this message:
>
> U.S. Physicians Say Meat ^ Recent Nutritional Research
> Not Necessary, ^ Affirms Superiority of the
> Actually Harmful ^ Vegetarian Diet for Humans
>
> [...] [message omitted, you have seen it many, many times]
>
>
> * Reposting recipes or posts from this conference on
> systems that charge a fee for access is prohibited *
> Jay Stevens, host
> 3301232103012321030123 VEGETARIAN CUISINE 3210301232103012321033
>
> .ORIGIN: 029/006 - The Ham Radio Landline BBS (808) 947-2738
> Honolulu, Hawaii Bob Kaneko, SysOp NH6L
> Surf the NET with FREE INTERNET E-Mail Access
- Jay Stevens, on Ham Radio Landline BBS (808) 947-2738
posted by pan...@pixi.com (Panther)
post forwarded in email by ny...@aloha.net (Nathan Yuen)
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Stray Dog (Arthur E. Sowers, Art Sowers for short) <sdog...@sdf.lonestar.org>
posting as Phantom <qcw...@sdf.lonestar.org> posted:
>
> [Deleted - Malicious defamation based on lies.]
Arthur Sowers (Stray Dog)'s deep-seated ill-will against the USA
In article <49ef9a96$0$5489$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>> In article <49ef7675$0$5496$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
>> "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:
>>> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>>>> In article <49ee4c78$0$5477$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
>>>> "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:
>>>>> "Stray Dog" <sdog...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Pine.NEB.4.64.09...@sdf.lonestar.org...
>>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>> don't pay no attention to brown missionaries.
>>>>
>>>> Good advice, but will Art Sowers (Straydog) take it?
>>
>>> isn't he showing contradictions? on one side he wants all to be happy.
>>> when
>>> the hindus, long tormented, finally are able to say how happy they are,
>>> he
>>> says he doesn't want to hear it, and calls it bragging. you tell him how
>>> terribel the muslim terror is, he wants to join up with old piff and talk
>>> about sati.
>>> straydog strays too much.
>> Yes there's a lot of evidence of Stray Dog (Arthur E.
>> Sowers) straying from the truth, that is if he ever was no
>> a truthful path. He seems to be offering support to Muslim
>> terrorists through at least his online behavior by trying
>> to distract from the issue under discussion. Also, when I
>> asked him if he too considers the US to be the biggest
>> terrorist state in the world, as Arindam Banerjee does,
>> Sowers instead started citing instances of what he
>> considers to be acts of terrorism by the United States. By
>> publishing their own words, both Art Sowers and Arindam
>> Banerjee have expressed their deep-seated ill-will against
>> the United States of America.
>> - Jai Maharaj
> this is so shocking!!!
> beyond shocking.
> arindam i understand - i mean i don't, but can figure him out - but art??!!
> do you think arindam finally did a number on him finally?
> i bin warnin the good americans about the brown indian commie professors
> teaching history and the "south asia studies" at universities all over the
> usa.
> of course, the wonderful hindu professors teaching math, science business
> and other gainfull subjects must not be confused with here. (you can't be
> too careful in clarifying)
Yes, below is the evidence of the fact that Stray Dog
(Arthur E. Sowers or Art Sowers for short) considers the
Uited States to be a terrorist state, just as Arindam
Banerjee does. When will the antagonism against the US
displayed by Art Sowers and his counterpart turn into
acts of sabotage or violence against the US?
========= Post 1 begins ================================
[ Subject: Re: If you get sick and tired of Rod Speed.....
[ From: Stray Dog <sdog2...@sdf.lonestar.org>
[ Newsgroups: alt.politics.economics,alt.fan.jai-
[ maharaj,sci.econ,alt.computer.consultants
[ Organization: Central Iowa (Model) Railroad, Plano, TX,
[ USA
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[ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 01:40:42 +0000
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[ In-Reply-To: <20090408N6u5AXrl6h2O38k4pHppx16@Wb52R>
[
[ On Thu, 9 Apr 2009, use...@mantra.com wrote:
[
[ > I have not familiarized myself yet with "Rod Speed" and
[ > his or her work, - Jai Maharaj
[
[ Do you read any of what he writes? If so, how much of
[ what he writes do you read? - Stray Dog
[
[ > but is "Rod Speed" as undesirable as, say, the
[ > poster who calls the US the "biggest terrorist state"?
