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Sean_Q_

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Oct 3, 2009, 2:05:13 AM10/3/09
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Usenet and the AFT/RABT community live on... but without new members
will inevitably dwindle... could we use something like this and attract
new Tolkien fans, not as a newsgroup replacement but as an enhancement?

http://arstechnica.com/open-source/guides/2009/09/surfing-the-google-wave.ars

SQ

Stan Brown

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Oct 3, 2009, 10:47:31 AM10/3/09
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Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:05:13 -0700 from Sean_Q_ <no....@no.spam>:

No Web-based system for me, and nothing run by Google.

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Tamf Moo

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Oct 3, 2009, 11:16:30 AM10/3/09
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Stan Brown wrote:
> Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:05:13 -0700 from Sean_Q_ <no....@no.spam>:
>> Usenet and the AFT/RABT community live on... but without new members
>> will inevitably dwindle... could we use something like this and attract
>> new Tolkien fans, not as a newsgroup replacement but as an enhancement?
>>
>> http://arstechnica.com/open-source/guides/2009/09/surfing-the-google-wave.ars
>
> No Web-based system for me, and nothing run by Google.

heh. i just clicked on that link, and am now wondering if Sean doesn't
feel the same way. or even Google...

--
tamf

I see two Gandalfs and church bell. And two half lions chasing
a bull rat each over the lake. (Rorschach tests seen by "Illogic")

Öjevind Lång

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Oct 3, 2009, 3:38:37 PM10/3/09
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> Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:05:13 -0700 from Sean_Q_ <no....@no.spam>:
>>
>> Usenet and the AFT/RABT community live on... but without new members
>> will inevitably dwindle... could we use something like this and attract
>> new Tolkien fans, not as a newsgroup replacement but as an enhancement?
>>
>> http://arstechnica.com/open-source/guides/2009/09/surfing-the-google-wave.ars
>
> No Web-based system for me, and nothing run by Google.

I agree.

�jevind

Troels Forchhammer

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Oct 3, 2009, 3:47:56 PM10/3/09
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In message <news:ha6pht$1fe$1...@aioe.org> Sean_Q_ <no....@no.spam>
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That definitely looks interesting -- I like the idea of
collaborative editing.

I am concerned that one can edit other people's texts, their
'blips,' and even if it appears that it supports threading, it would
require a great deal of discipline by the contributors (and possibly
also its own kind of netiquette). For me, personally, I wouldn't
like the direct, key-by-key, mode -- in many cases I can take days
to compose an answer to an interesting post (in this case it is only
a few hours since I pressed 'reply').

At first glance I think I'd very much like to try this out, but I
think that I'd prefer to use it with some control of whom can edit
my posts -- I think one of the reasons why usenet works is that the
individual message is inviolate; even if some people will misquote
you, the original message is always there for all to see (even if
you use the X-No-Archive header there is usually some private
archive that has the message).

Overall I think that Google Wave looks very promising, and I will
definitely try it out once it opens up to the public, but I don't
think that it is a place that invites to the kind of openness and
inclusiveness that we have in usenet -- I would see it rather as a
medium where a group, smaller or greater, could retreat to work out
some kind of common understanding. as such it might be a really fine
addition to our discussions here.

--
Troels Forchhammer
Valid e-mail is <troelsfo(a)gmail.com>
Please put [AFT], [RABT] or 'Tolkien' in subject.

Five exclamation marks, the sure sign of an insane mind.
- /Reaper Man/ (Terry Pratchett)

TT Arvind

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Oct 4, 2009, 6:34:05 AM10/4/09
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> http://arstechnica.com/open-source/guides/2009/09/surfing-the-google-...

Excellent! Everybody, look closely at the Google logo in that
article, and you'll see how subtly they're trying to tempt us over.
Precioussssssss...

--
Arvind

Tamf Moo

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Oct 4, 2009, 2:15:09 PM10/4/09
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TT Arvind wrote:

>> http://arstechnica.com/open-source/guides/2009/09/surfing-the-google-...
>
> Excellent! Everybody, look closely at the Google logo in that
> article, and you'll see how subtly they're trying to tempt us over.
> Precioussssssss...

i sense trickery. isn't there supposed to be just one of those things?

TT Arvind

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Oct 4, 2009, 2:43:31 PM10/4/09
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On 4 Oct, 19:15, Tamf Moo <liddlelel...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> i sense trickery. isn't there supposed to be just one of those things?

In the immortal words of Che Guevaragorn: "¡Abajo el Único! ¡Viva los
Multiplos!"

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Arvind

Pseudonymus al-Faqha'ter III

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Oct 4, 2009, 7:52:12 PM10/4/09
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And now the page cannot be displayed, which suggests that it has
become invisible. Very sneaky, indeed.

Öjevind Lång

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Oct 5, 2009, 8:01:03 AM10/5/09
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"Tamf Moo" <liddle...@yahoo.com> skrev i meddelandet
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> Stan Brown wrote:

[snip]

>> No Web-based system for me, and nothing run by Google.
>
> heh. i just clicked on that link, and am now wondering if Sean doesn't
> feel the same way. or even Google...