[ > - Jai Maharaj
[
[ Well, if you read any history of the CIA, which for decades
[ has been involved in undermining any governments not to the
[ "interests of the USA" and carrying out missions to at
[ least some degree outside the knowledge and power of our
[ elected leaders, and very highly kept secret from the
[ American people, and together with the NSA, spying on
[ virtually everyone, and with a budget variously estimated
[ at some $30-35 billion, then the only question is: does
[ Russia or China or _who_ have a bigger budget for their
[ spy/espionage organizations?
[
[ The first book I ever read (in 1960s) was "The Invisible
[ Government" by Rose? and Wise? (I could look it up for you)
[ and all about what was known about the CIA. They did a lot
[ of nasty things, some of which came out later, publically,
[ and they were even doing things they were not supposed to
[ be doing. I recall that when the CIA found out this book
[ was coming out, they sent an agent to the publisher
[ offering to buy the whole first printing to keep the book
[ out of the hands of the public. However, today, both the
[ CIA and NSA even have public websites. I have visited them.
[ Be my guest. I'm sure you will not find full disclosures of
[ everything they are doing.
[
[ The British government also attempted to block
[ publication/sale of "Spycatcher" (about British
[ intelligence) in the UK but it appeared elsewhere and I
[ read that book, too.
[
[ Might the hiring, by the US govt, of many (tens of
[ thousands?+/-) Blackwater non-military but well-armed
[ private "assistants" (para-military) to help our "regular"
[ soldiers in Iraq constitute a form of "state-supported"
[ force that could do things that were technically outside
[ the normal international rules of warfare? i.e.
[ "terrorism"? And, I recall some order coming out of Bush
[ 2's office before he went to war with Iraq that he
[ instructed our spy agencies to try to assassinate Saddam.
[
[ Was the supply of weapons to Afghanistan anti-Russian
[ resistance fighters in the '70s+/- a form of unjustified
[ interference in Afghan internal affairs? The story is that
[ some of this contributed to the birth of Al-Queda, which is
[ the outcome we don't want. There are many other examples,
[ but I am not so familiar with very many of them.
[
[ Of course, you can find, if you dig, references to the
[ espionage and spy agencies of many influential countries:
[ China, Russia, India, Paki, England, France, Germany, and
[ Israel (at least), are all known to have spy/agent
[ organizations (Mossad in Israel, KGB/GRU in Russia [the old
[ names], MI-5,-6 in England, to name a few that come to
[ mind). The US has several others besides NSA/CIA.
[
[ Industrial spying (but much less so any sabotage) is well
[ known in the commercial world. Sometimes it is called
[ "business intelligence" or "marketing research." Very
[ innocent names.
[
[ You can also, if you want, decide that some large fraction
[ of all these stories are "disinformation" if you want, or
[ conspiracy theory, but the CIA does exist and I have driven
[ by the main NSA installation in Maryland, many times, and
[ they have serious fences around it. I don't think they are
[ playing cards or chess games inside.
[
[ And, when I was in the US military, I was involved in
[ classified (weapons-related) work, myself. They take all of
[ this very seriously.
[
[ By the way, they also had spies thousands of years ago. The
[ Trojan Horse was a pretty good espionage/sabotage trick,
[ too.
[
[ > In article <Pine.NEB.4.64.0904082242050.23...@sdf.lonestar.org>,
[ > Stray Dog <sdog2...@sdf.lonestar.org> posted:
[ >>
[ >>
[ >> ....copy the following phrase (below the row of asterisks) to a file, then
[ >> copy and paste it back under his first line of response. It will save you
[ >> a lot of time and effort for the other authors who always write material
[ >> more worthy of attention and thoughtfulness.
[ >>
[ >> **********************************************
[ >>
[ >> <reams of your desperate attempt to bullshit your way out of your
[ >> predicament
[ >> that fools absolutely no one at all, as always, flushed where it belongs>
========= Post 1 ends ==================================
========= Post 2 begins ================================
[ Subject: Re: If you get sick and tired of Rod Speed.....
[ From: Dr. Jai Maharaj
[ Newsgroups: alt.politics.economics,alt.fan.jai-
[ maharaj,sci.econ,alt.computer.consultants,
[ soc.culture.indian
[ Message-ID: <20090409S46pc02IGN8qDj2QhhTQriH@ZNl2a>
[ References:
[ <Pine.NEB.4.64.09...@sdf.lonestar.org>
[ <20090408N6u5AXrl6h2O38k4pHppx16@Wb52R>
[ <Pine.NEB.4.64.09...@sdf.lonestar.org>
[ Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:35:33 UTC
[
[
[ In article <Pine.NEB.4.64.0904090112150.13...@sdf.lonestar.org>,
[ Stray Dog <sdog2...@sdf.lonestar.org> posted:
[
[ > On Thu, 9 Apr 2009, Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
[
[ >> I have not familiarized myself yet with "Rod Speed" and
[ >> his or her work,
[
[ > Do you read any of what he writes? If so, how much of
[ > what he writes do you read?
[
[ I haven't paid much attention to the "From:" header in
[ certain cases, over the years, one such being where the
[ "Subject:" header didn't interest me. But now that you've
[ brought Rod Speed to my attention . . .
[
[ >> but is "Rod Speed" as undesirable as, say, the
[ >> poster who calls the US the "biggest terrorist state"?
[
[ > Well, if you read any history of the CIA, which for decades
[ > has been involved in undermining any governments not to the
[ > "interests of the USA" and carrying out missions to at
[ > least some degree outside the knowledge and power of our
[ > elected leaders, and very highly kept secret from the
[ > American people, and together with the NSA, spying on
[ > virtually everyone, and with a budget variously estimated
[ > at some $30-35 billion, then the only question is: does
[ > Russia or China or _who_ have a bigger budget for their
[ > spy/espionage organizations?
[ >
[ > The first book I ever read (in 1960s) was "The Invisible
[ > Government" by Rose? and Wise? (I could look it up for you)
[ > and all about what was known about the CIA. They did a lot
[ > of nasty things, some of which came out later, publically,
[ > and they were even doing things they were not supposed to
[ > be doing. I recall that when the CIA found out this book
[ > was coming out, they sent an agent to the publisher
[ > offering to buy the whole first printing to keep the book
[ > out of the hands of the public. However, today, both the
[ > CIA and NSA even have public websites. I have visited them.
[ > Be my guest. I'm sure you will not find full disclosures of
[ > everything they are doing.
[ >
[ > The British government also attempted to block
[ > publication/sale of "Spycatcher" (about British
[ > intelligence) in the UK but it appeared elsewhere and I
[ > read that book, too.
[ >
[ > Might the hiring, by the US govt, of many (tens of
[ > thousands?+/-) Blackwater non-military but well-armed
[ > private "assistants" (para-military) to help our "regular"
[ > soldiers in Iraq constitute a form of "state-supported"
[ > force that could do things that were technically outside
[ > the normal international rules of warfare? i.e.
[ > "terrorism"? And, I recall some order coming out of Bush
[ > 2's office before he went to war with Iraq that he
[ > instructed our spy agencies to try to assassinate Saddam.
[ >
[ > Was the supply of weapons to Afghanistan anti-Russian
[ > resistance fighters in the '70s+/- a form of unjustified
[ > interference in Afghan internal affairs? The story is that
[ > some of this contributed to the birth of Al-Queda, which is
[ > the outcome we don't want. There are many other examples,
[ > but I am not so familiar with very many of them.
[ >
[ > Of course, you can find, if you dig, references to the
[ > espionage and spy agencies of many influential countries:
[ > China, Russia, India, Paki, England, France, Germany, and
[ > Israel (at least), are all known to have spy/agent
[ > organizations (Mossad in Israel, KGB/GRU in Russia [the old
[ > names], MI-5,-6 in England, to name a few that come to
[ > mind). The US has several others besides NSA/CIA.
[ >
[ > Industrial spying (but much less so any sabotage) is well
[ > known in the commercial world. Sometimes it is called
[ > "business intelligence" or "marketing research." Very
[ > innocent names.
[ >
[ > You can also, if you want, decide that some large fraction
[ > of all these stories are "disinformation" if you want, or
[ > conspiracy theory, but the CIA does exist and I have driven
[ > by the main NSA installation in Maryland, many times, and
[ > they have serious fences around it. I don't think they are
[ > playing cards or chess games inside.
[ >
[ > And, when I was in the US military, I was involved in
[ > classified (weapons-related) work, myself. They take all of
[ > this very seriously.
[ >
[ > By the way, they also had spies thousands of years ago. The
[ > Trojan Horse was a pretty good espionage/sabotage trick,
[ > too.
[
[ Espionage and counter-espionage, in my view, are necessary
[ for safety and security. What can you say more about the
[ work you did in the military?