Anyway, who would want to employ the services of an outfit which calls
itself "arse technica"?

�jevind

TT Arvind

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Oct 7, 2009, 9:37:56 AM10/7/09
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On 5 Oct, 13:01, Öjevind Lång <bredband....@ojevind.lang> wrote:

> Anyway, who would want to employ the services of  an outfit which calls
> itself "arse technica"?

Arrs technica: The website for the technologically minded pirate.

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Arvind

Tamf Moo

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Oct 8, 2009, 10:02:21 AM10/8/09
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TT Arvind wrote:

>> Anyway, who would want to employ the services of an outfit which calls
>> itself "arse technica"?
>
> Arrs technica: The website for the technologically minded pirate.

Ears technica: where would movies about elves be without them?

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tamf

(still in the forest, i bet.)

Raven

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Oct 8, 2009, 11:00:09 AM10/8/09
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"Tamf Moo" <liddle...@yahoo.com> skrev i meddelelsen
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>>> Anyway, who would want to employ the services of an outfit which calls
>>> itself "arse technica"?

>> Arrs technica: The website for the technologically minded pirate.

> Ears technica: where would movies about elves be without them?

Oars technica: how to refine your rowing skills.

Annank�kai.

Öjevind Lång

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Oct 8, 2009, 11:43:54 AM10/8/09
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[snip]

>>>> Anyway, who would want to employ the services of an outfit which calls
>>>> itself "arse technica"?
>
>>> Arrs technica: The website for the technologically minded pirate.
>
>> Ears technica: where would movies about elves be without them?
>
> Oars technica: how to refine your rowing skills.

Ourse technica: how to deal with a Francophone bear.

�jevind

Taemon

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Oct 8, 2009, 12:26:39 PM10/8/09
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�jevind L�ng wrote:

> "Raven" <jon.lennart.be...@mail.its.in.danmark> skrev i
> meddelandet news:4acdffa3$0$56796$edfa...@dtext02.news.tele.dk...

>>>>> Anyway, who would want to employ the services of an outfit which
>>>>> calls itself "arse technica"?
>>>> Arrs technica: The website for the technologically minded pirate.
>>> Ears technica: where would movies about elves be without them?
>> Oars technica: how to refine your rowing skills.
> Ourse technica: how to deal with a Francophone bear.

Urse technica: Phear the 1337 techniques.

T.


Derek Broughton

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Oct 8, 2009, 2:49:35 PM10/8/09
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Taemon wrote:

Arras technica: the manufacture of wall hangings (probably also dating to
1337, since the word hasn't been used much since...)

Ouse technica: where to practice Oars technica.
--
derek

Troels Forchhammer

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Nov 25, 2009, 3:50:01 PM11/25/09
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In message <news:ha6pht$1fe$1...@aioe.org> Sean_Q_ <no....@no.spam>
spoke these staves:
>

About Google Wave:

> Usenet and the AFT/RABT community live on... but without new
> members will inevitably dwindle... could we use something like
> this and attract new Tolkien fans, not as a newsgroup replacement
> but as an enhancement?

I now have a Google Wave account, and I think it might be a good thing
for many purposes, but as with any other platform, there will be first
a time of chaos as everybody learns the tricks. Then a new . . .
wavetiqette? . . . will emerge and there will be a time of great
productivity and progress. Then the spammers will kick in and public
waves will degenerate . . .

Still, I think Google Wave can be a good supplement to other fora (and
I've already had occasion to mention AFT and RABT at least once ;-)

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Troels Forchhammer <troelsfo(a)googlewave.com>


Valid e-mail is <troelsfo(a)gmail.com>
Please put [AFT], [RABT] or 'Tolkien' in subject.

Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no
basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power
derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some
farcical aquatic ceremony.
- /Monty Python and the Holy Grail/

Jette Goldie

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Dec 31, 2009, 7:36:10 PM12/31/09
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Troels Forchhammer wrote:
> In message <news:ha6pht$1fe$1...@aioe.org> Sean_Q_ <no....@no.spam>
> spoke these staves:
>
> About Google Wave:
>
>> Usenet and the AFT/RABT community live on... but without new
>> members will inevitably dwindle... could we use something like
>> this and attract new Tolkien fans, not as a newsgroup replacement
>> but as an enhancement?
>
> I now have a Google Wave account, and I think it might be a good thing
> for many purposes, but as with any other platform, there will be first
> a time of chaos as everybody learns the tricks. Then a new . . .
> wavetiqette? . . . will emerge and there will be a time of great
> productivity and progress. Then the spammers will kick in and public
> waves will degenerate . . .
>
> Still, I think Google Wave can be a good supplement to other fora (and
> I've already had occasion to mention AFT and RABT at least once ;-)
>

I have a Google Wave account too. Not enough contacts however.

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