[
[ But (repeating the question) is "Rod Speed" as undesirable
[ as, say, the poster who calls the US the "biggest terrorist
[ state"?
[
[ Jai Maharaj
[ http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
[ Om Shanti
[
[ >> In article <Pine.NEB.4.64.0904082242050.23...@sdf.lonestar.org>,
[ >> Stray Dog <sdog2...@sdf.lonestar.org> posted:
[ >>>
[ >>>
[ >>> ....copy the following phrase (below the row of asterisks) to a file, then
[ >>> copy and paste it back under his first line of response. It will save you
[ >>> a lot of time and effort for the other authors who always write material
[ >>> more worthy of attention and thoughtfulness.
[ >>>
[ >>> **********************************************
[ >>>
[ >>> <reams of your desperate attempt to bullshit your way out of your
[ >>> predicament
[ >>> that fools absolutely no one at all, as always, flushed where it belongs>
========= Post 2 ends ==================================
*
Stray Dog's sig shows that he is Arthur E. Sowers
Forwarded message:
[ From: Art Sowers <stray...@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG>
[ Subject: Re: Postdoc experience
[ Newsgroups: sci.research.careers
[ Organization: Central Iowa (Model) Railroad, Plano, TX,
[ USA
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[ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 03:43:14 +0000
[
[
[ On Tue, 15 Sep 2003, Detector195 wrote:
[ >
[ [...]
[ [...]
[ [...]
[ Arthur E. Sowers, PhD
[ stray...@sdf.lonestar.org [ stra...@sdf.lonestar.org ]
[ Sci Career Information Website:
[ http://scijobs.freeshell.org
[ SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
Source:
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straydog seems to be digging a deeper hole for himself as tries harder.
poor thing.
<use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
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Phantom
Jai Maharaj, and you, are already in a deep hole.
On Wed, 13 May 2009, harmony wrote:
> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 20:04:13 -0500
> From: harmony <a...@hotmail.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.fan.jai-maharaj, alt.politics.economics,
> alt.computer.consultants, rec.arts.books, soc.culture.indian
> Subject: Re: Arthur E Sowers aka Stray Dog aka Phantom's dangerous anti-U.S.
> ill-will
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Jai_Maharaj
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Jai Maharaj
Jai Maharaj IS undisputedly the biggest troll/trollspammer in the universe!
SERIOUSLY! Consider this:
He has atleast 100,000 posts on Usenet
He just won't die
He's been literally living on Usenet ever since it came into existence
All of his posts are copypasta of articles advancing his point of view; none of
his posts have any moral, spiritual or commercial value
Considered to be a major factor contributing to the downfall of Usenet
Contents
1 Usenet Abuse and Crossposting Faggotry
2 Asstroll-ogy
3 Real Identity
4 Some Theories and Answers to the puzzle
5 Theory and Timeline based on the above facts
6 More Research
7 How to Annoy Jai Maharaj
Usenet Abuse and Crossposting Faggotry
What makes Jai Maharaj the biggest pest on usenet is his crossposting all over
usenet with daily news articles suggesting a vicious anti-christian and anti-muslim
slant….and vegetarianism. (Vegetarianism was invented by high caste Hindoos to
exterminate the lower caste ones by starvation). Jai claims to have been around
since the predecessor to the Internet, ARPANET was started. But again, all he
did was hijack it as a tool for his bullsh*t astrology and Hinduism. As of now,
there are 100,0000 [Update: 110,000 and climbing] of his rubbish postings dumped
all over usenet, clogging newsgroups and modem speed. All his posts contain a
signature with links to his site. As one user noticed, his postings tend to
attract a certain idiotic fringe of superstitious Hindoos who then find the link
to his website at the end of the post.
Jai Maharaj Likes... Jai Maharaj Dislikes...
Asstrology Scientists
Vegetarianism Meat-eaters
Hindu caste system (he's high caste) Members of Hindu low castes acting uppity
on Usenet...even if they are second generation Americans!
Living in USA USA
Trolling and stalking Being trolled and stalked
Homo porn Hindu porn
Hindu high caste Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindu lower castes
Being Anonymous Being trolled by Anonymous
Hinduism Any other ism
Does Jai Maharaj ever write on his own? If he could, he wouldn’t be spamming
across usenet like a nut, he would be a writer. His usual response never goes
beyond 4 lines and only consists of a screaming outburst against “xtians” and
“muslims”
and anyone who disagrees with him. But he compensates for this lack of
expression by digging up IP addresses and obtaining locations, real names and
phone numbers of his enemies, which he posts online for his devoted Hindoo pimps
to harass….or in the case of Sidharth, he notifies the authorities alleging “child
abuse”. Its no surprise that Jai is the most despised entity on Usenet and the
entire Usenet community eagerly awaits the day he will post his last.
The Mahabully, the best psychological compilation on Jai Maharaj ever. Written
by o...@cts.com and can be found here. It details his attacks on several Usenet
posters, his masturbation confessions and his IRA sympathies. To quote :
“The Mahabully lusts for the prestige and fear that an Ascendent Hindustan would
inspire, and prefers that this is realised at the expense of his race enemies.
His own voice is mean-spirited, immature and violent. The Mahabully, like other
bullies, forms the nucleus of a coterie of bullies and wanna-be bullies. His
kangaroo courts attract a cabal of marginal, schizoid personalities. The
Mahabully may pursue a vindictive vendetta against anyone who dares to hold them
accountable, perhaps using others' resources and contemptuous of the damage
caused to other people and organisations in pursuance of the vendetta. The
Mhabully 'is greedy, selfish, a parasite and an emotional vampire'. The
Mahabully imposes on others a self-aggrandising falsehood, a living lie, which
is constantly buttressed by additional distortion and lies. The Mahabully is
quick to conjure with injurious terms like 'terrorist'yet it is he himself, Jay
Stevens aka Jai Maharaj, who might fairly be accused of terrorism IMO. For
example, he has advertised a terrorist training video on Usenet.
More Resources
Jai Maharaj's bullshit on Usenet.
R Johnson has the second best compilation on Jai which can be found here.
A FAQon Jai Maharaj.
Dr. Jose Mariachi’s Compiled Killfile on Jai
Jerry Guzzman’s description of jai whom he claimed to have met Jai Maharaj.
According to him, Jai derives some sado-masochist psychotic pleasure from people
paying attention to him, whether positive or negative.(Proof that jyotshi/Brahmin
Hinduism adversely affects mental capacity?)
Asstroll-ogy
Jai Maharaj preys on ignorant Hindu fools who don’t even know the internet is on
computers….and to whom a message posted in English to usenet is the equivalent
of India test firing another ex-russian junk missile. Jai has his pimps in India
fleece these ignorant fools of their money by offering them bullshit jyotshi
predictions. In addition, Jai Maharaj seeks to push the rest of the jyotshi
scammers off his turf by copyrighting catch phrases like “prediction registry”,
“holistic jyotshi” and “mantra”! His bullshit jyotshi atrology can be seen at
work at his websites, such,
Main Asstrollogy page of Jai
Another Asstrollogy page
More Asstrollogy
How the scam works is that some idiot Hindu who cant type or comprehend stumbles
upon his usenet posts and follows the above links embedded in his signature…….and
voila! Meet jai, the predictor of their future happiness and well being. Since
hardcore materialism, hate and penis worship wash away the remaining intellect
of his adherents, they are more than willing to part away with their money for a
little guidance from a cyber-jyotshi …….and what is there to say when the
bullshit jyotshi boasts clients (unnamed of course….ahem) among all the rich and
powerful running this planet? Even the whitehouse is said to havee declared war
on timing outlined by Jai! Don't believe me? Read him right here.
Jai’s jyotshi scam simply consists of juggling various assumptions and screaming
glory when any one of them work out. Whats worse, Jai isn’t even putting up a
realistic Nostradamus like fooling game……instead he is lousy enough to let his
anti-christian and anti-muslim bias leak into his predictionsas well. Again, one
has to subscribe by contributing to his PayPal account to get access to his
bullshit predictions on future events.
Real Identity
This is the only known photograph of Jai Maharaj. It appeared on an asstrollogy
website. The following information also appeared: "Jai Maharaj, P.O. Box 1919,
Waianae, HI 96792-6919, USA, Tel: 1-808-521-8808, Email: jyot...@aol.com (Synthetics
- NO, Uparatnas - YES, Flawed gems - NO) - SERVICE: I both choose gems and also
supply gems loose or set in jewelry"
Jai Maharaj's own website has a very brief but pompous bio that runs as follows:
Jai Maharaj, who lives in Hawaii, USA, was born and raised in Varanasi and later
in other northern cities. He has been active in campaigns for both the
conservation of time-tested wisdom and the progress of Bharat. His education and
life experience include spirituality, health and medicine, architecture and
engineering, law and business, and activism in several areas. He has also
battled the enemy as a soldier in the armed forces at the border in Kashmir. Jai
Maharaj is a consultant for a think tank with the government, organizations and
individuals as clients. He is an ordained Vedic-Hindu priest. He hosts a popular,
comprehensive and well maintained news website News Plus . He monitors news
worldwide concerning India and also participates actively in many discussion
forums.
According to Mike (mi...@zang.com),
Jay Stevens hung out on Hawaii's GT Power BBS network in the late 80's early 90's.
I'm talking like 89-90, in that area. While my memories of him specifically are
vary vague, they do carry a general feeling of chronic irritation. One can be
very confident to add IBM compatibles as his platform of choice, as Hawaii's BBS
scene in that period was heavily platform segregated, and GT Power was a very
pro-PC environment, and had a large military subculture. Nothing I remember
indicates that he was in the military, however.
He is also described as being in his 60s.
In addition, several addresses have been posted on Usenet purportedly belonging
to him. They are of course, yet to be verified, but anyway here they are:
JAY R STEVENS : 4305 ALLA ROAD APT 7, MARINA DEL RAY, CA 90292
4086, GLENCOE AVE, MARINA DEL RAY, CA 90292 Tel: 310-823-3461
3940, LUTHERAN CIR, SACRAMENTO, CA 95826 ... right near the Sacramento burb of
Manlove
3168 BRAND ST, IRVINE, CA 92606 Tel: 310-375-8510; DOB: May 1940; AGE: 63;
E-Mail:j...@mantra.com;
ISPs: FLEX NET
A Whois search of Jai’s Mantra.com reveals the following:
Registrant:Mantra Corporation (MANTRA-DOM),P. O. Box 1919, Honolulu, HI 96792-6919
US
Administrative Contact:Maharaj, Jai (JM225) j...@FLEX.COM
Mantra Corporation
P. O. Box 1919
Waianae, HI 96792-6919 US
(808) 581-8808 fax: 999 999 9999
Technical Contact:Wong, Del (DW403) d...@FLEX.COM
P.O.Box 22481
HONOLULU, HI 96822-2481 US
(808) 539-3790 fax: (808) 539-3793
In the early days of the Internet, Shyamasundara Dasa had an ugly business
dealing with Jai, whichallowed him these personal tidbits:
Date of birth: Oct 7, 1946, 9:15AM
Place of birth: New Delhi, India
Real name: Jai Mathura (but was using Jai Stevens)
Address: as given above
Phone: 808-948-4357
FAX: 808-696-3217
Usenet user Reginald Perrin managed to dig up the incorporation papers of Mantra.com.
He managed to come up with information that Jay Stevens (Jai Mirage, Jai Maharaj)
is one of the founding officers (the other being Joan Miller) of Mantra
Corporation, which was incorporated in Hawaii on November 30, 1990 issued 1000
shares. It's an astrology scam masquerading as a business consulting and
marketing outfit, with 2 shareholders.
From a Hawaii state web site:
NAME: MANTRA CORPORATION
STATUS: A
CONSENT:
SIM-NAME:
DATE-INC: 11/30/1990
TERM: PER
DATE-EXP:
ADDRESS: P. O. BOX 1919 WAIANAE HI 96792 6919
PURPOSE: BUSINESS CONSULTING, MARKETING,ADVERTISING AND RELATED
SERVICES
SEC DEALER:
VOTE:
VOTE DATE:
REPORTS=> CURR-YR: LAST-YR: 1993 PRIOR-YR: 1992
DELINQUENT:
OFFICERS AS OF 11/30/1990
STEVENS,JAY R POSITION: *P/S/D
MILLER,JOAN E POSITION: *V/T/D
STOCK AS OF 11/30/1990
COMMON SHARES: 1,000 PAID IN:
1,000
PAR-VAL:
TRAN-DATE--ST-TYPE-REMARKS
11/30/1990 C ART ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION
As you can see, mantra.com is incorporated in the name of JAY R. STEVENS and we
can safely assume its his real name. Joan Miller may either be Jai's Indian wife
with a changed name, or a a chickin.
Dell Wong
As you can see in the technical contact of Mantra.com, a certain Dell Wong is
listed. Dell Wong can be several things:
1.An employee/frontman of Jay Stevens
2.A business partner of Jay Stevens
3.A legal alias of Jay Stevens. (under law, it is possible to have a legal alias
provided its listed with the authorities)
4. A completely non-related entity who has become guilty by association with
flex.com, which hosts mantra.com and appears to be complacent towards Jai's
trolling activities.
It has been assumed that Del Wong is nothing but Jay Stevens’ frontman, whom Jay
uses in his real legal and business affairs. Del Wong has been ruled out as
being an alias of Jai since his photodoes not resemble a desi. He may be local
Hawaiian or Chinese.
Or who knows? It could be Jai. Well anyway, the contact info of of Mr . Wong
from a Hawaii government tax site is as follows:
Agent Name DEL WONG
Agent Address 2800 WOOD LAWN DR STE 254
HONOLULU Hawaii 96822
United States of America
Business Entity Name FLEXNET, INC.
Record Type Master Name for a Domestic Profit Corporation
File Number 99105 D1
Status Active
Purpose TO PROVIDE HIGH-SPEED COMMERCIAL INTERNET CONNECTIVITY
FOR HAWAII BASED ORGANIZATION COMPANIES AND INDIVIDUALS;
Place Incorporated Hawaii UNITED STATES (Same as mantra.com)
Incorporation Date 03/13/1995
Mailing Address P O BOX 22481 HONOLULU Hawaii 96823-2481
United States of America
Xref Name 1 FLEX NET
Term PER
Some Theories and Answers to the puzzle
The great mystery regarding jay Stevens is why his ISP, FLEX.COM has never
kicked him off than take the trouble and complaints, especially since he pays a
measly $9.95/ month to stay online. The most plausible answer is that Jay
Stevens owns Flex.com through Dell Wong! It seems Jay originally sneaked into
the United States disguised as one of the thousands of mass produced computer
coolies. In his initial years, his computer coolie skills blossomed but once he
managed to escape the work gang and apply for permanent residence, he reverted
back to being the bullshit jyotshi hatemonger he always was. However, before his
computer skills waned, his computer coolie skills helped him set up Hawaii’s
first ISP, Flex.com and once the cash started flowing, jay discovered there was
plenty of time to spend on his vedic jyotshi asstrollogy as well as pursuing his
hates.
Many have wondered how Jay manages to stay online 24/7 and yet retain his
humanity. The answer is that when he is not cross posting hate, he is managing
Flex.com. In other words he is half robot half demon.
A WHOIS of Flex.com reveals the following:
Registrant:
flexnet inc.
p.o.box 22481
honolulu, Hawaii 96823-2481 United States
Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Created on: 24-Sep-91
Admin. Contact:
wong, del d...@flex.com
flexnet inc.
p.o.box 22481
honolulu, Hawaii 96823-2481 United States
(808) 539-3790 Fax --
Technical Contact:
wong, del d...@flex.com
flexnet inc.
p.o.box 22481
honolulu, Hawaii 96823-2481 United States
(808) 539-3790 Fax –
Del Wong (or Jai Stevens?) is the founder-owner of Flex.com.
Theory and Timeline based on the above facts
Jai Maharaj/Jay Stevens sneaked into the United States as an average grade mass-produced
computer coolie. Here are some facts derived from an online interview between
Caroline Wright and ‘Dell Wong’, who happens to sound more like Jai.
Studied at University of Hawaii at Manoa(might be a good idea to ask them)
ran a bbs for eight years prior to that
got kicked out by U.H., got his sister in-law in trouble by abusing her internet
access privileges.
Then started ISP service in July 12th 1994 under several different names, such
as Flex.com (of which he indicates had its first employee named Kristin Paulo
who started Hula.net)
He was also involved in the setup of several local Hawai ISPs
Did Web programming with Jeff Tupa who became webmaster and system administrator
for Flex.com. *Tupa is said to have left on 12/29/03.
Had a partner by the name Del Wong
Though the respondent in this interview is referred to as Dell Wong, it sounds
exactly like Jai. And since it was conducted via email, it is more than probable
that Jai was on the other end. For example, this interview is located on the
Flex.com website in the "who are we" tab. Rather than give a brief info on the
company and its history, we find an online interview with Caroline Wright
entitled "Curiousity Killed the cat." Further, there are too many arrogant and
vague comments made through the interview which sound more like Jai. This
interview was conducted in January 2000, but don’t be surprised if Jai removed
or edited it.
Consider these arrogant and nonchalant comments in the interview which are a
trademark of Jai.
Lots of prospects get put off by our/my "attitude", but heck, FlexNet is Del
Wong.
I don't bother anymore reading the dang thing. As I said before our present
modem situation is crappy. But again, by the time this article comes out, we
will again rock in that department. No worry.
(Caroline Wright asks)Who is the staff of FlexNet? Are you a one-man band? Is
Missus Wong still helping you out? Is Flex your only business, or do you have
other irons in the fire? What are they?
(Jai/Wong answers)Everything is secret. Don't Tell, Don't Ask.
The question of Jai owning Flex.com has surfaced before on Usenet.As usual, Jai
brings forth his sockpuppets to dissuade people from further pursuing the topic.
Take this thread,
Siva K Sundaram wrote:Dr. Jai Maharaj (supposed) real name is Jay Stevens (based
on Net info,one can't know for sure if that's his actual real name). His web
site's domain name, mantra.com, identified as belonging to Mantra Corporation,has
an IP address (206.126.0.13) matching the domain for the Hawaiian ISP flex.com,
which Mr. Stevens (probably) owns and runs.
To this, a sockpuppet of Jai responds:
Jay Stevens doesn't own or run shit! He's a mercenary for the VHP, paid by a
well-known Indian doctor who "operates" from Houston. I say he's a mercenary,
because he does not live what he purports to preach, and because he is paid for
the propaganda and recruitment efforts. Flex.com is *not* owned or operated by
Jay, but they do host some services for him, for a fee, of course. His spamming,
discerning readers will note, stems not from flex.com(which has a stern policy
in that regard), but from a no-holds-barred Usenet provider called Altopia:
A more intelligent Usenet user writes:
Right, that's discernible from examining the source of his posts, that he uses
Altopia for his NNTP services. However, I can't buy the claim that flex.com
merely hosts services for Mr.Stevens. The domain names flex.com and mantra.com
map to the same IP address.If flex.com merely hosted services for mantra.com,
then mantra.com would have to map to a different IP address.(Note that Jai may
have corrected this)So Mr. Stevens' (if that's his real name) relationship with
flex.com is clearly More than just being a customer. And there's evidence that
Mr. Stevens is trying to hide that fact. He has a web Page at http://www.flex.com/~jai
which suggests that he's a customer of that ISP. He also has a separate page for
his "organization", http://www.mantra.com (address 206.126.13.34), which also
suggests a pure customer relationship, since The address apparently is on the
flex.com subnet. However, the following is unusual. Since mantra.com has the
same IP address as Flex.com, one should expect to reach the flex.com web site by
entering Mantra.com as a URL in a browser, but this does not happen! Rather, the
HTTP Server "magically" recognizes the mantra.com name and redirects the request
to 206.126.13.34, to www.mantra.com! Further evidence that Mr. Stevens is trying
To hide his more intimate relationship with flex.com.
More Research
Please contact Anonymous and request more research.
How to Annoy Jai Maharaj
Respond to his Usenet posts with a copypasta of this article.
Accuse him of murdering rival asstrollogers
Create an online game in which vegetables have to escape from being eaten by him
Call him Pakistani
Jai Maharaj is part of a series on Usenet.
Jai Maharaj
is part of a series on Web 1.0
///////////////////////
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
go from his job in the lab at UMAB, now UMB, which forced
him to become a handyman. He then paraded himself as some
sort of a job giver or career counselor here on USENET,
putting up a couple of web sites with a few dozen articles
from other sources. When I pointed to his own posts
detailing the above, he became revengeful, accusing me of
trying to disclose his identity (which he himself has done
publicly), and has developed an almost-daily habit of
posting malicious defamation based on lies propagated by
others. He has ditched his "Stray Dog" alias and now posts
as "Phantom" (Arindam Banerjee has celebrated it in his
posts). Now, Sowers has claimed that he married a
psychologist; perhaps she is going to be a source of help
for him. His self-esteem built on some sort of power over
those he had convince that he was "mentoring" has come
crashing down.
uskay bhed to sab khul gaye naa?
Jai Maharaj
Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti
"A king, though endowed with little prowess,
starting on an expedition at the proper time, in
view of the good positions of the planets, achieves
greatness that is eulogised in the scriptures."
- Brhat Samhita, 104.60
In article <4a0b6e0f$0$23754$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> lol.
> straydog seems to be digging a deeper hole for himself as tries harder.
> poor thing.
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
In article <4a0b6e0f$0$23754$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:
>